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Nissan Leaf Drive Away: Leaf 39kWh (270km Range) $39,990, Leaf e+ 59kWh (385km Range) $49,990 @ Nissan

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Nissan Leaf Drive Away: Leaf 39kWh (270km Range) $39,990, Leaf e+ 59kWh (385km Range) $49,990 @ Nissan
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navman on 09/05/2024 - 08:05 nissan.com.au (6366 clicks)
Last edited 09/05/2024 - 10:43 by 2 other users

For those who missed out on the Peugeot e-2008 deal, this provides a good alternative for a Japanese built EV. Range is low on the base model, only 270km. It also has CHAdeMO port for DC fast charging, so it may be harder to find a compatible fast charger on the road. However, if you charge at home, it uses a standard type 2 plug for AC charging. Additionally, battery does not have active thermal management, so range may drop off further in several years. I would do thorough research before committing, but seems like a good deal given the usual price is $50k+.

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      • Spendmore on 09/05/2024 - 11:20
        +2

        You have heaps of Chinese stuff at home. I bet you are even wearing some now.

      • FOX on 09/05/2024 - 13:52
        +1

        Lol ethnic cleansing, talking about white people killing indigenous inhabitants.

    • gasman70 on 09/05/2024 - 10:17
      -4

      That's good to know

  • Pulseless on 09/05/2024 - 08:41
    +2

    Just buy one in a year for 50% off

  • mirek on 09/05/2024 - 08:48
    -2

    Ugly, I'd go for EX30 or BYD Seal

    • timmysbiscuits on 09/05/2024 - 09:43
      +5

      The EX30 is about $65k

      • mirek on 09/05/2024 - 09:50
        +1

        That's right. Then MG4 is better at this price

      • Creamsoda on 09/05/2024 - 14:55
        +1

        And already sold out this year.

  • Manny Calavera on 09/05/2024 - 08:48
    +3

    Aren’t these one of the types that can support V2G?

  • cmyk on 09/05/2024 - 09:09
    +6

    MG4 Excite 51 with LFP battery is the same price and IMHO is a no brainer vs this car. It's the car of the year awarded by many car reviewers here and overseas

    • Deceiver on 09/05/2024 - 09:12
      +2

      The Holden Camira was car of the year once…

      • cmyk on 09/05/2024 - 09:49
        -1

        False equivalency. Camira: sample size of one publication in one country.
        Fun fact for those interested: Wheels who awarded the Camira back in 1982 admitted later it was a mistake, and they felt pressured by the local industry to give it.

      • brad1-8tsi on 14/05/2024 - 11:26
        +1

        As were plenty of other local and international pus-boxes by local and international publications that don't have to live with their choices long term. COTY awards are a bit of a joke.

  • May4th on 09/05/2024 - 09:11
    +3

    Why would anyone get this over a MG4/BYD seal?

  • keejoonc on 09/05/2024 - 09:13
    +1

    Makes no sense at this sort of price. You would have to be mad to buy this over other alternatives.

  • dealsucker on 09/05/2024 - 09:14
    +14

    A fully electric vehicle with no active battery temperature management is brain dead. Piece of crap.

    • massari on 09/05/2024 - 09:15
      +4

      100% no activ cooling in this day and age is massive negative.

  • Drakesy on 09/05/2024 - 09:19
    +4

    Would go an MG over one of these with old battery tech anyday

  • Mechanical on 09/05/2024 - 09:36

    Now it's a direct competition between MG4 vs Leaf vs PEUGEOT 2008 vs MG ZS EV

    • timmysbiscuits on 09/05/2024 - 09:45
      +1

      vs Dolphin vs Ora Good Funky Cat

      • Mechanical on 09/05/2024 - 09:45

        they are way more cheaper

        • timmysbiscuits on 09/05/2024 - 09:46
          +1

          The Dolphin starts at around $41k I think

    • HunterBargainHunter on 10/05/2024 - 02:35

      But first let’s omit those without active battery cooling, because it’s not 2010 anymore.

  • cloudy on 09/05/2024 - 09:36

    With all the negative comments the e 2008 got, I wonder if those some people will shit all over this even lesser range same price deal…

    • May4th on 09/05/2024 - 09:46
      +6

      The anti-ev brigade will shit on both
      The EV fanatics will know neither are great
      The swing buyers will welcome the nissan badge more

      So perhaps not

      • cmyk on 09/05/2024 - 09:53

        Great summary.
        Another segment to add - The Sinophobes will also welcome the Nissan badge

  • SS625 on 09/05/2024 - 09:43
    +1

    only good at 30k imo, other 40k have much better range

  • Maq on 09/05/2024 - 09:55

    Isn't it amazing how quickly Japan is going down! Seems like in a few years, their main exports of cars and electronics will be dead compared to emerging rivals with newer and better technologies.
    TCL is already taking over TVs, Samsung and Apple in phones, and even Toyota is going to face rough times ahead as its advantage in ICE and transmission slips away. They may end up as just a niche player, like Canon.

    • radissimo on 09/05/2024 - 13:21
      +2

      agree with a first part, but Canon?:
      "Canon dominated the global digital camera market in 2023, accounting for nearly half of it. Sony and Nikon followed in the ranking, with 26 and 12 percent of the market, respectively"

      • altomic on 09/05/2024 - 13:58

        "but my friend had a canon camera and it was not good" <—further proof that Japanese manufacturing is a shadow of its former self.

      • cmyk on 09/05/2024 - 14:04
        +1

        Dominating a category that is rapidly declining means they're not dominating anything. It's like saying brand X has the highest market share in horse carriage.

        • radissimo on 09/05/2024 - 15:41

          Canon is just not a good example as whole market is declining .[ I just respond as I am keen photographer ]

          • cmyk on 09/05/2024 - 18:14

            @radissimo: All good. Canon is now niche and is way past their prime. I have still have the OG 5D that I bought back in the days and it's still solid

    • pizzip on 11/05/2024 - 02:13
      +3

      TCL is already taking over TVs, Samsung and Apple in phones,

      Right… like a brand that mostly sells sub $300 androids is totally comparable to a flagship iphone or samsung. They don't even compete in the same market segment. That's like saying MG is taking over BMW or Mercedes.

    • Foxxster on 12/05/2024 - 08:14
      +1

      Th entire western motor vehicle industry, including parts suppliers is in extreme peril. The US, Western Europe, UK, etc will see their motor vehicle manufacturers decimated by cheap Chinese evs. They will have no option but to shift the vast majority of their manufacturing off shore to cheaper countries like China, Mexico etc. look up articles about Belgium ports being flooded with Chinese evs. As far as Europe is concerned it is self inflicted with their ev mandates that impose massive fines on vehicle manufacturers if they fail to make certain percentages of evs across their fleet, a percentage that increases until 2035 when 100% is the mandated number. I am not sure the west knows what it is doing..

  • hopper on 09/05/2024 - 10:02

    <$19k and we are taking, to many red flags as mentioned by OP.
    CHAdeMO means using 16pin connector instead of usbC

  • foggy10 on 09/05/2024 - 10:07

    V2G could make this business case work… however the drive experience on this car is just not good

  • R4 on 09/05/2024 - 10:12
    +1

    Made in the UK not Japan. At least it's not built in CCPland.

  • mooreshady on 09/05/2024 - 10:13
    +1

    one of the ugliest EV on the market.

  • kaikor on 09/05/2024 - 10:31
    +1

    even a lot of used Leaf on carsales have been tanked for so long no one buying at all

  • kml22 on 09/05/2024 - 10:52
    +1

    Real world range Leaf 39kWh 220km, Leaf e+ 59kWh 320km

    • hothed on 09/05/2024 - 11:15
      +2

      Better off spending another $10k and buying an EV with a useful range. (MG4, seal, model 3)

  • phxsun on 09/05/2024 - 11:02
    +5

    I really like the idea of the Leaf as a little runabout grocery hauler but even then, it's hard to get over how much further the EV market has advanced with regards to technologies like heat pumps, CCS port and relatively slow charge speed. If I was in the market, I'd probably just buy a second hand one for half the price

  • drprox on 09/05/2024 - 11:04
    +1

    Wish this car made sense as Japanese made is still great but… An MG4 makes more sense at any grade.

    • R4 on 09/05/2024 - 15:03

      Made in the UK

  • nurbsenvi on 09/05/2024 - 11:07

    Why would you pay 50k for this??
    You can buy BYD or used Tesla even

  • Bearlion on 09/05/2024 - 11:19
    +3

    ill wait another 10yrs before EV switch. 2012 VW diesel going strong

    • R4 on 09/05/2024 - 15:08

      I sold my 2009 VW diesel last year as I bought a I20N but it was still doing the business - 900kms+ on 55l but north of 200kph if pushed hard. Handled like a dream.

      Diesel cars are great but none sold anymore unfortunately (at least in Australia).

  • Ruckmauler on 09/05/2024 - 11:26

    Genuine question - is it still advised to only fast charge to 80% then 'regular' charge to 100% and to try and avoid dropping to below 20% charge. I have read different explanations and that battery chemistry is at play etc…..

    • rvsure on 09/05/2024 - 11:31
      +3

      Depends on the type of battery. LFPs can and are recommended to be charged to 100% where as Li ion batteries are recommended to be charged up to 80% for longevity.

    • klaw81 on 09/05/2024 - 11:58
      +1

      is it still advised to only fast charge to 80% then 'regular' charge to 100% and to try and avoid dropping to below 20% charge

      There are a few factors at play here.

      1. Certain battery chemistries are more tolerant of 100% charge - LFP batteries can handle it better without degradation. That said, there's no issue with charging EV batteries to 100% before a road trip - the damaging part is trying to hold a battery at full charge for an extended period. Ideally, you'd jump into the car as soon as it finished charging to 100% and drive it to release some of that energy - this is absolutely fine.

      2. All EV batteries take a lot longer to charge the last 20%, regardless of chemistry. Assuming that there's another charger down the road, close enough to reach with 80% charge, it's time-inefficient to wait an extra 10-15 minutes to get all the way to 100%.

      3. There's no real issue with running the battery down below 20%, but this is typically considered a "safety buffer" on road trips, to ensure you can reach the next charger. Just like having the fuel light on in your ICE car, it's a warning that the car will stop before long if you don't find a place to top up.

  • CocaKoala on 09/05/2024 - 11:34
    +5

    Rubbish car with no active thermal management or fast charging - if an EV is what you need, there are better cars available. Nissan is selling this toilet on wheels to unsuspecting buyers.

  • Anthropomorphised on 09/05/2024 - 11:38
    +3

    The nissan leaf is a very poor choice given the competition these days. Buyers would be much better off with alternatives at the same price or cheaper from MG, BYD etc

  • khell on 09/05/2024 - 12:02
    +3

    They're dreaming at these prices for what they're offering. Nissan appear to be stuck in 2017.

    If I missed out on the e-2008, I wouldn't be throwing my money at a massive downgrade like the Nissan Leaf.

  • xuqi on 09/05/2024 - 12:21
    +3

    $40k-$50k on an EV without active thermal management???

    Apparently normal pricing on the e+ is ~ $61k + on-road costs. You'd have to be batshit crazy to buy one at their RRP.

  • drprox on 09/05/2024 - 12:38
    +1

    Makes sense as a cheaper used car but no sense at this price.

  • the swear jar on 09/05/2024 - 12:42
    +1

    Can't be any worse than the Toronto Maple Leafs…

  • maxbon on 09/05/2024 - 13:37
    +7

    Hats off to whoever posted this for mentioning all the shortcomings of the leaf. Basically, this is still a first-generation EV with a limited range, proprietary charging socket and lack of proper battery management. The hallmarks of a Gen-1 EV. May I add that the Leaf does not win anyone over in the looks department either.

    Charging $40k for this package is not really a bargain. More like Nissan trying to move their inventory of outdated, non-selling Leafs. Should be priced $20k.

    Nissan was comparatively early to the EV game, but then failed to modernise the Leaf.

    • MrMcHairyHead on 09/05/2024 - 14:11

      Yeah, you're much better off with a BYD, MG, or used Tesla.

    • GreyChris on 10/05/2024 - 00:39

      Best comment. It should be up the top of the thread.

  • RogerLoger on 09/05/2024 - 13:39

    Harry's gone back to Diesel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZysvgm2_Aw

  • Illyria on 09/05/2024 - 13:47

    RIP Tesla

  • FOX on 09/05/2024 - 13:58
    -5

    Rubbish car/deal, and op brings in shady politics.

    • PlaunsJanus on 09/05/2024 - 20:02
      -2

      Rubbish comment

      • FOX on 09/05/2024 - 21:30
        -2

        I'm glad this offended you, and you showed enough stupidity no doubt.

  • MrMcHairyHead on 09/05/2024 - 14:10

    Chademo in 2024 is insane.

    • MetalPhreak on 09/05/2024 - 21:12

      Mitsubishi does it on the outlander too. Chademo is king in Japan as it’s the standard they created. If Honda sold an EV here it’d be chademo too.

      Nissan/Mitsu are too broke/low volume/legacy to bother doing region specific ports.

    • hopper on 10/05/2024 - 04:13

      Plz be mindful, by granny uses iphone 4 which has 16 pin connector 😝

  • Homr on 09/05/2024 - 14:12

    39kWh??

    Isn't that like heaps weak?

    • JackFrost on 09/05/2024 - 14:19
      +1

      battery size, not motor output… it's small but not terrible for a car of its size.

  • JackFrost on 09/05/2024 - 14:12
    +5

    Relying on CHAdeMO for DC charging is like riding a horse and expecting the servo to sell you hay 😂

    • pegaxs on 10/05/2024 - 16:39

      Worse… Its like having a horse and going to get new shoes… while all horses have hooves and wear steel horse shoes, your horse has human feet and wears thongs.

      What I dont get is the new Outlander has a "type 2" AC charging port, but they still put a (fropanity) CHAdeMO port in it for fast charging…. 75% of the plug was there for CCS2 charging… but nooooooo…

    • OceanMachine on 12/05/2024 - 14:47

      Chademo is unironically more convenient in 2024. At least here in Vic.
      All the DC chargers at servos have a CCS and ChaDeMo port. But because there are so many more CCS cars, a Chademo port is almost always free, and not unusual to see cars waiting to use the free CCS.
      Probably wont be the case for many more years, but if you intend to buy new car - then trade it in 5 years later, chademo would actually be more convenient.

  • Bid Sniper on 09/05/2024 - 14:18
    +2

    Depreciation on these are brual, like a lot of EVs

    https://www.grays.com/lot/0001-21025677/motor-vehiclesmotor-…

    Nissan should of sold the Note Nismo S hybrid here instead.

    • JackFrost on 09/05/2024 - 14:20
      +3

      It's far worse than other EVs. With CHAdeMO you've ended up with Betamax while the whole country is installing VHS.

  • THICKnSLOW on 09/05/2024 - 14:52
    +3

    If you offer the Nissan Leaf for $29,990 I would consider it.

    • kaikor on 09/05/2024 - 15:55

      There are lots of dumb@ss on carsales still on ripoff prices and haven't update with this deal yet

  • T-man on 09/05/2024 - 14:55

    I can't trust the quality from one of the very anti-EV Japanese car companies.

  • Kingston on 09/05/2024 - 15:01
    -1

    The issue with electric car is that insurance is high, the resale value is quite bad and it start with high cost in term of the vehicle purchase price. Unless you have solar at home it will still cost both your pocket and the environment. The reason why there are more discount is that they have more stock in the inventory and have to get rid of.

  • Creamsoda on 09/05/2024 - 15:02
    +2

    Not a deal. A product that's using 6 year old tech and selling it for a premium isn't bargain. Its like paying 20% off for an full RRP IPHONE 7.

    • PlaunsJanus on 09/05/2024 - 19:57

      What is the 6 year old tech about?
      Was considering the leaf as a work commuter but I thought most EVs, even Tesla's model S had not changed significantly since 2017 or so

      Edit*
      I did read the comment from maxbon which provided a some better information

      • FOX on 09/05/2024 - 21:31
        -1

        Inability to process information is your virtue lol

        • PlaunsJanus on 09/05/2024 - 21:56

          There was no factual information in your comment. Just a vague comparison.
          I don't appreciate the reply

  • JetLi on 09/05/2024 - 16:45

    Nissan aircons are rubbish

  • gza222 on 09/05/2024 - 19:26

    … you forgot to mention it’s pig-dog ugly.

  • SpaceNinja on 09/05/2024 - 22:01

    40k for Junk.

  • Mr Bob Dobalina on 10/05/2024 - 06:45

    I remember sitting in the original Leaf and putting the seat all the way back and I still didn't really have enough legroom (I'm 186cm). Have they fixed this with the 2nd gen model?

  • vaper on 10/05/2024 - 08:15
    -1

    So many BYD shills ITT trying to validate their shitty Chinese junk purchases.

  • Retarded Lunatic on 10/05/2024 - 09:34

    why are the ranges so little… i mean it would be lucky to last a day with me …… and would need a charge everyday for the next day….

    • klaw81 on 10/05/2024 - 09:41
      +3

      why are the ranges so little

      Range is low because the battery is small. Battery is small to keep cost down.

      That said, this is a particularly small, low-tech battery and I would not recommend this particular vehicle for that reason. There are better options, with longer range and superior technology, available for the same price elsewhere.

      would need a charge everyday for the next day

      Why is that a problem? You plug in your phone overnight when you're not using it - why not your car also? It would almost certainly be a significant cost saving, for something that takes very little effort and 30 seconds to do.

      • Retarded Lunatic on 10/05/2024 - 09:45

        why is charging a problem everyday - because i couldn't be bothered or i might forget. If im going to upgrade from petrol to EV i want less maintenance and work involved with same or better range with less costs for me, that makes sense otherwise whats the point of upgrading.. so ill wait till the ranges get to 1000/km a charge.

        • klaw81 on 10/05/2024 - 10:39
          +2

          why is charging a problem everyday - because i couldn't be bothered or i might forget

          Do you forget to charge your phone? Do you consider it a burden to plug your phone in at night? This is not difficult stuff - you just pop the plug into the car as you walk past - it takes maybe 20 seconds. The car charges while you sleep and is full every morning.

          This is an under-rated benefit of EVs - I can't say enough how convenient it is to never need to pop into a servo on the way to somewhere, especially when you're in a hurry.

          i want less maintenance and work involved

          EVs are already much lower maintenance than petrol. They have virtually zero servicing requirements.

          If you consider putting a plug into the side "maintenance" than I don't know what to tell you.

          less costs for me

          An EV would almost certainly save you a lot in running costs. My own estimate is about $1500 in savings per year, compared to my previous economical turbo-diesel hatchback.

          ill wait till the ranges get to 1000/km a charge

          That's a pretty ambitious expectation.

          The size of battery required to achieve that kind of range would escalate the cost by <$15k, and make the vehicle at least 500kg heavier - and for what? Just so you don't need to plug in so often?

          To be clear, I don't recommend buying a car like this one, with a real world range of ~220km highway driving - it's just too small to make any sense. But there are other cars in this class and price bracket with a range around 400km, which is far more practical.

          • Retarded Lunatic on 10/05/2024 - 14:45
            +1

            @klaw81: everything you have highlighted i dont want simple. As for using my phone and plugging it in everyday i dont need too and if i forget i can plug it in at work or in the car, unfortunately you cant do that with an EV. If you forget to plug it in your pretty much screwed the next day. I dont want to pay to change habits simple. if i can charge every 3 days ill be happy thats why 1000km. When you say pop into a servo it aint going to take 5 mins to fill and leave like a petrol car. Time is money. I dont have time to wait around while it charges that just sounds so counter productive of buying an EV. I understand the running costs is cheaper thats fine.

            • klaw81 on 10/05/2024 - 16:23
              +1

              @Retarded Lunatic:

              if i can charge every 3 days ill be happy thats why 1000km

              You will never be able to justify the extra cost of buying a car with that kind of range. If it ever exists (and I assume it will, at some point in the distant future) it will be rare and very expensive, and badly compromised due to the extra weight.

              I dont want to pay to change habits

              I guess you're bound for disappointment then.

              There were plenty of people who refused to get a smartphone when they were relatively new, because you have to charge them every night instead of the battery lasting a week. And look where we are now…..

              • Retarded Lunatic on 10/05/2024 - 19:09
                -1

                @klaw81: i didnt know you had a crystal ball basically everything you said is all horseshit… who knows what the future holds if it happens great if it doesnt work out to what i want but im sure there will be other alternatives. you used iphone analogy ill use crypto currency where people used to mine and now look at it - no one does it .. also why your at it look at solar too look how the industry has changed used to be expensive now its cheap as chips and the rebates are awesome.

            • Nom on 10/05/2024 - 20:16
              +1

              @Retarded Lunatic:

              When you say pop into a servo

              You don't need to pop into a servo with your EV - it already charged overnight whilst you were sleeping.

              Time is money. I dont have time to wait around while it charges

              BINGO.

              As already mentioned, this is one of biggest advantages of EVs, you no longer need to spend time waiting around in servos. You definitely don't need to wait around while it charges - cos it does that while you sleep.

              • Retarded Lunatic on 10/05/2024 - 21:22

                @Nom: assuming you charge it the night before and if not…back to previous point already covered.

            • Nom on 10/05/2024 - 20:29

              @Retarded Lunatic:

              everything you have highlighted i dont want simple.

              You don't want to save money and save refueling time, and have less maintenance ? You just said these were the things you did want ?

              If you forget to plug it in your pretty much screwed the next day.

              You're also screwed the next day when you forget to go to work.
              Not sure what this has to do with anything - if you're forgetting things regularly I'm sure you already have a reminder system.

              I dont want to pay to change habits simple.

              What habits? Are you saying you'd rather keep the habit of wasting time spending more money filling up with petrol at the servo ?!

              if i can charge every 3 days ill be happy thats why 1000km.

              You're driving 300KM on an average day ? Holy shit, I salute you Sir ! Assuming they're work days, that's around 70,000KM per year !!

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