Relay Switches: 3x Aeotec Zigbee Pico $98, 5x Shelly Qubino Z-Wave 1 $176 + $10 Shipping ($0 with $199 Spend / C&C) @ SmartHome

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Relay Switches: 3x Aeotec Zigbee Pico $98, 5x Shelly Qubino Z-Wave 1 $176 + $10 Shipping ($0 with $199 Spend / C&C) @ SmartHome
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narbe on 27/11/2024 - 09:59 smarthome.com.au (185 clicks)
Last edited 27/11/2024 - 10:55 by 1 other user

I've been hunting smart home goods since my new house was built.
Decked out my whole house with Z-wave Gear and now intertwining with some Zigbee stuff.

The additional item in the buy X get 1 free is automatically added to cart.

Orders over $199 have free shipping, else it is a flat $10. There is also free click & collect.

This stuff is rock solid I've had 0 drop outs 6 months with smartthings edge drivers. (1 hub restart due to firmware update)

My use cases so far:

  • Multi-sensors all around the house for light automation (paired with relays on all lights, exhaust fan automation(bathroom humidity > 69%), presence notification (away from home)
  • Zigbee wireless controllers throughout - (bedside master control , garage door opener, automatic indoor/outdoor blinds/ curtain motors,living room dimmers) I use a mix of Philips/Aeotec

Future projects:

  • Zigbee watershut off for laundry/dishwasher/fridge basically all plumbing points in house
  • Philips hue outdoor lights tied into my smartthings edge
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Comments

  • XeKToReX on 27/11/2024 - 10:31
    +1

    Same deal for the Pico Dual switch also.

    https://www.smarthome.com.au/product/aeotec-zigbee-pico-dual…

  • didactw on 27/11/2024 - 10:34

    I'm trying to retrofit an apartment. Does it make sense to invest in Z-wave at this point or go all in on zigbee? I quite like the Aeotec Z-wave products, like I can't find a zigbee equivalent for the Multisensor 7. Looking at Home Assistant btw

    • AssociatedKyote @ SmartHome on 27/11/2024 - 10:44
      +1

      Using home assistant as your foundation is an excellent choice - this also allows you to mix and match technologies (provided you have the right protocol interface attached - ie. USB Z-Wave or Zigbee stick). The Aeotec MultiSensor 7 is awesome - you will not find a Zigbee model that comes close in terms of functionality and the ability to power via USB (really handy if you can swing it). Zigbee has come a long way as a protocol… it used to be mainly cheap junk - since Zigbee 3.0, it is improved significantly! But is still considered the cheaper option (nothing wrong with that, this is Ozbargains after all!) - Z-Wave is considered the more premium option I guess. As an example, a Zigbee chipset is around US .50 ~ .80 cents - a Z-Wave chipset is approx. US $6! Zigbee uses 2.4GHz to communicate, wheres Z-Wave use 921 MHz (far removed from the Wi-Fi spectrum). So my long answer can be summed up as horses for courses… Zigbee is a great (for the most part) cheap option, Z-Wave is an expensive (relatively) but arguably more reliable option. I hope this helps :)

    • salem on 27/11/2024 - 10:45

      My understanding is zwave standards are even more fragmented across global regions than ZigBee (which is mostly just a few vendor tweaks in some products), making prices generally higher. ZigBee is also likely going to give ground to Thread soon, too. Matter and Thread is what I'd be looking at if starting fresh today.

      My current house started with Alexa and wifi devices, but it's now mostly ZigBee and home assistant, with Alexa playing a supporting role.

      • AssociatedKyote @ SmartHome on 27/11/2024 - 10:54

        You are spot on… in terms of Z-Wave using different frequencies in different regions - the functionality usually remains the same though. Whereas Zigbee uses 2.4GHz everywhere. Agreed Matter is the future, but it still has a long way to go!

    • Smigit on 27/11/2024 - 11:25
      +1

      I started out with ZigBee for a bunch of low cost Aqara sensors and the like. Just recently purchased a ZWave dongle however due to better options for light switches.

      Personal view is to work out what devices you want in the home first and start there. If you can consolidate the initial devices on a single standard then bonus, but over time I don’t think it’s an issue branching out if you want to support classes of devices that are not well covered by a particular standard.

      If you use Home Assistant or a similar sort of hub solution, you can have the various devices acting in a consistent and interoperable manner still, so it all becomes pretty low risk. The ZigBee/Z-Wave adapters also won’t break the bank either.

    • narbe on 27/11/2024 - 12:09

      I use to think like this either one or the other , but throughout my journey you'll definitely be doing all.

      So z-wave controllers ie. hand remotes/switches aren't great , zigbee is better both in price and availability.
      Relays z-wave is rock solid and using 921 mhz which is less crowded.

      So pathway is I turn on my light with zigbee switch > smartthings > z wave relay light switch. (all of this happens instantly as its all done by local edge driver)

      Most important things is to think LOCAL rather than which technology. As they all mesh, having lots of both is the way to go.
      *I avoid wifi unless I have to and google/alexa. (my last resorts)

  • Jetpck on 27/11/2024 - 11:08

    What is the best way to get started with home automation? At the moment all I have with regards to automation are philips hue lights and tp link smart switches which I use to turn on pedestal fans.

    • AssociatedKyote @ SmartHome on 27/11/2024 - 11:13
      +1

      Home Assistant… hands down (as long as you are a little teach savvy and have time)

      • Jetpck on 27/11/2024 - 11:16

        Thanks for the response. Will home assistant, be limiting when the automation network get larger and complicated with lots of connected items? I am tech savvy and have time so that's not an issue. I don't want to jump on a simplistic item now if it is limiting in certain aspects.

        • XeKToReX on 27/11/2024 - 11:21
          +1

          Would suggest starting on a Mini PC instead of a Pi if you plan on creating a bigger system in the future, save you the hassle of migrating to a more powerful device.

          I run Z-Wave and Zigbee on my HA setup, plus dozens of other integrations including Frigate for CCTV on an i5 7500T, works amazingly.

          • Smigit on 27/11/2024 - 11:28

            @XeKToReX:

            Would suggest starting on a Mini PC instead of a Pi if you plan on creating a bigger system in the future

            Yeah this is a good option. Check past post for second hand mini PCs. Lots of HP/Lenovo options out there that are probably going to be in the $100-$150 price bracket that are very suitable. Might be a bit more than a Raspberry Pi, but not much, and the built in SSD these PCs have helps with reliability.

            • Jetpck on 27/11/2024 - 11:37

              @Smigit: Great. Thanks all.

            • didactw on 27/11/2024 - 13:06

              @Smigit: In terms of power usage, what's the best option - HA green, mini PC, Pi?

  • BOC14 on 27/11/2024 - 21:04

    @Kyote can you please provide information to back up the claim of SAA accreditation for the Aeotec devices (Pico Dual is most interesting to me)?

    I can't find anything from a bit of searching.

  • ntebis on 27/11/2024 - 21:10

    Just to verify, will these work with 2 way rocker switches?

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