3 additional years to the 5 years normally offered. 8-year or 225,000km limit.
HRV eHEV DA $43k
CRV eHEV DA $60k
8-Year/225,000km Warranty and Roadside Assist on Honda HRV, ZR-V, 2023 Build CR-V & 2024 Build CR-V Hybrid
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Whirlpool before Carsales.
In all seriousness though, I love Hondas and 8 years warranty is pretty damn good. You got my up-vote! :)
What does 8 years warrranty offer over ACL guarantees when service/maintained correctly?
@1r4n14n: Yes we do, they are called consumer guarantees and absolutely protect you from buying a lemon.
Maybe do some reading rather than just "thinking" you know it all.
@1r4n14n: The last bastion of a gaslighter, run away and hide rather than learn from their mistakes.
so you edit while I reply, great.
You want an actual law called the lemon law? what are you, 12?
@[Deactivated]: Did the countless amount of people who purchased dud Jeeps and left their cars sitting at the front of the dealerships with signs stating “piece of shit” or burning them on YouTube for awareness get their money back? You’ve got no idea do you?
@1r4n14n: Did they follow the correct course of action or did they just throw their toys out of the pram?
An adult would consult a solicitor, a child would smash or grafitti and get all crybaby.
BTW, I thought you weren't going to bother entertaining this conversation, but it seems you're sore.
@[Deactivated]: Nah, they went to Jeep and kindly asked for their money back. I’m not even sure if you’re serious at this point.
@1r4n14n: My old boss was one of those with a dud Jeep - the problem was not that we didn't have the laws, it cost money as a person if the company refuses to comply with them. Most people who didn't have the money to buy a new car, park the broken one up for months, and get legal with them - as a more well off person, he did, and after many months won. ACCC don't tend to prosecute individual cases with a short turnaround.
See here https://www.canstar.com.au/car-insurance/lemon-laws/\
and here
https://walkerpender.com.au/lemon-laws/#:~:text=In%20Queensl…
@[Deactivated]: Yes, ACL applies. Getting a resolution can be deliberately painful depending on the company, lengthy, and uncertain. Hire a lawyer? No, money down.
@1r4n14n: https://www.drive.com.au/news/accc-finds-jeep-mishandled-cus…
Sounds like they should have held onto their Jeep. Still might get their money back
@1r4n14n: Yes, I remember a colleague of mine at work started got funded by strangers to wreck his Lemon Jeep
Check it out https://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/ashton-wood-r…Aus doesnt have lemon laws
@1r4n14n: Not codified (unless you count ACL, which is vague on its own), but it is in common law (case/judge made law).
@Chinese: This is not quite accurate - they are codified in the ACL which is only vague so far as it needs to be broad to allow it to catch a lot of scenarios. It does protect us - see this https://walkerpender.com.au/lemon-laws/#:~:text=In%20Queensl…. and this https://www.canstar.com.au/car-insurance/lemon-laws/
Less so in common law - common law favours caveat emptor (let the buyer beware).
@MrFrugalSpend: Yes. You are correct its codified to the extend of ACL. the rest, the court will interpret and apply.
I’m not even going to bother entertaining this conversation.
You just did…
credibility = credibility -1I’ll put people in their place if they wanna get personal.
So brave. So courageous…
you got wrecked
And you thought this comment was a winner? If the hat fits…
@[Deactivated]: .
Example:-
Ford Lion engines, a significant number of them installed in various vehicles, have had crankshaft failures, which will result in a min of $20k bill to rectify. Out of warranty, lets say 3-5 years good luck getting the manufacturer to pay for the replacement engine.
Statutory warranty, is ambiguous, you cant rely on it, and enforcement is difficult and slow (personal experience).8 year manufacturer warranty is great
Well, endorsement from first hand experience. It is our daily and works well. A few things lacking - memory electric seats, better sound insulation, and a better sound system.
@0 0 0: Audi, BWM, Porsche too if the list is to grow. Back to the basic nowadays with Japanese cars. Haha
@Chinese: Haha yes true. Though Mercedes is the traditional Chinese luxury car in Australia. New cashed up immigrants have made Porsche, Maserati and Bentley mainstream luxury cars. But the G63 wagon is still hugely popular amongst the 30yos from mainland China
Toyota offers 7 years capped price servicing unlimited km warranty plus their existence is solid. I thought Honda didn't get A CAP 5 star for their HRV model which was a deciding factor for lower demand (in addition to ridiculous prices compared to the competition). These are not even Japanese made; why would someone wants to buy this over similarly priced Japanese made 5 star ANCAP rated Toyota?
@dasher86: Some cars have a waiting period (i.e. Toyota) while others have cars parked waiting for buyers (won't name them as people easily get upset); obviously that's for a reason right? It's not as if Toyota produces less volume, not really. I'd happily wait for a safer, more reliable car that I trust compared to something readily available knowing a few years time I won't be getting value for my money.
@npnp: The Toyota dealer I visited last week has brand new cars, with 20km on them, being sold as second hand cars, with a significant markup.
It's a pretty unsavoury tactic, to be honest. We were looking at the RAV4 hybrid, as a runabout for the wife. Now we might be looking at an X-Trail Hybrid, or something similar instead, if anyone has suggestions. The wait on a new X-Trail was about 3 weeks, compared to almost a year for a Rav4. We need to take it for a test drive yet, before we make up our minds. That's the other thing, they won't even let you test drive a new Rav4, we had to test last years model, and just guess from there.@HiredGoon: Did you try Toyota corolla cross Hybrid? That will be a little cheaper than RAV4 and also waiting will be little less but you get pretty much same size car (better economy, a tad quicker off the mark and also better looking too IMHO). A big plus for corolla cross is that it has the latest Toyota safety sense where as RAV4 and most of the other cars have older version (a big difference between the two versions look it up). But I believe 2025 onwards other Toyota's also get the latest safety sense..
@HiredGoon: Ask around about the turbo engine used in the Nissan. There's a wide recall overseas. Since the joint venture Nissan seems to have various issues by sharing parts from Renault.
@npnp: Correction: The current HRVs are Japanese made. I just bought one a few weeks ago, just waiting on delivery.
Plus my current car is a Honda Civic which I brought in 2005 and it has lasted 19 years, even when I haven't maintained it properly the last 5 years.
As a Honda owner, I know they are reliable and are built to last.
@ksj 007: Good decision on getting Japanese built Honda. I currently drive a Honda Civic myself (2014 UK made) so I know they are built like tanks. I can't say the same for some of the Thai made Honda's though.
Heard someone says their parts are hard to source and expensive compared to Toyota in general, thoughts?
too many communists mods on Whirlpool so I would go to carsales.
Whirlpool if you want to be told to buy a Tesla instead and then be lectured that somehow a $60k Tesla is cheaper than a $43k Honda
Thought that is ozb
is Honda likely to still be in Aus in 8 years? Warranty could be worthless
People have been saying this for years.
Honda sold 14,215 vehicles in 2022 and 13,734 in 2023 – down from a peak of 60,529 sales in 2007.
It's going in the right direction.
especially with their fixed price selling policy
Nothing wrong with fixed price. There is certainly something wrong with fixed high price though. $47k for a honda civic is actually nuts.
@Calvin27: Correct, they making price as a luxury brand like Lexus, then the sales sharp drop, now looks they realized it, trying to mark the price match to other, but bit late～
@billhan: Sorry to burst your bubble mate but while Honda's pricing is high, it is nowhere near what an entry model Lexus would start at. Saying that their prices are like Lexus is a bit over the top.
@Calvin27: I love my Honda Jazz and every now and again I think about what I'd buy when it comes time to replace it and the Civic pretty much prices itself out of the conversation. $55k for the hybrid civic vs like $43k for a hybrid corolla. By the time I need to replace it I fully expect the BYDs of the world to have come in and completely monstered the competition.
@danwylie: Same here. And they've simply stopped selling jazz in Australia.
So they've both priced themselves out of my budget and removed the only option I was interested in
@Calvin27: From what I remember - Civic sedan was around $25k in 2018 when I went for a test drive and the dealer was ready to drop couple of G's if I were to buy that week. $47k is fooking nuts….
@azhar7772: You're on the money. At that time there were 5 variants of the 2017/2018 Civic (ignoring RS and Type-R)
I got the "top" variant at the time, Civic LX for under $35k in 2018
They may give up AU market as their price and service are less compatible nowadays.
18.9% increase from a 77% fall in peak sales volume… who is cherry picking stats?
18.9% increase from a 77% fall in peak sales volume
From when?
who is cherry picking stats?
You did, just then. Why did you cherry pick 2007 results? Because it suits your narrative. Why 2007 and not 1984 or 2013 or 1970? All equally cherry pickable…
It's ok to be a Honda fanboy, not gonna hold that against you.
But saying a 20% increase off an 80% decreased base is somehow a turnaround is delusional.But saying a 20% increase off an 80% decreased base
When did you decide that 2007 was the 'base' by which all future sale figures must be measured? Deliberately picking the peak sale figures is a form of cherry picking. 2007 has a lot less to do with 2024 than 2023. But you do you.
@1st-Amendment: 14,215 vehicles in 2022
13,734 vehicles in 2023Potentially on track to sell 16,328 given their 2023 performance, Toyota will sell that many corollas.
Toyota will sell that many corollas.
Cool. So once again cherry picking the against only the best to paint a narrative. Why choose Corolla and not
Your original claim was that sales figures were headed in the right direction (for failure) when the most recent figures suggests the opposite.
One explanation could be a road to failure. Another could be that they've already hit rock bottom and are now rebounding. Only time will tell.
So once again cherry picking the against only the best to paint a narrative.
What?
Why choose Corolla and not
What? Not have a hard-on for Honda? Not buy a civic cause the base model is $47K?
Another could be that they've already hit rock bottom and are now rebounding.
And a broken clock is still right twice a day.
because that was the peak?
And why is that important over any other year? Use your words.
typical US level of intelligence
What an odd thing to say. But it's always funny to see someone try to criticise someone else's intelligence when they can't even work out simple capitalisation and punctuation. This is literally Year 2 literacy you're failing at here…
@1st-Amendment: Dumbed it down in case you no understand. You gaining 50 IQ after birth does not mean you are not an idiot.
especially by removing cars like Odyssey and Jazz from AU market
Yup first time Honda owner with a 2nd hand Odyssey. Great car and i would have loved to buy one brand new.
Mainstream Japanese brand. Suzuki would/should leave here first before Honda does.
Isn't Suzuki doing well sales wise in Australia?
Jimnys are definitely selling quite well since the launch of 5 door XL model. They are making a killing on the margins too. They are priced 30% more than Indian market where they are built but still popular here at inflated price.
No other car in the market that can compete with Jimmy on price and off-road capability.
@TangoCharlieAlpha: It just goes to show what a gaping hole in that market there is. If only one of the softroaders actually had a crack at being anything but useless at offroading the Jimny would be a joke. 1.5L 4 speed auto? Heck man, even toyota smeels the money and wants to build a rav 4 platformed offroader same drivetrain and all.
Suzuki Australia and Suzuki Queensland are two different/competing distributors with different pricing, nterestingly
They can't get enough Jimnys to sell.
Suzuki outsold Honda in 2023.
Jimny saved the brand.
Yeah - they're getting very desperate after sales fell off a cliff recently
I'm surprised more manufacturers don't offer long warranties to lock you into overpriced servicing. I know you can go elsewhere, but most manufacturers mandate that they will only honour the warranty when serviced elsewhere if genuine parts are used.
The bulk of which likely don't.
Wouldn't know if that could be tested legally if a warranty issue arose.
Not per ACL. I recall Mitsubishi's 10 years is an exception that the court (maybe it was a tribunal case) agreed the dealer should service the car for a full 10 years coverage (from the standard 5 years).
Warranty for Honda (as well Toyota and the like) probably not very costly for the manufacturer. Cant say the same on VW.
They can't legally insist you have them service it to not void the warranty… that being said, do you want to argue with a car company over your rights?
They often give a 3 year warranty and the additional years' coverage is a supplementary warranty tied to servicing with them. A rort.
Considering Honda's last for 80 years it probably won't cost them a lot
Honda good car to buy?
Not really - they've been asleep since shortly after the GFC, there are much better cars in basically every category. You also can't negotiate prices with Honda as they no longer have a dealership model.
Try the new ones. Not half bad.
If they're still similar quality to MIL's 2020 HRV it's pretty poor value for money regardless of the warranty. Doors extremely tinny, heaps of road noise, crappy CVT and an aftermarket feeling infotainment system straight out of 2013. Hopefully they've improved as I love some of their older cars (Prelude, Integra, learnt on a manual Accord Euro which was a great car) but the change to fix priced (i.e. overpriced), lack of dealers (only 2 or 3 in Brisbane) and subpar quality is killing them.
@zonarhd: No, far from it. I bought the exact same outdatd HRV for my folks. Pay me and I will consider owning one, otherwise, no.
New ones are fine.
They are basically dying in Australia aren't they with their sales and probably leading to poor support, doing fine in USA.
I personally love my 2020 Honda Civic
Stop regurgitating rubbish from Youtubers regarding Honda and Nissan. GFC was almost 2 dacades ago, no affect on whats happening now. We're just an unimportant market. Honda was and still is great in the US with cars that last.
Honda was and still is great in the US with cars that last.
Honda has had a great reputation globally for decades. The dealerships may suck here, but the engineering is top notch. Anyone who follows F1 or MotoGP knows the pedigree there.
Thanks mate, I was just looking for a new car actually. What would I do without OzB? Probably resort to Carsales I guess.