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Upcoming chinese grinder brand throwing their hats in for the conical burr grinder single dosing market, they have been around with their previous products the edge and edge plus which the edge plus in my opinion really does compete with niche zero.

55mm Conical burr grinder with stepless adjustment, at a pretty good price of under 300 aud.

For someone who has a DF83v atm and want conical burr for medium and darker roasted coffees/filter, I'm willing to try my luck at this grinder.

They have a super simple magnetic chute design where coffee grinds can be easily cleaned and help with reducing retention.

I don't have much expectations for their customer service as they are based in China however with a previous grinder they had a stalling issue on lighter roasts of beans (around >10% development time) and rectified it pretty quickly by changing the design of the conical burrs and sending it out to anyone who reached out.

For anyone who is wanting to get into the coffee game, I do think this is a fantastic piece of kit if it performs as well as it should considering the price.

Based off their youtube videos it definitely does seem a lot of thinking went involved, by having a choke point on the entrance of the beans, it would help the beans collpase into the grinder at a more controlled rate as well as help with anti pop corning.

Here is a video for what seems like a light roast
https://youtube.com/shorts/0JaaBpsfGFU?si=rPXmbiD1WlJLMycC

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  • kungfuman on 01/06/2024 - 20:58
    +2

    That’s very cheap for a decent grinder

    • darkkito on 01/06/2024 - 21:04

      yea definitely, everything at this price range including the chinese competitor is more between 300-500 for 48mm burr but for a 55mm burr which has increase surface area contact by conical burr scale, definitely is something I'm gonna check out haha

  • Kaise on 01/06/2024 - 21:17

    Damn… I'm interested… Can't seem to find any reviews that aren't from the company themselves. Specs look really good

    • darkkito on 01/06/2024 - 21:29

      I'm really hoping the quality is as good as edge and edge+ since those 2 models were fantastic.

  • lolcoaster on 01/06/2024 - 21:26

    This or the DF54 for $353 + delivery?

    The DF54 seems to have a lot of decent reviews on youtube.

    Edit: The Starseeker has a 73W motor vs a 150W motor on the DF54

    • darkkito on 01/06/2024 - 21:37

      Flat burr vs conical burr, you have to understand the nuances each burr will produce, if you drink a lot of medium to darker roasts with the ocassional SO i think this grinder is fantastic, if you want to enter the world of flat burr, experiment with SO, df54 would be the way to go. I personally think this would compete with the df64 if the performance is what they advertise.

      With the shipping its nearly 400$ vs 270$ grinder.

      I don't think the DF54 will perform 48% better than the the grinder I listed, but you will be able to taste different nuances with each burr carrier.

      Its important instead of comparing two grinders with different style of burrs, its better to ask if you prefer more texture, sweetness and body, conical would be the way. If you want super focused clarity, brightness and acidity with chances of enhancing defects as well, the flat burr is your weapon of choice.

      tldr milk based go conical, if espresso, long black go flat burr.

      There is a reason why the niche zero(conical) is well known since its very forgiving and produces a lovely cup.

      • lolcoaster on 01/06/2024 - 21:45

        Fair enough, didn't realise this was a conical burr set.

    • jrm21 on 04/06/2024 - 23:39

      to piggyback off this, newbie here trying to look for a grinder around this price point

      is 73W something to be worried about? Seems low compared to others.. would this be bad for light roasts? I plan on medium/dark roasts with milk so this could be a bit irrelevant

      another grinder I was eyeing off was the Baratza Encore ESP which is <$350. Has solid reviews and it would seem to be the safe pick for me. Or is this grinder well ahead with its specs and worth the risk? The main benefit seeming to be the 55mm burrs compared to the ESP 40mm?

      not sure if im saying anything silly, im not too familiar with this as im trying to get into espresso making. looking at grabbing a bambino + grinder so any advice is welcome.

      • G-rig on 05/06/2024 - 09:41

        Hey, any lucky getting the Encore ESP sorted, was it under warranty?
        I noticed The Good Guys sell it at least, I wouldn't personally get something like this (Starseeker) from AliExpress if there is a good local alternative for the same price, for these reasons. Still mixed reviews on Reddit.

        Cheers,

        • jrm21 on 05/06/2024 - 13:13

          I haven't bought the ESP if you were asking that. I'm just looking at getting my first espresso machine (Bambino probably) and a grinder to go with it.

          I just saw the ESP on Alternative Brewing which seems to be in stock.

      • darkkito on 15/06/2024 - 19:08

        I didn't see this sorry, I'm happy to do some hands on reviews if you like? I have some crazy light roasts.

        • jrm21 on 15/06/2024 - 23:09
          +1

          @darkkito I took the gamble and bought this. I have already received this and tried it out. I only have an Aeropress and I was using a Timemore C3 hand grinder but I feel like I have noticed a big difference already (in a good way) in just the aeropress. I'm excited for when I start doing espresso with this. I'm using Lime Blue Brazil beans.

  • djevoultion on 01/06/2024 - 21:55

    My baratza 270wi died yesterday. Has anyone compared the two ?

    • darkkito on 01/06/2024 - 21:57

      in terms of function and jet engine sounds from the baratza 270wi, the starseeker is going to be a lot lesser in terms of function. But adjustability and pricing the starseeker is also a lot less.

      In the cup should be relatively similar profile, if anything should get a cleaner cup in the starseeker due to slower rpm producing less fines.

      (theory wise)

  • payless69 on 02/06/2024 - 08:18
    -5

    Thanks!
    Ordered 10.
    Told the Jones next door, they pledged to order 11.

  • Fuzzyduck on 02/06/2024 - 09:50

    Umm I like my bean hopper, tell me straight, I am I cretin?

  • zorodluffy on 03/06/2024 - 11:49

    Please note this is actually $300 after GST

    • darkkito on 03/06/2024 - 12:03

      I did write 272 + tax delivered,

      if you had used the ali coupons that were valid, you were looking at ~260aud shipped

  • zorodluffy on 03/06/2024 - 11:59

    In the video you look, they put 18.1g of beans in and get to a scene of 18.1 grounded beans out.

    Is this to be expected? 0% retention? I dont see any bellow attachments for the grinder

    • darkkito on 03/06/2024 - 12:08

      most likely old beans, if you had cleaned the chamber then tried 18 grams, it definitely wouldn't be 0% retention.

      However thats the same with any grinders as old beans generally fill the nooks and crannies and comes out as a mix of old beans and new beans.

      Bellows I personally still don't really enjoy using since they mostly push out very fine particles and hinders from having a clean cup.

      e.g the lagom p64 don't use bellows nor the company actually recommends it, instead they suggest just "palming" the chute lightly if needed.

      • zorodluffy on 03/06/2024 - 12:47

        You said you have their other grinder and its good, how much retention in g of a 18g dose are you getting with those?

        • darkkito on 03/06/2024 - 13:00

          Where did I say I had their other grinder?

          • zorodluffy on 03/06/2024 - 13:09

            @darkkito: my bad i reread your post, when i read it the first time i misinterpreted it as you had a model you would say was comparable to the niche zero

            • darkkito on 03/06/2024 - 13:18

              @zorodluffy: I had the chance to use it, the retention was what I would expect from a single dosing grinder.

              Its best practise if you "rinse" your grinder with the beans you want to use before putting in the full dosing gram.

              Retention wise it was like shown in vdeo 0% retention however like I previously explained, its most likely a combination of mixed from previous grind and new grind.

              No grinder will have 0% retention and 0.5 grams is more than acceptable in my opinion, its more good practise that will help you achieve better results with single dosing.

              IF you think about it, if your using different beans, they most likely will have different roast levels which will require different settings.

              e.g if im going from dark roast to light roast, I would adjust the grind setting while its turned on and "palm" the top of the chute to remove any excess then "rinse" the grinder with my light roast. After that I would palm again, throw out whatever came out then put in the full dose.

              Bellows are definitely overrated in practical intended usage setting, its just more for cleaning my opinion.

  • blues99 on 03/06/2024 - 18:03
    +1

    Thanks OP bought one to trial pairing with my df64v, came to 174 usd all in, so should be around 264 aud with fee free conversion. Amazing value if it's decent.

    • darkkito on 03/06/2024 - 19:54

      Such an amazingly priced grinder imo if its reliable, this probably will set the go to conical burr grinder in market.

  • MrSprinkles on 04/06/2024 - 13:17

    What are the grind sizes on this? is it capable for creating grinds suitable for pour overs?

  • zorodluffy on 12/06/2024 - 09:11

    anyone that bought this, and has used it, any reviews?

    • darkkito on 12/06/2024 - 20:51

      I recieved mine, quality is fantastic, has actually anti popcorn features and comes included with a bellow.

      Can definitely grind fine enough for espresso but I'm in the process of upgrading so I don't have a coffee machine to test out with atm.

      Static is pretty bad so rdt is definitely recommended. Comes out somewhat clumped but less than breville.

      Solid metal body so is super heavy.

      • zorodluffy on 12/06/2024 - 22:06

        Hows the retention?

        And also once you get your coffee machine working, how are the steps for dialing in expresso, are they not small enough or easy to dial with?

        Tyvm for the review btw, more tempted to get it now lol

        • darkkito on 12/06/2024 - 22:09

          Retention is pretty low, stepless dial so should be pretty easy to dial in. You can try dm starseeker on ig and see if they can give you a direct pricing.

          • zorodluffy on 12/06/2024 - 22:11

            @darkkito: Direct pricing? So i can get it cheaper then $330aud listed on ali?!

            One more question with the dial settings, does it stay on the setting or does it change a bit over use, from vibrations etc

            • darkkito on 12/06/2024 - 22:12

              @zorodluffy: The dial is pretty firm, I doubt it will be impactful if it does change.

              • zorodluffy on 12/06/2024 - 22:21

                @darkkito: The powder cup, does it snug fit onto a 58mm portafilter for easy transfer?

  • blues99 on 12/06/2024 - 21:33
    +1

    received mine, very similar thoughts to darkkito above, thanks for the post OP. amazing value for the price so far if it lasts, it even has an AU power plug, very small footprint, appears well made, easy to adjust grind size, just workflow isn't perfect with the needed rdt causing some beans to stick when pouring in but definitely acceptable at this price. I can't imagine they are making any profit off this as it was sent via DHL from Hong Kong and arrived in 2 days.

    • darkkito on 12/06/2024 - 21:39

      honestly I think for a 55mm conical burr, this is definitely going to break the market standard.

      It even beats the DF55 for value imo.

    • zorodluffy on 12/06/2024 - 22:09

      I wonder if lance hendrick will review this lol

    • lolcoaster on 13/06/2024 - 08:39

      How much is retained? E.g. 18g in, 17.9g out?

      And how's the taste vs what you were previously using?

      • blues99 on 13/06/2024 - 20:54

        haven't measured retention/exchange yet but already prefer the taste with my medium roast beans for milk based drinks compared to my df64v but still prefer the v for espresso/long black.

  • zorodluffy on 13/06/2024 - 22:22
    +1

    Was told that they will have another promo with this price again from 17 june to 23 june

  • OzAmore on 15/06/2024 - 15:10

    I'm considering getting this on the next sale just to try out the single dose grinder trend lol. I've been happily using a Macap M2M since 2017 and haven't looked at grinders until now. Am I wasting my time and money or will this be an upgrade for medium-dark roast milk based drinks?

    • darkkito on 15/06/2024 - 19:07
      +1

      You may notice its a bit sweeter but your grinder is plenty capable hahaha, I would consider having both since flat burrs and conical burrs to produce somewhat different nuances.

      • OzAmore on 15/06/2024 - 20:24

        Yeah I know it is haha. I'm definitely happy with the coffee I'm producing, I just see others playing with a new toy and I want to try aswell lol. The difference between flat vs conical burrs is something I wasn't aware of, nor was the RDT method until I seen this thread, so thanks!

  • whypaymo on 15/06/2024 - 16:17

    Would this be much of an upgrade over SGP for milk based coffees? I have had mine for a few years and the clumping/retention is seriously annoying.

    • darkkito on 15/06/2024 - 19:03
      +6

      I actually had the chance to use it today seeing as I got my coffee machine,

      Its honestly incredible.

      This will shake the market for sure at this price. The grinds are super fluffy with 0 clumping, retention is crazy good even without bellow usage. Just slight rdt and your good to go with static.

      The grind speed is quite fast. It definitely would be an upgrade from the SGP. One thing that is annoying is that the coffee beans do get stuck on the sides and you do have to kinda nudge it in.

      If I get more than 5 upvotes for this comment, I'll post video of it in use.

      • whypaymo on 15/06/2024 - 20:37

        Thanks mate, would love to see your setup and the E55 in action. In terms of coffee taste and body would you say it’s balanced?

        • darkkito on 15/06/2024 - 20:51

          oh definitely, I think its perfect for beginners wanting to start with SO

          • whypaymo on 15/06/2024 - 20:59

            @darkkito: Thanks. I had my reservations when this was first posted knowing it’s coming from Alibaba. I’m running out of reasons not to try one :)

            • darkkito on 18/06/2024 - 17:49
              +1

              @whypaymo: https://youtu.be/BvQn1xBNYUc?si=AUsiufQ6UoUQ_nKg

              Hi everybody here is a raw video of what workflow would like in different methods, I have actually seen on the aliexpress reviews that they are willing to ship the lid that fits without the hopper for free, so if you are planning to buy one make sure u request the lid without the bellow as well.

              • 0jay on 18/06/2024 - 17:53

                @darkkito: are those beans adhereing to the inside of the hopper due to spritzing or is it just a peculiarity of the design/materials?

                • darkkito on 18/06/2024 - 17:56

                  @0jay: I would imagine its both, but more the spritzing, the entry of the chute is pretty narrow, so if you put all your beans in at once like I do in the video, they would choke at the entrance and not go in. If you maybe were slow feeding with a lighter sprtiz, but I prefer the heavier rdt as it actually benefits more in the extraction stage believe it or not.

              • whypaymo on 18/06/2024 - 18:04

                @darkkito: Thanks mate, overall it looks like a good machine but I must say those beans getting stuck is not the best when it comes to workflow. I'm looking forward to receiving mine.

                • darkkito on 18/06/2024 - 18:06

                  @whypaymo: i agree its a bit annoying, but you can spritz a lot less and that should help with the issue.

              • rusty2k on 19/06/2024 - 12:07

                @darkkito: thanks for the video. appreciate the workflow.

                • darkkito on 19/06/2024 - 12:31

                  @rusty2k: I just did it this morning, if you spritz less and slow feed the grinder, it won't jam.

                  • rusty2k on 19/06/2024 - 12:48

                    @darkkito: i dont spritz - no jamming at all. im still learning the ropes

                    by the way, whats the make of your coffee machine ?

      • rusty2k on 17/06/2024 - 10:54

        upvoted

        definitely a STEP UP from both my Breville grinders

  • rusty2k on 17/06/2024 - 17:46
    +2

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    • whypaymo on 18/06/2024 - 16:35
      +1

      Ordered one, thanks :)

  • lolcoaster on 17/06/2024 - 19:13

    Bought one based off the positive reviews

  • darkkito on 20/06/2024 - 22:46

    It has seem like my machine has stopped working…not sure why…I have messaged starseeker will keep you guys updated. :(

    • zorodluffy on 21/06/2024 - 11:49

      O dam lol, mines arriving on monday

    • whypaymo on 21/06/2024 - 12:09

      That's concerning, the after-service experience will determine if this mob can be trusted.

      • darkkito on 21/06/2024 - 15:43

        Currently they believe its a connection thats gone loose, I'll keep updating everyone. They are going to send me a video of how to repair.

        • darkkito on 23/06/2024 - 11:32
          +1

          fixed! just was a simple connection lose that needed clamping. Opened to bottom up with screws then hex keys, one of the blue wire was cut too long so it pushed the cap off the rest of the connection. Ended up using rubber with meltable solder to repair.

          I have advised of starseeker as well.

          Working perfeclty fine now

          • lolcoaster on 23/06/2024 - 20:15

            @darkkito: Did they give instructions on how to open the grind mechanism (i.e. for cleaning)?

  • zorodluffy on 23/06/2024 - 13:55

    just got my coffee grinder delivered! melb, vic.

    the invoice paper on the box says it was $104 USD tho, weirdly, even though it was about $160 on ali

    • darkkito on 23/06/2024 - 14:58

      let us know what your expereiences are like when u use it

      • zorodluffy on 23/06/2024 - 15:41

        Just gave it a shot before work, did the first grind 18g without rdt, only 14g came out and needed 10+ bellow pumps to get it close to 18g.

        Set the grinder setting to 25 (on the manual it said 15 to 35 for expresso)

        Coffee machine choked, way too fine lol.

        2nd try i did 1 squirt of rdt, 18g and pretty much 18g came out, also didnt make as much of a mess with no rdt (when the grind came out of the chute, it sprayed more and missed the cup with no rdt)

        This time the grinder setting was set to 35.

        Tried on coffee machine, but still too fine.

        No more time and had to go work, will see tomorrow how it goes.

        Overall the coffee machine looks good and feels good and its much smaller then my firorentzo f5.

        So im saving so much bench space now, am happy so far

        • whypaymo on 23/06/2024 - 16:14

          Received mine today too. I had the same experience, around 50 is where I have settled for now, but I’ll have another go tomm. I wonder if this machine needs a calibration.

          • darkkito on 23/06/2024 - 20:29

            @whypaymo: oh wow, very interesting, I'm around 35-40 atm. But I do put a very long preinfusion.

            • zorodluffy on 23/06/2024 - 20:35

              @darkkito: Darkkito, after the preinfusion phase, how many grams do you normally get in the shot glass

              • darkkito on 23/06/2024 - 20:43

                @zorodluffy: i do 1:2 ratio typically

                • zorodluffy on 23/06/2024 - 21:32

                  @darkkito: Nah i mean, after just the Preinfusion phase, is there some coffee that comes out? Is it 3g, 5g, 10g etc?

                  • darkkito on 23/06/2024 - 22:13

                    @zorodluffy: well I feel like the question isn't really going to answer anything for you haha. depending on how find I grind I'm going to preinfuse based on grind size. Which will have various time duration or coffee. Typically I end preinfusion based on if my basket is fully saturated or not. So not much theoretically should be in cup when I end preinfusion.

                    • zorodluffy on 23/06/2024 - 23:58

                      @darkkito: I see, that answers a lot thank you.

                      I have a gagiunno and my preinfusion is set to end when the pressure reaches 4 bars, typically it takes 10s and sbout 2g of coffee would come out.

                      Still new to coffee so i wasnt sure if this was the best way, but coffee was tasting great.

                      Its good to see your perspective on PI, maybe ill try do it like that and see how it foes

  • zorodluffy on 24/06/2024 - 13:35

    tried grind setting of 40 for the lazzio luxe coffee, taste good! i reckon its almost dialed in.

    Two issues i have noticed making my coffee today

    1. When using the bellow and trying to get all the grounds out, i think the grind settings change from all the movement, i've noticed my grind settings going +5 between grinds.

    2.There was a rattling, sounding like metal rubbing together after my 2nd coffee. I realized it was the magnetic chute, when i pulled it out, it stopped making the metal rubbing sound, when i put it back in it made the sound again, doesnt sound good for the blades.

    Eventually after tapping the grinder a few more times, now it has stopped rubbing against the magnetic chute. However this is pretty concerning and it seems the tolerance between the magnetic chute and the rotating conical burrs is too close.

    • darkkito on 24/06/2024 - 13:45

      I don't have any of those issues you just mentioned, also my grind adjustment is relatively stiff, im not sure how hard your bellowing to change the grind settings by 5+.

      maybe contact starseeker with your issues. There is no way you the adjustments move from bellowing or your smashing the bellow.

      Can you post a video of it?

      • zorodluffy on 24/06/2024 - 13:47

        i can post a vid the next time the metal rub happens, but probably not with the adjustments, that would be too hard to film

      • zorodluffy on 24/06/2024 - 13:54

        just tested again, if you push the magnetic chute into its seat further, the metal rubs with the burrs, or at least with something that's spinning.

        you can see this in the vid i have shared.

        https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/c22zgqg6qhw26p1n95f23/2024062…

        In the 2nd vid, you can see what the metal rubbing sounds like. This one didnt occur from me purposely pushing the chute into the grinder, even though if I did the metal rubbing should not occur anyway. This one might of been caused by accidently bumping into the chute, or maybe hitting the bellow too hard and shaking the chute a bit closer, anyhow the metal rubbing doesnt stop until i hit the grinder, which probably moves everything and the chute is now a bit further away

        https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/01vf6cd481f4x72qyvd6c/2024062…

        • darkkito on 24/06/2024 - 13:58

          thats really interesting, try contact starseeker about it

          • zorodluffy on 24/06/2024 - 13:59

            @darkkito: I will, they probably would just need to modify their existing chute design, better to let them know now before they sell more E55s.

            Coffee tastes good tho lol.

            • darkkito on 24/06/2024 - 14:09

              @zorodluffy: I'm maybe thinking its out of aligntment, I can't seem to replicate your issue at all.

    • whypaymo on 24/06/2024 - 14:11

      I have the exact same problem, the grind setting changes when I'm using the bellow. The dial is far too sensitive (can be easily moved) and with the slightest touch, it would move the dial. I think this could also be the reason why my grinding setting needs to be so high ~50.
      However, I'm getting great results.

      • darkkito on 24/06/2024 - 14:13

        What color did you get?

        • whypaymo on 24/06/2024 - 14:14

          Black. Please don't tell me that Black is the issue here….hahah

          • darkkito on 24/06/2024 - 14:17

            @whypaymo: I'm going to hastly assume maybe black had a production difference to the silver…

            I can't replicate either thing hahaha.

            • whypaymo on 24/06/2024 - 14:21

              @darkkito: I guess, I'll have to reach out to them to see what they say about the dial. Cheers

      • zorodluffy on 24/06/2024 - 15:00

        are you also having the magnetic chute rub too?

        • whypaymo on 24/06/2024 - 15:40

          Just checked my grinder after watching your video and it seems to work fine, no friction.

      • zorodluffy on 26/06/2024 - 13:09

        With grinder setting being high at 50.

        For everyone, if you were to adjust settings finer until it stops and cant go finer anymore, does it stop at 0?

        Unless all of ours stop at the same number, these settings are pretty much non comparable.

        • whypaymo on 26/06/2024 - 13:12

          Spot on, mine goes all the way to 91 if turned anti-clockwise.

          • zorodluffy on 26/06/2024 - 13:16

            @whypaymo: Mine goes 3 units past 0, so 3 to the right of 0.

            If i recall correctly, assuming its 100 units for 1 revolution, then mine stops at 97.

            Just to clarify, did you mean turning clockwise? I'm at work now but I recall that it was turning clockwise to go finer.

            • whypaymo on 26/06/2024 - 13:25

              @zorodluffy: I did contact them about this and their reply was "If your ideal state is 51-55, it is not a problem and can be used normally, you just need to choose the scale that suits you"
              Irrespective of these recommended settings, the grinder seems to perform well, producing great coffee.

              • zorodluffy on 26/06/2024 - 13:50
                +1

                @whypaymo: Yeah that make sense, plus the setting is just a abritrary guide anyway, it would vary from bean to beans

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