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Bargainaholic on 01/11/2024 - 13:40 mgmotor.com.au (14215 clicks)
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When hewhoknows replies to this top thread tomorrow he's going to be a long way down the page.
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FTW?!
Fortunately, we have Chinese company, as the Germans and Japanese have overcharged Australians without justification.
Totally agree, hasn’t Toyota become entitled
Sky high prices for the "king of mediocrity" these days. Only suckers buy Toyotas. Plenty of cheaper alternatives that are just as reliable.
Easy on the R word haha.
You make your money back when selling. My landcruiser is worth 10k more now that when I bought ot 10 years ago. But I see your point if you are buying the cheapest car they make.
@feisty: True, understand that pov however I like to keep my cars for 20 years so resale doesn't come into it.
@nismoau: Not sure whats to like about driving the same ol sh1tbox for 20 years. It's just shiny metal, no need to marry it.
@t_c: Environmental and cost perspectives. I like to minimize throwaway society stuff wherever possible. Most things can be repaired. Also maximizes you initial $ outlay, of course.
If you look after it, it won't be a shitbox either.
@nismoau: Have you also considered the impact it has on the next future owners, who may be less fortunate, and by you holding on to your car longer artificially inflates the used car market?
@feisty: I would be selling your toyota now because you'll get 60% less this time next year.
People are waking up and don't want nothing inside a car anymore. They've conned Australians into thinking they're the only company who can make cars and it's simply not true.
Camery entry level is more than $40k now
@RichardF89: Past: No money, buy Toyota
Now: No money to buy Toyota.It’s a cult or just stupid to buy an out dated shitbox brand with that much money.
Toyota still have some good cars around - just that we can’t buy then here unless we import them privately, and you would probably buy something else once you figured out how much they cost.
Toyota still have some good cars around - just that we can’t buy then here unless we import them privately, and you would probably buy something else once you figured out how much they cost.
import which toyota models that are good?
how to import privately?
how much would be saved import vs buying it here?
They are still the best, but they have become too expensive
Someone has to pay for the plethora of Toyota ads on the TV…..not to mention AFL sponsorship.
That someone being the general public.
I walk by Toyota dealers and see the sticker price for what looks like a Corrola with a design that's a decade old and just laugh
and whats so funny about that?
The Corolla is actually a really well engineered vehicle and I like the design. Only car in the segment to have double wishbone suspension. The CVT also has a physical 1st gear, and that Dynamic Force engine is very punchy.
If you don't like it you could always spend a bit more on the GR Corolla which is actually really good looking. But you'd probably laugh hysterically still?
@dukeGR4: "GR Corolla" is still a Corolla. It looks the same, but the price is $70k 🤣🤣. Now, you'd really have to be a stupid person to spend that money on that car. Just Chuck what you can get for $70k, and funny forget that speed limits are exactly the same for everyone and for every car. That's more expensive than a Tesla, btw 🤣🤣
@mrau: it's not targeted at NPCs like you mate. it's for people with a passion for driving, so definitely not you.
heaps of fun to be had doing just the speed limit.
you can also take it to motorkhana and track days too :)
But for $70k, my money's on the FL5 Type R tho.
@mrau: The GR Corolla is a homolgated rally car, meaning that they spent far more time and money making it tough and capable, each car they sell is losing them money. They're a limited production run, and many owners-who-think-they're-rally-drivers will wrap them around trees or end up in a ditch (more true in the UK than here, where "fun" roads within the speedlimits are more common. This is what makes them a good buy, they will be rare vehicles in the future, well engineered, and stay high value.
Good luck getting literally $1 for an MG in 10 years time… I bet you the GR is still worth $50k if it's been kept well.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/toyota-gr-coro…
@mrau: The GR Corolla and Yaris are for people that actually want to use them as part time rally cars, not people driving to the office…
You can laugh but they sell and if you look after them they last. How many current chinese cars still be on the road in 20 years time? But i suppose lots of people dont worry about a throw away society.
@2esc: But should your 20 year old Camry be on the road? Is it safe? Does it meet CURRENT safety standards? Would an owner who's obviously price conscious really been taking care of the car?
The answer is No.
@[Deactivated]: The biggest problem is older cars just don't get through roadworthies anymore, and that won't get better. A mechanic was telling me that once it hits about 10yrs you start to get problems with windscreen clarity and all sorts. Throwaway cars.
But only a problem if you are selling of course.@paullovesbargains: "Windscreen clarity" is this real or a joke for example like talking about blinker fluid?
@Springfield: Your windscreen has to be very close to perfect to pass a roadworthy - always assume you'll need to replace the windscreen to get an older car through, because they almost always have a few dings…
Huh, the current model Corolla is great
Far out all Toyota have to do is make an EV Corolla and they will be rolling in it but they've been one of the most resistant out of them all…
With quality, do you mean the 'western' companies that have their cars built in china also?
Then tell me my does those rich Chinese are driving BMW or Merc or even Tesla?
Because they are rich? This is a cheap car.
@MauTauAja: Not living in that kind of street. But hey, you do you and ban everything Chinese….oh wait
@MauTauAja: putting Tesla quality with the likes of BMW and Merc is an insult to the Germans. Our Model Y has started creaking and rattling after 3months.
@Creamsoda: Mercedes is known for creaking too! Lots of cheap plastics, especially the centre console.
BMW and Audi on the other hand have really good interior quality.
@Creamsoda: A chosen Merc was making cracking noises even during a test drive …
Reality check: "German" quality is long long gone.
@Creamsoda: Yeah I was just reading how Tesla is THE least reliable car brands there is… https://insideevs.com/news/731559/tesla-least-reliable-used-…
Look at the quality that has dropped off with these western brands since moving to China. Look at the car reviewers regarding this.
China = Best Value for Money ~ Quality of Life. UBS engineers concluded BYD Seal is top engineering, 15% better value than Tesla & 30% better than expensive to maintain EU cars
@jetabe: Okay it's no exactly the truth you spilling out like the rest of the 1.6 billion funded reporting but I must say you are at par with the falun Gong supporters 😂 Plus your statement it's the opposite, truth can be ignored, twisted, hidden and manipulated. I don't know what world you live in with so much existing issues in the world which are turned into a blindeye.
I don't think you understand how tech and innovation evolve.
Patents only slow down innovation, why do you think our progression of technology has so many variants with minimal upgrade? Because the capitalist have realised they don't need to make big upgrades where they can make more money.
The problem with your statement is that they don't need to. I don't think you understand Tesla business model even. Tesla prefer to have competition with the Chinese ev makers that is using his car Patents. That's the fastest way to boost product production, innovation and consumer adaptation. Elon just want to boost innovation and tech speeds faster so his dream of building a colony in Mars is fruitful in his lifetime. He knows at the current speed, his dream of even landing human in Mars is 0%.
I respect Elon for someone who can make his dreams into reality, while mine on mobile suit gundam can always be on the fiction shelf in an eternity.
In 2014, Tesla announced that it would not initiate patent lawsuits against anyone who wants to use its technology in good faith. This policy is intended to encourage the development of a common platform for electric vehicles.
How do you think Japan, Korea and taiwan grow at the beginning? It's the same, they have to first copy then innovate 2nd. Japan and Korea had a head start of 75 years give or take to be where it is today. China has done it in 45 years…which is crazy if you think about it. Copy or not, the fact that the country has passed most of the copy stage in most fields ( USA is aware of this and realised the speed of research and tech has way surpassed their country that's why the sanction of chips to stop or handicapped their progress until they can't…. ).
Based on my perception on what is going to happen if you get to live till 2050 that's considering USA don't plan to start a war with China. China will be the world's biggest economy and have the most
1) patent registration
2) product innovation
3) advance techsBeyond 2100 the top developing nation's would be Africa. I don't think I can live to see that but
I would say Africa where it all started or maybe India if they can solve their division and women issues. Who knows maybe they will have more Indian presidents in western country in the coming years. ( why built a new when you can conquer existing ones 🤣)Shessh off topic over an ev car topic 😱
OK…. Back to ⚽Blue lock! ⚽ 🌀Lockon! 🌀PS I didn't down vote 😐
@luffyex2010: you are probably the rarest of people who can talk sense and convince with valid and sensible points.
i respect everything you said didn't know Elon encouraged anyone use patents.
i am all for China to be biggest economy with max patents!
oh how people behave online these days keyword down vote and it happened above.
teslas suck and the BYD seal is a great vehicle, but that's totally irrelevant as to whether the MG ZS is a good car or not.
@jrowls: If you go for the ZS EV over the petrol motor, you are going a long way to insulating yourself from any mechanical issues. On top of that you will save in servicing and fuel. I'd buy the oldest second hand ZS EV I can find before putting down 20k for this car
Jeep, VW, Ford all seem to of forgotten.
MG is an SAIC company, and 100% government owned in China. Rival car makers are accusing the government of heavily subsidizing vehicle prices, hence the super cheap vehicles like this $21k drive away soft SUV.
VW's sales have collapsed in China and the company is asking German workers to take a 10% pay cut, as well as factory closures across Europe. Other car makers heavily dependent on the Chinese market are also in trouble.
Is that bad for us consumers?
No, unless you work for VW & similar slow movers ;)
In the short term, no. It's excellent for consumers. Brand new cars at bargain prices.
In the long term? Unknown. If it leads to legacy brands collapsing and leaving Australia then we'll get less choice in the long term. We don't have a car industry to protect, so it's unlikely we'll see punitive tariffs like those in the USA and proposed tariffs in the EU.
Competition means companies compete for customers with better products, higher quality and lower price.
Rigged competition on the other hand… you tell me? Who's laughing till the end?Yes in the long run because it's not a level playing field.
Do you really want all of the cars in Australia to be owned by Chinese companies? History tells us what would happen if this came to pass. Prices would get jacked up, quality goes down, because what else are you going to buy?
@coffeeinmyveins: If you look at Chinese market, the main reason that EV prices keeps declining is cut throat competition. And The competition is between Chinese EV companies. You figure out how this applies even if the extremely unlikely scenario that "all of the cars in Australia to be owned by Chinese companies".
Meanwhile, Europe is blocking Chinese cars to protect their own markets, so you'll have to excuse me if I don't feel sorry for VW.
In a free market, products get sold based on what they are worth. We need more of that in Australia - I'm tired of paying hugely elevated prices to companies that record record profits year-on-year. Great to see Chinese companies disrupt.Taxing Chinese built cars import duties, not blocking them. China is building factories in Europe, which will be free of import duties
@zoner: Taxing them to the point where nobody would buy them. Same outcome. They've done the same with plenty of other products. The end-consumer is the one who loses. Good thing we don't have a car industry in Australia anymore, or chances are we'd be in the same boat.
Is it really a free market though if the Chinese government (SAIC) is subsidising this?
on the other hand..Is it hypocritical for Western automakers to criticize Chinese subsidies when so many of them received bailouts, tax incentives, and subsidies over the years?
Hmmm
@rawm: It's normal for Socialist systems to help each other. Isn't that basic Human Ethics? Hypocrite West wants to Capitalise profits & Socialise losses :( customer pay - I prefer China's free market ;)
@taki: Yeah, if you look at the reality of things, Western countries aren't all that free except for those with money or connections.
@rawm: I for one am here for dumping of cars on Australia.
The europeans have been overcharging for shit for too long.
@rawm: Agree about the subsidising, but as you pointed out, which country doesn't do this? Look at how the US massively subsidised their car industries to keep them afloat when times were tough. They just print more money - it's all artificial. Same thing happened in Australia.
WTH