[Pre Order] Apple iMac 24" M4 from $1842.50 (8-C CPU/GPU, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD) Delivered @ Apple On Campus (e.g. Aust Ed Union)

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[Pre Order] Apple iMac 24" M4 from $1842.50 (8-C CPU/GPU, 16GB RAM, 256GB SSD) Delivered @ Apple On Campus (e.g. Aust Ed Union)
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Kazusa on 29/10/2024 - 06:45 apple.com (4310 clicks)
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With the new Mac’s coming out this week with 16g min ram it’s a good time to remind everyone Apple aoc is the cheapest place to buy (they don’t check for student id), will probably update this post with all the new launches throughout the week

Apple iMac M4, 24" screen

  • 8-Core CPU, 8-Core GPU, 16GB Unified Memory, 256GB Storage — $1842.50
  • 10-Core CPU, 10-Core GPU, 16GB Unified Memory, 256GB Storage — $2159.30
  • 10-Core CPU, 10-Core GPU, 16GB Unified Memory, 512GB Storage — $2447.50
  • 10-Core CPU, 10-Core GPU, 24GB Unified Memory, 512GB Storage — $2734.60

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  • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 06:55
    +31

    Maybe 2026 we’ll see 512 SSDs in the base model.

    • HolyCr4p on 29/10/2024 - 08:20
      +6

      nah will be 256g

      • RedHab on 29/10/2024 - 11:36
        +2

        256GB model is to pull you in and price anchor the medium model you have to buy.

        Still, one has to admire Apple's pricing:
        The price difference between the two 16GB 10 core models is $300. That is a lot for 256GB of SSD space, 10x the price of a 256GB NVMe SSD on Amazon.

    • entropysbane on 29/10/2024 - 13:46

      2032

    • Daabido on 29/10/2024 - 21:31

      I have worked out Apple's RAM/SSD strategy. Only when the larger GB becomes cheaper or more readily available for Apple to buy than the obsolete RAM/SSD will they "increase" the specs.

      That is probably why they stopped offering 128GB storage and the only reason they used that was because it became cheaper than the hard drives that used to hamstring the original iMacs for the best part of a decade. There will always be another price point they can gouge upgraders for.

  • The Almighty Dollar on 29/10/2024 - 06:58

    Can storage be manually added or do I have to run this off an external drive if I want to avoid paying $1000 for 2tb?

    • Kazusa on 29/10/2024 - 07:00
      +15

      External drive unless you get nand chips and a soldering iron xd

      • Daabido on 29/10/2024 - 07:14
        +57

        I don't care for rap music.

      • chrism238 on 29/10/2024 - 07:16
        +29

        Because it obviously 'kills' the advantage of an all-in-one, requiring extra cables, mains power, not wanting the home 'filled' with tech devices, ….., all for just 512GB or 1TB. A permanently attached 1TB Samsung T7, or similar, is just great for TimeMachine.
        Pretty obvious, really.

          • chrism238 on 29/10/2024 - 07:55
            +15

            @jasonxc:

            A NAS can have far more storage than just 1TB

            My point is that, if you only need an extra 512GB or 1TB, you don't need a NAS.

            A permanently attached 1TB external SSD is an extra cable…

            Yes, but my external SSD is taped to the back of my all-in-one.

            But thanks for dismissing my 45+ years' of computing experience with your inability to comprehend other use-cases.

              • chrism238 on 29/10/2024 - 08:13
                +25

                @jasonxc: Geez.
                A NAS is flexible for those who need one. A NAS is unnecessary for others who don't need one.
                The world is not filled with clones of you. Get over it.

          • lovebargain87 on 29/10/2024 - 15:57

            @jasonxc: That's extra $$$ ! And you are not the Supermodel Mac user that we all admire

      • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 07:29
        +1

        I have a Proxmox box I use as a NAS.

        But there’s somethings I want locally for speed and reliability. eg.

        1) I don’t want to be editing my Photos library only for the network to drop and the Photos library becomes corrupt.
        2) Software development.

        • jasonxc on 29/10/2024 - 07:50
          -8

          I don’t want to be editing my Photos library only for the network to drop and the Photos library becomes corrupt.

          You think the network dropping out will somehow corrupt your "Photos library"?

          um… lol

          • dtpearson on 29/10/2024 - 08:06
            +4

            @jasonxc: Yes. Unreliable connections, packet loss, and transmission errors can disrupt the delivery of data packets, leading to errors in the received data.

            um…lol

            • jasonxc on 29/10/2024 - 08:10
              -4

              @dtpearson: Guess what? USB connections are also susceptible to data loss on a similar scale.

              But yeah all those enterprises transferring terabytes of mission critical data by the hour should really know better. Don't they realize they could lose data to packet loss?! Clearly they would be much better off running a collection of external hard drives!

              • smartazz104 on 29/10/2024 - 09:16
                +1

                @jasonxc:

                But yeah all those enterprises transferring terabytes of mission critical data by the hour should really know better

                You're comparing this to a typical home setup?

              • skittlebrau on 29/10/2024 - 09:47

                @jasonxc: A typical home user with a NAS isn't using synchronous writes to media with power-loss protection via battery backed RAID or capacitors.

              • dtpearson on 29/10/2024 - 10:40
                +1

                @jasonxc:

                Guess what? USB connections are also susceptible to data loss on a similar scale.

                What? Similar scale. Nope.

              • Goremans on 29/10/2024 - 14:30

                @jasonxc: Why do you care this much…? You're trying turn an either way works into - only this way works. If one is better, its down to personal preference and use case.

                The most obvious is a NAS cant be moved easily - for proper redundancy I sure you would advise others to also have an either offsite backup or at very least a hard drive thats easy to grab and go.

                The cost of setup of an ssd at the back of the screen is much less than a NAS set up.

                Then there are benifits of NAS, if you find yourself at someones house and want to show them photos, thats hard to do with the hard drive at home.

                Mac's suck anyway so the whole conversation is nul. (Or is that a personal preference… bahaha)

            • itsme56 on 29/10/2024 - 13:41

              @dtpearson: the TCP protocol, which is what NAS connections over SMB or NFS (examples) use, means packet loss is not possible. no packets can be lost becuase it requires an answer packet to confirm if everything arrived in-tact before moving on to the next packet.

              • GeneralSkunk on 30/10/2024 - 07:31

                @itsme56: True. But you wouldn’t want facts to get in the way of a good story here. Or you’ll end up with -15 votes like jasonxc.

                If I may add my opinion to this shitstorm: I thought the computing industry was all hellbent on cloud storage, NAS, wireless hard drives (internet connected), etc. It looks like Apple just follow (and drive) this movement. They give you enough storage, if you want more, then get one of the above solutions. I think this is what jasonxc is trying to say.

                • ihfree on 30/10/2024 - 11:01

                  @GeneralSkunk: Ozbargain is weird with storage suggestions - it would probably be fine if they'd phrased things a bit differently.

                  I use a base model MBA and rely on my NAS for local content. It works very well for me.

          • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 08:53
            +9

            @jasonxc:

            You think the network dropping out will somehow corrupt your "Photos library"?

            You have zero idea what you're talking about.

            Photos isn't flat files. It's database-like library. So yes, network dropping mid way through saving can corrupt it.

            USB connections are also susceptible to data loss on a similar scale.

            A USB connection has a single point of faliure.

            A NAS has 1) the network, 2) the SAMBA/NFS/AFP client, 3) the NAS OS, 4) The NAS hardware.

            There is nothing wrong with a NAS. But there's some critical things I want saved locally and there's somethings that would completely suck running from a NAS (like software development releated code and containers).

      • LennyT on 29/10/2024 - 17:59

        enjoying this thread. always funny to see how a person can only see one viewpoint and his point has to be the "correct" one.

  • dosada on 29/10/2024 - 07:17
    +28

    Wow. 16gb of ram. Apple has finally arrived in 2010

    • YoursTruly on 29/10/2024 - 08:26
      +2

      Their Time Machine is catching up…..to the times

      • RedHab on 29/10/2024 - 11:28
        +1

        but marketing the ghost of Steve Jobs' reality distortion field lives on…

      • beardelune on 29/10/2024 - 13:42

        Nah Time Machine is still a pain in the ass and kinda shitty

    • linkindan on 29/10/2024 - 08:33
      -3

      CPU: Up to 10 cores, including four performance cores and six efficiency cores
      GPU: 10-core GPU with hardware-accelerated ray tracing, dynamic caching, and mesh shading
      Neural Engine: 16-core Neural Engine that can perform up to 38 trillion operations per second (TOPS)
      Memory bandwidth: 120GB/s
      Unified memory: LPDDR5X unified memory that supports up to 128GB
      Transistors: 28 billion
      Architecture: ARMv9.2-A

    • smartazz104 on 29/10/2024 - 09:16
      -2

      Maybe they'll catchup to Windows and its unoptimized nature one day too.

  • Fancydancer on 29/10/2024 - 07:19
    +3

    Extra 10% off (approx) with DISCOUNTED Apple GCs.

  • cheapobargain on 29/10/2024 - 07:22
    +4

    In 2024, 16GB of RAM is perfect for opening exactly three Chrome tabs… but don’t push it
    /s

    • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 07:31

      but don’t push it

      You’re not the boss of me!

      • HolyCr4p on 29/10/2024 - 08:17
        -1

        that is what she said

    • Ryk on 29/10/2024 - 07:31
      +5

      Chrome on a mac, why would you?

      • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 07:33
        +3

        Because unfortunately it has the highest market share and therefore is what web developers focus most of their testing on.

        • TheThoughtFraud on 29/10/2024 - 07:50

          Safari is the new IE

        • smartazz104 on 29/10/2024 - 08:46
          +2

          Shame, Chrome is a POS.

        • skittlebrau on 29/10/2024 - 09:49
          +1

          Firefox or Safari for everything and then just use a Chromium-based browser for the sites which have problems.

    • idk12 on 29/10/2024 - 11:05
      -1

      Use a base model MacBook Pro with 8gb of ram for school work and always have 30 tabs open at once and it still runs so smoothly. It’s coz apple has better optimisation compared to windows and doesn’t need as much ram as shitty windows does.

      • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 11:08
        +5

        It's probably actually because it's paging the SSD and eventually your SSD will fail.

        There's magic going on.

        • idk12 on 29/10/2024 - 15:50
          -2

          Actually no, the ram that apples uses generally has faster speeds compared to windows and plus macOS is more optimised

          • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 16:28

            @idk12:

            ram that apples uses generally has faster speeds

            Cool. But that doesn't magically increase its size.

            I've used macs since the 90s. I love them. But that doesn't make them magic.

            • idk12 on 29/10/2024 - 16:34
              -1

              @PainToad: Never said it did, all I said was that the ram is more optimised for the operation system making it handle more at faster speeds

  • Maglia Nera on 29/10/2024 - 07:29
    +12

    what is this - RAM for ants ?

    • HolyCr4p on 29/10/2024 - 08:18
      +1

      RAM for kiddies watching youtube

    • scud70 on 29/10/2024 - 08:27
      +1

      what are you on about .. this is basically 32 gigabitz of windows RAM!

  • kungfuman on 29/10/2024 - 07:49
    +9

    Still no 27 inch model!!! Wtf Apple!

    • dts88 on 29/10/2024 - 08:12

      i'm still happy with my 2020 27"

    • dtpearson on 29/10/2024 - 08:14
      +2

      I still just don't get why they leave so much money on the table…. 27" was the biggest seller, and they just stopped selling it and never started ever again. Now instead of buying my staff a $3k 27" iMac, I buy a $1000 Mac mini and a $500 Dell screen (and then replace it every 3-4 years as the screens die, or lose pixels (any Mac mini with a solid state drive seems to last forever).

      It's like when they stopped development on Apple Aperture (and continued every other pro app) when Aperture was the highest $ grossing app on the Mac app store at the time, leaving every photographer in the financial clutches of Adobe……

      Its like there is some internal turf war and somebody says "We will not make that product as long as I work here" and they stick to it for no good reason.

      • roonie on 29/10/2024 - 08:56

        Which model Dell would you recommend?

        • dtpearson on 29/10/2024 - 09:48

          I always go for 4K as it's for business use, usually 27"-32". Moving to monitors with USBC connections as it will be the standard moving forward. They are regularly discounted down to $200-300ish.

      • kingburggg on 29/10/2024 - 13:38
        +1

        That's their business strategy, greedy company, all for money.
        If people buy iMac 27'', they will sell less 27" pure display. So they push you to buy iMac 24", then you may need to order additional 27" or 32" 5K display.

      • entropysbane on 29/10/2024 - 13:56

        The iMac 27 inch with the 5K screen was ludicrously good for the money. The price Apple charges nowadays for a studio display.
        But that meant it was probably Apple’s worst margin product.

        So it isn’t coming back anytime soon as Apple would rather sell you a 27 inch 5K studio display and a Mac mini to tape on the back. It might cost us a lot more, but we are doing it for the Apple margins.

        Or, we could go a Mac mini and a 4K dell ultrasharp with ports galore and probably the best you can do without going 5K. But that means we aren’t helping Tim Apple with his supply chain efficiencies and industry leading margins.

      • kungfuman on 29/10/2024 - 16:10

        I would say bad decisions by bad management at apple.

  • MELso on 29/10/2024 - 07:52
    +12

    Don't forget 20x Flybuys points on Apple gift cards…

    https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/872978

  • Captain Hindsight on 29/10/2024 - 07:54

    Thx. Could also be worth waiting for first jb etc 10% of iMac which would be even cheaper.

    • coxymla on 29/10/2024 - 11:05
      +1

      You're usually better off combining student pricing + 10% back on Apple GC.

  • M00Cow on 29/10/2024 - 08:08
    +3

    remind everyone Apple aoc is the cheapest place to buy

    It pays to look around. I was looking at a Macbook pro the other week and it was cheaper a numerous other stores, one was $150 cheaper then AES

  • ForkSnorter on 29/10/2024 - 08:27
    +11

    A Mac Mini ($1000) with a 27-inch 4K Dell USB-C monitor ($400 new, or $200-$300 secondhand) sh*ts on this iMac. Who the hell wants to spend > $2000 on a computer with a built-in 24-inch screen in 2024.

    Interested to see what the new Mac Mini brings to the table when it's announced.

    • Imposter on 29/10/2024 - 08:43
      +7

      If you think $400 Dell USB-C monitor the same as this screen, then yes

      • ForkSnorter on 29/10/2024 - 09:26

        24-inch vs 27-inch

        • srhardy on 29/10/2024 - 10:37

          Its not OLED, so anything and everything beats it!

          "The 4.5K resolution and 500 nits of brightness deliver crisp, clear details" is MARKETING SHITE with a straight face!

      • UberIsCool on 29/10/2024 - 11:30

        I use the same above but with 32inch 4k curved Dell, so nice. Can't wait to have desk space for two more and line them all up :)

      • RedHab on 29/10/2024 - 11:32

        Actually, in 2019 27" Dell and Mac panels were identical, made by the same factory in China.

      • entropysbane on 29/10/2024 - 14:00

        Yes, to get within cooee of the old 27 inch iMac while settling for 4K I would go the Dell U2723QE. But it is $800.

    • bangiebargie on 29/10/2024 - 08:56
      +1

      There's a strong aesthetic element here too — one plug for the entire machine, no further wires, and cute colours!

  • mailbox on 29/10/2024 - 08:41

    People give them heaps about the RAM but Apple optimizes it differently I'm pretty sure. I've seen a bunch of demos on them side by side and it's super quick

    • Murpha on 29/10/2024 - 08:56

      Planned obsolescence

      • AngryAlfred on 29/10/2024 - 09:12
        +6

        Yet my 2020 8gb M1 still runs like it's new 3 generations later and has no problem running things or bogging down. Must have been planned by the council

        • superroach on 29/10/2024 - 11:00
          +1

          Your M1 is being hamstrung by the 8gb, and is about to be hurt a fair bit by iOS 18 as they try to add ai features - you will likely find they'll try to word around it by sending things to the cloud as needed.

          • ihfree on 29/10/2024 - 13:20

            @superroach: How many useful features will it actually bring?

            Are there any killer applications which will make me go to 16gb.

            On the PC side, should I be worried about my Desktop? Is there a equivalent coming that is about to make a bunch of PCs obsolete due to lack of NPU or ram?

        • mailbox on 29/10/2024 - 11:31

          exactly, we just bought a tonne of M3s for a bunch of work including developer machines. Obviously there is a bit of bias from Apples techs but from what they showed us in their demos they seem to work fine crunching numbers and rendering big projects, and did a bunch of local AI…Happy for someone to prove me wrong though.

          • deadpoet on 29/10/2024 - 12:47
            +1

            @mailbox: Only 8GB of RAM for developer machines, surely not?

            • mailbox on 29/10/2024 - 13:37

              @deadpoet: exactly, we just bought a tonne of M3s for a bunch of work including developer machines. Obviously there is a bit of bias from Apples techs but from what they showed us in their demos they seem to work fine crunching numbers and rendering big projects, and did a bunch of local AI…Happy for someone to prove me wrong though.

              Im a space cadet, we have 18GB I was wrong.

  • lachlantula on 29/10/2024 - 08:57
    +5

    256gb ssd for almost 2 grand is absolutely diabolical

    • EitherWayUp on 29/10/2024 - 10:06

      Yes, let’s exclude everything else. We are solely paying $2K for a hard drive.

      • lachlantula on 29/10/2024 - 10:15
        +1

        that's one way to interpret what i said, lol

  • bob98 on 29/10/2024 - 09:19

    was looking at there $2200 monitor yesterday then seen these. damn there ugly compared to my fathers older imac 27

  • Yin8 on 29/10/2024 - 09:24

    Wow 16GB RAM, how generous!

  • Elijha on 29/10/2024 - 09:29

    Why does no one complain about the screen still being 24”

    • EitherWayUp on 29/10/2024 - 10:05

      Because 24 is a great size and the overall package is very aesthetically pleasing.

      • Elijha on 29/10/2024 - 10:43
        +2

        They sold a 27” with an amazing screen for years, I can imagine people wanting to upgrade for those feeling like a step down in usability.

    • superroach on 29/10/2024 - 11:01

      Eh it's fine - you can also plug in a big secondary screen as well if you want screen estate. As it is, you could fit more 24inch imacs on a desk.

  • musicinbed69 on 29/10/2024 - 09:29

    No wifi 7 :(

    • EitherWayUp on 29/10/2024 - 10:05
      +1

      You don’t have a wifi 7 router so why you mad?

      • PainToad on 29/10/2024 - 10:24

        How do you know what they have?

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