Tesla Model Y also dropped its price on Model Y RWD and LR. Same price for Performance.
Prices above exclude on-road costs (varying per state).
Tesla Model Y: RWD $62,700 (Was $65,700), LR $71,700 (Was $74,700) + On-Road Costs @ Tesla
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I say it again…the Y should be priced at $50,000
in 12 months it will be at this rate
Rav4 hybrid alone cost more than 50k
Why do Tesla add a Delivery Fee of $1,400 and an Order fee of $400? Why can't they add those charges to the car price? Just curious.
Tricking customers that's why
No they don't add a Delivery Fee of $1,400 and an Order fee of $400.
It is included in the base vehicle price ($62,700)Most dealerships do it
Oh, I didn't know that, haven't bought a new car :)
Due to the launch of Xiaomi's SU7 electric vehicle, competition in the EV market in China has intensified.
According to industry data tracked by Citi analyst Jeff Chung, Tesla's sales in China in the first week of April were only 1,880 units, a week-on-week decrease of 89% and a month-on-month decrease of 86%.
For the price range around aud50k, Model 3/Y is probably the worst equipped EV in China market today, let alone other PHEV rivals with more flexibility on charging.
they are launching new vehicles all the time it won't be just Xiaomi
I bet not many people in Aus even know Huawei makes EVs and also BYD's luxury brand Denza
Denza D9 I've sat in one they are so good
chinese EV cars are pretty amazing. for tesla price you can get a Xpeng/Nio/Denza etc that have so much more equipment functions and gimmicks. you get an AR headset with Nio. there's snooze mode with one button lie flat seat recline and privacy windows etc
wow, same price as a BMW but not as good.
I wanted ix2 but where are you getting the same price? Can’t even get it under lct
prices dropping just like their shares! lol give it a year and it'll be sub 50k. BYD kicking them to the kerb right now.
So the Y (RWD) was $74k (pre-order) in 2022, then $70,700 in jan 2023, $67,200 in July 2023, $65,700 in April 2024, now $62,700 a couple of weeks later. Madness……what happens to people who bought them late year (for $5k more) let alone those that paid $3k more a couple of weeks ago!!
Nothing.. they paid whatever they paid
People with a pending order that hasn't been allocated a car yet or been paid for in full get the price discounts. But if you've paid for the car and been allocated a VIN bad luck. (Please correct me if I'm wrong)
Wow, that's pretty reasonable, every other car company would just laugh at us.
Yeah some things online about people getting a refund of the discount up to 7 days after taking delivery.
Just got confirmation for a relative with a VIN allocation and fully paid invoice…their invoice will be readjusted and refund given of the difference.
Email was sent out.
I’m waiting for a provider to facilitate the purchase of EV via a Novated lease. i.e. start a lease and then cancel and buy out after a few days, with them pocketing maybe $1,000 for the effort but without all the hidden fees and rigmarole.
How much better off are you by doing this instead of buying outright? Ive been looking at novated leases but didnt know there was an advantage to paying it off early.
You'd basically save on GST (~$6k). If you held the novated lease you'd also save income tax (circa $10k if you depreciated to 50% and were taxed at 40%)
Sadly the entirety of the saving is hoovered up by the leasing co and you end up with little better than, effectively, a 0% loan.
Please save yourself, you are totally wrong on all fronts.
You can save significantly more than an interest free loan, and you will not save anything cancelling the lease. You will still need to pay GST on the lease payments (which will be calculated in the lease break) and the residual value, so you will end up paying more than buying outright.
my fortnightly payments to the lease are pre tax.. so 750 pre tax, impact to pay 460 something.
Brand names of EVs are becoming more and more like cheap Chinese electrical appliances!!!
Well most evs are coming out of China… There's tons of brands we have never heard off … Check out xiaomi attempt at a porsche lol… It was really hyped up in China
Denza!
Still only a 4 year warranty.
Chinese EV's are built way better than any murican shit boxes. Murican shit boxes are top notch compared to anything built by a company run by an apartheid profiting racist petulant man child space karen musky boi
@bigpoppa - Whoa whoa whoa.. I am lol after reading your description of Elon.
Why a space karen?
idk ask his employees. they were the one that gave the apartheid profiting racist petulant man child space karen musky boi her titles
I’m a bit confused by what you’re trying to say… are you saying the Shanghai made Tesla cars are better than anything Tesla makes?
lol made in Shanghai does not elevate a snake oil shit box to the superior quality of a Chinese car. Nice try though
Factory is in shanghai, but they have a lower failure rate than the Texan ones, and are on par with the European factory. I don't see an issue tbh
Whether you acknowledge it or not, China is producing some of the best EVs in the world. And any EV that anyone buys, even if it's not made in China, definitely involves the Chinese supply chain.
They produce EV period. Have a look at their UI and software accuracy and safety. Their AWB doesn’t work, GPS faiculte, lane change detect ghost cars. It’s all over YouTube.
Try to protest at the car show to warn other drives. Your car is disabled when you are near the exhibition area.
No privacy where the car monitors your movement and your conversations. Any sensitive phrase is log and trigger alerts to the authorities. And what you do in your car is also captured and uploaded to the cloud.
No thanks!
Unless you will never buy an EV car. Tesla is also banned from entering sensitive areas around the world.
Some of the issues with AWB and GPS are because people scrutinize Chinese-made products under a microscope, especially in the United States where there's a particular need for such propaganda to keep Chinese EVs out of the Port of Los Angeles and protect their industries. If you have the chance to see the extent of electric vehicle development on the streets of China, you would see a different world.
@flypig: Going to car exhibition to let others know you bought a lemon is not a sensitive issue. People have the rights to know. Car manufacturers disable cars when near exhibitions area is beyond belief.
Tesla is under a microscope from traditional ICE maker. But they don’t seem to have as many software or car safety feature issues as the Chinese EVs.
They have loads of features but they are cars after all. Primary mode is safety and reliability. Chinese EV seems to over look that. The primary purpose is feature not safety.
@flypig: The biggest issue so far I’ve found as a consumer is the shitty software on their car. I remember sitting in one of the Byd Atto3 in Chadstone thinking it seemed like a decent car.
Then I tried the centre console, and was horrified by how awful the UX/UI was. Also really laggy.
Then I tried again with Polestar. Also even hired one for a day. Actually quite enjoyed driving the car, but the software really wasn’t good. I’m aware its based on Android, but maybe that’s why it just doesn’t work as well on a car, compared to Tesla’s?
Privacy in China?
Yeah that hasn't been around for a long time now
I'm not against Chinese EV's, pretty much evey electronic applicane I own is made there, but as JV pointed out;
BYD Dolphin Dynamic: $38,890
GWM Ora Standard Range: $39,990
MG 4 Excite 51: $39,990
MG ZS EV Excite: $41,990
BYD Atto 3 Standard Range: $48,011
BYD Seal Dynamic Standard Range: $49,888
$67K is a lot to donate to the tesla mothership just for the badge when compared to a similar appliance from BYD or MG, $20-30K overpriced in the market.well, a friend has a MG ZS and it gets about 260km range. It also drives like utter shit and has the shittest sofware ever. Our standard Y gets 430km.
Another friend has a BYD atto and it gets 380km, but the software is nowhere near as good, and it sure as heck isn't remotely as roomy as our Y. Not even close.
Just listing the prices as if they are identical cars is absurd.
Are you referring to the ones manufactured in Texas? Ones made in the gigafactory typically don't have the same issues. The brand also has an Aussie on the board, and seem to be trying to distance themselves from Elon.
Are you seriously saying EV drivers are Trump supporters? Dumbest shit i've read on the internet in a loooooooooooooong time.
Elon has pushed away anyone originally willing to go for Teslas away due to his fascism. No one wants Teslas now due to either his green stance or his red stance…
due to his fascism
Why is that people who use that word almost never understand what it means?
@1st-Amendment: Actually in this context it is probably correct - meaning authoritarian supporting and nationalistic right wing ideology.
Cant speak for anyone else, but Musk at the helm was a massive consideration when we were looking at getting an EV. Just couldnt quite bring myself to buy one of "his" cars.
Say anything negative about Tesla and the fan boys unite
So making a ev car is quite easy compared to ICE car, so more companies will start making them and become than ICE soon. Just need to hold tiet till then
It’s probably easier to make one, but it’s also obvious that it’s hard to get the price down. Automation is the main reason existing companies are spending billions moving across to making more EV.
I love how there are so many against Tesla and for Chinese cars that are no where to be seen in China. Like saw 0 MG. But go ahead and tell me how good a car that Chinese people wouldn’t buy is.
Is Tesla worth the 12k premium over a chinese EV?
No
You'd trust a bunch of people on here? Many are political idealogues, the others have probably never driven any EV.
Drive the cars you're interested in, watch review vids from reputable sources, weigh up the pros/cons.No
What are you comparing it to? Tesla Model Y is more expensive than a BYD Atto 3 but is a considerably larger car, with much better performance and longer range. Depending on your priorities, you may not consider those advantages to be worth the extra money, but they're not really in the same class.
Tesla Model 3 and BYD Seal are similar size and are priced about the same for comparable spec. Not much of a premium there.
Forbes 5/9’23: UBS engineers tested BYD Seal & concluded superior engineering, with 15% price edge over Tesla & 30% edge over European incumbents.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilwinton/2023/09/05/byd-intro…
If BYD Seagull comes to AU it will be the best-value EV with better sodium battery (exterior size like Yaris for parking, interior size of Corolla ;)
Buy an FGX ecopli 4.0 with 80 000km, and get another 200,000 out of it before the rear suspension goes.
Otherwise buy a Corolla, or a korean disposable with a 7 year warranty
Is Tesla worth the 12k premium over a chinese EV?
Personal preference, different people value different aspects differently. Common comparison, can be made between Apple and Android phones.
Personally, yes the 12K(not sure compared to what) premium is.
IMHO, it won't be long when some car brands are banned from entering sensitive high security locations.
Just a question for those who have an Electric car: Are electric cars good for road trips? For example, if we want to go from Melbourne to Sydney, will Tesla have enough charge? If not, are there enough places to charge the car? I have also heard it takes about 2 hours to fully charge.
Just asking to see if Electric cars are suitable for my condition. Thank youIt’s not good for more than 5-700km. Plenty of spaces to charge. It does not take 2 hours to charge for a fast charger.
even charging 30mins is still too much tbh
hope that it can be reduced to 10mins once solid state battery is being usedIt takes around 10 minutes to fill up a car to full and pay, do you actively work an entire day with no rest?
@sunnyc: 10mins is fine if spaces are available
my friend who drove a Tesla Model Y drove from Syd to Mel last year
and when he reached his "planned" charing place, there's 4 cars waiting in front of him
took him nearly 2 hours just waited to get charged (with 2 kids waiting in the car till 11pm)@randomguy1: just a story I heard from my friend, not sure its a tesla supercharging port or other chargers
a lightning incident caused some charging spaces not working and cars all piped up to another spaces
It happened in Nov 2023
It takes around 10 minutes to fill up a car to full
Lies.
Tesla's website says '275 kilometers of range in just 15 minutes'. So not '10 minutes' and not 'full'. Assuming a Melbourne to Sydney road trip you'll be stopping at least 4 times and hoping a free charger is available each time, or it could take you two days to get there.
@1st-Amendment: He's obviously talking about filling up a petrol car. It already takes 10 mins to fill up a petrol car. An extra 10-15 mins on top of that for charging isn't that big of a deal as you need to take a break every couple of hours of driving anyway.
Saying that, I don't think EV is suitable if you travel long distances regularly.
It already takes 10 mins to fill up a petrol car
Have you ever filled up a car with petrol? I reckon it's 2 minutes max.
An extra 10-15 mins on top of that for charging isn't that big of a deal
Well a lot of cars can drive Melbourne to Sydney without needing to refill, or maybe once, so it is to some people.
you need to take a break every couple of hours of driving anyway.
And the key difference is you can choose at your leisure where and when to do this. With an EV you are forced to plan your trip around charging stations then praying there are no queues. That sort of ruins the whole 'hitting the open road' experience.
Usually when I do a road trip, I make spontaneous side trips to whatever interests me along the way. This is what makes road trips fun. Imagine not being able to do that because you might end up stranded somewhere.I don't think EV is suitable if you travel long distances regularly.
Even irregularly. I do a long road trip maybe twice a year. That is enough to not get an EV.
It's the same reason SUV's are popular. Most people don't need the space for 95% of the time. But it's the 5% makes the purchase worthwhile.
@1st-Amendment: I've never been able to drive any of the 5 petrol cars I have owned from melb to sydney on one tank. Sometimes not even two tanks in the smaller cars.
I don't own an EV.
I've never been able to drive any of the 5 petrol cars
Ever owned a diesel? 1000km+ range is fairly normal.
https://www.carsales.com.au/editorial/details/skoda-superb-t…
https://www.carexpert.com.au/car-comparisons/1400km-870-mile…@1st-Amendment: Everyone's use cases are different, obviously you are the more adventurous type and of course you wouldnt want range to be an issue for you. Obviously EV is not the choice for you and normal petrol/diesel/hybrid would be a better choice.
If you tow anything at all for a large distance, again EV is not the choice.
For most people, who drive within their cities, EVs are a great choice. Charge at home to full every night, no need to go to fill up and pay $$$ for fuel nowadays. Little to no servicing. There are benefits to EVs that other people see that you may not.
I drove from Melbourne to Canberra and only stopped twice, (5 and 25mins). Our car was not even the long range model. We weren't even able to finish our lunch by the time the car was full.
Most people who have bought in are pretty happy with their experience, and usually arent too worried about range especially when they charge at home.
@1st-Amendment: I haven't owned one. That is some impressive range. But 66 litres at over $2 a litre makes my eyes water!
@sunnyc: You charge a ev, you fill up a petrol car. Paying for ev charging is direct debited from the app
if you want to travel melb-syd you will be fine with super chargers. charging time depends on the charger type, tesla super chargers usually take 10-30 min, ideally you'll be charging until 80-90% before heading off to nextstation/destination..
Are electric cars good for road trips?
Longer distance road trips, you will need to determine whether the inconvenience of charging would suit your needs. If you're travelling very long distances every day, like 200K's or more, then it would be more important, versus a holiday trip every couple of months.
For example, if we want to go from Melbourne to Sydney, will Tesla have enough charge?
Tesla won't be able to complete the trip in a single charge, that being said, I hope you are taking breaks whilst you are driving - which is a 9hour arive alone.
If not, are there enough places to charge the car?
Since this post is about Tesla, this response is specific to Tesla. Tesla navigation includes information about maps, your destination, your battery and available charging locations. You can use this site from tesla, which allows you to enter your destination from where you are, and it will tell you where you need stop to charge and for how long.
Based on your trip, you'll need three stops for 20-25 min charge each. that means you need so each stretch would be about 2hrs before you need to stop to charge, which is already generally considered how long anyone should be driving before taking a break (2 hours).
I have also heard it takes about 2 hours to fully charge.
Charging speed is not linear, from lower states of charge its faster, normally the last few bits of capacity, it will slow down - which is probably why 20 min charge would give you enough charge to get to the next charging station.
Thanks :)
So we have only EVs in the household. Tesla model 3 and BMW iX. We only ever take the BMW out on road trips due to the road noise from the Tesla on the Hume Highway, as well as how uncomfortable it is for the rear passengers.
Melbourne to Sydney is generally not too much of an issue as long as you stop at appropriate towns (euroa, Albury). Tesla charger network is more reliable, but Chargefox generally has fast chargers at the same sites. Charging is usually only about 30 mins IF you heat up the battery, and there is a spot to charge. You may also find the charger that is actually free is a bit slower, and that’s where it might be 2 hours.
If you do melb to sydney on the regular its probably not a good idea. Rarely, then it might be worth the inconvenience.
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Sorta relevant i see that Toyota are offering lease from about $150per month on their BZ4X EV in the US. There's no balloon at end of 36 month lease either Just hand it back after paying less
Thats gotta put pressure on Tesla's price.Actually it's $119 USD or $184 AUD per month with $3999 due at signing.
Hand it back? So you basically just pay $5400 ($1800pa) to "loan" the car for 3 years? Does it include insurance, rego etc?
Does it include insurance, rego etc?
A lease normally would since you don't own the car, and it's the owner pays for this stuff.
The Australian version (full expense lease) is bonkers expensive. 3 year outlay of around $65k - at which point you need to hand the car back. Madness.
That’s because the BZ4X is absolute shit and no one is buying them. They have car lots full of them.
Half the price of the MY - $300/mth with $5k down on a 36mth 10,000mi. Still a cracking deal compared to what we have in Aus…
Any news on the 7 seat version of the Model Y in Australia?
As soon as china starts manufacturing them.
new price too