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[QLD] The Boys Ballet Project: Free Ballet Classes for Boys Aged 11-14 @ Queensland Ballet

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Free Ballet Classes for Boys with prior ballet experience. Must register and be accepted. It says registrations can be accepted throughout the program.

“ The Ballet Boys Project
Free ballet classes for boys aged 11 - 14
Queensland Ballet is taking the global decline of boys in ballet and dance very seriously and is committed to changing this downward trend and addressing what is potentially a sustainability issue for our artform.  As such, we are encouraging the dance and broader community to join this movement with us to ensure the tradition of ballet – although ever evolving, lives on with strong participation from male dancers. 

As the first part of The Ballet Boys Project, we are thrilled to offer free weekly classes to boys aged 11 – 14, commencing on Monday 8 July 2024 at the homes of Queensland Ballet (West End) and Queensland Ballet Academy (Kelvin Grove).

This initiative aims to remove barriers for boys wanting to take ballet classes by offering these boys-only classes at no cost, with no uniform requirements, and no audition required. 

This is a unique opportunity to bring together boys who are enjoying ballet in the community sector, sometimes as the only boy in their class.
Students will enjoy the following benefits: 
forging friendships with other boys who dance  
focusing on male-specific ballet technique  
classes and mentoring by leading professional male teachers  
building a support network of likeminded peers   
dancing in purpose-built, professional dance studios
enjoying a safe and encouraging environment  
being inspired by witnessing older boys and men pursuing their love of ballet in our facilities”

UPDATE this blew up in a way I really didn’t expect. I was thinking it would help 1 or 2 families in Bris with boys that might be interested in dance. I would still suggest getting in contact with Queensland Ballet if you think it might suit your son. Given it’s coming towards the end of the year it might be worth asking if they are running it again next year.

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  • +16

    When he was a boy, my son wanted to be a ballerina. I told him the male of the species is called a ballerino, but he couldn't be swayed

    • +4

      I saw there were 3 comments to this deal and wondered how many of them were sexist. At least one!

      There’s probably a lot of dads out there who need convinced to let their son do ballet too.

        • +19

          Tbh if you think "boys are not supposed to do ballet" then yea that's sexist.

      • +5

        Spent a lot of time trying to convince my son to go to dance school with his sisters. There were only three other boys and two of them were clearly interested in the same side. Meanwhile there were 400 fit girls…..

        The non gay boy? Ended up in Qld ballet.

        • -1

          Kudos. If I was that age and knowing this, I’d be dancing too! Nice way to meet plenty of girls. My son is young but I wouldn’t mind what he does when he’s a teenager.

          It’s funny how people get so tied up in stereotypes and ego. A hundred years ago, pink was for boys and blue for girls. At some stage it switched. Dancing of all sorts has always been big for men. In other cultures, what we think is feminine is common for males. Like ballet and gymnastics.

          There’s mention of AFL stars being what 99% of women want - this is objectively wrong by a country mile (based on women I know), and AFL stars are models of masculinity? No way they are.

          Anyway we could spend all night on this.

          • -1

            @Corgsta: What are your sources for "A hundred years ago, pink was for boys and blue for girls"? Was this exceptions? Was this the norm? How long did that trend last? What have been long term trends in colour/hue selections for boys/girl and men/women? Show a list of references for your statement please.

            Male gymnastics is not feminine. Male gymnastics are a mix of neutral and masculine (high strength) activities. Masculine examples being still rings and pommel horse. Female gymnastics are a mix of neutral and of feminine activities. Feminine floor apparatus include ribbon, ball, hoop. Examples of neutral style but gender specific apparatus are uneven bars for females but horizontal bar for males. Males doing gymnastics looks very different to females doing gymnastics. On the other hand males doing ballet looks feminine, despite having male specific roles. Trying to compare males in ballet to male gymnastics is a flawed proposition.

            • +1

              @g1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gendered_associations_of_pink_…

              [R]esearcher Marco Del Giudice commented on earlier claims about a supposed shift in pink–blue color associations or preferences sometime around the 1940s, from pink for boys and blue for girls before that period, to the opposite alignment afterward. He summarized his earlier work from 2012 which found "no evidence of either reversed or inconsistent usage prior to the 1940s".

              I first heard of the pink-blue reversal theory on QI, a television programme which often gets its facts wrong.

              • -4

                @Jack Scallywag:

                1. Wikipedia is a terrible source for any information.
                2. Further information on that wiki page suggests that it was a passing fad to have the colours reversed. And over long term there is no preference for pink for boys.

                So much of recent attempts to assign feminine things to males is a push with picking a lot of exceptions and trying to make them sound as if they have wide and long term basis.

                Your example and wiki page reference includes a lot of information that states that generally boys have no preference for feminine colours. Maybe stop trying to make it seems that as a population boys don't have preferences for boy things and not girl things? It’s disrespectful to both boys and girls.

                • @g1: About the pink-blue reversal theory:

                  Sorry, my initial comment was confusing. I started off intending to give a reference that supported the pink-blue reversal theory, as popularised on QI and elsewhere, as you requested.

                  But I found the Del Giudice counter argument instead. The paper is The Twentieth Century Reversal of Pink-Blue Gender Coding: A Scientific Urban Legend?.

                  The paper concludes: "[F]ar from being an established fact, the [pink-blue reversal theory] shows many warning signs of a scientific urban legend. Uncritical acceptance of the PBR may have hindered theoretical and empirical progress in this fascinating area of research".

                  About Wikipedia:

                  Wikipedia is a terrible source for any information.

                  What's your source for this? Here's a counter argument:

                  "For popular articles, Wikipedia’s online community of volunteers, administrators and bots ensure edits are based on reliable citations. Popular articles are reviewed thousands of times. Some media experts, such as Amy Bruckman, a professor at the Georgia Institute of Technology’s computing centre, argue that because of this painstaking process, a highly-edited article on Wikipedia might be the most reliable source of information ever created.

                  Traditional academic articles – the most common source of scientific evidence – are typically only peer-reviewed by up to three people and then never edited again."

                  Source: Students are told not to use Wikipedia for research. But it’s a trustworthy source

                  • -2

                    @Jack Scallywag: https://usingsources.fas.harvard.edu/what%E2%80%99s-wrong-wi…

                    Wikipedia is not reliable for academic research and/or references without thorough investigation. It is ok for getting ideas but it is not an authoritative source.

                    Internet is full of false information being propagated and taken as accurate. And there are theories that are 'scientific urban legend' pushing an ideology. Using those theories in discussion misleads people who do not check validity of claims, propagating false ideas.

                • @g1: Rugby league players wear pink?

                  • @BewareOfThe Dog: I did not write that male rugby players don't wear pink. I also did not write that female rugby players don't wear pink.
                    In fact, I am sure rugby players wear pink.

              • -3

                @Jack Scallywag: PS. I do love the downvotes against statements based in reality. And attempts to push non reality based ideology.

                As far as I am concerned boys can do ballet if they want.

                But why make up false statements and try and present marginal cases as broad truths when they are not?

                We have thousands of years of documented history showing what males tend to generally engage in. The modern ideology of minimising differences in body make up between sexes is a modern ideology. On average males are either physically stronger or have potential to be physically stronger than females. This is reflected in athletes. There is a reason that 100m sprinter has male and female categories. There is a reason that top level swimming splits males and females into separate races.

                So it is funny that people here downvote statements based in reality.

  • +1

    Ah, the ballet

    • +18

      Gonna go see the bear in the little car huh?

      • +9

        THAT'S ballet? I wanted the one where the chicks wail on each other!

        You mean foxy boxing?

        YES! THAT's what I wanted!

        (Had to slightly alter the quote to shoehorn this reference in)

    • +2

      While we were rescuing your husband, a lumberyard burned down

  • +22

    The 'with prior ballet experience' is gonna mean a lot of students won't actually benefit from this.

    If they want to combat the global decline, they need to actually start at the bottom instead of 'we're gonna pull from a tiny pool of existing students to make our jobs easier'.

    • +3

      They do kids ballet classes with a fee too, I guess this is to encourage interested boys to continue when they get a bit older and more likely to give it up. Queensland Ballet has a number of good programs but it’s very Brisbane centric unfortunately.

  • +30

    "We want to encourage more boys to take up ballet and dance"

    "By the way, you need prior experience in ballet and dance to join"

    • +11

      Just like applying to jobs:

      "Entry level X"

      "3-5 years experience required"

  • +6

    Here for the comments

    • +25

      There have always been male ballet dancers, let men who like ballet be men who like ballet. Men of all cultures have always been involved in dance. It’s almost as if men aren’t allowed to be men as they want to be men when I see comments like this.

      Men have distinct male parts in ballet, so ffs why don’t you let men be men.

      • +12

        Please tell me you don’t have a son 🤦‍♀️

          • +12

            @mustang87401: My son isn’t doing ballet, just likes the music, off his own bat, not mine.
            He does soccer, tennis and swimming at the moment. If he wants to do ballet I’ll support that. The only thing I probably wouldn’t support is boxing, for a male or female child due to the the risk of CTE. I’d also be wary or rugby or AFL for the same reason, but if it was their passion I’d support it and minimise risk.

            • @morse: When my daughter did ballet, there was a boy in her class. 5 years later i saw him, and he was wearing a rugby league outfit.

      • +4

        I’m not sure boys crying is such a bad thing.

        Suppressing emotions in the other hand….

        • +1

          And people keep asking why men have a higher self exit rate and keep comparing it to females like it's their fault.

    • +15

      Yeah! They should be wrestling each other in tights and chopping wood with their shirts off and chasing each other for a ball, then having a communal shower

      Like all straight real men do!

      • -8

        No one talked about wrestling in fact I myself never mentioned wrestling. Surfing, swimming, running, martial arts. Wrestling is a good one though. Ballet is for girls

        • +8

          No comment on the showers I see…

        • +1

          You mentioned wrestling in your comment to me earlier

    • I think plenty of men dance.

      Even manly ones.

      Perhaps even yourself have danced?

      • I did a lot of dancing in my time. I suspect while I thought I was awesome, particularly after a few rums, I was shit.

  • +13

    If I was a boy doing ballet, I’d do it for the ballerinas

  • +4

    ltjaris:
    So… a REAL man can't be into ballet? Geez.

    • -3

      No it’s not a sport if you want to be a real man. Martial arts or surfing is better than ballet. It’s bad for your feet anyway.

      • +5

        Bruce Lee was a dance champion. He held the Hong Kong Cha-Cha crown (really)

      • +8

        if you want to be a real man

        You are so out of touch. Defining a 'real man' by the sport he plays or his macho image is pathetic. You are gonna screw your kids up by pushing your agenda. Image is just image and is constrictive. You are saying you can be whatever you want, as long as it fits my rules of how you should look, walk talk and dress.

        • -7

          Trust me the only kids that are screwed up in the head that I see are by all the inner city wokies. Confused, soft and mentally unstable. 99% of girls look at AFL players and think wow so manly and strong, tough you name it. 99% of girls look at a male doing ballerina and think wow it sure looks nice but no way that guy is straight. Who will 99% of girls pick, the AFL players or the male ballerina? That’s right now move along.

          • +6

            @mustang87401: I think more than 1% of girls are lesbian

            • @linkindan: Ok let’s make it 99% of all straight girls since those are the ones you’d want to attract as a straight male.

              • +1

                @mustang87401: As a straight male, I really wanted a lesbian girlfriend when I was a teenager

          • +2

            @mustang87401: No-one trusts you.

            • @Eeples: Haha good to know. I don’t think anyone asked but thanks for sharing.

          • +5

            @mustang87401:

            Who will 99% of girls pick, the AFL players or the male ballerina?

            Maybe the bleached blond, heavy makeup and false eyelash trophy girls. Yeah the ones you see on TV shows like footballers wives!

            Girls with a sense of independence and intelligence don't really give a shit about things like what sport they play or how macho they think they are.

            Once again, you are putting yourself into a narrowly defined existence and sounds like you want the for your kids as well

          • +3

            @mustang87401:

            99% of girls look at AFL players and think wow so manly and strong, tough you name it.

            Wow, you think like a real girl. Which AFL player have you fancied the most?

          • +4

            @mustang87401:

            99% of girls look at AFL players and think wow so manly and strong, tough you name it.

            Lol that's proof you don't talk to any.

    • +12

      Ballet has, and has always had specifically male roles. Also women and girls can do martial arts. I really didn’t expect this from this post. My son has just been really into music written for ballet recently so was seeing what was out there, this isn’t in his age group but I thought it was a great thing for those that it might suit. Let kids enjoy what they enjoy.

      • -8

        It’s nothing personal against you but for the vast majority of boys doing ballet is not the right thing that they need. It’s feminine, all about aesthetics etc. it’s rigid it’s constraining.

        Boys need to do things like surfing , swim, do martial arts, running, where they get strong and fit and not tip toe around on some weird shoes. Sorry if it hurts your feelings I don’t mean to offend but it’s my opinion.

        • +3

          You know the male dancers don’t wear pointes right?!

          • -3

            @morse: I did a quick google search they wear dresses, makeup. Worst than I thought even. I mean come on be real here.

            • +14

              @mustang87401:

              they wear dresses, makeup

              Trump wears more make up and spends more on hair products than any girl I know

              Be he's a man's man lol

            • +6

              @mustang87401: I know what you are saying mustang but although yes there are quite a few fancy boys in the ballet, there are also a lot of straight shooters too.
              It takes real strength and sporting skill to do those moves and hold the girls up perfectly.

              • +5

                @King Tightarse: I've played a lot of sports. I still surf, kitesurf and compete in downhill MTB racing. I've also played A grade football, boxed and others. The toughest sport and the one I got the most injuries from was gymnastics. While I have never done ballet, I haven't got a rhythmic bone in my body, I know men who have and it is tough. I also know the straight ones get more girls than anyone I know…..probably because they aren't concerned with image

                • -2

                  @slipperypete: Gymnastics is not ballet. Gymnastics is more acceptable than standing on your toes doing swirls and wearing dresses.

                  • +4

                    @mustang87401:

                    Gymnastics is more acceptable

                    Again, this is you thinking you set the definition for what is acceptable.

                    Stop looking at yourself in the mirror and being concerned about social scripts. You'll be a lot happier and your kids won't be embarrassed about you

        • +1

          I never saw the film but this reminds me of Billy Elliot.

          @mustang87401 I see where you're coming from but I think there are more advantages for males this age as you're giving your sons a way to expand their knowledge, expand their physical ability and not only (which many adult men also suffer from), be easily comfortable with the opposite sex, and also expand their social network which is great for their future careers, you just never know when you are going to run into them again.

          at this age, this is more than ballet and looking "manly".

        • +1

          Not being allowed to do whatever you want because some grumpy old guy said "it's not the right thing" is the only thing I am clearly seeing as "rigid and constraining" here.

          You and your opinions are rigid and constraining. You don't know what's best for people and clearly aren't very open minded.
          That's just my opinion.

    • +3

      I've got some bad news for you, brother

      Any martial artist would absolutely kill to have the strength, balance and flexibility that a ballet performer has, male or female. Anyone who disagrees clearly has no idea about how the human body actually works

      Ballet is bad for your feet. Contact sports are bad for just about everything else, though, especially your brain/head/neck. It's kind of a moot point, really

      • “ Any martial artist would absolutely kill to have the strength, balance and flexibility that a ballet performer has, male or female. Anyone who disagrees clearly has no idea about how the human body actually works”

        What are you basing that off? You have research to prove that?

        Anecdotally no martial artist wants the strength of a ballet dancer. Why? Because each activity has their own body build. A 100m sprinter has a different body build to a swimmer. A 200m sprinter has a different body build to a long distance runner. Etc, etc, etc.

        So, do you understand how bodies work and adapt to activities? Different martial artists have different body builds based on their primary martial art. No martial artist wants the build of a ballet dancer. Unless of course you have some research to prove otherwise? If you dont have research then maybe it is a good idea to stop spreading false claims?

        • Anyone who disagrees clearly has no idea about how the human body actually works

          Thanks for being 'Exhibit A'

          Be honest with yourself. It wouldn't matter how much or little martial arts experience I have, how much or little human body and clinical sports experience I have, or how many or few first-hand accounts I have of dancers becoming phenomenal martial artists

          It wouldn't change your mind, because you would much, much rather argue. Your other responses on this topic make that painfully clear

          I hope you can outgrow your persecution fetish, and learn to be comfortable with being wrong. You may actually learn something one day

          • @RealUltimatePapo: You wrote: "Anyone who disagrees clearly has no idea about how the human body actually works". And you are wrong. Because there are simple truths in life that you are denying.

            You wrote: "It wouldn't change your mind, because you would much, much rather argue." Once again you are wrong.

            Have a wonderful day.

    • Girl ballerinas need blokes to lift them. Otherwise it gets boring.
      Blokes don’t last as long as girls in ballet because they end up doing their back in.

      The Russian ballet companies reduce this problem by only letting the ballerinas eat lettuce for fibre and vodka for carbs.

  • +13

    good ol ozbargain comment section never misses an opportunity to start spouting sexist viewpoints.

    • -1

      I know you’d prefer all those differentiating viewpoints to be deleted and blocked don’t you. How progressive open minded and accepting you are.

      • +18

        No, actually i'd prefer us all to try and move past the 1960s popular opinion of what's normal and/or healthy for us or our kids.

        Like, you know how people used to smoke all the time and thought that was healthy?
        Or how people used to think women shouldn't be allowed to vote or own land?

        you are completely 100% free to regurgitate your prehistoric viewpoints, but please don't also start whinging when you get laughed at for it.

        Pick one or the other buddy. not both.

        • Don't forget the asbestos, or blatant racial segregation!

          Our friend here is resistant to change, mainly because people with these viewpoints are uncomfortable with the idea that their entire worldview may not exactly be the kindest or best way to live

          It's all subjective. Still, if they're gonna mouth off, they can't be surprised if others respond in kind

          • @RealUltimatePapo: i know, right? despite the whole free speech talk and ozb moderation being exceptionally friendly to “differentiating viewpoints”, the best retort they can put forward is to complain about a censorship hypothetical.

            like, the “differentiating viewpoint” here is literally just sexism:

            I know you’d prefer all those differentiating sexist viewpoints to be deleted and blocked don’t you. How progressive open minded and accepting you are.

            ill gladly admit it:

            yes, i dont think you should be telling your 12 year old that ballet will turn him gay or female.

            yes i dont think you should be forcing your kids into neat little boxes with gender labels haphazardly slapped on top of everything.

            yes i would rather have a few deleted comments than perpetuate a culture that contributes to the mental health of our men (and women) being destroyed before they hit their 30s.

            oh right i forgot. emotions are for women and real men should keep it all bottled up inside until one or more people end up dying 🙄

  • +3

    The insecure resistance to the idea of men doing ballet reminds me of this classic Simpson's ep which deals with exactly that: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=902yaZ67oLo&pp=ygULYmFydCBiYWx…

  • +2

    50% of professional male ballet dances are gay. Do with that information as you wish.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/13967980_Sexual_Ori…

    • -2

      Exactly! It’s a homosexual sport mainly and the rest is a bunch of Russians pushed into the sport by their crazy helicopter mom. Our society doesn’t need more confused males swirling around with makeup on and weird dresses looking very fruity. Real men is what we are short off nowadays.

      • +4

        Wouldn't mind a few real men would you? I hear you ;) ;)

      • +8

        You are missing the Point Mustang. Your super straight alpha sons would be drowning in it if they took up ballet. Think about that

      • +2

        Our society doesn’t need ppl (like you) dumping on young men by calling them confused.

    • +14

      Do you have a problem with gay people being gay?

      No dancing class is making anyone change their sexuality. If gay men like dancing great, if straight men like dancing, also great. Imagine how many more men of all persuasions would dance if it wasn't for bigots like we’ve seen on this post.

      • -4

        Ok so you put your son in ballet. I couldn’t care less. My sons laughed at me said it’s for girls when I just asked them if they want to try ballet. I must have done some things right… you do you

        • +1

          My son isn’t doing ballet. But if he wants to I won’t have a problem with it.

        • +7

          I couldn’t care less.

          You couldn’t care more evidenced by your comments in this thread.

          • @Eeples: You are going crazy at every comment I make, how can a person be so butthurt about another man’s comment. Your opinion and your comments are all in vain, I don’t care. Save your energy.

            • +5

              @mustang87401: You are the most opinionated person on this forum post. Given it's for something you have said you are your sons have no interest in, you still feel the need to comment several times. It sounds like you are the most hurt, confused and 'crazy' one on here.

              This is my only comment on this thread. I was genuinely interested for my son but it mentions requiring past experience. My son has tried martial arts, soccer, singing, softball, gymnastics and others. Currently does swimming, tennis and ice skating as he has preferred those.

              If I asked him about ballet, I am sure he would be interested in trying it. I hope you realise your sons are only not interested due to your very exteme opinions.

            • @mustang87401: Yes. I’m going a crazy.

              Projection much?

            • -1

              @mustang87401: No, actually i'd prefer us all to try and move past the 1960s popular opinion of what's normal and/or healthy for us or our kids.
              Like, you know how people used to smoke all the time and thought that was healthy? 
Or how people used to think women shouldn't be allowed to vote or own land?
              you are completely 100% free to regurgitate your prehistoric viewpoints, but please don't also start whinging when you get laughed at for it.
              Pick one or the other buddy. not both.

      • +2

        You’re not a bigot for not being enamoured with a particular athletic or artistic pursuit lmao. Queensland Ballet is offering this program because ballet requires men and the girls are suffering due to lack of boy partners. It’s not exactly out a spirit of disinterested benevolence.

        FWIW ballet enrolments only dropped post 2020 and has a lot more to do with the ALPs lockdowns than it does with your alleged “bigots”.

    • +2

      The only surprise is that it is that low.

    • +1

      The study is more than a quarter-century old, and has a pretty small sample size. It also doesn't account for the strong societal impact that the performers of that generation would have to endure, and how many boys growing up would have been dissuaded against doing ballet by society in general at the time (1960s/1970s)

      In purely scientific terms, "more research is needed"

    • Do with that information as you wish.

      You could start by quoting what it actually says!

  • +11

    Have to laugh at all the comments to the effect of "why are they forcing children to take up this activity by making it available for free". Noone is forcing anyone to do anything… but there sure is a lot of insecurity on display though.

    • -7

      Not a single person said that. You lefties are indelibly adept at spinning words to suit your agenda.

      • +7

        Mate there is literally a post above that says 'FFS. Let men remain men'.

        Explain to me how the existence of a free deal prevents 'real men being men? '

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