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  FireRunner on 14/12/2024 - 10:23

  +4

  I like that Intel is bringing some real fight to the competition but this is just RRP

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  freefall101 on 14/12/2024 - 10:32

  +1

  While it’s a good retail price, it’s worth remembering this drops 6 days before Boxing Day. Probably worth holding unless it’s for a Christmas gift.

  The 4060 went as low as $329 during Black Friday, which is better bang for buck.

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  motion2082 on 14/12/2024 - 10:35

  +1

  Intel for the Win in the GPU market.

  Hopefully they can make a card that competes with the 4080 for half the cost.

  Big middle finger to Nvidia

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  MHLoppy on 14/12/2024 - 10:44

  +7

  Battlemage B580 is an ideal 1080p high/1440p mid card, 10% faster than the 4060 with 4GB extra VRAM, XeSS 2 upscaling and VVC/H.266 decoding
  AMD's low end RDNA 3 7000 series cards - lacking matrix/AI cores, proper upscaling/RT, ROCm support etc can now be seen as the e-waste they truly are

  Battlemage is exciting! It's FANTASTIC that in a relatively short time frame, Intel seems to have become competitive in the consumer GPU space. I was also personally impressed by the significant improvements to the LE cooler assembly.

  But can we please not do this emotional tribal bullshit? Buy the product(s) that suit(s) your needs at your price point. This isn't a fanboy competition, and we're not here to be hypeclubs for corporations.

  10% faster than the 4060

  But since this is just the MSRP and not a sale price, it's also 33% more expensive than the last 4060 deal ($329 delivered with ebay plus), which still got less votes than this deal currently does. It feels like there's WAY too much hype going on here.

  4GB extra VRAM

  Yes, it's pretty nice, but for most people it's just a matter of how it affects performance, and what the price of the final product is. See again: 4060 going for sub-$400 multiple times

  XeSS 2 upscaling

  Yes, XeSS upscaling is quite good. How good the new stuff in XeSS 2 is (e.g., frame generation) remains to be seen. This isn't a religion. We can wait for the evidence in reviews before deciding if it's good or not.

  VVC/H.266 decoding

  It doesn't support this (while writing this comment the OP was updated)

  AMD's low end RDNA 3 7000 series cards - lacking matrix/AI cores, proper upscaling/RT, ROCm support etc can now be seen as the e-waste they truly are

  This is some real MuserBenchark stuff.

  • There aren't that many consumer uses for the AI hardware unless you're actually into doing AI stuff on your local machine.
  • Most games that implement raytracing don't look better with it enabled. The ones that do tend to murder your performance (written version of the second video), and few of those will run acceptably smoothly on a card like this.
  • AMD having less-than-CUDA GPU compute support doesn't magically make Intel's as good as CUDA's. Like seriously, this is a con of an Intel card not a pro? Yes, they're working on it. Last I checked (and, in fairness, this is not "my scene") it's not there yet.

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  Second-gen Intel GPUs? Exciting! Competition! Looking forward to the B7xx cards! Looking forward even more to the Cxxx cards!

  Should you buy a B580 at this price: if you weren't willing to buy a 4060 for $329, probably not.

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    JTayzer on 14/12/2024 - 11:08

    +1

    "It feels like there's WAY too much hype going on here." Literally this.

    I am not super hyped, it's a good step in the right direction for Intel but only because they HAD to. If they didn't do this, their GPU division would be completely joever. They can do better though, especially with pricing - that is my main point.

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    ozfool on 14/12/2024 - 12:10

    -1

    A 4060 for $400 (common deal price, current low is $420) is about even value with a b580 for $439 just going by performance and not other hype features.

    The $330 deal had near zero stock and was an anomolously good deal that almost seemed like a pricing error, I was refeshing it constantly for 2 days and couldn't get one. The true black friday price for available stock was $380.

    I want to buy a B580 but this is just a hype post and not a deal, might be worth a neg.

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  Grish on 14/12/2024 - 11:11

  The 10% faster than 4060 is often only due to 4060 crapping itself out from maxed vram usage.

  4060 currently benefits more with relative upscaling gains (DLSS) than the Intel equiv.

  Power consumption is also considerably higher than a 4060 (~100w vs ~190-220+) which is also a fair consideration, often glossed over by reviewers.

  Then of course there's drivers and old game compatability where it will lose out to amd/nvidia by a lot.

  I think it needs to be just under $400au and it will be more of tinkerers card than a mainstream one, but still very happy that Intel are moving in the right direction to rock the GPU boat.

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  dammit on 14/12/2024 - 11:15

  Thinking of building my son his first gaming PC but total ideal budget will be like $1k, mainly for things like Fortnite, minecraft etc where he wants super high fps. Should I go for something like this or pick up a second hand GPU?

  Just not sure on ratio of GPU spend vs other components and if this would be a better choice.

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  hippyhippy on 14/12/2024 - 11:26

  Remember when 400 was the top tier price bracket …

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  kml22 on 14/12/2024 - 11:46

  +1

  Lots of up votes, but how many actual buyer?

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    Bid Sniper on 14/12/2024 - 13:01

    I have last gen and love it for 1440p gaming.

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  Xizor on 14/12/2024 - 11:54

  Still rocking a standard RTX 2060. God, do i need an upgrade. Probably need to replace the entire PC though.

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    Duplicity on 14/12/2024 - 12:03

    I've got a 2070 super with an 8700k and I was looking at a 4080super which would supposedly be 40%+ bottlenecked by the 8700k lol

    As you said basically a whole rebuild needed

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      Xizor on 14/12/2024 - 12:10

      I cant even remember what my CPU is. Maybe Rizen 5 1600 or something similar.

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  beesa888 on 14/12/2024 - 13:51

  I've been looking at upgrading my 1660 Super.

  But given the price, would it be worth just getting an old RTX 3070 for around similar money or less? Around say $350?

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