Do You Consider 58c Extra as Rounding up?

harshbdmmaster718 on 02/12/2024 - 22:54
Last edited 03/12/2024 - 00:27 by 1 other user

I’ve been rounded up by like 13c or 18c before to charity. didn’t mind that and was also dealing with a person so I heard the amount and said yes.

This time it was a touchscreen I tapped a bit too quick and didn’t see the amount clearly (I do remember the words “do you mind rounding up” though) but still thought why not. Later I checked the receipt, and it was 58c extra for “rounding up to the next dollar”. isn’t that pushing it?

Like I thought rounding up was $19.98 to $20.00, or maybe $19.88 to $19.90. I’m willing to give some wiggle room for charity and it’s about 1% of my shop but 50c every week is going to make a dent.

Poll Options

  • 86
    Yes
  • 36
    -No
Food & Grocery

Comments

  • MS Paint on 02/12/2024 - 23:02
    +2

    Donate $1.42 next time then you can combine the receipts and make a personal tax deduction.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 02/12/2024 - 23:03

      you can’t choose what to donate. it just randomly comes up with the amount I think it depends on how close you are to the next dollar. but I thought there would be a limit. like if it’s over 20c the touchscreen doesn’t ask?!

      it’s my own fault I know i hover my finger over the screen ready to tap because I want to speed things up and sometimes don’t get to read everything.

      last time I did this in the flybuys app I wanted flybuys points not $50 off next shop, and after reading the $50 off T&C’s I tapped activate and ruined it. 😂

      • Aleigh123 on 03/12/2024 - 07:31
        +6

        It's not random. It rounds up to the next dollar.

        You can also choose to manually add a donation.

        • EightImmortals on 03/12/2024 - 08:32
          -7

          So if my purchase was $1.05 you think it's OK to 'round up' to $2?
          Come in spinner.

          • Aleigh123 on 03/12/2024 - 09:31
            +12

            @EightImmortals: If you accepted the round up, then yes. I do think it's okay.

          • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:09

            @EightImmortals:

            So if my purchase was $1.05 you think it's OK to 'round up' to $2?

            apparently most users here do. if it's for "charity".

            early on it was about 8 yes and 2 no. yes is still ahead. 🤷‍♀️

            • try2bhelpful on 03/12/2024 - 16:12
              +2

              @harshbdmmaster718: it is the OPs choice as to whether he decides to donate to the charity. 95c is not a huge donation to make to a charity you agree with. If you don't agree with the charity you don't need to donate. We have been getting some really flaky posts lately and this is just another of them.

              • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:16

                @try2bhelpful: what's wrong with flakey? I was just being honest. maybe I shouldn't have wrote my opinion/thoughts in the post and just have it be the title with a poll next time but wheres the fun in that? I don't think it's that difficult just a simple question and I got my answer.

                and not sure why my post is flagged as whinging by some comments when you scroll down forums and that's what most posts basically are, on most websites. isn't that why users come to forums? tbh if I saw the title of my own OP I would probably scroll past. 😂

                • try2bhelpful on 03/12/2024 - 17:11
                  +5

                  @harshbdmmaster718: It is a pathetic amount for money going to a charity. You obviously don’t put a monetary value on your time. Frankly I’ve donated with a few of these things and I just make a quick yes or no decision and then move on. I don’t think OMG I thought I was donating 5c and now it is 95c. How will I be able to afford my investment car now?

                  I have been trying to scroll past the more pointless posts out there but this one is just so petty. I have no idea whether these charity things make a difference but the small amount of money means almost nothing to me but taken over the number of people who donate it might come to a useful amount. On the scale of “I’ve been scammed” it doesn’t even rate a blip.

                  However you are right that in the world is going to hell in a handcart scale this post is also a minor blip.

                  • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 18:18

                    @try2bhelpful: yeah petty. i didn't think of it that way when posting. I feel kinda bad now like it's sending the wrong message. maybe I should have left my own opinions about money out of it. because in the end everyone makes their own decision right?
                    I don't drive and don't have a car. but you are right I don't have a good idea of the value of money/time and saving money. but I am able to afford rent food and occasional product (I don't buy every single deal I post btw, someone had that opinion once as proof) so I'm not homeless like I assume some people that go to charities are.
                    I have a similar opinion of charities as you btw, not sure where the money is actually going. I remember a story about a well known charity it was revealed they spent over 70% of donations on paying employees and marketing ads etc. but they have to run the charity right so I thought some of that makes sense. but I have always accepted and donated so far anyway because society says it's the right thing to do no matter how little you have. I always wanted to know the amount though (I don't fully agree with it but I did it anyway). thanks for mentioning the petty part.
                    and you might not believe me but I had to look up what petty meant. I do that a lot I look up words while I watch movies. not that I'm saying it's bad or anything.

                    • try2bhelpful on 03/12/2024 - 21:21

                      @harshbdmmaster718: I didn’t mean to come over so harsh. The world is going to shit at the moment and I just had a FFS moment on this. My bad too. The amounts are really just so small with these purchases you just go with your vibe.. I do agree that the “charity” stuff can get a bit much. I certainly wouldn’t put money up on a go fund me page for some numpty who didn’t buy travel insurance and is now stuck. But a pet place doing animal shelter work is pretty much a no brainer for me.

                      The investment car is a bit of a running joke on this site. It is a bit about priorities.

                      Keep with the dictionary stuff. When I was a kid my mum sat me down with books and a dictionary next to me. What I didn’t know I looked up. Broaden your horizons. Next stop cryptic crosswords.

                      • GnarlyKnuckles on 04/12/2024 - 03:54

                        @try2bhelpful: haberdashery718,

                        For once I agree with almost everything TBH has said above. The exception is the cryptic crosswords. Steer very clear of those. Like various 'social media platforms', cryptic crosswords can become an extreme waste of time.

                        • try2bhelpful on 04/12/2024 - 12:07

                          @GnarlyKnuckles: Cryptics are the extreme sports of word puzzles but they bring everything you know to the table and give you a puzzle to solve. They are addictive and can involve a high level of smugness if you do solve them.

      • Protractor on 03/12/2024 - 10:42

        Welcome to capitalism. What are you doing with all that accumulated time you save with your hovering finger?

        • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:10

          What are you doing with all that accumulated time you save with your hovering finger?

          obviously accidentally accepting to donate a unknown amount to charity. 😂

  • brendanm on 02/12/2024 - 23:06
    +5

    but 50c every week is going to make a dent.

    I'm unsure if you are serious.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 02/12/2024 - 23:08
      -1

      think about it in a year. that’s 52? weeks right. so $26 I could have had in my pocket. if $5 in a year I am much less likely to notice.

      • brendanm on 02/12/2024 - 23:09
        +13

        If $26 a year "makes a dent" that's quite worrying.

        • harshbdmmaster718 on 02/12/2024 - 23:10
          +3

          you do know what a dent is don’t you? it means you notice and care about it.
          if it’s at more shops a week it could add up to even more.

          I’m on a site that cares about scrounging dollars extra as discount (cash back ?) so to be honest not what I expected to hear.

          I guess you are one of the 2 who considers it as rounding up then. 💁‍♀️

          • 7ekn00 on 02/12/2024 - 23:24

            @harshbdmmaster718: If you care about the money, just disable the feature …

            • harshbdmmaster718 on 02/12/2024 - 23:25
              -2

              @7ekn00: ok I never knew you could do that will have a longer look next time.

              well my point is I don’t mind ~10c but over 50c is way more than expected. but I guess I have given enough by now.

            • AngoraFish on 03/12/2024 - 19:19

              @7ekn00: If you can point me in the direction of how I can disable those annoying popups at the self checkouts nearly every time I visit the supermarket you will have my eternal gratitude.

          • brendanm on 03/12/2024 - 07:37
            +3

            @harshbdmmaster718:

            you do know what a dent is don’t you?

            Yes, I sure do.

            it means you notice and care about it.

            You would honestly notice $26 over an entire year?

  • Hybroid on 02/12/2024 - 23:15
    +2

    Yes it's rounding up to the nearest dollar in the context of donating change to charity. I believe Dominos does this too.

    I presume you are referring to Woolworths. Someone once mentioned they use these donations to offset paying tax. No idea if there's any merit to it or it's just BS.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 02/12/2024 - 23:16

      Yes it's rounding up to the nearest dollar in the context of donating change to charity.

      ok fair I didn’t know that. last time at Myer it was like 13c I had no problem with that. the other time was at Priceline I think.

      looks like I will be making sure to tap decline every time now.

      number 1 is what’s your phone number/postcode? number 2 is are you a member? number 3 is round up for charity. I’m expecting a number 4 real soon if anyone has insider info on what it is please let me know. 😭

      • Hybroid on 02/12/2024 - 23:26
        +1

        I mean the flipside is places like the Food Bank seem to see it as a huge boost with $770,000 in donations received (unknown time period) which can help countless other people. You won't feel that dent at all but it makes a difference to others in need.

        https://www.foodbank.org.au/woolworths-round-up-success/

    • MS Paint on 02/12/2024 - 23:22
      +4

      they use these donations to offset paying tax

      It's just an urban myth.

      • DashCam AKA Rolts on 03/12/2024 - 08:35

        ADACRHS

        Will this be approved by the committee?

        • MS Paint on 03/12/2024 - 08:37
          +2

          7 letters ✅
          Makes sense ✅
          Innovative ✅
          Mapax agrees ❓

          • HamBoi69 on 03/12/2024 - 08:46

            @MS Paint: All those ticks but no self-declaration!!

            Level 10 - Helpful Comment ✅

      • gromit on 04/12/2024 - 15:53

        yep as it is a donation to the charity from you they are not eligible for a tax deduction on it.

  • stirlo on 02/12/2024 - 23:36
    +9

    If you don't like it just select no, always. I hate "forced" charity so I always unequivocally say no whenever asked (by self checkout, staff, door knockers, chuggers and beggars). Then once a year sit down, determine what you're comfortable parting with and donate it to a cause you believe in as a lump sum.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 02/12/2024 - 23:37

      I hate "forced" charity

      yeah from what I remember multiple times you can’t select the charity. it’s already chosen for you and some just have random names so you have no idea where the donation is going. one time I asked and even the worker didn’t know.

    • GnarlyKnuckles on 03/12/2024 - 04:38
      +3

      The OP alludes to 58 cents; not 50 cents.

    • Aleigh123 on 03/12/2024 - 07:41
      +5

      Putting words in our mouths I see. I would imagine most people would just not donate if they don't want to donate.
      While I don't know if it's changed, the kiosks definitely used to say: "Would you like to round the transaction to $XX.00 and donation $0.YY to <Charity Name>?"

      • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:07
        -7

        Putting words in our mouths I see.

        this is the fifth time now I try to say something which I thought "was the ozbargain way" because plenty of times I have had comments directed at me that said "on behalf of all users on ozb" or "everyone here thinks so and so".

        but when I use it the response is like "hey you can't that's rude!". I'm only trying to fit in. the other 4 times by the way are different examples but I tried to make a ozb inside joke and everybody responds as if offended. 😭

    • timthetoolman on 03/12/2024 - 07:35
      +1

      That's a rule for rounding.
      OP said they asked to round up

      • GnarlyKnuckles on 04/12/2024 - 04:09
        -6

        Here's the thing though:

        You 'round up', OR you 'round down', depending on the actual digits.

        That is what 'rounding' is/means/is defined as, in the science of mathematics, and by extension, in all sciences.

        ERGO/as an example 'rounding $2.12 up to $3.00' is utter and complete BS that would be instantly rejected by any mathematician/statistician/scientist/academic journal/logical thinker/etc.

        • Crow K on 04/12/2024 - 08:54
          +4

          ERGO/as an example 'rounding $2.12 up to $3.00' is utter and complete BS that would be instantly rejected by any mathematician/statistician/scientist/academic journal/logical thinker/etc.

          No, it wouldn't. I don't know authority you think you have to speak on behalf of that group, but you're wrong.

          Up (or down) is being used as a modifier to explain the direction the rounding occurs in. It's exactly the same as the difference between the word "climb" by itself, versus the phrase "climb down".

          And no, we don't need you to speak on behalf of all the mountaineers now to tell us "climb" means to ascend a slope so a phrase like "climb down from a tree" is absolute BS.

        • timthetoolman on 04/12/2024 - 08:56
          +1

          They're not talking to mathematicians or scientists or academics, they're talking to shoppers. It's a very easy and straight forward statement to follow.

          You might be over thinking it a tad

        • Save 50 Cent on 04/12/2024 - 19:03

          You type too much on a pretty insignificant matter for a busy person.

    • pjetson on 03/12/2024 - 07:59
      +5

      please note that 'rounding' is a mathematically defined function

      It was "rounding up", not just "rounding". Even 200.01 rounded up is 201.

      • Protractor on 03/12/2024 - 11:12
        +2

        I use Roundup on weeds

    • johnno07 on 04/12/2024 - 12:44
      +5

      A classic lengthy comment TALKING WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY on a subject, and being obviously clueless.
      Complete lack of understanding about math, science, and the law all in one go.

      Nice try, m7.1 (rounded up).

      • GnarlyKnuckles on 04/12/2024 - 15:39
        -4

        LOL. The mathematical fact/reality is it is not logical/appropriate to 'round up' numbers with a digit after the decimal point that is less than 5. Stating that you can 'round up' 2.1 to 3 is like stating that you can make white paint black if you chuck enough black paint in it.

        • try2bhelpful on 04/12/2024 - 15:44
          +1

          Rounding up to the next whole number is “rounding up”. If someone just said they were “rounding” then that would be a different matter, in that case you can use your analogy. If you can provide me with an authoritative mathematical site to back your argument I would be happy to concede.

        • Crow K on 04/12/2024 - 16:28
          +1

          Excel has ROUND, ROUNDUP and ROUNDDOWN functions. They do what you expect them to (and don't cause the computer to break). People in technical sciences use them all the time.

          Dig out your handouts from "Introduction to Word and Excel" and see for yourself.

    • apsilon on 03/12/2024 - 06:23
      +6

      What law says you can't ask if they mind rounding to the next dollar and then doing so when they agree?

      • GnarlyKnuckles on 03/12/2024 - 17:02

        Yeah my bad, I should have been clearer/worded it better. What I meant was the law in Australia is that you can 'round off' prices (to the nearest 5 cents), but you must round off (i.e., both up and down in accordance with the rules of maths); you can't just always round up.

    • Crow K on 03/12/2024 - 09:27
      +2

      Trying your arm at legal analysis again, huh.

      Can you share with the rest of us exactly what law is broken by asking someone if they want to round up an amount they're paying to the next dollar?

    • Protractor on 03/12/2024 - 11:13

      If only BS like that was illegal.

  • ifyareckon on 03/12/2024 - 05:18
    +5

    If the touchscreen is asking if you want to round up to the next dollar, this whole premise is exactly what it says…. "rounding to the next dollar". Pretty self explanatory and would apply if your purchase was $19.01 or $19.99. Pretty easy to hit the decline option rather than stress over how close to the nearest dollar you actually are.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:20
      -1

      "rounding to the next dollar".

      I just assumed it was only asking me because I was close to the next dollar. like 68.80, or 69.95 etc. wouldn't you? well maybe not because looks like I completely didn't understand what rounding up for charity meant.

      • Save 50 Cent on 04/12/2024 - 19:10

        Has nothing to do with understanding what rounding up for charity means. The key word you need to understand is "next dollar". Just like "on top of the hour" means 13:00 whether it is 12:01 or 12:59.

  • apsilon on 03/12/2024 - 06:22
    +2

    If it said round up to the next dollar then yes, even $0.99 cents would be rounding to the next dollar.

  • surfingedge on 03/12/2024 - 06:47
    +2

    You are rounding UP to the next whole dollar.

    It doesn't say round up to the next multiple of 10 cents or the next multiple of 50 cents.

    Neither does it say "if total is between $X.00 and $X.50 don't do anything, but if total is between $X.51 and $X.99 round up".

  • mapax on 03/12/2024 - 07:31

    Is the poll based on the title or on the body?

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:22

      I thought if the title was a question it would be obvious but maybe not.. as original said they got confused.

  • ginormousgiraffe on 03/12/2024 - 07:41
    +2

    Just say no and donate a bit more to a charity that resonates with you every now and then instead of letting whichever company take the moral credit

  • cashless on 03/12/2024 - 08:09
    +2

    Just in case you haven't realised it yet OP, the clue is in the word "UP".
    And FYI, most OzBargainers who are careful with their budget, would not agree to rounding up randomly at a checkout.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:24
      -1

      Just in case you haven't realised it yet OP, the clue is in the word "UP".

      yes thanks I actually hadn't realised. comments seem to be using both rounding up and rounding. I actually thought the small amount of cents (usually like 2, 3c) up to the next dollar was called rounding up. so rounding up to the next dollar can be the maximum amount of cents (in particular for charity). 🙏

  • GordonD on 03/12/2024 - 08:12
    +8

    Its cents.

    Its going to charity.

    And the OP is asked and has the opportunity to say no.

    Yet they are still whingeing. Gees.

    • brendanm on 03/12/2024 - 08:43
      +3

      The classic ozbargain forum post, whining over nothing, even when given a choice.

    • try2bhelpful on 03/12/2024 - 09:41

      Absolutely. I wonder if the OP realises how bad this makes him look? WCON.

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:25
      -3

      Yet they are still whingeing.

      why is impulsively wanting to get an answer from ozb whinging? aren't most forum posts a whinge anyway? I put a question in the title and put yes and no options. didn't think it would cause a chain reaction for so many people I actually thought I would barely get any comments since it's a poll. but seems like people want to discuss it or let me know something. it's not that deep. 😂

  • mrkorrupt on 03/12/2024 - 09:20
    -1

    Donate two dollars and get the receipt then claim it off tax, cause with these round up, they claim it instead.

    • ThithLord on 03/12/2024 - 09:58
      +3

      cause with these round up, they claim it instead.

      Doubt [x]

  • jlien on 03/12/2024 - 10:04

    i've seen it ask me if i wanted to round up to $21.00 from my $20.00 purchase

    • harshbdmmaster718 on 03/12/2024 - 16:28

      at that point I think it should say "do you want to add a dollar to charity" instead of "rounding up". 🤣

      but if it's 00 I notice because I like things when they are whole and that's correct to the dollar. so it shouldn't ask you for anything!

  • Flying Ace on 03/12/2024 - 10:17

    One of the greatest cons is supermarkets who make over a billion dollars of profits every year asking the general public to donate to charity at the register.

    • Ryanek on 03/12/2024 - 11:26

      They are just facilitating a convenient way for you to donate, in a situation where you are primed to do so, to support causes that you might otherwise overlook.

      I don't see the problem?

      • Crow K on 03/12/2024 - 13:36

        It's because there isn't one.

        It's the same twisted "logic" as when a celebrity appears in a UNICEF ad asking you to make a donation and blurting out "that guy gets $50 million a movie, what a CON asking US to give to that charity"

        • Ryanek on 03/12/2024 - 14:25
          +1

          That's right. The alternative is to do nothing.

      • AngoraFish on 03/12/2024 - 19:02
        +1

        They're never a cause "you might otherwise overlook". It's always either something that you'd have to be hiding under a rock to not know about, like the Good Friday Appeal or Variety, or something that sits under a dedicated foundation that the company itself created as a tax deductible vehicle to soften their image and support whatever marketing narrative suits them at the time, like supermarkets supporting "farmers" and also, conveniently, every related advertisement they produce for months if not years afterwards.

  • Protractor on 03/12/2024 - 10:44

    Is the gullibility tax this high already?

  • original15 on 03/12/2024 - 11:08

    I meant to vote yes
    But I accidentally clicked no. Was responding to your line “isn’t that pushing it”

  • Ghost47 on 03/12/2024 - 12:28
    +5

    I thought it was clear when this pop up appears that it’ll round up to the nearest whole dollar no matter how far away from that dollar you are, e.g. 5c or 98c.

    but 50c every week is going to make a dent.

    Is someone holding a gun to your head and forcing you to tap the yes button?

  • AngoraFish on 03/12/2024 - 18:54
    +1

    I never do round up. If I am donating to charity it's to one of my own choice, not the one that suits a big company to put in their annual report as a community service at my expense.

    But yep, if I were to deliberately select the round up option it's pretty clear that the principle is to the next whole dollar, not the next 50 cents.

    It's not like anyone is forcing you to click that button. Just say no.

  • johnno07 on 04/12/2024 - 12:45

    Goodness gracious. If "50c every week is going to make a dent"

    Stop.
    Donating.

    This is not rocket science.

  • netjock on 04/12/2024 - 14:01

    There was a joke going around that the company takes your cash and then puts through the donation and gets a tax deduction for it. Meanwhile you lose out.

    At the charity level they pay no tax as a NFP. Their employees get a Salary sacrifice arrangements (only available to NFPs, now you know part of the reason why even little bit wealthy people setup a foundation).

    If you are really into a cause just send them a cheque at the end of the year and you'll get emails and letters every month alerting you to another "need" they suddenly have.

  • CrabLord on 04/12/2024 - 14:05

    Why would you 'donate' to a Woolworths or McDonalds? Do you trust they actually forward that to a charitable cause, rather than their own corporate bs fluff charity? Even if they wholly do the right thing ( the surely do not), why would you increase Woolworths turnover inflating their cash flow for them to write it off?

    You want to donate to charity, good on you. Do it yourself, not run through the bullshit of a mega corporation.

    • trapper on 04/12/2024 - 15:35

      McDonalds I would actually trust on this.

  • zealmax on 04/12/2024 - 14:47

    The retailer should do their part in donating to charity. Get consumers to donate and for the retailer to get all of the credit for the donations isn't right.

  • coffeeinmyveins on 04/12/2024 - 15:22
    -1

    I’m willing to give some wiggle room for charity

    Except you're not.

    Woolworths and others are just using your money, which you've paid tax on, to donate to their own BS charities or mates charities and write it off as a deduction themselves.

    I'll never understand why people don't see through this BS.

    • gromit on 04/12/2024 - 16:04
      +2

      That is complete conspiracy garbage, they do not get it as a tax deduction, they are issuing you a receipt for the donation, for them to claim a deduction for it would be tax fraud that the ATO would absolutely ream them for. The charities are also listed, things like OzHarvest, hardly a mates pet charity.

  • trapper on 04/12/2024 - 15:32
    +1

    Rounding up could be as much as 99c extra, that's what rounding up means.

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