Cheapest SUV on the market. Now with 10 years warranty.
MG ZS Excite Automatic MY24 from $20,990 Driveaway @ MG
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Bargainaholic on 01/11/2024 - 13:40 mgmotor.com.au (5331 clicks)
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@mskeggs: Good to know. However, it’s clear that the Canadian car industry heavily relies on the U.S. car industry.
Ahh well, time to ride my lobster to work
Yup, Trump will say "jump" and Dutton will say "how high?"
Good news if you're in the market for a Ford or GM though
Every time I've driven a hire MG though, the cars feel absolutely terrible. Definitely cheap and nasty, but are certainly cheap
For someone in the $20k bracket that's all they want/need. 10 year warranty means the car effectively can depreciate to zero in 10 years and it'll only cost $2k a year.
Plus rego, insurance, servicing and consumables.
Isn't that the same as when MG was still British owned?
Two social points for you.
Keep it up and you might be able to send money overseas.Made by workers who earn 10 percent of German workers without any protections. It’s not as simple as you make it out to be
without justification
the justification, especially in the case of Toyota, is: people keep buying them anyway
also the cheapest feeling and driving car on the market. worst car i ever drove (hire car)
I thought 'Excite' was a bit of an ambitious title.
I have had several as hire cars and they are truly awful. Cheap feeling, finnicky entertainment unit, and bordering on dangerously slow.
Exciting to see if you survive!
Was a passenger in an MG ZS ride-share vehicle in Thailand that had well over 200k km on the odometer. I found it perfectly comfortable - infinitely more comfortable than beat-up taxi's in Australia. Looked fine to me as well. Obviously there's a degree of getting what you pay for, but as long as it lasts and gets the job done….
I drove one and while the power was lacking in the base model, it was feature packed. This is the base spec, quite a few versions depending on what you require.
Got my popcorn ready. This shit is gonna get wild.
Throw one of these on the back window for the ultimate popcorn grab.
Interesting their ANCAP rating has gone down from 5 to 4 in the last couple of years.
What about their "AH, CRAP" rating?
what about it
ANCAP criteria has changed over the years
Unlike the ZST with their pilot system, this has no safety suite hence why they lost a point
ANCAP contains a lot of bollocks anyways. Only use it as a rough guide.
https://youtu.be/aQ2Imisb3s4"nooo don't follow the organisation relied upon by government & the insurance industry to provide advice on automotive safety, believe this random Youtuber instead".
LOL rightio mate.
If you watch the clip you might understand why.
To achieve 5 stars these days, you need a swathe of 'driver assist' systems.
There's little to no evaluation of the effectiveness of each manufacturer's driver assist systems by ANCAP - merely a checkbox (has system/ does not have system).
The implementation, effectiveness (therefore actual safety) of driver assist systems varies wildly between manufacturers.
@Ham Dragon: "No offence Sir Isaac Newton, but if your theory on gravity was more popular, I might start believing it".
—- First guy Newton tried to explain his theory to
Don't believe me then, go to the ANCAP website and read their systems evaluation guidelines. They aren't all that comprehensive, and prone to system misdetections / malfunctions etc. Also, manufacturers updating firmware to 're-tune' them after the ANCAP test is done on the car, aren't captured by retesting.
@Ham Dragon: There is a lot of industry criticism weather the technical gizmos are actually making cars safer.
eg. ANCAP doesn't test if the lane keep assist works effectively. It just ticks a box that it has it, pushing up or down star ratings when the priority should be crash test performance.
https://www.carexpert.com.au/opinion/ancap-has-lost-relevanc…
https://drive.com.au/news/mitsubishi-five-star-safety-compro…
https://www.carexpert.com.au/opinion/why-ancap-has-run-off-t…
https://www.drive.com.au/news/chery-says-brands-complain-ins…
https://www.carsguide.com.au/car-news/hidden-dangers-why-som…@happydude: OK 2 opinion pieces and a dude with a youtube channel say otherwise. I'm not defending ANCAP, only pointing out it's the current accepted standard & guide for layperson consumers on how to assess the (relative) safety of a vehicle. Not sure why people get so butthurt because a) I don't share the opinion that ANCAP is literally the devil and b) I don't have time or inclination to watch a 19 minute video with f**k all views…
@Ham Dragon: Little ironic to see you call out others for being bullhurt.. You got defensive the moment creditable information and citation was laid out in front of you.
@youfnc: Defensive? I commented "interesting their ANCAP rating changed" and got hit with a tidal wave of negativity and rants about ANCAP being flawed, so it was worth clarifying I don't have skin in the game, all I did was note that I wasn't defending it. Two of the "credible information and citation" literally have "opinion" in the URL…
@Ham Dragon: Nobody was negative. They responded to your comment with a video and further articles and you immediately got on the back foot. Would you rather people just ignore you?
John Cadogan is an ass but is hardly some random Youtuber. He's likely somewhat influential given he has 400k subscribers
ANCAP has become a laughing stock.
Requiring "assistance" packages that are more of a distraction than anything.
ANCAP now requires a lot of extra safety that in theory is good, but has been implemented poorly and they don't consider that…. BUT, the fundamentals of testing car crash worthiness is still there with ANCAP.
Active crash protection for occupants is always getting stricter and cars have become substantially safer in the last 10-15 years as a result of ANCAP / EUROCNAP etc etc. being around.
Sure if a car gets really good results in everything except by not having a driver attention monitoring system, that is BS, but if a car is fundamentally unsafe (and many cars don't come here because they would be shitcanned by ANCAP) it will show up in the ANCAP results and that is a massive NET benefit.
I suspect pressure will be pit onto ANCAP to eventually assess how well tech is implemented / how annoying it is to the driver because it doesn't function property.
Better buy than EVs and overpriced ICE cars from Japan and Europe!
have you driven one?
I tried the EV one which has a sad range.
Then spend more for longer range or buy PHEV with 2000 km range ;)
any bargain of explosive car insurance ?
https://www.news.com.au/technology/luxury-ev-explodes-into-f…They have ten year warranty which means you get a new one when the car explodes.
10 years !!!!
Shut up and take your moneyDon’t have to look far to see a bunch of people having issues with MG warranty
If you're alarmed at the rate of EV fires, you're going to be terrified at the rate petrol cars catch fire. https://www.drive.com.au/news/do-electric-cars-actually-pres…
it's the severity of the fires that are the issue (im pro EV and have used this exact comparison historically to push back on the electric fire fud - but there's definitely something to it from a severity perspective, just not frequency)
@Lawsuit: The bad fires, the impossible to extinguish thermal runaway ones, are extremely rare. "In Australia, there have only been six verified fires where the car went into thermal runaway, with EV FireSafe also investigating two further incidents involving a Volvo XC40 in New South Wales and Mazda CX-60 plug-in hybrid (PHEV) in Queensland."
@salem: yep, absolutely. they are edge case for sure - but a non-dismissible edge case/valid critique imho
@Lawsuit: …and the toxicity of the fires. i.e. death by poisoning. Ask a firefighter.
Also not anti-EV
explosive car insurance must be skyrocketing for diesel cars in the UK.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-6707799…
It's not better than any of those things.
Needs to be cheap because it is an objectively terrible car.
How long till the mainstream brands from Japan/Korea and Germany have to start dropping their prices?
they wont have to drop to these prices to these levels, id happily pay much more for a decent car
Or you know pay less and get more your money
Anko Car
Temu car
Smaller in real life than the product photo
Aus the dumping ground of asia
I for one am happy to be.
Don't diss Anko.
Regardless of your preference on certain brands countries of origin, this is good for consumers; competitions.
Soon to be available at Kmart
and in Woolworths as well.
What has been happening with car prices over the past few months is not good for anyone that bought a new car in the last year or so. Nor someone selling/trading-in their near new car. Resale value is sinking so fast. Plenty of room to drop more as China dumps more and more vehicles here.
Better to think of cars generally as instruments of utility, not investments.
What if its a European car that cost around 80k?
Even more so
Thinking about resale value means you are not sure if it's good choice (buy). Cars should last 10y, or as long as the warranty (again 10y in this case). Who can predict what happens in 10y? Everything that has hight resale "value" is usually overpriced (check iPhones ;)
Cars have always been a depreciation asset. The old saying the price drops by $10 as soon as you drive it off the lot is now coming back after a few years of covid shortages where prices went up briefly.
This is always how car values work. And people need to get used to it.
Why do new consumers have to proper up your asset?
Cars are not investments. Get the best deal you can.
Agree. MG doesnt care about brand protection or residual values. My MG4 bought last year is now down 15-20k in just one year and falling fast. Not buying them again. Going back to Japanese cars if I can palm this car off without losing my shorts.
Excite
Yeah, right
Here's + for your Excitement ;)
How come when the MG4 $30,990 deal got posted, the comments were overwhelmingly positive, but in this thread, there are many more negative comments about poor interior quality, comfort etc. Reliability of this ICE vs the MG4 EV aside, shouldn't both cars be similar on the inside?
The MG4 is a completely different car and much better.
That's good to know. My in-laws bought an MG4 the other week, the interior quality to me felt OK for the cheapest EV in Australia. I thought the ZS would be similar but I guess not.
This is from a different era of MG.
Hyundai Excel = MG ZS
Hyundai i30 = MG 4Like all brands, they get better over time, just pick from the right era.
Chinese EVs seem to have a better reputation for quality and reliability than their ICEs.
Is that outdated? I remember when the first Korean cars came here, and the quality control was not great.
Test drive them both back to back. Tell us how they both fare. Here a hint; the mg4 is a zippy driver focus driving car. Comfort and drivability beyond most cars.
MG4 won car of the year back in the days. This is a cheapo car with cheapo quality. at least the value prospect are equal.
Similar patterns with most Chinese cars. They usually have one model they build from the ground up and hire European designers for everything, including looks, tuning, driveability etc. They're very good and intended to win many awards to prop up the brand, e.g. BYD Seal, MG4. While the rest are just Chinese design and crap.
Not a good car but it is a good thing for consumers as they have the option of buying a brand new car with warranty for only a few grand more instead of paying ~$15k for a 12 year old 150k+ km neglected junk in the used market.
Looking forward for deals on non SUVs.
a. $32,990 driveaway price for the MG4 Excite 51 MY24 model without any options applied.
b. State-based driveaway price for the MG4 Excite 64 MY23 model without any options applied.
c. State-based driveaway price for the MG4 Essence 64 MY23 model without any options applied.
d. State-based driveaway price for the MG4 Long Range 77 MY23 model without any options applied.
e. State-based driveaway price for the MG4 XPOWER MY23 model without any options applied.
f. State-based driveaway price for the MG ZS EV Excite MY23 model without any options applied
g. State-based driveaway price for the MG ZS EV Essence MY23 model without any options applied.
h. State-based driveaway price for the MG ZS EV Essence Long Range MY23 model without any options applied.
i. $22,990 is the driveaway price for the All-New MG3 Excite MY24.5 model without any options applied.
j. $24,990 is the driveaway price for the All-New MG3 Essence MY24.5 model without any options applied.
k. $28,990 is the driveaway price for the All-New MG3 Hybrid+ Excite MY24.5 model without any options applied.
l. $30,990 is the driveaway price for the All-New MG3 Hybrid+ Essence MY24.5 model without any options applied.
m. $24,990 is the driveaway price for the MG5 Vibe MY24 model without any options applied.
n. $28,990 is the driveaway price for the MG5 Essence MY24 model without any options applied.
o. $19,990 is the driveaway price for the MG3 Auto Core MY24 model without any options applied.
p. $20,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZS Excite MY24 model without any options applied.
q. $24,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Core MY24 model without any options applied.
r. $25,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Vibe MY24 model without any options applied.
s. $27,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Excite MY23 model without any options applied.
t. $29,990 is the driveaway price for the MG ZST Essence MY23 model without any options applied.
u. $28,990 is the driveaway price for the MG HS Vibe MY24 model without any options applied.
v. $30,990 is the driveaway price for the MG HS Excite MY24 model without any options applied.
w. $34,990 is the driveaway price for the MG HS Plus EV Excite MY22 model without any options applied.
x. $37,990 is the driveaway price for the MG HS Plus EV Essence MY22 model without any options applied.
y. $34,990 is the driveaway price for the All-New MG HS Vibe MY24.5 model without any options applied.
z. $37,990 is the driveaway price for the All-New MG HS Excite MY24.5 model without any options applied.
aa. $40,990 is the driveaway price for the All-New MG HS Essence MY24.5 model without any options applied.
Mum bought one recently.
Cheapest brand new car you can get. And with a 10yr warranty you can't go wrong. Has no power and as said above the entertainment/menu system is not as intuitive as it could be, but it feels and sounds well built. Doors close with a nice thud, creature comforts aren't too plasticy.
Not as refined as say a Hyundai or Mazda… and certainly no where near euro levels, but perfectly fine for the price. $20k brand new folks… built to a price and a very reasonable proposition for a cheap city runabout or first car.
To be honest these are truly shit with the build quality of an ice cream cartons and dangerously under-powered actually under - everything BUT
$20,00 and a 10 year warranty cannot be touched.Mum's a pensioner, and just wanted a cheap brand new no fuss car. Didn't give two hoots about power delivery. Just something modern, easy to drive, clean, new etc.
As i said, I readily admit build quality isn't as good as established brands… but for the price point ($25k was absolute limit for a new car, at that price options are very limited), she's done well and is very happy with her new car.
Sure that sounds like a match - I think the value cannot be beaten
Good luck with the "10 years warranty"
This is true. The proof is when someone tries to claim warranty and given the run around.
Already happening for many owners of the previous MG3.
@MrSparkle: We looked at the MG3 (on runout for like $18-19k?).
Hard pass. They look, feel, and sounds like a car is that a decade old in tech- inside and out. Styling, interior, everything… OLD. The Excite now parked next to it in the dealership for $21k is a no brainer.
Completely different car in every measure.
Time will tell I guess.
But they are trying to get a foothold into this market… the last thing they would want to do is "Daewoo themselves" to failure. Remember the Lanos? Didn't back their product and soonafter everyone stopped buying them fullstop. The Hyundai Excel was a crap car, but they backed their product and hey presto… they are a legitimate force now in Australia.
what's the L per 100km do they get with city driving?
Cheapest brand new car you can get.
kinda wild that the cheapest car on the market is an SUV, not something like a Picanto, Swift or MG3.
These are crap. I've driven one. Make sure you test drive.
$2100 to rent per year and 10 year warranty
sounds like reasonable crap
Damn that is cheap! So why are used cars still so expensive compared to pre-covid?
To what extent does the 10-year warranty cover concerns over quality?
@taki: I don't disagree with economic competitiveness, but I can also see why the Canadians don't want half a million people unemployed in the short term.
There is every reason to believe Chinese labour advantages will be lesser in future, and having an industry able to take advantage then will be useful.
North American makers have old factories and high labour costs. In 15 years China will have old factories and higher labour costs and be more vulnerable to competition if any remains.