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Bargainaholic on 01/11/2024 - 13:40 mgmotor.com.au (4153 clicks)
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Last edited 01/11/2024 - 14:08 by 2 other users
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When hewhoknows replies to this top thread tomorrow he's going to be a long way down the page.
FTW?!
Fortunately, we have Chinese company, as the Germans and Japanese have overcharged Australians without justification.
Totally agree, hasn’t Toyota become entitled
Sky high prices for the "king of mediocrity" these days. Only suckers buy Toyotas. Plenty of cheaper alternatives that are just as reliable.
Easy on the R word haha.
You make your money back when selling. My landcruiser is worth 10k more now that when I bought ot 10 years ago. But I see your point if you are buying the cheapest car they make.
Camery entry level is more than $40k now
Toyota still have some good cars around - just that we can’t buy then here unless we import them privately, and you would probably buy something else once you figured out how much they cost.
Someone has to pay for the plethora of Toyota ads on the TV…..not to mention AFL sponsorship.
That someone being the general public.
I walk by Toyota dealers and see the sticker price for what looks like a Corrola with a design that's a decade old and just laugh
With quality, do you mean the 'western' companies that have their cars built in china also?
Then tell me my does those rich Chinese are driving BMW or Merc or even Tesla? don't believe me? check it out on your street.
Then tell me my does those rich Chinese are driving BMW or Merc or even Tesla?
Because they are rich? This is a cheap car.
@MauTauAja: Not living in that kind of street. But hey, you do you and ban everything Chinese….oh wait
@MauTauAja: putting Tesla quality with the likes of BMW and Merc is an insult to the Germans. Our Model Y has started creaking and rattling after 3months.
@Creamsoda: true. my uber driver yesterday gave his tesla back due to the doors being paper thin and everything underneath held together by cable ties but I get where Mau was coming from. Even Chinese with a clue don't buy Chinese stuff. only the cheapskates and chinabots upstroke each other on the pro-commie slave labour tip. go ahead and downvote. it means as much to me as quality and safety does to you. less that the coins u hoard. btw tesla IS chinese crap made by a half chinese monkeyboy with no clue
China = Best Value for Money ~ Quality of Life. UBS engineers concluded BYD Seal is top engineering, 15% better value than Tesla & 30% better than expensive to maintain EU cars
no need to bring tesla in the frame
copied tech can never displace genuine innovation wait till next tesla ensures chinese cant steal core patents.
yes go ahead downvote me but truth cant be ignored or hidden.
No please explain it in detail so I can take notes.
Jeep, VW, Ford all seem to of forgotten.
MG is an SAIC company, and 100% government owned in China. Rival car makers are accusing the government of heavily subsidizing vehicle prices, hence the super cheap vehicles like this $21k drive away soft SUV.
VW's sales have collapsed in China and the company is asking German workers to take a 10% pay cut, as well as factory closures across Europe. Other car makers heavily dependent on the Chinese market are also in trouble.
Is that bad for us consumers?
No, unless you work for VW & similar slow movers ;)
In the short term, no. It's excellent for consumers. Brand new cars at bargain prices.
In the long term? Unknown. If it leads to legacy brands collapsing and leaving Australia then we'll get less choice in the long term. We don't have a car industry to protect, so it's unlikely we'll see punitive tariffs like those in the USA and proposed tariffs in the EU.
Competition means companies compete for customers with better products, higher quality and lower price.
Rigged competition on the other hand… you tell me? Who's laughing till the end?Only Australian consumers
Yes in the long run because it's not a level playing field.
Do you really want all of the cars in Australia to be owned by Chinese companies? History tells us what would happen if this came to pass. Prices would get jacked up, quality goes down, because what else are you going to buy?
Meanwhile, Europe is blocking Chinese cars to protect their own markets, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't feel sorry for VW.
In a free market, products get sold based on what they are worth. We need more of that in Australia - I'm tired of paying hugely elevated prices to companies that record record profits year-on-year. Great to see Chinese companies disrupt.Taxing Chinese built cars import duties, not blocking them. China is building factories in Europe, which will be free of import duties
@zoner: Taxing them to the point where nobody would buy them. Same outcome. They've done the same with plenty of other products. The end-consumer is the one who loses. Good thing we don't have a car industry in Australia anymore, or chances are we'd be in the same boat.
Is it really a free market though if the Chinese government (SAIC) is subsidising this?
on the other hand..Is it hypocritical for Western automakers to criticize Chinese subsidies when so many of them received bailouts, tax incentives, and subsidies over the years?
Hmmm
@rawm: It's normal for Socialist systems to help each other. Isn't that basic Human Ethics? Hypocrite West wants to Capitalise profits & Socialise losses :( customer pay - I prefer China's free market ;)
@taki: Yeah, if you look at the reality of things, Western countries aren't all that free except for those with money or connections.
@rawm: I for one am here for dumping of cars on Australia.
The europeans have been overcharging for shit for too long.
@rawm: Agree about the subsidising, but as you pointed out, which country doesn't do this? Look at how the US massively subsidised their car industries to keep them afloat when times were tough. They just print more money - it's all artificial. Same thing happened in Australia.
The first step is to transfer all your money from the big 4 banks and deposit to your nearest Bank of China
Should consumers care about who pays a portion of the car that otherwise they are supposed to pay? Thank you Chinese government. Lol
Just like many industries, if the subsidy results in competition leaving the market permanently, then prices rise later forever.
A huge range of examples in Australia from supermarkets to banks to airlines to telcos.@mskeggs: That's valid when "protecting" local industries from free market. Chine competes in the world with many companies. If they bring better value why would we care? If businesses/people save on cars we can invest the money on other productivity. If you save on un-iPhone you can have better time/holiday. Simple economics ;)
@taki: I generally agree, but if Chinese makers are able to drive competition out globally - which seems possible as both some American and European makers look shaky, the companies left standing will be left with fewer reasons to be competitive.
Do you think Boeing and Airbus are unhappy if the average cost of planes rises?
People talk about China subsidising their car manufacturers as if no other countries do it - they all do!
America literally bailed out their car industry during the GFC to the tune of billions, and they still, for the most part, produce overpriced rubbish.
this will change when trump wins. He will protect local
@ak hunter: Yes, Make Australia Better Again if we stop being their puppets ;) BRICS (9+13++) will solve his phantasies
@ak hunter: Lol trump only cares about himself. He's motivation to becomming president is to excuse himself and stay out of jail.
@lplau: Unfortunately, the more you attack trump, the more his supporters support him. Victim mentality is common in fragile masculinity.
VW has collapsed because Germany stopped importing cheap RU gas and their industry crashed as a result - nothing to do with China
also add VW has INCREASED their prices while others have lowered them and you get to where they are now.MG was caned when they were a UK company for churning out mediocrity towards the end of their lifespan. Good to see nothing has changed, same crap, just cheaper now.
China is not mediocre UK. They learn fast how to produce better than even Japan ;)
Nice one
VW's sales have collapsed in China
Oh so selling VWs in Australia at luxury car prices isn't propping them up? What a shame.
Cooldog's post history is interesting. Basically all his posts are pro-China propaganda.
wow you weren't kidding
I guess that is what makes them cool to the CCP.
Social credit farming…
They exist… Eg, People who are "sponsored" to post pro China stuff. On the other hand, there seems to be people who are paid/make their living posting anti China stuff as well.
Wait for Peter Dutton to take over the PM role and charge the Chinese cars on 100% tariff.
Protecting the non-existent AU industry? We only sell rocks, lobsters & wine (~ opium wars ;)
Canada has a non-existent CA car industry as well.
They just followed the master.
PD will do the same.
@salin: Canada makes a heap of vehicles in Ontario. One of the biggest employers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automotive_industry_in_Canad…@mskeggs: Canada mostly assembles cars which China can do much cheaper. If they tariff the better value cars, they will be left with inferior products & their businesses/people will suffer. Just like the US in the longer term.
@taki: I don't disagree with economic competitiveness, but I can also see why the Canadians don't want half a million people unemployed in the short term.
There is every reason to believe Chinese labour advantages will be lesser in future, and having an industry able to take advantage then will be useful.
North American makers have old factories and high labour costs. In 15 years China will have old factories and higher labour costs and be more vulnerable to competition if any remains.
@mskeggs: Good to know. However, it’s clear that the Canadian car industry heavily relies on the U.S. car industry.
Every time I've driven a hire MG though, the cars feel absolutely terrible. Definitely cheap and nasty, but are certainly cheap
For someone in the $20k bracket that's all they want/need. 10 year warranty means the car effectively can depreciate to zero in 10 years and it'll only cost $2k a year.
Plus rego, insurance, servicing and consumables.
Two social points for you.
Keep it up and you might be able to send money overseas.Made by workers who earn 10 percent of German workers without any protections. It’s not as simple as you make it out to be
without justification
the justification, especially in the case of Toyota, is: people keep buying them anyway
also the cheapest feeling and driving car on the market. worst car i ever drove (hire car)
I thought 'Excite' was a bit of an ambitious title.
I have had several as hire cars and they are truly awful. Cheap feeling, finnicky entertainment unit, and bordering on dangerously slow.
Exciting to see if you survive!
Was a passenger in an MG ZS ride-share vehicle in Thailand that had well over 200k km on the odometer. I found it perfectly comfortable - infinitely more comfortable than beat-up taxi's in Australia. Looked fine to me as well. Obviously there's a degree of getting what you pay for, but as long as it lasts and gets the job done….
WTH