Why Are Pet Owners So Disrespectful These Days?

Today I witnessed three different people walking dogs, allow their dogs to wander into other people's front yards to do their business.

Two of these people had their dogs on leads, extended leads it would seem. One of these people had their dog off lead and it wandered into my own yard to do its business. While the owners did pick up their dog's poo, when did it become a thing that people let their dogs do this on other people's properties?

Seriously, have some respect for others and keep your dog off other people's property and for crying out loud, keep it on a lead, doesn't matter how close to your own house you are, it's the law!

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  • +23

    Dog poo makes scents. Cheers

    when did it become a thing that people let their dogs do this on other people's properties?

    According to chatgpt it was March 16th 1994.

    • +7

      Oddly specific dates… When I looked that date up, I found out that American figure skater Tonya Harding pleads guilty to felony attack on former Olympic teammate Nancy Kerrigan on that day.

      • +55

        Well that was a dog act to be fair.

  • +19

    Youths these days, no respect! It's not like when I was a lad, when everyone was so nice, and considerate, and everything…

    • +4

      I bet you were very demure

    • +3

      It's like retail. How easy would it be without customers. ;)

    • +4

      OP you must live in Toorak and Brighton.

      Some of us have to worry about ice junkies wandering onto our lawns to do their business.

  • +13

    I walk my neighbours border collie because they are a little older and she suffers from ms.

    I have always instilled in the dog that other people's property is not where he should be. It does help that they are a smart breed, but I come across every single walk someone that OP has described. FFS, let them take a piss on the nature strip tree…and move on. Why are you extending the leash into someone elses driveway. Even when i have this dog on the leash, if he sees a cat I will say "your friend". So he knows, not to attack. Common sense!

    Some dog owners have no awareness. These same people are the ones who drive like shit haha

      • +13

        This won't work if the dog is a Labrador though, they love being sprayed with water and you'll just become their new best friend

        • -7

          It's the shock factor that is required.

          • @Protractor: Congratulations fellows, Satan is here on ozbargain.

            • @CocaKoala: Yes, because satan squirts a water loving dog. Or better still the lazy owner?
              But the concept of poisoning somebody's pet doesn't seem to bother some ppl here? Yeah right.I'm satan, LOL.

              • @Protractor: What a joke. You didn't want to squirt water over the dog because it's "water loving" but to induce shock in it. Your lie would have been believable if only you hadn't explicitly stated why you're suggesting it.

                • +1

                  @CocaKoala: Wow, just wow.
                  Explain to me why the outrage over a surprise water pistol VS a movement activated sprinkler? Fire away

                  • @Protractor: Normal human beings don't need an explanation on why not to "go hard on, willfully induce shock in, and terrorize an animal". I'm not going to dignify you with any more of my time.

  • +30

    Disrespectful these days? They are much,much, better than they used to be. Dogs used to just wander out of their yards and around the streets. Nobody was picking up dog poo and you were lucky if you weren’t bitten. If the dog is wandering onto your property then your fences and gates are open.

    However, I agree that people should ensure their dog isn’t a nuisance to others or trespassing. They should also clean up after their pets as well. However I gave a pass to the guy in the motorised scooter the other day. I dint think he was capable of getting up to clean up his dog’s poo.

    • -4

      I dint think he was capable of getting up to clean up his dog’s poo.

      Then really he shouldn't be taking it out in public. Owning a pet is about responsibility.

      • +2

        So because the guy is disabled and can’t pick up the dog crap you think his dog should be deprived from going out for a walk? Me, I’m just a bit less ridged in my thinking.

        • +16

          Kudos for the bloke taking his dog for the walk given his handicap. 100% I would give him a pass every time. In fact i am the type of bloke who would happily pick it up for him every time. It is called being nice to others who are struggling more than you.

        • +12

          A responsible pet owner cleans up after their animal. If he cannot take care of his animal he should reconsider ownership.

          • -3

            @Bruceflix: Considered that this dog is more than just a pet, or bling for the owner? Heard of assistance dogs? (They aint just for the vision impaired)

            • +1

              @Protractor: So if someone is not willing or capable of looking after an animal, it is still ok for them to own them?
              Cleaning up after an animal is not the most difficult of tasks for pet ownership

            • +6

              @Protractor: Just FYI

              2) Assistance dog as defined in the Disability Discrimination Act 1992 (Cth) (DDA) section 9(c)

              The Disability Discrimination Act defines an assistance animal as a dog or other animal that:

              “is trained to assist a person with a disability to alleviate the effect of the disability and to meet standards of hygiene and behaviour that are appropriate for an animal in a public place”.

              To do this a handler needs to show evidence, if requested, of both:

              The need for an assistance animal – such as a medical certificate providing evidence that the handler has a disability and that the assistance animal alleviates the effects of the disability; and
              Relevant training – such as a certificate from either a Vet or training organisation, which demonstrates that the dog has been trained to alleviate the effects of the disability, and meets standards of hygiene and behaviour appropriate for an animal in a public place.

              • +5

                @Bruceflix: Thanks.
                And I agree that owners should step up. Don't hold your breath. look at the behaviour of adults general these days, let alone some of their offspring.
                Respect has degraded in broad daylight, and social media and the self inflicted brain drain of shit we feed our minds will finish it off. About 90% of the petty issues foisted on Ozbargain could be dealt with on the day,on the spot with communication. Post outrage reviews don't change history or behaviour (in most cases)

                "It's always somebody else" or " I'm special" or "it doesn't apply to me" are the norm these days.

              • -1

                @Bruceflix: I will absolutely guarantee you that no council will prosecute a disabled person who hasn’t picked up dog poo. Basically because they know if it got out the press would absolutely hammer them.

                • @try2bhelpful: No point in having laws if there is a class of citizen that is immune. Oh wait, we already have that with Politicians.

                  • +1

                    @Bruceflix: It is no use having laws that are so proscriptive that there is leniency for extenuating circumstances. If we don’t apply common sense to laws then we are mindless idiots.

          • +1

            @Bruceflix: There are other options. E.g. he needs to bring someone who is capable of cleaning up.
            Despite the fact that I'll get negged with you, I totally agree that everyone needs to accept thier own responsibility.

            What I would love to see is the guy give @try2behelpful or @iNeed2Pee an earful for assuming that they aren't responsible or capable.

            • +1

              @SlickMick: What makes you think he would give us the earful? I suspect he is more likely to have a go at the people who think a disabled person’s dog isn’t allowed a walk just because they can’t pick up after the dog had a crap. Especially as the guy didn’t actually pick it up. Honestly you guys make amazing assumptions when you weren’t actually there. If Yiu are that psychic can I please have next weeks Tattslotto numbers.

              • @try2bhelpful: I didn't assume anything. You assumed that that wouldn't happen, and you got lucky this time. I just hope that next time you try it, the situation goes the other way.

                Oh, I'd be quite happy to have that conversation if he thinks he can let his dog leave a mess anywhere. I don't mind if that person gets upset.

                But I'm talking about you encountering a decent person who does the right thing, and you treat them as if they aren't capable of doing the right thing.
                That's the scenario I want to see. Please report back if/ when it happens.

                • @SlickMick: I didn’t try anything. I didn’t say anything to him at all. I decided I wouldn’t hassle a guy in a mobility scooter because he didn’t pick up his dog’s crap. I find it bizarre that people who weren’t there think they know how the situation plays out.

          • @Bruceflix:

            A responsible pet owner cleans up after their animal. If he cannot take care of his animal he should reconsider ownership.

            Let me guess. You are the type of person that would leave an elderly woman in the gutter if she had fallen.

            • +1

              @CurlCurl: No, but I'd guess you would turn a blind eye to a pet owner that couldn't adequately look after their pet.

              • @Bruceflix:

                but I'd guess you would turn a blind eye to a pet owner that couldn't adequately look after their pet.

                If they were disabled, yes. If they were like you, not disabled, definitely not.

                Compassion is the word, something that you seem to be devoid of.

                • @CurlCurl: Thank you for admitting you would turn a blind eye to a pet that was being neglected. It shows who the one without compassion is. And that is an assumption to make an assessment on whether I am disabled or not.

                  • +1

                    @Bruceflix:

                    Today I witnessed three different people walking dogs, allow their dogs to wander into other people's front yards to do their business.

                    Two of these people had their dogs on leads, extended leads it would seem. One of these people had their dog off lead and it wandered into my own yard to do its business. While the owners did pick up their dog's poo, when did it become a thing that people let their dogs do this on other people's properties?

                    Seriously, have some respect for others and keep your dog off other people's property and for crying out loud, keep it on a lead, doesn't matter how close to your own house you are, it's the law!

                    The OP's post. I cant see the word neglected in it!

                    Think you should give up.

                    • @CurlCurl: You replied to my post where i said

                      you would turn a blind eye to a pet owner that couldn't adequately look after their pet

                      Do I need to spell out what "couldn't adequately look after their pet" means?

                      If they were disabled, yes. If they were like you, not disabled, definitely not.

                      How do you know my health status? Can disabled people not type on forums or is the defining symptom of disability being able to clean up after a pet?

              • -1

                @Bruceflix: Disabled people can still look after pets even if they can’t get down to pick up crap from the street.

                • +1

                  @try2bhelpful: If they can't pick up their crap from the street I'd suggest they also can't pick up their crap at home. Doesn't make for hygienic and healthy living for the pet or the owner. Would also suggest if they can't do that they can't fill up water bowls, can't do a lot of things that pet owners have to regularly do. Cleaning, grooming etc..

                  • @Bruceflix: So you think a blind person shouldn’t be allowed a guide dog if they decide not to grope around hoping to pick up their dog’s crap? I suggest a blind person is quite capable of all the things you are proposing and, most likely, they have an area in their yard where the dog goes. Honestly you guys draw a really long bow with your comparisons. If you are at home you can setup the area to make it easier for you to feed, groom, clean up, cuddle etc an animal. You may also have someone you can call for emergencies.

                    • +2

                      @try2bhelpful: I never said a disabled person shouldn't have pets. I said people that are unable (or unwilling) to adequately care for their pets shouldn't have them.

        • +3

          There are poop scoopers on long handles to help elderly people pick up poop. Some people also become disabled after they purchase a dog.

        • +2

          Well if he really wanted to clean it up he could use scooper. You can buy them lots of places, including Bunnings:
          https://www.bunnings.com.au/pet-waste-scooper_p0134374

          • -1

            @lunchbox99: A bit hard to manoeuvre if you can’t stand up.

            • +1

              @try2bhelpful: hard disagree. Scooping up a dog poo is not like digging a trench.

              • -2

                @lunchbox99: Someone in a wheelchair or motor scooter may not be able to manoeuvre to make it work. You can disagree but that doesn’t mean I’m wrong.

                • +2

                  @try2bhelpful: Good because I do disagree. There is nothing in what OP posted to imply the person couldn't use a poo scoop. You're just making up scenarios. I mean you could just propose some equally unfounded scenario of "what if their arms don't work?". Doesn't mean anything.

                  • @lunchbox99: I’m talking about my own observation from a walk I had the other day, not what the OP saw. Go back and read my post.

  • I hope you haven't got a wandering cat OP. They are Australia's 2nd biggest enviro disaster.
    I do agree though, it aint that hard to have a dog on a lead. Next time take a photo of the dog shitting , and paste it with the owners image everywhere you can. BTW what did you say to the dog owner?

    • +2

      Don't get me started on roaming cats in my area. The level of entitlement around where I live is unreal.
      I live across the road from a bird sanctuary/swamplands and the amount of roaming cats I see is unbelievable, even after dark.
      And yes I do own a cat, well my wife does, and its contained to our property.

      • Ppl with properly controlled cats should not be paying any license for cats and receive cheaper rates.

  • +11

    My issue is they come in my yard just to bark at me. I'm allowed to exist in my own yard.

    • +9

      Be the one who barks back.(running fwd at the same time)
      Owner or dog, your choice.

        • +3

          Not related to most of this thread but how is this legal?

          buy a 'bait-thrower"(tackleworldadelaide.com.au)

          SA Dangerous Articles

          Dangerous articles are a risk to public safety. You cannot possess a dangerous article unless it is allowed under another Act.
          Dangerous articles include:
          anti-theft case designed to give an electric shock
          blow gun or blow pipe
          commercially made catapult / slingshot without a brace

          Do they not fit the description of point number three?

          • @Grunntt: I reckon you're right, especially when the instructions add ammo to the list of items it catapults… and it comes with ball bearings but no bait or burley.

      • Then the neighbours might think I'm crazy…good idea!

  • +29

    Especially those that insist their dogs are harmless and that think everyone in the world loves dogs. Scumbags.

    • +25

      I was attacked by a dog when I was a teenager, I was out for a run and it attacked me from behind, took a good chunk out of my leg, tried to attack again while I was on the ground. Owners claimed I must have provoked it.

      I am sick to death of owners thinking it’s adorable when their dog runs up to people to be “friendly”.

    • +1

      As a dog owner myself, I absolutely cannot stand stupid dog owners.

      There was this dog that always gets aggressive towards my dog at the local dog park and the owner did not care. Sometimes she pretends like she's trying to stop her dog but never puts in the real effort to try and stop it from happening. After a few times of this happening, I got so fed up with this dog attacking my dog when all my dog cares about is playing with her ball, so I got into an argument with the entitled owner. She actually suggested that my dog being attacked could be something to do with my dog! That's how entitled and crazy some dogs owners are.

      Then there are these middle aged women who bring their dogs to the dog park and instead of looking and cleaning up after their dogs, they sit around yapping away about their inconsequential lives completely ignorant to the fact that their dog just pooped or are running around harrassing other dogs.

  • +16

    What about all the entitled dog owners that think they can take their little bag of filth anywhere or let it off the lead because signs/restrictions don't apply to their darling sh1tbag because it is so special and everyone should love it

    Had someone bring their dog to a BBQ at my house a while back and just release it into the house without even asking. They then got upset when I said they could tie it up outside the front and they left

      • +27

        It doesn't matter, their house, their rules.

        You don't just bring a dog to someones house and let it roam inside without asking.

        As a pet owner myself, I would tell them to get the dog outside too.

        Its like pricks who see a pile of shoes at the door, but walk in with their shoes on anyhow.

        • +7

          Its like pricks who see a pile of shoes at the door, but walk in with their shoes on anyhow.

          Absolutely hate that. Tracking their filthy shoes through my house.

      • +1

        If he had a dog as well, that's even more of a reason to kick them out- do you really want two dogs that don't know each other running around the house?

    • +7

      Go to America and then see how good we have it. It's unbelievable how many fake service dogs there are there.

      Best thing I've seen was when an entitled lady walked into a government agency while carrying a Chihuahua service dog, they kicked her out as they said no pets allowed. She cried it was a service dog, they said it doesn't matter. It was beautiful I tell ya.

      • +2

        Paris is worse: feeding dogs at the table in restaurants.

        • +2

          Some parts of Asia feed dogs at the table,too. To customers.

          • @Protractor: lol yeah that's worse…. though I guess they're actually solving the dog problem we're discussing.

          • @Protractor: How is that any different to eating a cow or a pig?

            • +1

              @belongsinforums: Ask Mick.

              Most ppl have a hierarchy of what they value in order of sentient value.
              Me? I just place a lot of non human species well above a lot of individual humans on that list.
              Suffice to say the gutless dog baiter types wallow in the sewer below the list.

      • Saw a man take his dog into Westfield the other day

        • I think Skynews has dogs on their channel on a regular basis.

  • +12

    I believe it's just the general level of entitlement increasing, everyone is special.

    • Because participation trophies exist

  • +9

    We are in a Council area that provides compostable bags free every 3 months and a green bag pick up weekly. What Pixxes me off is the owners that pick up the poo and then can't be bothered to walk the extra 50m to drop it into a bin in the park or wherever they're walking and just leave the bag and contents on the foot path-if they bother to pick it up at all. They walk along cycle paths and then kids rids through it and smear it further.

    • +4

      Or the pile of bags dumped next to the bin.

  • +1

    What, do you mean you not having a fence to keep them out doesn't give implied consent for them to do it?

  • +2

    They're "Companion Animals" now.

    No way I'd be a landlord now with this stupid by-law.

  • +4

    Tbh I’d just be glad they pick up the turds
    Unbelievable amount of dog shit on footpaths, it’s disgraceful. On the walk to school (900m) it’s not unusual to see dog shit on the actual footpath.
    So glad to live in a dead end court that doesn’t get foot traffic

  • -5

    Dog shit is biodegradable, a bit of Sun and rain and it disappears. The plastic bags we use to pick it up in lasts a lot longer than the turds. Unpleasant, but not exactly a seismic issue. When we first moved into our area 30 years ago the first order of the day was to take a plastic milk bottle and collect the syringes in our street. We would then take them down to the disposal centre.

    I think people should cleanup after their pets but we need a more biodegradable collection system and more places for owners to dump the crap.

    • +2

      Dog poop bags haven't been plastic for years. They are made out of onion peel or something else biodegradable. At least the ones I have are.

      • Glad to hear. I do hope everyone uses those style bags. BTW do you know what the timeframe is for breakdown?

      • +2

        Does Tony Abbott snack on them?

        • +2

          Only when they are full

        • Lol. Are you calling him a shit eater?

          • +1

            @Windows7forever: No I'm calling him an onion eater. He may very well consider the idea of the concept above, value-adding though. Not many ppl know how Tone's unique pumpkin operates.I'm not even convinced he does.

    • +15

      Why would you let your dogs enter someone's property?

      I have two dogs and never let them do that.

      That's just irresponsible.

        • +6

          It’s trespassing whether it’s fenced or not. Am I good to take a crap at your front door as long as I pick it up and only leave a bit of poopy residue behind?

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