When ordering, just select "Reburb." The standard/New Kit is $549 RRP + $30 Delivery.
The word is that most refurb kits pretty much look new.
$199 Reburb Units whilst stocks last.
You need to sign up for the service. Activates when you setup Starlink or 30 days after delivery (whatever comes first).
The referrer and referee receives bonus credit for a month of standard service, 30 days after the referee activates and keeps their Starlink. Referrals will only issue credits to Standard Plan (Residential) and Mobile Regional (Roam) subscriptions. Kits purchased from a retailer or reseller are not eligible for the referral program. No credit will be given even if a referral link was used during activation.
Well, if you buy at full price plus the monthly service fee, it adds up so some people cannot justify the setup when it might be once or twice a year. Who knows. It's not a bad idea to rent it out; however, to make good money, you would need to do it week after week since roaming is $195 for 30 days. Yeah, you make maybe $130 a month if you rent it out once, but good money would be a few times a month.
I've rented mine out for a week before for an IT job I was working on that needed another internet connection; I got $300 for the week.
How do you stop people torrenting, doing anything illegal?
Its your service in the contract not the casual renter.
You can't. They could access all the illegal dark web sites and you'll be responsible. Hence why the criminals would prefer it to cover their geo locations and keep their anonymity.
Someone access dark sites?, The AFP will be knocking on your door. Too risky.
@nuno: meh, if you know who it is youre renting to, you can just pass on the info and say "yeah it was these people" Even better if the sessions are geologged and you can prove youve been home the whole time.
The only people I can think who would rent these out are drug dealers \ couriers and crims that want anonymity and off the mobile network.
How and why would they get that? It is much more likely to be a family camping who want access to YouTube for the kids and Netflix for themselves.
Imagine going out camping and still glued to your screens may aswell go camp in your backyard 😂
@illumination: Screens provide sweet sweet relief from over tired kids having the caravan holiday of their life. It isn’t a 24/7 screen time thing. It’s a “we’re tired and sick of them - have a screen for a bit” thing.
We just use preloaded shows on Netflix though.
@umoddbro: Imagine going remote but able to make calls over wifi via satellite, upload trip photos, extend your holiday by working remote.
Kids watching screens at night as it can get boring.
@umoddbro: You're right. If you're not hiking into the wilderness, building a shelter with wood you've cut down, hunting and skinning an animal for food it's not real camping.
I rent these out and surprisingly it's typically to Telstra or SA Water or some other company whose staff can't be bothered or don't have the time to go through the corporate rigmarole, and just get it from me and expense it.
I'd love to know ping and latency performance.
Try google
This site seems to be using tbe wrong metric for their test, its even different to the speedtest.net result lower down.
8Mb = 1MB.
Which one? Starlink Space or Starlink Install Gippsland?
Ping test on my Starlink -
Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=37ms TTL=117
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=40ms TTL=117
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=117
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=117
Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 37ms, Maximum = 53ms, Average = 44ms
Thanks!
Mine is
Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=117
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=117
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=117
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=117
Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss)
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 26ms
20 is best case, 40-50 is the norm, still perfectly usable.
@BargainKen: 24 Hour Average I've recorded (based on 5 min tests with 4 pings per test):
Average Ping
Google: 25.55 ms
Cloudflare: 27.17 ms
Faster ping than my home cable line.
this is typical
Pinging 8.8.8.8 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=116
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=27ms TTL=116
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=32ms TTL=116
Reply from 8.8.8.8: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=116
Ping statistics for 8.8.8.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 32ms, Average = 25ms
OP, in the post you mention the monthly service cannot be paused.
However, cannot find any particular mention of this in the critical information summary of the services and several sites point the users on how to pause the service.
I'd like to use this as a back up for my nbn.
could you or someone else confirm?
Residential cannot be paused. You would need to cancel it and then activate it again, provided service is available in your area.
When roaming, you can just hit "pause," and it will stop. Then when ready, you just hit "unpause", pay the fees and away you go. However, you cannot do it for residential. You would need to "sign up" again for residential. If you did the Roam 50GB for $80, that would be a good idea for failover.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Starlink/comments/13n0m7n/possible_… also explains.There isn't really anything easily on the Starlink site.
I'd like to use this as a back up for my nbn.
I've got my Starlink as a failover and always going on residential. I have done it with the failover built into my Ubiquiti Dream Machine. Even if my main connection drops with
high latency, kits in Starlink.
If you did the Roam 50GB for $80, that would be a good idea for failover if you didn't need a lot of data.
Ok, thanks. Also found it in the TOS:
Residential Service Plan. The Residential Service Plan is designed for personal, family, or household use at a fixed land-based location. See the Starlink Specifications for details on the typical performance. Service activation and associated billing cannot be paused under the Residential Plan. The Residential Service Plan includes an unlimited amount of “Residential” data. In times of network congestion and during peak usage hours, users may experience slower speeds and reduced performance which may result in degradation or unavailability of certain third-party services or applications, as described in the Fair Use Policy. Bandwidth intensive applications, such as streaming videos, gaming, or downloading large files are most likely to be impacted during peak usage hours. Customers with high bandwidth needs that experience Service degradation resulting from Starlink’s network management practices are able to upgrade to a Priority Service Plan. Supplemental customer support for business or government specific requests (e.g., modified invoicing or tax-exempt certifications) are only available under Starlink’s Priority Service Plans and may not be supported under Residential Service Plan subscriptions. The Residential Service Plan is not permitted for business or enterprise uses. If bandwidth patterns consistently exceed what is allocated to a typical residential user, Starlink may take network management measures, such as temporarily reducing a customer's speeds, to prevent or mitigate congestion of the Services. Depending on your country, Mini Kits may not be used with the Residential Service Plan.
You can't pause it but you can cancel. Activation is free. There are no fixed terms. So practically you can "pause" payment.
Yes, but they do say "provided service is available in your area" you can sign up again. I think this mainly affects the US, haven't seen/heard much about it for AU. But something to keep in mind.
Very true
Been trialling the new starlink minis for work. Probably none of this is news to anyone here, but I just wanted to rave about them to someone.
We've currently cable-tied them to the top of the vehicles (proper mounts still being shipped) and plugged into the cigarette lighter for power (soon to be external anderson plug when we have time to do the cable). They're IP67 rated, but I'm going to be very interested to see how they hold up.
It just works. Internet anywhere. It works at 100km/hr and easily 100+ metres from the vehicle. Can get an adapter to connect it to a power tool battery and take them literally anywhere if you need to be further away and have connectivity. The setup is so small and light it's negligible.
Working in remote areas is nothing at all like it used to be. Satellite phones are obsolete, VHF radios are a waste of time. It's genuinely like going through the entire internet revolution a second time… because I guess it is.
Yeah I want a mini at a discount. Probably years away from that.
I wonder if the low-power "mini" hardware will go on special too
If only there was a non-musk alternative to starlink :/
sky muster 🤢
You've just about got to be a egomaniac billionaire to pull it off. None of it would work without owning SpaceX for the launch capacity, and borrowing their space engineering expertise to design the units imo.
Yeah I hate it when billionaires support free speech and sh*t…
Know a billionaire who does?
44 billion to stop a kid tweeting public data about his private plane flights and to unban Trump.
It is just his free speech mate, not yours…
How so?
Feeling so ripped. Paid $599 in May.
But it’s excellent at least. I hope it stays that way - too many people with fixed line NBN taking it up. I get it, it’s often an improvement, but if everyone uses it then it becomes crap. Not great for those of us with satellite only.
Feeling so ripped. Paid $599 in May.
Unfortunately it happens, a pain but their sales are so random.
I hope it stays that way - too many people with fixed line NBN taking it up. I get it, it’s often an improvement
Only an improvement if you maybe have FTTN.
but if everyone uses it then it becomes crap
I don't think there has been anything really that has indicated that with new uptake it has become crap. Starlink have 4 million customers globally now and I haven't heard/seen anyone complain about performance dropping.
It’s about customers in a ‘cell’, not worldwide. There have definitely been people on reddit complaining about over subscription in their areas.
Each satellite has a bandwidth of 20gbps. That’s only 200 users at a 100mbps each. Sure not all of them will use it concurrently, but on my area there are probably 1000 homes which are designated NBN satellite. If all of those move to starlink, it becomes concerning when the ‘in towners’ start to migrate as well.
Not a problem now, I’m just worried it could become one with how often starlink is recommended.
Whilst yes, that is providing that all of those users are pulling exactly 100mbps, it is unlike though. Even now, I am only pulling 3mbps constantly on my connection, which is primarily going to be a YouTube stream I've got in the background.
Yes, there is heaps of stuff on Reddit, but I believe that is mostly US based and might be different. I think it also needs to be considered about the number of ground stations. There are at least 3 in VIC, plus others around the country. I'm not sure what it is around the US, but maybe that could be the issue, plus any scenarios where the Satelittes use their "laser" communications to feed off one another.
My understanding is that there are only two NBN satellites to service the entire country, so that is obviously a huge issue for congestion vs 7,000 for Starlink (4,700 operational) for the entire world.
I don't disagree with you, but at this stage there has been minimal notice. Plus those "in towers" shouldn't really be on since they should be on FTTP or FTTC, but there are people who just think Starlink is better and don't understand the technical elements of it.
@geekcohen: Yeah perhaps I’m worried for nothing, but with the amount of starlink recommendations I see get thrown around, it concerns me. I literally don’t have an alternative option, and my livelihood depends on a stable internet connection, so I’m rightfully defensive of it.
@loksmack: Oh, 100%, I agree with you. As a Starlink user, I understand your defensiveness. Yes, it is thrown around a lot because people think it is faster than their NBN when it isn't. Again, not many understand the technical terms of it all vs NBN.
Also I'm pretty sure these refurbs are the current gen3 dish which is far superior to the older models
Lol why did I get negged
V2 has no ethernet port, extremely poor wifi range and is heavier/bulkier with a proprietary very fragile cable. New one uses standard ethernet.
Yes but the cable needs to be shielded and also sorrows connectors.
I have used an 80 m length of outdoor ethernet cable from eBay works perfectly
@jjsnacks: Yeah outdoor is shielded. And looks to be a hell of a lot cheaper than the official ones! Thanks, I'll have to look into those more. I didn't even know there was an outdoor rated cable… That's awesome. I'll just have to print some of the rainproof boot on the dish end.
Sorry my reply above said "sorrows connectors" … Autocorrect. Meant to be so does the connectors.
@redpen: I used the original starlink cable to keep the waterproofing and used a waterproof connector to connect the eBay ethernet cable to it
@jjsnacks: Good idea. Original cable + extra length, where the extra length could already be covered in the roof.
Here's a + for you. Nothing wrong here.
Anyone able to tell me if this is right:
1. Have starlink already (well, in-laws do) for use when away in holiday locations.
2. I believe subscription is tied to the dish.
3. Would like 1 portable dish and 1 dish to stay are regular holiday house.
So- I believe I’d need 2 dishes and 2 subs.
Apart from the purchase price, is there any ongoing cost if both dishes were on the $80 activate anytime plan? Is there an ongoing “access fee” or similar?
Would save a heap of car space not having to pack the dish every time.
Once you buy the hardware, all you have to do is pay the service/plan fee. There isn't any access fee/membership type subscription if that is what you are asking.
You could have one dish and one subscription, which you can take with you everywhere unless you want to leave one permanently at the holiday house.
The subscription is tied to the kit, so you can't just say, "I want this kit to have it this week, and then transfer the subscription to the other kit and use that the other week."
Compared to the Generation 2, this kit is a lot more flat and easier to have, so it doesn't take up a lot of room in the car.
Note when pausing on the roam plan, that billing is in one month increments and that there is no pro rata of a month.
You are pro-rated until your billing date. If I restarted my service today on the $80 plan I would pay about $42 as my billing date is the 26th. The problem is when I only need it for a few days from the 24th to the 28th, I pay a couple of days for the end of the first month, then the full 2nd month.
can you get 1gbps yet on this? or does it still max out at 250mbps?
Max is about 450Mpbs but it is all variable. I think it'll be a while before 1Gbps is available; a lot of work on equipment and satellites would be required.
I get 350 down most days, 440 is peak.
Has anyone had experience using this on a cruise?
You would need to have a Global Roam if you were to use that. Thats $374 a month for 50GB.
They caught the booster!!!!
Great achievement for sure! Hopefully it means they can launch more Starlinks in bulk rather than the 22/23 they are limited to on a Falcon 9.
If you get one of these and are looking for a case to carry and store it in, it fits perfectly in a 24" soft monitor case. This is the one I use https://www.storedj.com.au/products/gator-small-padded-lcd-t…
Starlink Wifi Router
Product Dimensions 43.4 x 298.6 x 120.4 mm (1.7 in x 11.76 in x 4.74 in)
Wi-Fi Technology 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/ax
Generation Wi-Fi 6
Radio Tri Band 4 x 4 MU-MIMO
Ethernet Ports Two (2) Latching Ethernet
Looks like an excellent deal even to get the router lol :D I paid the same price for VividWireless LTE router back then :/
You cannot use the router as a router though. It isn't like a TP Link or another random router which you can config for your NBN connection.
It would only be good if you had Starlink already and wanted another router for a Mesh.
can't we connect any WAN to STARLINK port ?>
Yes
@bazingaa: Not sure what you mean exactly. You can connect wifi devices directly to Starlink router, yes.
@bazingaa: No. You cannot use it as an AP to an existing network. The router isn't configurable as easily as a TP Link router etc. Its only configurable via the Starlink app and has very limited functionality.
I don't think so. Haven't tried it, but I don't think so since I believe the Starlink Dish Port has some POE on it.
Noob question, can you use the Roam 50Gb plan on the Standard kit? Or does it have to be the Mini Dish?
You can use it on a Standard Kit.
How do i get ROAM 50GB $80 with the refurbished kit? It looks like they only offer the mini or new kit…
You might have to order the Refurb and then cancel the residential plan before the activation, then sign up for the Roaming 50GB. Haven't tried this before though. I can convert either of my Gen 2 or Gen 3 to a 50GB Roaming.
thats what i thought. thanks!
I have just received a kit from this deal, I want to go on the roam plan when I need it as well. I have logged in to the portal and cancelled the residential plan and now I am given the option to start a Roam plan.
Hopefully it will just sit there waiting for me to activate without it doing the "will be automatically activated after 30 days" thing. Best to add a debit/credit card that will bounce as a payment method.
Can I buy the hardware without paying the monthly fee?
From Starlink Directly, I don't believe so. Unless you order it and then cancel the plan before the activation. Unsure, haven't tried it before.
Is this Standard kit have region lock? Eg. use outside of Australia?
The kit itself won't be region locked, but you will need a service plan accordingly. Global Roam, Residential in another country etc etc.
Starlink do charge a $200 fee I believe if you activate hardware from another region so be careful on that one
Have they run out? I can't seem to get an option for a refurb kit?
Its still there, I got it, make sure you are ordering under Residential.
I think I’m doing something wrong, I go to order a refurbished star link, I click through from the $80 roam “plan” but at the invoice part it says $199 plus $30 delivery and that I will be charged $195 mo the fee after activation or 30 days after purchase.
![[Refurbished] Starlink Hardware Kit $199 + $30 Delivery | Service $139/Month @ Starlink](https://files.ozbargain.com.au/n/58/871358.jpg?h=880975b2)
Interesting to see the amount of people renting these out on Marketplace for astronomical fees - 7 Days (w/ Internet Access) for something like $330.