Save up to ~$7000 on the MY24.5 Ranger XLT, depending on the state. Best selling car in Australia in 2024. 3500kg towing capacity.
Cheaper lower spec Black Edition is $57990 driveaway. Cheaper than the base spec XL 4x4.
Ford Ranger XLT (MY24.50) Bi-Turbo 4x4 from $63990 Driveaway (Save up to $7000), Black Edition from $57990 Driveaway @ Ford
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he has the high ground
They play monster trucks in school car parks
I do what I see now that they are marketing: Ford CEO Jim Farley has admitted to driving Xiaomi SU7 & loving it as his daily driver for 6+ months https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkFEV1O_Vfk
Ohhkay… Move along now. Window shoppers need not apply. lol
My wheels are bigger than yours
you could consider a BYD Shark apparently they have more to offer for the same price.
Ill be the only fool in greenacre driving a BYD. Its either G63 , C63, Hilux, Ram, Ranger, Range Rover, Landcruiser or offcourse Lambo.
Its not about how much the car offers, its more about how much you can spend on a car to use for school pickups lol
no idea why people complain about evs being too expensive lol when people are spending sh4t loads on high performance trucks.
hey mate, i cant find that mercs post now, do you know what happened?
It got OZBargained!
Apparently its out of stock overnight and AMG requested to remove the deal post
Hold up, the best selling car in Australia cost $63,000+?
And who exactly is saying EV's are expensive compared to this?
Not a fair comparison, different purpose.
Yep, one to be environmentally aware, the other, to intimidate the former and other motorists.
Can't spell Ranger without anger after all
As the owner of a Tesla Model Y, a Model 3 AND a diesel Ford Ranger (single cab, alloy tray, farm ute), EVs are not there yet for SOME purposes. It does give me the irrits that almost all the school drop-off vehicles are massive diesel 4WDs these days, because all the soccer mums feel "safer" transporting their precious kids in a huge vehicle with a bull bar…
@dtpearson: Even more so they leave the engine running with windows up to keep cool while everyone else breathes the fumes. And its mainly those with Diesel motors
@RockyRaccoon: I used remote start this morning to get it nice and chilly before I got in, gave it an extra 5min just for you
@RockyRaccoon: Had two 200 series cruisers at school pickup doing that for years, they would arrive an hour early then park next to each other and proceeds to talk crap for an hour through the open windows. Now they both do it in a 300, engine still stays on for the whole time.
@smartazz104: Yes. Other careless drivers. In an accident mass wins. Good luck in your little Mazda 3 surviving after being hit by a soccer mum in her Prado
@dtpearson: Let me honest, it's really about been seen in a certain vehicle more than perceived safety
@dtpearson: I only have a diesel 4WD. It occasionally gets used for shorter errands, but generally we ride bikes, catch public transport, etc, but it's our family touring/camping vehicle with solar, fridge, drawers, bike racks, and often tows our camper. When it needs replacing we'll look at the PHEV options, but for now we're better off keeping it.
Also, no bull bar…
@dtpearson: Once a woman becomes pregnant with the first child she usually wants the largest, tallest SUV her husband can afford. It's something of a primal instinct. They want 2250kg of vehicle wrapped around their child or they feel incredibly unsafe.
Your Shark purchase won't save the planet when rest of the world is still building new coal fired power plants and coal demand is projected to increase.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-12-18/we-re-…
@TangoCharlieAlpha: But if every household bought a ranger to drive their kids to school, then demand goes up for coal? Better to acknowledge the problem than contribute to it
@smoothymcmellow: No one in their right mind should be buying a Ranger or a Shark or any other UTE just to drive their kids to school.
childish take
Both are used exclusively for the school run and grocery run.
Different purpose for sure, but it seems more and more are buying these utes for regular use.
and there's nothing wrong with that too
thing is the Ranger qualifies as a work vehicle and can be expensed
most EVs, BYD shark notwithstanding,,, cannot
If your taxable income sufficient to make it worthwhile, an EV on a novated lease can be a bit of a no brainer. It’s is currently FBT exempt, so a Tesla 3 is practically the same fortnightly payment as a Mazda 3 (not FBT exempt) that retails at half the price.
but there is no EV on the market (and the shark just isn’t, despite the insulting award news limited motoring journalists just gave it) that can compete with a ranger for its purpose.
So? Still not the same thing.
At what point and how does it becomes worthwhile? Serious question, I'm just not across novated leases and tax benefits from it.
@cornflakes: This spreadsheet does a good job of comparing your options.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AusFinance/comments/14wejuf/the_mos…
@cornflakes: At the end of the day, it's really only beneficial to you if you absolutely need a new car. And only if you need this type of car, and you earn >$150k
Depreciation will exceed any tax savings, so you are not missing out by not getting a new ranger or EV on a lease.
Ranger owners will have just as much trouble as anyone else trying to sell their car when it comes off lease, especially with any kind of downturn in the housing market, or an increase in petrol prices.
@PhilToinby: I think a ranger or any dual cab Ute would hold value more than a Tesla. Agree it’s a good option on a novated but I’m curious as to whether it would hold value for resale when time to pay your residual
@wouldyou: The residual value on my Model Y after 5 years on a novated lease is $18k. Pretty sure I can recoup that money fairly easily. Given 4 year old Teslas are on sale for ~$35k
@tcommy79: Fair enough. I don't buy cars based on resale value. The two cars I've had before were driven for 9 and 10 years each, used to the point where they had to be sold for scrap/wreckers (both done 230,000+ kms, bought new). My point is Novated Lease companies use a depreciation schedule that's way more aggressive than market values. If I put up a 5 year old tesla today for 25k, I'm fairly confident it'll be snapped up in a matter of days.
That being said, I'll most likely end up paying the residual value, and drive the car till it can't be driven anymore.
@d3al: That’s good to know! I hadn’t done any research into that - but just given an increase in competition and reduction in pricing was curious
@PhilToinby: If you need a car and earn enough, you save heaps.
If you do a dew KMs.. the savings are wild.
On a novated lease, on top of everything else, you pay pre tax on dollars on running costs.. so your insurance and fuel might be 55% of the normal cost.
I have done this. My wife and i normall spend $100-120 a week on fuel alone.
This is incorrect, the benefit of fbt/lease in general with added interest rate and higher fees does not rival a car half its price no matter how high your income. Definitely has a financial benefit for higher income earners but you have grossly exaggerated.
@cheapaschips: The total effective cost actually can work out as less than half for top tax bracket earners when factoring in the fuel/energy savings, GST savings, and the opportunity cost of the financed amounts. For most, the total savings are far more modest (i.e. closer to 30%), though.
@CallumS: It's more like ~30% less once you factor in a number of overpriced elements they mandate as included in the lease
@buckster: Don't forget the interest rate - the lease companies have to make money! And factor in that a Ranger will use twice as much petrol to get you around as a regular car, so any tax savings start to diminish
@cheapaschips: It depends on your exact financial situation, vehicle, and usage. Doing the maths for a friend, it turned out that a NL for an EV over 5 years was about the same financial impact as it was to borrow cash to buy $20K cheaper ICE. So, in every sense of the phrase, your mileage may vary.
@cheapaschips: My workplace’s provider, sgfleet:
Mazda 3 pure sedan $250.80/week. The hatch is $251.43/week
Tesla 3 RWD $252.60/weekWhy wouldn’t you take the car retailing at twice as much and remember to thank the taxpayer for the diff?
Out of interest, the ranger XLT is $396.80/week All the competing capability 4WD dual cabs are around this (eg Hilux SR is $411- why the better value ranger is number 1).
The BYD shark is $356.11@entropysbane: What is the RRP for both
What is the balloon payment at the end for both
If you want to share the detailed quotes for both im happy to walk you through the true total cost.
@cheapaschips: I think people forget that you can get a lease on a $35k EV just as easily as a $70k EV, the key differences being that the cheaper car obviously comes with less money out of your pocket, less depreciation, less interest payments, etc
Your dreaming!
Love how even those with office jobs working from home can take advantage of novated leases and FBT exemptions for these trucks. I guess ATO staff dont want to lose their perks either.
@RockyRaccoon: It's only EV's / PHEV's that you can get FBT exemptions on for private use, not regular utes.
I see there are now "cheap" loans for EVs for those who qualify i.e earn under $100k or be a listed essential worker (no means test there)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-19/ev-electric-vehicle-l…
As to the deal posted, BYD Shark 6 seems better in nearly every respect
Shark wont be able to qualify. Only has 750kg load capacity
If you mean qualify for the fbt exemption? Then yes it does. That is the main reason sales went off the rails. But only until 1st April. Hence the rush to get them out.
thing is the Ranger qualifies as a work vehicle and can be expensed
If most of these were checked they wouldn't even find a toolbox in the back…
Yes but there would be a side annexe.
Hold up, the best selling car in Australia cost $63,000+?
For the XLT variation. Basic XL 2.0L Turbo Diesel 6AT 4x2 Hi-Rider is about $49k.
Good point. And there’s an apparent cost of living crisis. I guess it’s usually just opinion/political and people blame EVs for being expensive but really they just don’t like them. Not sure why, it’s just a fuel source. You can tell by the fact that when there’s an EV bargain posted, there’s usually 250+ comments, it’s like mozzies to a light.
Add on the cost of fuel these utes guzzle. And servicing (compared to EVs).
The argument about tax write off, I don’t think most of the car buying population are tradies. (Albeit a lot are, I guess they churn to the latest and greatest every few years which pushes up sales numbers. Don’t see how that makes any financial sense but that’s a different matter. )
(Mozzies go after CO2, not light. That's moths. Moths use the moonlight at night to navigate and get trapped circling these lights to death).
This is the high end luxury one.
Also tradies can tax deduct it
Hold up, the best selling car in Australia cost $63,000+?
Apprentices have to drive something….
No one. Ranger and Hilux have always been rip-off utes in Australian market.
actually most people I know spent 100k of on the ford ranger because they get a speced out model.
This. And then they add a lift kit, big rims, MT tyres, winch, bull bar etc etc. and they are at $125k
Thats not how the grouping in vfact stats work, remember there is also 4x2 single cabs available.
Thanks, bought 100 to be my 50 x G63's sidekicks.
The BYD Shark effect?
Nah. It will be the Ford Vs Toyota best selling "car of the year" championship at play here.
But of a coincidence isn't it!
You across from NZ?
Ford is scared of sharks, and with good reason
I think all American car companies are afraid of the chinese.
Dunno why, Trump is going to lock them out of the market, or at least put massive tarrif’s on them.
yep it seems that way.
BYD Shark bringing the heat!
dooo doo doo doodoo
its gives me a good fuzzy feeling to watch BYD crush the competition who are categorical selling stale product year after year
For city driving yes…but anything to do with off-roading, towing and touring, Shark doesn't stand a chance against Ranger.
Off-roading - Couldn't even climb an obnoxious looking incline in CarExpert review.
Towing - 2,500kg vs Rangers 3,500kg and what implications will it have on fuel economy.
Touring - Carsales review found fuel economy of 14L/100km and 16L/100km on their 2 BYD Sharks on a 1800km trip of varied driving. That's really bad once that initial battery charge is depleted.
But of course if majority of your driving is in around town and you can charge daily, Shark will be a better buy.
Shark is a Way better buy for most people, trades included. How many times have you seen a ranger towing? I see 15 a day and can't remember the last time I have seen someone tow. When you do see someone towing, are they ever towing a 2.5T caravan? Nearly never. The incline issue will be fixed in software by production time and won't be an issue. Car is also 20k cheaper, and faster, and can drive the first 80km for free if you can plug it in to solar every day.
The problem with car buyers today is they value things they might do once a year over things that everyone needs to do every day
@Jackson: Have you ever ventured out of the city suburbs?
I saw 100s of 4WDs, mostly Fords, on a recent trip to mid-north coast towing big caravans and boats on Pacific Highway. You won't see them towing caravans and boats to your local Woolies or Coles.
Car is also 20k cheaper
So where can I find Shark for $43,990 driveaway?
@TangoCharlieAlpha: Usually when on holiday I see more other cars towing than utes. I see the occasional Ranger towing but not that often. When you are on holiday of course you are going to see people towing though, but I would still say most people don't actually do that
@Jackson: Looks like you haven't been around much. I own an Isuzu and love off-roading and touring like many other Aussies. From what I have seen in last 5 years off-roading and touring is growing exponentially.
Ranger, Hilux and D-Max were top 3 best selling vehicles until RAV4 took the #1 spot. Australia is a 4x4 country.
off-roading and touring is growing exponentially
Considering they clog the roads in the cities, I guess off road is the only place anyone can enjoy driving.
@Fastjam: It has low ground clearance, no diff-locks, no low range transfer case. It's a AWD not a proper 4WD and most people don't understand the difference.
@TangoCharlieAlpha: I've been around plenty, I just drove to Melbourne and back. The people doing this drive are 0.1% of the population at best. Most of them don't have anything over 2.5T, 2.5T is a decent amount to be able to tow, and probably will do 99.9% of towing. I forgot to answer your other question, was comparing to the Raptor, which is more in the Shark's class (since the Raptor can't even keep up with the Shark)
Already bought the G63 to harass the Ford ranger drivers