The extended range model is now even cheaper, $2000 less than last month's sale. 62kWh battery with up to 420km range.
$4000 off GWM Ora Extended Range: $36,990 Driveaway (Was $40,990) @ GWM
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MG base model has best battery as LFP. MG better styled and performance. But test drive both then decide, Ora isn’t selling very well as people can’t get past how it looks. Ora interior looks better imo.
Imo they look like garbage and I'd never buy one, but impressive you can buy a brand new EV for $37k!
I was looking at the side profile going what's he on about it looks fine, then I clicked the link… Those headlights 🤮.
Mini Blooper headlights
Yeah, I think it's mainly the headlights that throw me tbh
I think it looks great. Taste really is subjective.
Same. I think it sort of looks goofy but in a good way. Cars these days either go for the same old swooshy spear shape or the blocky box shape. GWM get credit for being a bit different here.
Given your comment history, I don't think you would buy any Chinese car even if you thought it looked good.
That's the thing with automotive designs.
If you nitpick, you will find similarities or "copies", in all cars. You think a car has original design? Most likely there are areas to say that it isn't.
Whether you call it out or not depends on the badge and person though / badge snobbery (among other thing).
Absolutely would buy a BYD - I think the Seal and Sealion SUV are some of the best looking cars on the road
Once the depreciation of EVs get a bit more stable, that's exactly what I'd be buying!
My opinion they don't look cohesive at all, aliexpress version of tesla
@xtommyk: Yeah I get that same impression. Initial glance is that it looks good, but then the longer you look, the more there's something about the lines that's not quite right. The Ora looks better IMO because the goofy factor is carried across the whole car so it gets away with the goofiness.
Also the YANGWANG U9 (not that I'd ever be able to afford one)
I really like the look. If I was shopping for a small run around EV this would be on the top ofy list to look at.
Personally I reckon this car looks fine style wise. The really hideous styling is the newish rectangular style from Japan from various makers. They look like they're made of Lego
Agreed - the new Toyota designs are terrible. Bring back the bland not bits and bobs poking out everywhere.
7yrs vs 10yrs on the MG
hatch vs. small suv
310km vs. 320km
ext. range is $1k more and it brings you to 420km (nice)
dumb not to get that
i mean i like petrol cars like most people but i mean enjoy that $2 petrol and sub 5yr warranty and the nagging feeling that something is about to go bang outside of warranty
If you don't use it for long distances, why carry around a heavier battery? A lighter weight car will usually be more efficient, and therefore cheaper to run
'Cos you can't add it later Phil. I used that logic when buying my car and regret it - the extra 80km or so doesn't sound like much (and doesn't matter 50 weeks per year), but if you do take it interstate occasionally, it's the difference between charging twice or four times on the drive over, as I can't quite skip to the next charger in a couple of places - I'd fall just short. An extra few dozen km would fix that…
that's a really great observation there and this is a a personal sort of justication you have to make
if its a 2nd car and you have a petrol main car then who cares
I checked Redbook and it seems like the cars weigh the same… ie. 1,540kg which I think is very fair for an EV
the battery is just a different model, one is 48, one is 63
there should be a bigger delta in pricing IMO
if it were me, the base model should be $29,990 out the door
the extended should be $34,990
that would make sense but right now i think GWM just cant shift the Ora so pricing is all out of wack
To be fair, I'd take a GWM over a MG
and sub 5yr warranty
A warranty is only as good as the company behind it. I know Toyota etc will still be here in 7 years, are you confident that all these Chinese brands still will? It's hard to think that the relatively small Australian market can sustain so many manufacturers long term.
And just following up on that, Iooked up the number of Chinese brands either here or planning to come here in the next 12 months:
Aion
BAIC
BYD
Changan
Chery
Dongfeng
GAC
Geely
GWM
Haval
Jaecoo
Jetour
LDV
Leapmotor
Lynk & Co
MG
NIO
SAIC
Skywell
Smart
Xpeng
ZeekrIt's hard to see how our small market can sustain 22 new car brands long term…
GWM and Haval are one brand in Australia. Have been for a few years now. Also, isn't Foton coming (back) here?
LOL that interior shot caught me off guard.
My local dealership had some for 33k. They were last year's models though, extended range as well. I reckon they could be 29990 by next year
Yep, I don't think anyone realises how quickly battery prices are dropping. Tony Seba predicted $100USD per kWh by 2023 in 2014 when they were $300ish and everyone thought he was daft. That was the predicted point at which EV became similarly priced to ICE. It's $59USD per kWh this year. Google his recent presentation to the Saudis, his predictions are mind blowing (and usually end up happening)
Is it going to zero? If not it’s probably gonna reach a poin where it’s going to flat line, and car prices won’t be as sensitive to battery prices.
Wow 5 down votes for a totally valid comment.
I suspect at some point we'll see battery tariffs introduced but for now, we're in an energy transition phase and batteries need to be imported ASAP
Using the previous posters data, a 60kwh pack only costs $3600USD. Even if the price keeps dropping, it seems like there isn’t a ton of savings left to pass on from battery savings. We may get larger capacities though.
@loksmack: Totally agree, as battery prices fall we’re likely to be offered more range for similar price as the cost of providing it is small and benefits seem large.
But car prices can’t drop to zilch just coz we get ever cheaper batteries. Car price sensitivity to batteries will just diminish.
Chinese batteries, anyway.
Made in China, Ingredients from Australia.
Demos Selling for $28,990 at some dealers.
Although for the $ S/H you can get some older Ioniq, Kona or Tesla.
A few years ago was new EV at high $ or Japanese import Leafs.
Now ex fleet coming out and be more ex lease on sale.
Also unlike other countries the Chinese are coming hard into OZ as no tax.
Most of the car companies like VW etc selling in EU only still.Low $20k I look at one as a cheap city car, replace the old Impreza save like $3-4k a year in fuel
This is exactly what I'm looking for at the moment (or eventually at least). Have an ICE SUV as a primary car and looking to replace an old Ford Fiesta for a city runaround. Zero range anxiety and just wanting a sub-$30k EV hatch.
It looks like Fiat 500 with down syndrome
fiat 500 looks like fiat 500 with downs syndrome
Fiat 500’s are cool looking
Use your words, no need to say a car looks like a genetic disorder.
Too right. It looks like a Fiat 500 with foetal alcohol syndrome
So it'll be featured in catalogues everywhere then.
China is very good at copying. Their high-end Xiaomi EV looks like a Porsche. https://www.news.com.au/technology/motoring/motoring-news/th…
62kWh battery with up to 420km range.
I know I spend too much time reading banal comments on this site because my first thought was "If this car just had an extra 7kWh it'd be perfect."
shut up and take my money.jpeg
Not perfect, but it would be nice
Can you plug this into your house to power your house? Also, can you plug a Miele vacuum cleaner into this and power the vacuum directly?
Doesn't look like it, the terms to look for are V2L, V2G and V2H for reference
Land? Garage? House?
Load, grid, home
A Miele wouldn't be seen dead taking power from this. Try a house brand from Big W.
if you want that, get a BYD.
V2L - power point in car
V2H - Power your house off the car
V2G - Feed power into the grid from your car.V2G/V2H only currently possible with Nissan Leaf, Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV & Eclipse Cross PHEV (current model) and you need a more expensive bi directional charger for your house. IIRC those cars use a different charging plug to what is commonly used in other brands Tesla BYD etc..
The technology for doing so with other cars is coming, but it may not be backwards compatible to cars currently in the market. I know there are some which will only require a software upgrade and others from the same manufacturer which it won't be possible.
My understanding in the delays getting it going bigger picture come down to standards for the technology being slow to be ratified but happy for someone who knows more on the topic to correct me.
Really anyone who needs a smaller car only for commuting or the just inner city driving these mid $30k EV deals are unbeatable.
There is not much left that is decent you can buy in the ICE world for less than $30k and increasingly $40k.
I don’t get all the hate for EVs, no-one is forcing you to buy one ……… yet.
well you see… they are chinese and really, can you trust them???
and in other news you can get a stripper poverty spec hundai i30 for $29,990 and you well know hyundai kia have a sterling reputaiton as far as n/a 2.0 engines go!
and by 'go!' i mean boom
for how good hyundai has become those 2.0 units are shocking. their aftersales support for the obvious engine fault for them is second to Jeep (i.e. non-existent)
You can’t even get a stripper poverty spec hundai i30 for $29,990 anymore.
Hyundai moved production from Korea to the EU and the cheapest i30 here is about $40k.
The ICE world under $40k is shrinking and getting loaded with compliance crap while the EV world is growing
BTW, I am hearing good things about the reliability of cheap Chinese cars, at least the ones that are exported. European EVs? Not so much!
funny enough the EV that caught fire in South Korea was a Mercedes EQE, not Chinese.
https://www.drive.com.au/news/officials-call-emergency-meeti…
@ymmf: my feelings about the China EVs vs. base spec trad ICE cars is that for most people, especially here, $30k for a new car isnt small money. It'd be a LARGE lifetime expense for many.
And so trad companies treat you like a poor slob with a skint poverty spec $30k rental car. The REALLY want you to go to a $40k mid spec or a $50k loaded car. That's a tad disrespectful.
The Chinese are at least giving you a pretty damn loaded car for $29,990.
Maybe its because they're used to selling to the 3rd world and their own population who havent had 50-75yrs of trad companines screwing them over.
You'll probably still get screwed over somehow but not in the 'trad' way.
@tonyjzx: The Chinese companies are trying to disrupt the market. And their cost base is lower given the amount of automation that can be achieved in factories. So I don't see $30k as an issue. In China it's EV everywhere anyway so it's just the norm.
@ymmf: The Chinese companies are trying to enter the international car market. Chinese companies are China.
The USA and EU are trying to protect their protected and subsidised car market. Some EU governments also own equity in car companies and passed laws making unions often almost more powerful than shareholders.
No-one here has any moral superiority.
You'll probably still get screwed over somehow but not in the 'trad' way.
It's not really you that's getting screwed, so much that China benefits massively from making electric vehicles and renewables cheaper than ICE vehicles and fossil fuels.
It's not because they're communist greenies (they are neither), but because:
China has few to no fossil fuel resources of its own, so it is extremely vulnerable to trade disruption. However, it gets (profanity) of sunlight, wind and rain. By making renewable energy and electric vehicles cheap, they secure their energy independence.
The current world order is almost literally dictated by who controls oil, which is the United States and a bunch of tinpot kingdoms. By making renewable energy and electric vehicles cheap, they undermine this world order.
Chinas exports were floundering as foreign companies diversified after COVID and a decade of misguided and honestly rather un-Chinese "wolf warrior diplomacy". By making the cheapest solar panels, wind turbines, etc. they turn their excess manufacturing capacity into an energy export industry which few to no other countries can beat on price.
China has few to no fossil fuel resources of its own, so it is extremely vulnerable to trade disruption. However, it gets (profanity) of sunlight, wind and rain. By making renewable energy and electric vehicles cheap, they secure their energy independence.
That applies to Australia as well.
anyone who needs a smaller car only for commuting or the just inner city driving these mid $30k EV deals are unbeatable.
Just using my own circle of friends and family as a test group, there's no-one there buying a $37k car for such things. In every case, when someone wants 'a smaller car only for commuting or the just inner city driving' they go for a cheap second hand banger (ie <$15k).
That's not to say that this market doesn't exist, but there are plenty of options in this segment that beat this.
Specs on sheet don't look bad….that appearance though, what were they thinking
That’s what you get when you get the head of a German sports car - Porsche - to design your car style.
I actually like the styling. Gives off Mini and Fiat 500 vibes. It's interesting, it's got it own look and its looks matches its neat proportions. I think it's far better looking than the MG 4 which doesn't have a single good angle imo. Par back the over styling on the MG4 and it's still an ugly and poorly proportioned car. Only reason I'd get the MG4 is because it's just better value, better range, better power, more space and practical, that said, I would never get an MG4 because of the looks
$35,490 if you have an ABN.
If your employer does novated leasing, you'd be well on top. Just think, you won't have to track the weekly fuel price cycle. Energy retailers have good rates for charging EV overnight.
Or if you're with OVO Energy, free charging from 11 am - 2 pm and discounted off-peak from 12am - 6am. Paying the higher daily supply rate is well worth it if you can time your charging and do laundry/dishwashing during these periods.
I mean you'd still get an MG4 (it will drive better) or a Byd dolphin (better in every other way)
$35,990.00 Driveaway price for private buyers in QLD
They really need to put this in a car with a standard exterior design, same issue as the BYD Dolphin…. I'd sooner buy one if it looked like a Lada
This or the MG ZS EV Excite?