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MG HS PLUS EV Excite (Plug-In Hybrid) MY22 from $34,990 Driveaway (Was $45,229) @ MG Motor Australia

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The MG HS PLUS EV has entered runout with the Excite model now on sale for $34,990 driveaway (save approx $11,000 and over 20%). The Essence model is also on sale for $37,990 with similar savings.

These as plug-in hybrid models with a fairly small electric range of 63km, but good fuel economy of just 1.7L/100km. Performance of 119kW, 250Nm and 0-100km/h in 6.9s.

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          • +1

            @bargaino: What type of car can't catch fire is like asking what sort of power cord can't kill you. Any can, but very few do… unless they're lithium ION powered EVs.

            ICE vehicles catch fire, but at an hugely lower rate than lithium ION EVs.

            Lithium IRON (LiFePO4) powered EVs probably catch fire, but I'd like to hear people post of any incidents… their fireball ability is hugely less than lithium ion batteries featuring manganese or cobalt etc cathode batteries.

            It makes sense to ban dangerous battery types, not fast chargers.

            (while LiFePO4 batteries have a bit less energy density capability than the fireball varieties, their ability to accept full charge a lot more quickly, and their increased number of charge/ discharge cycles bring a positive aspect)

            • @rooster7777: All cars are a fire risk, and so underground carparks are designed with this in mind.
              It would only make sense to ban EVs if they are a much higher risk than average. Which ones are? Yes phoshate batteries are safer (and other advantages), but Li-Ion from Tesla and BYD have a good record.

            • @rooster7777:

              ICE vehicles catch fire, but at an hugely lower rate than lithium ION EVs.

              Absolutely false. Current statistics show that ICE vehicles are ~20x more likely to catch fire than EVs, on a per 100,000 cars basis.

    • The same thing happened with flat screen TVs, everyone who bought one early on was shafted but that is how it goes.

      BUT in this case there is more than one dynamic going on.

      There is technological change with cheaper technologies rapidly evolving.

      Then there is the emergence of China as the dominant car manufacturer with vast mass production which is pushing down prices.

      Legacy auto is doomed without tariffs and other protections.

    • +1

      The resale value of these Chinese brands was always known to be poor. Anybody buying a vehicle on the presumption of resale value needs to rethink why they're buying a vehicle.

  • +7

    You MUST use 95 fuel in this car.

    Nobody buying an MG would ever put 95 fuel in thier car. I'd say people who buy MG cars are using e10 or 91 IF your lucky that is.

    • -8

      Yeah hard ask for a budget car. Meanwhile I'm putting 91 in my BMW X1.

      • +30

        X1 also budget car my friend

          • +13

            @C1de: You can put a dress and some lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig.

            • @Rochie: You could get locked up for that… or are you in NZ?

          • +2

            @C1de: Friend in need is a friend indeed

          • +1

            @C1de: Don't call me mate, mate!!

        • +6

          It's for two bob snobs. Gotta have that badge, nevermind how terrible the car is.

        • +1

          latest iteration is a step up, but still car for losers imo. real X series starts from X3 - X4

          X1 is just 1 series in disguise

          X3 is the real X vehicle. X4 is for those who like sportbacks ("I didn't need that much boot space anyway"), X5 is "I couldn't afford an X7", X6 is "I couldn't afford an X7 but I like to boast about it", and X7 is "OMG how do I park this here" and "no one really needs 2 kidneys anyway"

          and no one cares about X2, BMW don't know what to do with it and often deny it even exists

      • +5

        Yuck, an X1

    • Well I mean the E10 around my area is 94.

      • -2

        It's not for performance reasons it's emissions. 95 has fewer pollutants than 91/E10 in Australia

        • +2

          I'm pretty sure E10 is the cleanest fuel out of the three mentioned…. that shit has up to 10% ethanol in it. And the RON number shouldn't affect the level of pollutants in it either.

        • +1

          @Keplaffintech

          what?

        • What hahaha

        • +2

          @Keplaffintech

          I rolled my eyes at "fewer pollutants", but did the research.

          "By December 15, 2024, all petrol at Australian service stations will have a maximum sulfur level of 10 parts per million. This applies to 91 RON, 95 RON, 98 RON and E85 unleaded fuel".

          At first I laughed… but I stand corrected, that prior to december 15 2024, 91 RON fuel was permitted to have a lot more sulphur content than premium fuel.
          I stand corrected thanks. It's coincidence that I'll be right come december 15.

          Whether the MG fuel octane rating is based on this is a question of a different day….

          • +1

            @rooster7777:

            I rolled my eyes at "fewer pollutants", but did the research.

            "By December 15, 2024

            but I stand corrected, that prior to december 15 2024

            It's coincidence that I'll be right come december 15.

            Your research didn't pickup that the changes are actually from December 2025.

          • @rooster7777: all good, I also laughed at this fact once on ozb and was corrected by someone.

      • +2

        @ Bignudge
        some idiot negged you for a wise comment…. so I lifted you back up

        • Thank you my dude! Upvoted yours too!

    • What happens sifbyou put 91

      • Go boom

        • bollocks

          • @rooster7777: Go boom boom boom

            • @TEER3X: you know nothing about mechanics… what do you know about?

              • +1

                @rooster7777: I know mechanics are dirty. What do you know about?

                • @TEER3X: That you don't know much about mechanics or engines…that's one of the things I know about.

                  • @rooster7777: What's your fascination with mechanics? Did you want to date one or something? I tend not to delve too much into their personal lives but each to their own.

                    I don't recall ever professing that I'm an engine expert. I know how to change the oil and follow manufacturer recommendations, but that's about it.

                    I do have a sense of humour though, what about you? Do you like long walks along the beach?

                    • @TEER3X: What's my fascination about mechanics? More of a necessity really… if you don't keep it running or fix it, it doesn't work. So… one of life's skills.

                      You're clearly not an engine expert, but you couldn't resist your boom boom comments about running 91 fuel. My response wasn't really to educate you, it was more about letting others know not to listen to this person that knows fork oil.

                      If you reckon giving people bad advice is "having a sense of humour"… it's best people know how silly you are.

                      The dogs like long walks along the beach, the mrs likes long walks along the beach… me… I partake at times to keep the peace.

            • +1

              @TEER3X: Let's go back to my room

            • @TEER3X: Don't threaten me with a good time.

      • a bit less power, as the engine computer will retard ignition timing to avoid engine knock…. and a bit less damage to your wallet

    • A lot of people put 95-98 in their MGs out of preference, even in the lowest models that say 91+.
      The larger models state a minimum of 95, and I think the more recent smaller ones, MY23+, also state minimum 95 now.
      Not saying everyone listens and quite a few people have found no reasonable difference in performance/mileage in their situation.

      • insanity! Do the same people fill their tyres with helium…. their wiper reservoir with champagne…. their engines with saffron sprinkled oil?
        Some folks have more money than brains.

      • -1

        Stop making up facts. Who are " Alot of people"

        • +1

          "Nobody buying an MG would ever put 95 fuel in thier car. I'd say people who buy MG cars are using e10 or 91 IF your lucky that is."

          Who is "Nobody"..?

          Seems like you have made up your own naive facts.

          Imbecile.

    • +1

      Yes, I've been saying this for ages.

      After just a couple of years, you make your back on a Kia because you can put in 91/E10, but most MGs require 95.

      That's assuming you drive the Australian average 13,000km pa. If one parent has a Ford Ranger for work and taking the family out on weekends, and this MG is a second car for the other parent to drop the kid to school and grab groceries during the week, then it's an awesome deal.

      • +1

        If you keep the battery fully charged, you're not going to be using much petrol at all. 95 is what the manufacturer suggests, stick with that.

        • More words from a fool who agrees he knows nothing much about mechanics, freely giving out bad advice….. he thinks such things are "displaying a sense of humour."

    • According to the NSW Government E10 compatibility check website, the HS PHEV 1.5 Litre Hybrid T/ Engine, 10-Spd Auto is E10 compatible, but the HS 1.5 Litre Turbo Engine, 7-Spd DCT is not.

      Also just went on the MG website chat:

      "Hi I am interested in buying a MG HS and I would like to know whether I need to use Premium 95 fuel or whether E10 fuel is OK?

      Hi! This is Arya. I'd be happy to check my resources for this. While doing so, would it be possible to ask for your full name, please?
      Arya
      Nice to have you here.
      The MG HS is compatible with E10 fuel, which is a more economical option. However, using Premium 95 may enhance performance.
      Would you like to schedule a test-drive to see how this vehicle performs on the road"

  • +2

    Hodl ?

  • Oh no.

  • +2

    With all these chinese price reductions you'd have to think it's also going to impact the competition at some point.

  • +2

    electric range of 63km,

    After one year what is the range

    • +1

      59km

    • +2

      63km if you didn’t drive it

  • If driving up a steep hill what will this be able to get up to?

    • +15

      probably the top

  • +2

    Models on sale are 2022 year batches. Manufactured 2years back??

    • Wow, that's no good production ( no pun intended) :)

    • +2

      That's a good pick up. Battery would have degraded a little bit too.

  • +1

    Will be under 30k by end of year as it will be a my23 model still

  • +4

    How come this model isn't listed on Redbook?

    Also, halogen headlights. lol.

    • +4

      It's to warm up the road in case there's snow

    • +3

      I know people poo poo this, but I don't think halogen are that bad.

      For starters, you can always replace them with better halogens or even LED globes if you're willing to run the RWC gauntlet

      Secondly, replacing the LEDS in a modern can cost over a thousand. Replacing the halogen globes, even with LEDs will cost <$100

  • Nice looking body on this car imo.

  • +1

    One thing to beware of with any PHEV is future taxation. There was already a plan (now defeated) to tax PHEVs at 2c/km while EVs get a 2.5c tax. As this vehicle drives on petrol most of the time that means double taxation.

    It's unknown whether this tax or something similar like it will be revived.

    • -6

      I hope so. Everyone should be paying their fair share.

      • +7

        I agree, and that includes paying for the polluting smog coming out of the exhaust pipes and into our lungs…

    • Is that because they're heavier?

      • +1

        It's because the electric driving doesn't pay the fuel excise which is meant to cover road usage maintenance

        • I realise they can't do much about private charging, but I would've thought that's factored in when using public charging stations?

          • @Shenannigoat: It's not.

            The easiest way to recoup for pure EVs would be a tax based on odometer readings at rego time.

            Much more difficult for PHEVs, who might get screwed from each side, and effectively double taxed if most of their driving was beyond the range of their batteries.

            • @Gorby: There is simpler method. Every household with EV plan add on should be taxed on a per kW basis. And those drawing over 1.3 kW daily and not on EV add on plan should be audit with state rego and taxed accordingly.

              This will be make it fairer wit PHEV owners

              • +1

                @ChickenAdobo: What? How is that remotely simpler than odometer readings for pure EVs?

                No if I have an EV all my non-EV electricity should not be more expensive.

                The actual simplest would be scrap (or revise) fuel excise and switch to odometer road usage charges for all vehicles.

                • @Gorby: The countless public servants that would be involved in such a scheme would thank you!

                  ie… a lot of regulatory cost in such a scheme.

              • @ChickenAdobo: Jokes on you I'm off grid with batteries

  • Seems good value,Any comparable same size plug-in model?

  • +2

    My colleague bought a demo with 10k mileage for 31k 3 months ago. This car does not retain value

    • +3

      Aren't all EV's dropping in price though? Except maybe Toyota plug in hybrids.

    • -7

      I think you mean kilometreage. We don't use miles in this country, what do you think this is England?

      • +3

        it seems you live on the south coast of pedantry. Probably near Point Obtuse.

        • There are too many words in this sentence I don't understand. This is ozbargain, not ozgenius.

          I'm a very stable genius.

    • a demo with 10k mileage

      Is that 16,000km ? I use the word mileage too, but when you add a number without units, it becomes unclear.

      • +1

        I reckon they've done 10,000 miles in it

  • +5

    6.9 seconds - nice.

    • premium fuel price loading….nice?

  • +7

    Yep made in Australia is better just look at the current state of houses being built /s

  • A hybrid… running premium fuel? When engineers and marketers design something by committee! How silly can they be!

    • Premium fuel is normally required by manufacturers due to the high sulfur content in our 91 fuel. Once our 91 fuel standards are brought into line with the rest of the world, you should be able to use 91 in most cars that require premium today.

  • Is it a great choice for Uber drivers or Amazon delivery?

    • +3

      PHEV's wouldn't be good for that if fuel economy is your main focus… once the electric range runs out the anemic ICE would actually use a lot more fuel to lug the weight including the passenger and load of deliveries …

      (assuming it's a serious question lol)

  • That warranty would want to be pretty robust.
    I think hybrid is a big ask for a brand without a proven reliability record. Hybrid adds so many more moving parts to go wrong

    • -5

      Apparently hybrids are less complicated than ice because there's a lot of unnecessary components being removed, so they are in fact more robust.

      • +1

        I think that would relate to EVs. Hybrids have a full ICE plus all the components of electric power plus a gearbox blending the two plus all the sensors and servos
        More bits to break

        • -1

          I understand the argument for PHEV reliability is that the ICE components are far less stressed than in conventional petrol vehicles. They can just put along in their optimal rev range charging the battery which delivers the needed power. Not sure how that plays out in reality, but it's the theory.

          • +1

            @Gorby: There would be many factors at play. Its generally accepted that most ICE engine wear ocurrs at start up due to no oil pressure and cold metals. So I would think cuttng in and out would add some wear. Guess time will tell

          • +1

            @Gorby: I believe the US had a study where hybrids were more reliable than both ice and ev, though not sure which was 2nd and 3rd.
            I think Toyota had a large share of the hybrid market too so that probably swayed the ranking between drive types.

          • -1

            @Gorby: Plug In hybrid…is charged from an external power source….not itself.
            to clear up, from the horse's mouth……

            PHEV's need to be charged via a plug in cable, whereas self-charging hybrids can recharge their batteries by regenerative braking and using the combustion engine. MG UK
            (google search- does an MG HS PLUS EV charge its own battery?)

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