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Free, Non-Stop Flights for Aussies Fleeing Lebanon, from Cyprus to Sydney @ Qantas

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beatthatflight on 04/10/2024 - 20:46 qantasnewsroom.com.au (1199 clicks)
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In a break from my regular travel deal posting, hopefully this'll help someone who needs to get out of Lebanon fast.

Qantas will operate two non-stop flights between Cyprus and Sydney, to help Australians in Lebanon get home on behalf of the Australian Government.

The flights will be operated using a Qantas Boeing 787 and will be able to carry up to 440 Australians back home.

The first service is expected to depart Larnaca in Cyprus on Monday evening (local time), arriving in Sydney on Tuesday.

The second direct Dreamliner service is expected to depart on Wednesday.

The national carrier will operate these assisted-departure flights free of charge for the Australian Government, with no cost to those travelling on the flight. The airline is working to obtain the necessary approvals.

The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade (DFAT) is coordinating registration for Australians wanting to return home.

Qantas has called for pilots and cabin crew to nominate their interest in operating the flights. This is expected to be oversubscribed as it was with the special assistance flights from Tel Aviv in October 2023, when 900 cabin crew expressed their interest for 70 positions.

These assisted-departure flights will impact some customers booked to travel on our international network, and customers are being contacted directly with alternative travel arrangements. We’re working to minimise the impact as much as possible and appreciate their understanding.

ADVICE FROM THE AUSTRALIAN GOVERNMENT

Australians who want to leave Lebanon via Cyprus should register at DFAT’s Crisis Portal. If you have already registered with DFAT you do not need to register again.

For urgent consular assistance, Australians should continue to call the Australian Government’s 24-hour Consular Emergency Centre on +61 2 6261 3305 (from overseas) or 1300 555 135 (from within Australia).

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          • Lurk Hartog on 05/10/2024 - 08:54
            +4

            @Devils Advocate: Is there an alternative option where you can just eliminate a terrorist organisation deeply embedded in a civilian population with zero civilian casualties? How would you suggest Israel goes about eliminating Hamas?

            • Vampy on 05/10/2024 - 09:06
              +1

              @Lurk Hartog: Targeting every hospital and school isn't "eliminating terrorists"

              • Strange1 on 05/10/2024 - 12:14
                +3

                @Vampy: Maybe ….just maybe you should also save some of that outrage if terrorists were to hide out in those places (as evidence from international organizations have confirmed). They rely on a reaction from "useful idiots" when they are rightly targeted (as is permissible by international law)

              • AncientWisdom on 07/10/2024 - 19:37

                @Vampy: It is when they're embedding themselves in hospitals and school (even according to the Geneva conventions that is a fair target)

                • Vampy on 08/10/2024 - 08:22
                  -2

                  @AncientWisdom: Yes I'm sure every hospital school has terrorists in it. Bet you're proud to be a genocide supporter.

            • Devils Advocate on 05/10/2024 - 13:51
              +2

              @Lurk Hartog: Some kind of response may have been warranted, but killing 40,000 civilians can not be justified.

              • Lurk Hartog on 05/10/2024 - 15:30
                +2

                @Devils Advocate: Can you name a war that has a lower ratio of civilian deaths than this conflict? If this is an abnormally high rate of civilian casualties then you may have some argument, but most of what I read say that the proportion of civilians killed in this conflict is relatively low overall, and astoundingly low for urban combat in a heavily populated area.

                Allied bombing resulted in up to 500,000 German civilian deaths in World War 2.

              • HelpMeiCantSee on 05/10/2024 - 17:19

                @Devils Advocate: Problem is though, that number includes combatants. If they bothered to distinguish between the two and provide an actual number of innocents, they may garner a more sympathetic ear. But lumping hamas combatants and innocent civvies in a death toll reeks of a hidden agenda to most.

                I most certainly am not a fan of zionists. I feel very strongly and have my own hopes for them which I will not share- but I am able to out that aside and relatively cleanly look at this conflict, which started in 2023 after a large terrrosist attack. The history leading to that attack may be long, but that attack took place October 2023, was abhorrent and received the exact response that was sought.

    • clubhonda on 04/10/2024 - 21:21
      +12

      The government needs to get their wits together and stop funding dangerous rescue missions as all it does is breed foolish citizens. Once they stick to a policy of no rescues, natural selection will weed out the idiots and the IQ level as a whole will rise nationally. Also as a taxpayer I don't agree with using tax dollars for rescue missions. I'd rather they use it to fix potholes on the road.

      • OzzyBrak on 04/10/2024 - 21:51
        +5

        People expect to be bailed out these days. Don’t buy travel insurance, just set up a go fund me. Ignore travel advice, if it gets bad enough I’ll get a free trip home.

      • Roddi on 04/10/2024 - 23:54
        +1

        So citizenship should be conditional on not being foolish or an idiot?
        I'm on board if it's also applied to smokers who get lung cancer, speeding drivers who crash etc etc.
        It's going to a long list.
        But the money we save hospitalising those morons will fix all the pot holes and a whole lot more.

        • clubhonda on 05/10/2024 - 02:19
          +1

          Citizenship itself doesn't have to be conditional to that but citizenship AID certainly should! Why should we fund search and rescue for people who ignore warning signs and wanders off beaten path who then needs rescue, or smokers who receives a lung transplant, only to resume smoking again?

          • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 06:04
            -1

            @clubhonda: It's a miniscule cost in the scheme of things and it saves lives.

            Why wouldn't Australia fund it.

            And why do you even care.

  • grog on 04/10/2024 - 21:16

    God save the King

    • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 21:30
      -4

      Your comments are very on beat and rythemic with the anti israeli / Jewish narrative, I see you are very open for dialogue, with an open mindset accepting peace and tolerance? 😍

      • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 22:05
        +4

        Me? When there is conflict and illegal occupation of a people's lands…. with an imbalance in military power and violence meted out on the respective populations… I can see grave injustice.

        Would you be promoting peace and tolerance of the WW2 german regime, knowing that they had occupied the territories of other people, and were carrying out massive brutal inhumane actions?

        Or do you believe that israel doesn't occupy any land not formally designated and granted to israel when western countries "gifted" the country of israel, after several years of the mandate protectors (britain) having their soldiers and civilians assasinated by terrorists (terrorists, not resistance fighters)

        Or do you believe that israel doesn't carry out brutal inhumane illegal violence against occupied civilians on a massive scale, suppressing and assassinating any attempts at independent journalism on a scale never seen in modern times, by a nation that claims to be civilised?

        • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 22:33
          +3

          Which history is your true history? the one that begun 70 years ago or the 3000 years old one?

          Because your Quaran also acknowledges israel is the land of the Jews, and the Jewish monarchies at its time.

          Military and developmental imbalance?
          as like, when a country invests in itself to grow and prosper rather than designate 90% of its resources for multiplying and issuing terrorists to ruin anything nice the west ever tries to accomplish?

          You're brainwashed, you only care for your narrative of the loud majority which inevitably is the work of repeated Muslim occupation of European and Western continents. throughout time all that the Persian countries and monarchies tried to achieve was world domination and greed, time after time, Judaism and Christianity stands in its way, now that they've infiltrated Western society in the guise of humanitarian aid, we're filthed with protests and centrelink mooching cases.

          • WinstonWithAY on 04/10/2024 - 22:40
            -2

            @The Milk Man: hopefully iran turn tel aviv into a parking lot. israel is a rotten country and a terrible ally. i don't want them dragging us into a war on their behalf to have young australian men die

            • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 22:43
              +4

              @WinstonWithAY: lmao
              rotten country that gave you the processing power to write your degenerate comment.

              Iran can barely build a powerplant, to imagine they'll take them a world leading military with their army arsenal of Russian and North Korean rockets is a joke worth of an Oscar for best comedy

              get (profanity), pinky promise by next weekend Iran will sit in eternal darkness wondering how come all of its resources blew up in an evening.

            • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 01:07

              @WinstonWithAY: Israel is an ally is something I often hear…. but I honestly don't know of any alliance israel has with a western country…. I wonder if someone can clarify that…..

            • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 06:08
              +1

              @WinstonWithAY: Hopefully neither.
              You've managed to respond to milkman's dumb comment with something disgusting.

              • Jstrrrr on 06/10/2024 - 07:24

                @Rick Sanchez: Agreed. That's the danger here, isn't it? You read an idiot's loud and numerous postings and can't help but responding. But then you go overboard. LOL

          • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 23:34
            +2

            @The Milk Man: You're an idiot.
            "My Quaran" doesn't exist… my heritage is english and irish, and before I lost faith in the whole god theme, I was raised as a catholic.

            Even a halfwit can understand that if every person on earth claimed the piece of land that their ancestors of 10,000 years ago walked on…there would be complete chaose. But somehow it's ok in some people's (and your) mind that the concept should apply to jews.

            WW2 germany invested in itself to grow and prosper…. in much the same way as israel… by attempting to annex the lands of others. That is not a legal, moral, or applaudable strategy of moral people.

            You call me brainwashed, with a narrative of the loud majority….. a pretty dumb thing to say considering the voting patterns of this page.

            It's bizarre that you write about the repeated muslim occupation of european and western continents… when anyone with a fleeting grasp of history would be that rome and britain are the two most well known expansionist nations. I presume you've got no knowledge at all of the crusades of medieval europe.

            You like to use emotive words in the place of logic, which doesn't put much meat in your case.

            If western countries had acted differently historically, starting from the balfour declaration where britain decided to give the lands of one people to an entirely different group that didn't live there in any significance…. and had suppressed the european jewish terrorists like the stern gang and the menachem begin (the lovely man that went on to be an israeli pm) and irgun…. the history of the middle east would have been very different.

            If israel wasn't given such massive military, financial, and political aid by some western nations, there wouldn't be a case for humanitarian aid. There wouldn't be the massive displacement, slaughter, and occupation of palestinian lands. Western countries, primarily the US, enabled israel to create this massive humanitarian disaster.

            • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 23:42
              +2

              @rooster7777: You're ignorant. You spit random words and convince yourself they're facts.

              The crusade was to reclaim what the Arabs TOOK. not whay they had.
              The lands of the middle east were Jewish and Christian.
              The Arabs showed up. killed. took.

              The crusades took back.

              You represent the ideoly I oppose. you are it.

              You talk about voting patterns?
              you're surprised people Neg you for spewing racist, antisetmitic filth?
              or you are confident that using the words "Jews" and "Zionists" in angry comments doesn't make you antisemite?

              WW2 Germany was taking by Force.
              Israel is forced to take. there's a huge difference.
              Israel time and time offered to settle and give up, to meet in the middle and coexist.
              The greed on their opposition hasn't stopped.

              Israel wasn't given things, Israel made those things of itself.
              Ever since its birth it was the victim of the hatred of the Arab world, who continuously failed to understand the potential of coexisting, as they refuse to coexist with themselves now.

              You do understand that if Israel wanted to wipe out the Palestinian people, they could.
              More than enough bombs to carpet the literal whole of Gaza. don't kid yourself, you say military imbalance and disproportion time and time again but you forget that they are literally a nuclear nation with the means to do as they please.

              Mod: Removed inappropriate/inflammatory statement

              • Roddi on 05/10/2024 - 00:08
                +3

                @The Milk Man: You and rooster have fun beating each other up, but the claim that "Israel time and time offered to settle and give up, to meet in the middle and coexist" just ain't true.
                Likud has been in power around 39 of the last 50 years, and their charter explicitly says there will never be any land for the Palestinians, ever.
                And Netanyahu has been caught on camera saying he deliberately sabotaged the Oslo peace process.
                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvqCWvi-nFo

                The Arabs & Palestinians aren't angels, but neither are the Israelis. At all.

                • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 00:11
                  +2

                  @Roddi: Roddi I understand that it appears the Israeli patience has reached its wits, and when busses explode in your suburban neighborhood I'm sure your mindset may vary.

                  The Centre-Right parties were not in control for a long long while.
                  Prior to their reign there was a political climate of peace, negotiations and understanding.

                  Peace was offered multiple times between 1947 and 1990.
                  Land was offered.
                  Understanding was possible - it was only met with declarations of their failed wars, leave or be made to leave was their response.

                  I don't understand your response and how it only addresses 40% of Israel's political narrative.
                  Why do you expect them to be a punching bag of the nay-sayers that are their neighbors?

                • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 00:14
                  +1

                  @Roddi: For what its worth, in the very limited 1.5 years of voting rights I had in Israel, the vote was always towards the Left political climate.
                  However you cannot blame patriotic citizens for fearing for their potential when every time they reached their hand out for peace, it was blown off of their arm.

                • AncientWisdom on 05/10/2024 - 01:45
                  +2

                  @Roddi: I can understand why you point to the Likud's current charter but you need to understand it did not come out of nowhere, the current charter I believe is a result of prior decades of Israel trying to resolve the situation peacefully. In fact it was the government ran by the Likud party that has unilaterally pulled out of Gaza in 2005 in an attempt to give the Palestinians what they've been asking for (even without a prior peace treaty) with a sincere belief/hope that it might work out - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_disengagement_from_the…

                  Seeing how that turned out (Hamas winning the election and militirising Gaza) has made most if not all of Israel's right wing change direction away from a two state solution. You might disagree with it, but surely you can understand how that could happen.

              • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:13
                +3

                @The Milk Man: Sorry…. my mistake. I should learn history as taught by the milkman…. where the countless crusades were actually actions by local christians and jews in the middle east, rather than what other sources tell us, being invasions by europeans into the middle east.

                You clearly have a different idea than me about the bloodthirstiness/ slaughter of civilians of a different religion during the crusades. You indicate "the arabs showed up, killed, took"…. With the implicit meaning that the christians were compassionate and tolerant of different religions in areas they overcame.

                You describe my comments as "anti semitic filth"… apparently because I use the words jews and zionists. Were there things in particular I said to raise your rage, or are those actual words anti semitic filth?

                "taken by force, and forced to take… a huge difference". Your logic gets more and more obviously bizarre.
                Israel time and time offered to settle and give up, meet in the middle. Could you give me a few, or even one…. example of where israel agreed to a two state solution, which I reckon is about the only result that could be described as "meeting in the middle"

                I do agree with you that "israel wasn't given things"…. but I'd say when you take something that belongs to others, it's taking… not "made those things itself"

                I do understand that israel could wipe out the palestinian people in the region if it wanted to. I believe the only reason they don't is because israel understand the massive international outrage and reaction that would occur if they did. Israel only became a nation because of massive support of parts of the western world, and still only survives because of that support…. but that support is rapidly fading because of israel's most recent atrocities.

                Israel has transformed the outlook of much of the western world from sympathy…. to utter alienation, as a result of israel's recent actions. You may have noticed that most nations of the world have recently voted in support of palestine, blocked only by the US, australia, and a few tinpot island and african nations. The world demands a semblance of moral behaviour, and people of the world have become so outraged that western governments can no longer affort to turn a blind eye to israel's actions.

                I'm well aware that israel is a nuclear nation. As a matter of interest, how do you think that a nation of 2 million people (at the time) managed to get the technology? I suspect they didn't even need the mossad's help to get it. Makes a bit of a joke about the US's position on non nuclear proliferation.

                Most people of the world, though perhaps not you…. are aware that no nation on earth can "do as they please" in terms of nuclear weapons, without massive and potentially terminal effect. Because israel hasn't nuked any unfriendly neighbours doesn't make israel a fine nation… it simply means it has a basic understanding of reality.

                • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 00:18
                  +1

                  @rooster7777: I'm genuinely tired of responding to your paragraphs, every time I do you blaze past my points and write a new fanfiction.

                  There has been repeated offers for peace from the Israeli governments, including giving up lands, many, many, many many many times, including in recent history - even as early as the year 2000.

                  I doesn't matter, dude, even if I showed you these articles and documents, all the proof, would it change your mind? would you think you're wrong?

                  Or would you call it zionist propaganda? would you say they only offered it because they knew the PLO will refuse? or did you just ignore the fact the PLO always refuses?

                  Its not about peace, its about bloodthirst.

                  • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 01:11

                    @The Milk Man: In what year was it that israel agreed to a two state solution?

                    • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 01:18
                      +3

                      @rooster7777: Israel had previously, many times, voiced its agreement to a 2 state solution. It cannot, however, unilaterally agree "okay 2 state now" without the PLO agreeing also, so I'm struggling to come up with a response.

                      Can you rephrase your question in a more realistic, contextual manner for me to address?
                      Happy to try and debunk

                      • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 01:20
                        +3

                        @The Milk Man: In what year was it that israel agreed to negotiate a two state solution?

                        • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 01:27
                          +3

                          @rooster7777: Please, just let me know why the following historical agreements are irrelevant.
                          You won't like it, but its as early as -

                          Nov 29, 1947

                          UN Partition Plan
                          The UN General Assembly passes Resolution 181 calling for the partition of the Palestinian territories into two states, one Jewish and one Arab. The resolution also envisions an international, UN-run body to administer Jerusalem.

                          (Israel agreed)

                          May 4, 1994
                          Arafat, president of Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) shakes hands with Israeli Premier Rabin

                          The Gaza-Jericho Agreement
                          The Israelis and the Palestinians sign the Gaza-Jericho Agreement, which begins implementation of the Oslo Accords. The agreement provides for an Israeli military withdrawal from Gaza and Jericho, a town in the West Bank, and for a transfer of authority from Israeli administration to the newly formed Palestinian Authority. The agreement also establishes the structure and composition of the Palestinian Authority, its jurisdiction and legislative powers, a Palestinian police force, and relations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Arafat returns to the Gaza Strip after a long absence.

                          Sep 28, 1995
                          U.S. President Bill Clinton, Israeli Prime Minister Rabin, Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, Jordan's King Hussein, and Arafat

                          Oslo II Accord

                          Israeli and Palestinian negotiators sign the Interim Agreement, sometimes called Oslo II. It gives the Palestinians control over additional areas of the West Bank and defines the security, electoral, public administration, and economic arrangements that will govern those areas until a final peace agreement is reached in 1999.

                          At the Annapolis Conference in November 2007, three major parties—The PLO, Israel, and the US—agreed on a two-state solution as the outline for negotiations. However, the summit failed to achieve an agreement.

                          You could read more here;
                          https://www.britannica.com/topic/two-state-solution
                          https://education.cfr.org/learn/timeline/israeli-palestinian…

                          Or just ask a local historian idk

                          • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 02:00
                            +3

                            @The Milk Man: Thanks…. though a bit of irrelevant stuff there

                            So in 1947, when jews had no formal status or rights in palestine, a proposal was put forward that 600,00 jews (mainly jews from europe arriving in the previous 20 years) should create the state of israel, having 56.5% of all the land, and 1,200,000 arabs should have 43% of all land.
                            Curiously, the jews agreed to the proposal and the arabs refused to negotiate on this proposal.

                            Once israel was declared a nation state in 1948, there was no further interest in israel agreeing to palestine existing as a state until 2007. There were a number of proposals for palestinians to live semi autonomously under israel's ultimate control, but no two state solution.

                            Since 1982 palestinians have agreed there should be a two state solution.

                            In 2007 israel agreed to negotiate regarding a two state solution, and there were ongoing negotiations but no agreement. In 2009 israel invaded the gaza strip, and has not agreed to a two state solution, or negotiations towards a two state solution, after the 2009 gaza invasion.

                            In recent times israel's position continues to be that it does not accept a two state solution.

                            Thanks for your help clarifying that.

                            By the way…. in earlier posts where you suggested I wasn't impartial, and I pointed out I was of british descent and catholic as a child…. the honest thing to do would have been to state that you had lived in israel for one and a half years, which likely also means you are jewish.

                            • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 02:13
                              +4

                              @rooster7777: I have no beef with you lol

                              I am of Jewish descent, not practicing or considering myself anything but a homosexual atheist, literally married to a man
                              I grew up in Israel, it is not what you're portraying it to be.
                              It is a country of forward thinking individuals who are all seeking peace, some are frustrated with the repeat failed attempts, some are optimistic it is the only way.
                              I do lean towards the latter, but I am no pushover.

                              Our mentality has always been the same, peace will be answered with peace, prosperity belongs to everyone, we wish for all of our neighbours to thrive and be happy.

                              Our governments through time tried to give a fair chance and the whole consensus of our current political climate is - we'd rather be the ones to kill than be the ones killed. Essentially survival, which we would all choose.

                              It is so easy to be an observer my man, its so easy to sit somewhere else, read political headlines and be like "dang, those pesky zionists" , when zionisim in itself is believing in our right to exist -

                              we were there with the palestinians. Technically, the palestinians and modern day israelis are of the same 12 tribes written about in every variation of the bible / quaran

                              to say the land belongs to them mroe than it belogns to us is actual theft, as it has always been, through history, shared between 3 ethnicities, with peace thriving in jerusalem.

                              In recent times, there is very little patience to the PLO as the PLO keeps doing some of the following;
                              Issuing salaries to people who had murdered civilians, the more you kill? the more you get paid.
                              Inciting its young ones for hate and actual terror acts through its UNRA programs.

                              Who are our partners for peace?…

                              in the meanwhile, we reach past our region to other arab countries, other gulf countries, and establish successful peace agreements.

                              • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 05:31
                                +2

                                @The Milk Man: How many Palestinians has Israel killed over time compared to Israelis killed by Palestine? Interning how it always goes one way.

                                'country of forward thinking individuals' do you mean that breeding terrorism in Palestine during decades of oppression was planned?

                                The country was shared between 3 ethnicities -
                                How did they end up landlocked in the Gaza strip then? Which I hope you can see how oddly similar it is to the Jewish neighbourhoods in WWIi.

                                I'm not condoning either side by the way, both have committed atrocities and contributed to the state of things today.

                              • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 07:56
                                -1

                                @The Milk Man: "You have no beef with me lol" but use various words to attempt to be demeaning, like "cutie" "ittie bitty" etc… Nice try.

                                "Of jewish descent, grew up in israel" "a country of forward thinking individuals who are all seeking peace"

                                You, the person of jewish descent who grew up in israel, who accused me, a person of british descent and catholic until I knew better, of having blind prejudice against israel.

                                Trying to suggest that israel is a country of individuals who are all seeking peace, while expanding its population as fast as possible by importing all possible persons of different races from all over the world, so long as they are jewish….. then creating illegal settlements outside israel and driving the occupants from that land…. is laughable if it wasn't so tragic.

                                "a homosexual atheist" who bangs on about what is in the bible….

                                the person who denies that the jewish lobby has a grossly extended influence over western world politics, and says that terms "zionist" and "jewish lobby" are offensive….

                                Your deceit is exposed, and your position is clear. Like many others, you are a blind adherent to the belief that israel is entitled to carry out whatever violence it sees fit against palestinians, and suggest israel is benevolent because it could but doesn't use nuclear weapons in the middle east.

                                I grew up being "educated" that israel was a brave little country, surrounded on all sides by hostile nasty people, overcoming all adversity. When I grew up and started to consider the world from the view of a rational unbiased adult, and explored history….. I started to realise that all was not as I had been told.

                                Rather than the defender of freedom, jews from europe invaded the middle east, carried out violent terrorist acts against british peacekeepers, local arabs, and even local jews… continously.

                                The jews from europe that invaded the middle east had been denied entry to western countries… and it was perhaps their guilty conscience for this position which caused western countries to support israel's status to become a recognised nation, and supply them with the weapons and munitions to defeat all who resisted israel.

                                In more recent times israel has demonstrated no regard for "allies" or conventions of conflict. Israel knowingly attacked the US liberty, an american warship in international waters, during the six day war. Israel recently attacked other countries knowingly, bombing facilities including an embassy to attempt to kill their opponents.

                                Israel has been the prime source of conflict recently, far from being an innocent peace loving country. Israel's PM is recognised even by a great number of its own citizens as an expansionist warmonger, with no care for peace or even israeli lives. Many say his fear is that when the war stops he would be charged with war crimes.

                                War crimes…. the justice system of the world doesn't find that "peace loving people" are guilty of war crimes. Governments of the western world have come out in a majority condemning israel…. but those unfortunate countries with political systems massively corrupted by jewish lobby groups (primarily australia and the US) try to block the justice the rest of the world is demanding.

                                I'm done with conversation with you milk man. Your bias and motivation is exposed, and your justifications for israeli actions are a flakey facade.
                                Don't send me any more private messages.

              • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 06:11
                +5

                @The Milk Man: Bro you keep justifying one side while the other is constantly critiqued.

                That's called bias.

                You're looking at it from one side only.

                • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 07:07
                  +2

                  @Rick Sanchez: No, you're reading the messages from a biased POV.
                  that message was about wanting peace.

                  This war is about October 7th, yet another Palestinian initiated war, the same as all previous wars, fuelled by hatred towards the people who have as much right to be on the land that they are on as the Palestinians claim to be.

                  You say I'm biased while I'm talking about how peace is ideal.
                  You say I'm biased while I talk about coexistence.

                  What we have right now is the result of constant hostility ans aggression, it did not come to be out of nowhere. Today is the result of poor decisions made by generations of Palestinians, instead of Peace, war.
                  And they can't seem to win any of them.

          • niknikniknik on 05/10/2024 - 15:53
            -1

            @The Milk Man: People seem to think history started in 1947, it's bizarre. There is no argument to suggest Palestinians are any more 'native' to the land than Jews.

  • abc on 04/10/2024 - 21:26
    +12

    I think this belongs in the forums. What's next Oznewsbargain?

    • zealmax on 04/10/2024 - 21:31
      +2

      Targeted?

    • OzzyBrak on 04/10/2024 - 21:53
      +2

      I agree. What sort of individual is actively in Lebanon during this period and instead of fleeing they jump on ozbargain to see if eneloops or oled tvs are on sale in Australia.

      • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 05:32

        Actually, that's a pretty good reason. Wouldn't want to miss out.

  • AsukaST on 04/10/2024 - 21:29
    +17

    They were warned to leave Lebanon by our gov since early 2024.
    And they chose to stay.
    It's not an unpredictable earthquake or tsunami.
    why are we taxpayers paying for their bills now?

    Two days ago a partner of an Australian plead for help on a 7 news interview because her husband is stuck in there.
    The interview was done in Sydney, but this female speaks in a foreign language.
    I wonder why we should pay for his ticket when she can't even speak in English?

    Deport all the pro-Hezbollah protesters from our land first, then we will talk.

    • Randolph Duke on 04/10/2024 - 21:34
      +22

      I wonder why we should pay for his ticket when she can't even speak in English?

      One simple sentence tells so much.

        • mr_asstight on 04/10/2024 - 21:41
          +4

          When your country cares more for outsiders then it's own it's a real problem. The West does this openly

          • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 21:42
            -3

            @mr_asstight: Consider Germany, France and the UK, cultures demolished and wiped out in the name of fake empathy, "volunerable" figures made the locals the volunerable demographic, cry about ethnic cleansing 😂

          • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 22:07
            +2

            @mr_asstight: The US is an interesting example, where it spends far more per capita on grants to israel than it does its own citizens.
            And quite openly, reporting over $300 Billion dollars in US aid to israel, while israel has grown from less than 2 million citizens to its current size.

            • DogGunn on 04/10/2024 - 22:23

              @rooster7777: Grants being military aid? Yeah I would hope they would spend more money on military aid in a foreign country then their own. Would make no sense otherwise.

              • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 23:00

                @DogGunn: Military and direct financial aid…. but…. let's think about this.

                Military aid is US government funds spent making military equipment, then given to external countries (with israel the biggest benefactor by a huge margin).

                So are you hoping that the US spends more government money making and sending equipment to other countries, rather than equipping itself…. or are you hoping the US spends more on israel per capita than its own people in non military matters?

                Neither of those options make much sense to me, but it seems one of them does to you… could you clarify?

                • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 23:27
                  +2

                  @rooster7777: Are you surprised a nation of like minded people support the like minded nation they believe should thrive and survive?

                  I haven't seen you criticise Iran for fu ding Hezbollah, but why didn't you my man?
                  all the billions of dollars of rockets, terror infrastructure, instead of thriving to Iranian Persian economy?

                  can you explain how is that not a concern for you but only when a country supports israel it really, really bothers you?

                • DogGunn on 05/10/2024 - 03:33

                  @rooster7777: Israel gets very minimal direct financial aid.

                  I'm not sure about the rest of your drivel.

            • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 22:39
              +3

              @rooster7777: from 2 to 10 is impressive? are you able to recognise that of those 10 to 11 million in population
              this, this patriarchal country has 2,000,000 Arabs with full civil equal rights live and prosper in relative coexistence?

              name another country that has that going on for it in the region?

              • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 22:55
                +3

                @The Milk Man: Dunno how you can call "full civil equal rights" when more than 2 million palestinians under the rule of israel can't vote, stand for parliament, move freely within their own lands let alone israel, have their own country which was a condition for the establishment of israel, have full status at the UN, and a whole lot more.

                The 20 thousand jews in that area in the 1920s became 2 million after the massive influx of jews from across the world just post WW2…. and israel has been hoovering up jews from across the world since then. As a result of that rapidly swelling population, israel has been illegally occupying and settling land that is not theirs, acknowledged as breaching international law.

                Many australians (including myself) support ukraine in its resistance against russian occupation in the current conflict of up to a decade…. but ukraine is far better supported and able to defend its citizens than the generations of palestinians under harsh occupation for over 70 years.

                Do you understand that the australians can't live in the "patricarchal country" of israel unless they are jews, or under certain conditions, married to jews?

                It's bizarre how many citizens of the western world decry non secular countries (countries that have and encourage one religion), mainly arab countries…. but one of the most clear examples of secular countries is israel.

                It's popular among many australians to be "anti muslim"… when israel is a far more alien country in terms of rigid religion.

                • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 23:00
                  +1

                  @rooster7777: do you understand Australia doesn't grant citizenship either, and doesn't matter what race of ethnicity you are unless you can prove of your relationship to an Australian or greatly benefit the Australian culture and way of living?

                  So how is that different than israel hoping to maintain its identity as a Jewish state for the Jewish people? or is 70 odd Arab, Muslim led countries aren't enough of a choice for a bunch of cry babies demanding 20 square kilometres because they MUSTTTTTTTT MUSTTTTTTTT MUST LIVE THERE OR ELSE THEY'LL DIE RUGJT NOW

                  do you csre that Egypt doesn't let Gazans in and out? do you care that Israel supplied jobs, free electricity and free water supply to Gaza?
                  allowed funding and infrastructure that was ultimately used against it?

                  Israeli rule?
                  Israel has no say on Gaza. Israel only has a say in its borders. Is it okay the USA doesn't allow Mexican migrants? or is it also oppression?
                  why csnt I swim into Australia? why are you oppressing me???? 🥺🥺🥺🥺

                  bro your comments nothing but repeated ignorance, lacking common sense, filled with unexplained hatred.

                  • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 23:43
                    +6

                    @The Milk Man: Your true colours are starting to show. Australia doesn't grant citizenship dependent on religious beliefs or ethnicity.

                    Israel isn't trying to maintain a jewish state…. it's devoting a large amount of its resources to expanding its state into other lands.

                    Describing people under occupation as cry babies because they must live there…. when there are few other options for them to exist…. turns your image very rapidly from the benevolent image of "the milk man" into a nutter with a vile outlook.

                    Do I care that israel both blocked essential food shipments to starving people with its military…. and when that got a bit hot politically, facilitated its european settler jews to do the blocking while the military watched? Yes I do…. that's a war crime.

                    With all the things you have written on the subject, to then say that israel has no say on gaza and only a say on its borders…. demonstrates you must know you are writing a false narrative.

                    I'm not your "bro"… and clearly nothing like you morally… I can and have discussed without losing it, and the only unexplained hatred is in your posts.

                    • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 23:45
                      +2

                      @rooster7777: hatred in my posts?
                      hatred towards who lil bro? ☠️☠️☠️

                      Disagreeing with you is hate?

                      You read and respond to the things you please. you yet again portray my opinion of you how you contour the narrative to your wishes. you refuse to address my points, you only recite the "wah wah they took my wah they ate my wah"

                      • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:15
                        +2

                        @The Milk Man: In the heat of the moment you seem to have forgotten it was you that introduced the word"

                        "bro your comments nothing but repeated ignorance, lacking common sense, filled with unexplained hatred"

                        • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 00:16

                          @rooster7777: what are you trying to say lol
                          i don't have to respect you, but this is not hatred.

                          • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:32

                            @The Milk Man: "your comments nothing but repeated ignorance, lacking common sense, filled with unexplained hatred"
                            do I have to sit next to you and point out each word?

          • Tech5 on 04/10/2024 - 23:24
            +5

            @mr_asstight: Australia 2022
            Australia's own health system- 105.6 billion
            Australia's own education system- 44.8 billion
            Australia's own social welfare system- 221.7 billion
            Australia's own public services- 26.5 billion
            Australia's own defence- 38.3 billion.

            Australia foreign aid budget- 4.9 billion.

            So when you say we care more for outsiders than our own, what are you basing this statement on?
            Facts? Numbers? Budgets? Emotion? Facebook "research"? Your mate bob with a mullet, a year 10 education and a diploma in beating his wife?

            Lol

      • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 05:32
        -1

        Don't forget "this female" lol. What a tool.

    • lachlantula on 04/10/2024 - 21:35
      +5

      They were warned to leave Lebanon by our gov since early 2024

      surely this won't be a biased/bigoted comment and this is the extent of their reasoning to not be in favour of this

      I wonder why we should pay for his ticket when she can't even speak in English?

      oh

      Deport all the pro-Hezbollah protesters from our land first, then we will talk.

      nevermind

    • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 21:56
      +10

      I'd like to see all the zionists and jewish lobby groups that buy/corrupt the australian political system deported… unfortunately not much chance of that!

      • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 23:34
        +1

        to read your hateful comments
        to read your disgusting hateful nature

        it's always a far leftist with the nastiest mouth, you never see a person who's open for dialogue and peace speak like that.

        Your way or the highway, you're forever the victim of your own mouth and ideology.

        There'll never be peace as long as people like you roam this earth.
        full of ignorance and hatred.

        • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 23:48
          +5

          what are my hateful comments… and how has my disgusting hateful nature manifested itself?

          If you're responding to my post directly above…. that would mean that you dispute that the zionist/ jewish lobby has a political influence far greater than its population should reflect. Care to elaborate?

          You should look in a mirror and contemplate ignorance and hatred.

          • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 23:49
            +2

            @rooster7777: "Jews" "Zionists" "your synagogue" "lobbying Zionists"

            are not terms you've used in a hateful manner to portray and generlize a group of people you've disagreed with based on a conflict you are biased towards?

            • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:20
              +4

              @The Milk Man: No… they are terms of used in appropriate context in putting out facts.

              The first two are obvious terms…. nothing to discuss there…. jews in fact are jews, zionist are in fact zionists.

              "your synagogue" was used in the direct context of known fact ….even though I didn't clarify.
              Perhaps you're not aware that it's documented that some synagogues in america have had events spruking real estate sales of occupied lands in palestine.

              If you aren't aware of the power and frequency of jewish/zionist groups in australia attempting to influence events in the public forum, or political decisions by government…. you would be living in a stifling cocoon. Would you like a litany of examples? Perhaps you'd like to proudly list them yourself?

              • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 00:23
                +3

                @rooster7777: According to a google search, itty bitty one, Muslims make 25% of the world's population.
                People of Jewish faith make 0.2% of the world's population.

                Are they really that helpless?
                are the 29.2% of the world population that are Christian really bent down to the almighty wizardy that is judaism, or are you acting delulu?

                • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:35
                  -1

                  @The Milk Man: Thanks for those stats…. do you have any for the US as well?
                  That jews make up only .2% of the world's population, but have such a massive influence on governments of the western world highlight my point.
                  Or don't you think the jewish lobby has any influence over US politicians? If you say no, you'll be clarifying your wisdom to any student of politics!

                  • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 00:36
                    +4

                    @rooster7777: maybe they are just good at making good, important, calculated decisions that benefit the general good
                    so people tend to give their opinion more matter

                    rather than

                    "kill that woman she has her hair exposed" ? :/

                    • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:48
                      +1

                      @The Milk Man: Yeah….good one milkman! The jewish lobby exists for the common good of the general population.
                      In the right context, that would be a great line for a comedian.

                      And we were talking about political pressure on western world governments and major institutions… "kill that woman she has her hair exposed" is a ridiculous comment in the context.

                    • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 05:35
                      -1

                      @The Milk Man: Notice how in your example the Jewish person is always well intentioned, and the Arab one is always an aggressor?

                      Check your bias.

                      • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 07:33
                        +2

                        @Rick Sanchez: show me humanitarian aid by countries in the middle east that isn't about Palestine or the Palestinian war, and I will show you how israel and Jewish organisations provided aid and supported humanity through time and we'll just compare? 🙏

          • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 23:50
            +1

            @rooster7777: no cutie, my impatience towards you is not hatred or ignorance

            hatred and ignorance is to generlize people down to your narrative of their way of life.

            my way is humans first, your ideology 2nd. you cannot look past your ideology. you're a failed human my man, you are selfish.

            • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:23
              +3

              @The Milk Man: When in the course of discussion or debate, someone calls another "cutie" "bro" and whatever the other one was…. you look like you've lost the ability to talk about the subject, and you've sunk to playing the man.

              Your way is clearly not "humans first", when you are contemptuous of the human suffering of massive numbers of civilians, and introduce the possibility of israel using nuclear weapons to solve conflict.

              • The Milk Man on 05/10/2024 - 00:25
                +1

                @rooster7777: its okay for israeli, jewish population to suffer but not if they're arab and muslim, you're so right
                my bad……… cutie.

                Sorry to learn about your short temper :(
                its a shame words yet again derailed you and defeated you.

                • rooster7777 on 05/10/2024 - 00:44
                  +4

                  @The Milk Man: Jews suffered great angst and wrongs in WW2. Jews have suffered great unpopularity across some parts of the world during some parts of history, which puzzles me as I don't know why. I do know there was some flack from royalty because of moneylending and difficult debts, but that's not the general population.

                  I do understand why contemporary people may have great distaste for the actions of israel.

                  Where's the short temper bit come from? Did I say something to indicate anger?

                  As far as derailed and defeated me…. I welcome you coming up with factual information to make me think I should change my outlook…. but you're a long long way from that with your current efforts. Perhaps a poor choice of words, because it's not a debate to me about a position that doesn't matter… it's a passionate belief in man's inhumanity to man in the world I live in.

                  OH…and PS… don't send me private messages. If you have anything factually relevant to say, write it here. Clearly we're not interacting on a social level.

    • ozbargain2019 on 04/10/2024 - 22:40
      +1

      You’re a cockhead

      • rooster7777 on 04/10/2024 - 22:56

        I wonder if you don't care to understand and educate yourself about world affairs…. or if you have, and are simply dispassionate about genocide supported by western nations.

    • Jamie777 on 04/10/2024 - 23:08
      +2

      Because AU gov will do same thing when you are in the same situation in other country. No matter what Au citizens are our mates and we have to do the right thing.

    • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 05:42
      -1

      Firstly, realise that these are Australians. As Australian as you and I are. No less.

      What's wrong with having poor English in Australia? Immigrants built this country.

      So you didn't like this woman on the news and are angry about the pro hezbollah idiots. You do realise they don't speak for the other Australians stranded in Lebanon?

      I wish we could deport you. Seriously, these simplistic, racist takes are taking our country into the gutter. We'd be better without you.

  • cheaponos on 04/10/2024 - 21:41
    +11

    This belongs in the forum

    • adam7070 on 04/10/2024 - 23:40
      -1

      This belongs in the forum 🤓👆

      • cheaponos on 05/10/2024 - 01:57
        +1

        This belongs in the forum

        • adam7070 on 05/10/2024 - 22:07

          Who cares.

  • payton on 04/10/2024 - 21:45
    +2

    All the world's foremost tunneling experts living amongst them and they haven't thought about all the free real estate down there

    • The Milk Man on 04/10/2024 - 21:49
      -3

      their underground housing keeps getting blown to pieces by the IDF :(
      Not very structurally sound, maybe Iran should fund their practical skills to boom their economy and make them a world class exports specialist of middle eastern culture?

      nah, that'll be too vanilla, nvm :(

    • inamberclad on 04/10/2024 - 21:50

      NSW state govt should've contracted M8 works to them

      • abc on 04/10/2024 - 22:01
        +4

        Minns is too busy getting into foreign policy to cover up his public sector job cuts and refusal to increase wages to cover the cost of inflation.

  • plmko on 04/10/2024 - 21:47
    +3

    Hilarious how many choose this as the hill to die on because "oH noEs HoW DarE ThEY uSe Tax pAyer MoNey tOS aVe dUmB peoPle"

    Probably costs them $5million dollars tops. Just chump change they've made in profits selling weapons to fuel these wars to begin with.

    The millions would've been sucked up by a NDIS scammer or to co-fund some retirement village to scam a boomer into a reverse equity scheme anyway.

    You're pissing in the wind really.

    • lachlantula on 04/10/2024 - 21:49
      -2

      it's not actually about the money for the majority of these people - it's just a convenient mask that allows them to justify their much uglier private beliefs in public. dogwhistling.

      • Rick Sanchez on 05/10/2024 - 05:45
        +2

        As shown by the comments, some are too dumb to dogwhistle. Closer to barking.

  • Herbse on 04/10/2024 - 21:51
    +4

    Targetted?

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