Part of eBay Tuesday sales. Coupon code required.
Cheaper than this very popular deal posted last month.
Enjoy :)
Note that rumors are pointing to the MPB refresh next month will get 16GB as the base.
I'd expect MBA to follow early next year with the MBA refresh (or maybe some weird ram size like 12).
Apple seem to be finally accepting there's a problem.
The main reason behind that will likely be for the new Ai features that they'll want to peddle in order to keep up with Winblows may require more ram to do what it needs to, so i'd say there's high confidence they will up the base RAM on entry level models, but also they'll probably start on higher price points and make the previous models "lower" price entry models (which is what they mostly do now anyway).
Apple seem to be finally accepting there's a problem
Correction: Apple seems to have realised the opportunity for increasing prices by doing this.
I've never owned a mac, nor likely will. But my partner plays wow on an 8gb air and it works perfectly fine. If a laptop can play wow with the installed memory, chances are it's actually plenty for a large portion of the user base.
Yeah that’s not how it works.
Playing a single low end game isn’t the benchmark for most use cases.
@PainToad: Wow is going to be significantly more demanding than some Web browsing and a word document. There is no way light web/office/email work - ie entry level work, on the most entry level device they have - is more demanding than light/moderate gaming.
That's exactly how it works.
@incipient: “Demanding” is very vague. Running WoW is going to be more GPU intensive.
But we’re talking about ram.
Chrome with a bunch of tabs, Word, Outlook, Excel, Spotify, Slack etc. all running at once could easily use more ram than a single old video game.
@PainToad: The air only has unified memory, so its vram+ram combined here, that still runs fine on the air.
Word, outlook, excel are all native apps so use 200mb or so of ram each (for the vast majority of use cases - keeping in mind this is the most entry level device, so it's home use).
I currently have 48 tabs open and Edge (chromium) is using 1.7gb of ram under windows (the air shouldn't be materially different). This is 'normal use' so a few of those tabs would be asleep.
vram+ram combined for game usage is going to far and away exceed the 3gb or so above.
if vram+ram fits for a modern-ish game (wow has absolutely been updated with new graphics) then a few browser tabs and a word document is going to work perfectly fine.
This is probably technical enough for now.
If anyone has the money to buy the 16gb mac, sure it has more headroom. but the 8gb model does run surprisingly well.
@PainToad: It does i use 16gig on my work laptop for what you just listed as a base it can go up if i run anything outside of what you listed (like Teams in a meeting which is a pig of an app)
@idonotknowwhy: vram+ram. 48 tabs in edge are using 1.7gb of ram for me (on windows, mac should be similar if not better).
The minumum spec is 3GB of vram for wow - sure it'd run below that too I'm sure. but not by much - then add on normal application memory.
@incipient: Stop comparing apples to oranges. Unified memory or not, the memory usage of a single game has zero relevance to the everyday multitasking workflow of a user. Your argument makes no sense.
48 tabs in edge are using 1.7gb of ram for me
And? 48 tabs of simple HTML will use little memory. It’s what’s actually being rendered on those tabs that matter.
@PainToad: That's ok, if you aren't comfortable with an 8gb laptop, then I would suggest you buy a 16gb one! Being comfortable with your device is arguably more important than anything😊
I have had plenty of people insist on a $2k office laptop and have not regretted it a single day…and really, that's what matters at the end of the day!
whats the best available price on the 512gb 16gb ram m2?
Oh is that the case…
Didn't know ty for that.
Atm I'm tryna get a m1 macbook for like $650 or less if posisble somehow ideally w good battery life still
This M2 needs to come down close to $1k. Hope this year black Friday sale will be bigger than last year
Not this color, fingerprint everywhere
Can confirm.
i don't even know what i just read :| … bit harsh people negging but yeh not sure if Ai wrote that comment for you lol
LLMs tend to be more coherent than that.
true, unless he got the LLM to the hallucination point before asking it to write this comment for him… lol
He must have repetition penalty and temperature set too high
Even the AI didn't seem to understand it lol
The size of the screen matters a great deal in terms of user experience. At 33cm, the screen is on the smaller side compared to the large 69-81cm 4K displays many people are accustomed to these days for viewing content. Of course, larger screen sizes tend to come at a premium price point.
We're now in the age of 3-fold screens that pack a lot of real estate into a highly portable device - think along the lines of an unfolded Huawei Mate XT, but with the added benefit of high-end cameras, phone calling capabilities and nice touchscreen functionality. So while a small screen may meet your needs just fine, it's worth considering the alternatives and opportunity costs. Of course, in the pre-AI era, any display is achievable as long as it fits your specific usage requirements.
If it fits your needs it's all good in the pre-AI age.
This post is certainly the worst parts of the AI age.
LOL, just checked @taki's post history, constantly posts about Apple, even on deals for cars. Apple getting that rent free living.
Typically we get the spec sheet for their 6th gen intel desktop or a Samsung phone. There's another comment somewhere where they claim to be a visionary.
Yes because mobile phones and laptops are for the exact same purposes. Also that Huawei phone you're referring to costs at least double the price of this laptop.
Can this be price matched at OW?
I hope they do, but usually they don't much codes.
Can I video edit with 256gb?
You shouldn't be asking about storage, you should be asking about RAM. 8GB won't be pretty.
Isn't it considered the norm to edit off external SSDs nowadays anyway?
Can I video edit with 256gb?
And really only you can answer that question, we don't know what type of footage you're working with.
I'd be looking at 16GB RAM and an external SSD drive as a bare minimum for Final Cut Pro (if editing 4k etc)
I edit 1080p footage on mine all the time with 8gb of memory. I mainly use Resolve which is awesome on Apple silicon these days. I’ve done a bit of 4k stuff without issue but it was more just cutting and pasting rather than adding in effects and titles etc. I’m not sure how it would cope with complex video editing in 4k.
M4’s incoming - could drop further in price.
Rookie mistake. You should wait for the M5 for even bigger reductions.
Smart man. I’m still rocking iPhone 1 as waiting for iPhone 22.
hopefully a 512gb with16gb ram m2 or m3 in this price range is what will get me to buy one (by end of year)
Insert 8GB ram comment here. Also with the M2 Series, the 256gb SSD is running at half of the speed of the M1 and M3 series, which affects how well it does its caching and potential longevity as well. It's not a good buy even for a casual laptop.