Hard drive prices in general are steep right now but this seems like a decent price for local stock.
Seagate 20TB Expansion Desktop Hard Drive $499 + Delivery ($0 to Metro Areas/ in-Store Pickup) @ Officeworks (Online Only)
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My first 1GB was more than that. Cue someone else saying they paid even more for a 1MB hard drive…
Well actually back in around 1990 i almost paid that for a 1 mb hdd. I think it was a touch cheaper from memory…
hehehe Misha said "from memory" hehe
The ibm XTs of the early 1980s had 10 Mb internal hard drives… I can't remember the hdd size when I upgraded to a PC around 1991, but it must have been north of 100Mb. I recall the whole thing costing me about $3.5K….. significant bucks back then.
Every PC I've bought since then has been cheaper and more capable than the last. Some things are getting cheaper!
@rooster7777: And the 10MB drive was bigger than stone kids lunch boxes these days
@rooster7777: Granted, the margins resellers were making back then were SIGNIFICANT compared to the pocket change they make now, that's what free trade, parallel imports, and competition gets you.
Back in my day, the single-sided Atari ones held 360 kb. Later, double-sided ones of 720 kb came out. The kids who had them thought they were the bee’s knees! They strutted around with their floppy disks like they owned the place. They'd sell them for $4 each or 4 clearies (rarer marbles) in a vinyl pouch, which was the style at the time.
That be because it had to be bought from a museum.
20MB plus was pretty standard by 1990.
My 400MB quantum drive was more than OP back in mid nineties.
Still cheap considering 4MB of RAM (upgraded to 8MB!) and a 4X CDROM drive cost me about $600.
I think you are thinking of the quantum fireball drives? They were so fast and relatively cheap for their day
Yep I used Quantum SCSI 300mb drives in my BBS in the mid nineties, they were $500-600 each and we considered them cheap.
So was mine but it was recertified! What was that deal you scored?
And refurbed to be fair
how is seagate reliability now, lost data at this size will be pain
True, get 2 for backup then. LoL
That is actually good advice.
Four for RAID10 :D
What’s the tldr version of why hdds haven’t got bigger or cheaper in the last 5 years?
Because AI development = more data centres = More HDD needed = strong demand = no need to drop price.
Just my guess.Why lower prices when the manufacturers have no competition to do so.
Why not bigger? People would likely go with cloud and/or NAS storage for larger than 20TB.
Why not cheaper? Economies of scale. Shift in demand (SSD and cloud becoming more popular, reliable and convenient).
And a whole heap of other technological and production related reasons would be my guess.
Hard drives are bigger than 5 years ago - consumer drives topped out at 18 TB then and we're up to 24 TB now.
I think limits on conventional hdd platter sizes. Not sure..
It’s probably temporary.
There has been some significant breakthroughs with Magnetic HDD’s, with 3D magnetic recording and HAMR. I expect they will eventually reduce costs and boost HDD capacities.
There's been significant consolidation in the hard drive market and it's heavily anti-competitive IMHO.
Can you shuck these bad boys?
Keen to find out too. And what disk is inside
Traditionally the expansion desktop range is so thinking this will be too. There's a spreadsheet around somewhere with the internal drives
I'm sure the speeds aren't going to be great on this.
It's a hard drive. If you want speed, get some SSDs and use them as an HDD cache.
Its bad if its shingled (SMR)
Should be around 250MB/s.
Now THAT is a lot of Pron.
I think the keyword you’re looking for is ISOs
I purchased one of these this morning, purely back up purposes..think its good value and have the shipped notification in my account.
Bargain, thanks! Free delivery with onepass too.
Anyone shucked?
Exos inside?
could you imagine losing 20TB of pron!
how do you back it up? anything that size needs to be raid1 with two drives
Buy 3x units: one to use as your hot storage, one as a cold backup and mail the other one to your grandma to keep offsite
Would rather wait to get a <$500 WD elements drive on Amazon… Although could be tempted by this depending what's inside…
No you wouldn't as can't shuck the WD internal drives due to the pin issue. Plus Seagate are generally Enterprise level internal drives exo…
are the "pulls" from east digital reliable?
I don’t think anyone can give you an answer of value on this. Just get them and use redundant methods of storage.
I haven’t had any issues with my two. They are a little loud but apparently that’s normal.
The 18TB was less than this Yesterday I think. (around $400?)
But looks like they have put the price back up now.Why are external drives so much cheaper than the internal drives? Same drive without the enclosure and power supply should be cheaper.
How is this not USB-C - Gross.
Hah Seagate, excellent for those who enjoy the thrill of Russian roulette with their data, complete with bonus clicky ASMR before your files bid you farewell.
That's old seagate matey, like years ago yea were like that. Now WD is the issue LoL
Wrong. Check Backblaze for the worst. Hint: it's not WD
All gone
fyi. got two. they are IronWolf pro.
Mine has ST20000NE000 inside. DOM: 15SEP2024. It's previous gen IronWolf Pro with Mean Time Between Failures (MTBF, hours) of 1.2 million hours. The latest gen(NT001) has 2.5 million hours, which is the same as Exos line.
I remember my last 18tb was $280.