Source: https://karryon.com.au/industry-news/airline/airasia-x-1st-f…
I managed to find return fares for $1200 from the Australian East Coast. The next closest price was $2000+ but with an additional transit point, otherwise its $3000+ for a one-stop itinerary.
Haven't been to Africa but would like to tick it off the travel bucket list someday. Maybe better now than never?
Sounds fun.
The bill has been defeated. It should be over, right?
According to ChatGPT:
Nairobi and Kenya offer a variety of attractions and activities for visitors. Here are some highlights:
Kenya offers a rich blend of wildlife, culture, adventure, and relaxation, making it a diverse and exciting destination.
Currently sitting in Kenya outside the Nairobi national park. Plenty to see and do.
At the moment it's a bit dicey due to riots but if you're in a tourist spot like maasai Mara, you'll be a world away.
Come and visit this amazing country. The politicians are crooked, but the people are amazing!
Pretty good deal tbh to get to Africa on the cheap.
Sure, it's no $500 with Qantas points in biz class from Sydney to Johannesburg, but to get to East Africa it's a pretty viable option
Now that’s African deal!
Another option is to break up the trip via India. eg One way to Delhi then onwards to Nairobi etc.
Kenya get a direct flight to Delhi from the east coast?
wow to add on the value package (seat/meal/20kg( to each flight its $165 each way or approx $122 for 20kg luggage.
Don't buy a value package. Have your meals at the airport, buy the minimum amount of luggage you require and don't bother choosing a seat.
Great deal,Nairobi is the gateway to the greatest Game parks in Africa.
And Yes I have lived in Africa.
According to Smartraveller, https://www.smartraveller.gov.au/destinations/africa/kenya
Overall: Exercise a high degree of caution
Lmao, take those ratings with a pinch of salt and exercise your own caution.
A lot of work goes into warning Australians of legitimate dangers, for people like you to think they know better. The border with Somalia is porous, and al-Shabaab continues to pose a threat, with civilians regularly targeted.
I'm not saying you'll be hit, but your government, and the governments of the UK, US and most Western democracies invest significant resources, time, and develop long term relationships with local security authorities to try and provide pragmatic warnings to a populous who as a single entity may be completely ignorant of the theat. If your times up, it's up, but if it is then please make sure your loved ones know you were warned prior, laughed your 'AO' in your blindful ignorance and decided to quote take those warnings with a "take it with a pinch of salt".
With that said I hope your trip is uneventful. Again it's all a roll of the dice but it sux when you have to be involved in the clean up when things go wrong.
Yes you are correct in elements of terrorism, but like you said when times up times up. I've seen countries with similar threat warnings say e.g. it's not safe to travel when there was one isolated terrorist incident 15 years prior, and you shouldn't go to that region. Look, not to say it won't happen again ever but DYOR to the security situation as to what the factors are, before deciding to travel there.
I've done a fair bit of travelling and while I would never go to a country where there's a flat out Do Not Visit warning, or go to an active warzone etc etc, I think there is elements of overzealous warning to people out there, that seems over the top in some regards. End of the day, it's up to the traveller, and for the most part with common sense most travellers have an uneventful trip.
@adrianhughes1998: I'd ask honestly, specific to terrorism, are you up to date with the capability or intent of any of the miliant sunni jihadists groups in countries for example in South East Asia. Do you know how degraded the capability is, how well funded or resources they are? Do you know which members have received training in IED's, nor whether their methodology employs a primary or secondary attack pattern? Do you know of family links or external support of diaspora or firendlies who can support them operating outside of secure havens? Do you know of the capability or credibility of domestic security forces to accurately monitor and disrupt those groups before a mass casualty event? Do you know if they have attacked public transport, or engaged in extortion or kidnap for ransom activities. Do you know how much you will need to pay, or the areas where you are at risk of active monitoring?
My point is that within most of SEA that the Australia Government and others are going to a lot of effort day after day to obtain that information, and accurately disclose it in these warnings you so casually dismiss. They do it to save lives, often with the memory of 88 Australians who died in October 2002.
It's really easy to think you know all when you have absolutely no clue. As a traveller you will walk the streets of some town not really knowing of the undercurrent until its too late. When I was young I travelled to Egypt and missed the Luxor Massacre by a week. 62 died that day and most brutally at knifepoint. I assumed as a student that such a thing in at a major tourist attraction couldn't happen, but it did. Stupid me, as they hit the Egyptian Museum in Cairo not long before.
The thing is, the Govt cant be stupid as we frown upon it (and are accountable), so 99/100 they diligently do their job. When they warn you about something it has a strong basis of fact. It's not so you can brazenly L you AO. Whether you take that advice is 100% up to you as you are entitled to be stupid.
Again, it's fine to ignore the advice, but maybe don't laugh at it as you simply have no idea what you are on about.
And I'd suggest not bother replying, as it'll only get annoying for both of us if you try to save face etc. Learn the lesson and move on.
@downunderblue: Like I said, DYOR and if one is comfortable with the risks then go for it. I've been to countries in Africa and pored over the security research papers before travelling there. You missed the massacre by a week, but so did a lot of others. I missed fatal stabbings at a bus station here in Perth by an hour, but so could a lot of others say the same thing.
Risk versus reward. Paranoia vs pragmatic. The list could go on and on.
Sure, the government does their detailed information-gathering, but you are also not in the clear by just labelling what the government labels it, in the hopes it will deter visitors by flashing the warning signs.
DYOR at the end of the day.
Yowza…
That's a lot of communicable diseases for one spot haha
Malaria is widespread, except in Nairobi and places higher than 2500 meters above sea level. Consider taking anti-malarial medication. Other insect-borne diseases including dengue, Rift Valley fever, filariasis and African sleeping sickness are common. Ensure your accommodation is insect-proof. Use insect repellent.
Yellow Fever is widespread. Get Vaccinated before you travel and bring your vaccination certificate with you.
HIV/AIDS infection rates are high. Take precautions if you're taking part in high-risk activities.
You may be exposed to foodborne, waterborne and other infectious diseases include hepatitis, meningococcal disease, measles and cholera. Drink only boiled or bottled water. Avoid raw or undercooked food.
Some other countries you should also ‘exercise a high degree of caution’ in include France, Belgium, UK, Denmark, Sweden and Germany. I wouldn't leave your house just to be safe
Jutaku’nboutstayinHome?
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@Mondorock: I swear the commenter who made the joke about staying home’s username was “JutakuHome” at the time of my cheeky response…
why you gotta do me like that hahaha 😳😳
I wouldn't leave your house just to be safe
Oh no, they don't have an advisory about Australia! 😨
What can we do in Nairobi