Tesla Model Y also dropped its price on Model Y RWD and LR. Same price for Performance.
Prices above exclude on-road costs (varying per state).
Tesla Model Y: RWD $62,700 (Was $65,700), LR $71,700 (Was $74,700) + On-Road Costs @ Tesla
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Had a test Tesla for a day recently. Reminded me of my gocart I had 50 years ago.
Video review of new tesla hardware 4 model
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1g1okoQJEEAlso new version has half the ram and storage
https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/15nj1n7/hw3_vs…Not sure EV or Hybrid for my next car.
IMO the best way to make this decision is to look at your driving patterns and take notice of whether you would need to drive differently if you chose an EV.
How often do you drive more than 350km in a single day? If it's any further than that, most EVs would require you to stop and charge for at least 20 minutes somewhere along the way.
How often do you drive to locations where public EV fast chargers are rare or non-existent? They're in a surprising number of locations and often fairly "hidden" so don't just assume there are none. The best way to check is to consult Plugshare website and look around your common routes - ignoring the slow chargers at hotels etc and only consider fast chargers.
Finally, how difficult would it be to charge your car at home? If you have a garage or carport with nearby power points, you'll probably be okay……unless you drive longer distances regularly and will need faster charging than a standard 10A power point can sustain. Relying on public chargers can work, but is typically more expensive and much less convenient.
If you decide that any of the above scenarios are a problem, then an EV might not suit your needs yet and a hybrid will give you improved running costs. If you find you mostly make a lot of short trips (daily commute) then perhaps a plug-in hybrid would give you 80% of the benefits of an EV.
My method was to spend 6-months making an assessment - each time I drove somewhere, I spent 30 seconds thinking about how that trip might be different in an EV. If I made several short trips in quick succession, would they have added up to more than my assumed ~350-400km range? If I made a longer trip, were there chargers along the way or near my destination? Would I have to take a different route? What if I wanted to spontaneously go a more scenic route, or take a detour to visit someone?
I quickly figured out that almost nothing would change, and my experience since buying an EV has backed that up - I have a single semi-regular trip in which I need to take a slightly longer route to hit a charger along the way, but the charger is roughly where I would normally take a short break anyway, so it's no inconvenience.
I agree with Klaw81. Tow large loads long distances all the time? Hybrid. Drive over 400km monthly? Hybrid. No place to park and charge the car while at home? I suggest Hybrid. Otherwise EVs are pretty great. Esp if you have solar on the roof (get that first if you want to save money fast)
Also EVs are at their best in city driving when a fair amount of energy is recovered through the regen.
Range tends to suffer at highway speeds so you'd be better off with a hybrid if you do a lot of this. Also it saves on having to work out where and how long you'll need to spend charging along the way.
Range tends to suffer at highway speeds so you'd be better off with a hybrid if you do a lot of this
Strongly disagree with this statement.
EV range does tend to be shorter during highway driving, but that isn't a bad thing in itself.
Hybrids are also more efficient in city driving than highway driving, and driving a hybrid at highway speeds doesn't really get much better fuel economy than an equivalent ICE vehicle.
The further you drive, the more savings you will get from an EV, assuming that you can still charge at home most of the time - frequently needing to use public fast chargers doesn't work out that much cheaper than petrol or diesel.
The highway range of an EV should simply be a factor in vehicle selection in the first place, which is why I recommend assessing your own driving patterns in my original post and considering the possible changes that EV adoption would require.
A daily commute of 150km each way that's mostly highway driving is something the average EV will do with aplomb and be super economical - far cheaper and (with home charging each night) way more convenient than any hybrid can hope to achieve.
@klaw81: Fair enough.
assuming that you can still charge at home most of the time
That's a big if that only the OP can answer. If he/she is driving 300km during the day an 8-12 hour overnight charge on mains alone probably won't be enough to replenish the battery unless they also invest in a dedicated charger.
Who wants to buy this piece of crap when one can afford Porsche 911 hahaha :D
who wants a poverty grade porsche 911 when you can drive a Bugatti Veyron? yeah I can internet too
The Saudi Oil Sheikh thanks you for your ongoing patronage. Better he gets your hard earned money, than mine.
Or supporting polluters like Chevron that paid no tax
https://michaelwest.com.au/chevron-massive-profit-no-tax-aga…
Insurance is a killer on these. $3500 a year where I am even when locked in a garage.
Mine is less than a third of that. YMMV
Which company?
Allianz (note: Model 3, not Model Y)
I paid $1200
Which company?
NRMA but everyone’s situation is different
My insurance was $2,000. And because it was purchased through a novated lease it was effectively $1,100.
I saw your post earlier about NL..Are you on the top income bracket or could it also work at about $85k per year? How many years are you on?
Yes top bracket, there will be some benefit at $85k but it will be less (32.5% vs 45%). This calculator gives you a pretty good idea of what your out of pocket costs would be:
https://www.smartleasing.com.au/calculate-your-savings
I took a 5 year lease.
lots of weird EV hate, not just on here but everywhere.
Petrol is $2.30 today lol
1.8x if you're not too picky on 711 petrol.
So many lemmings
hey all, can anyone tell me if I order one of these now whether it will have an indicator stalk?
Yes, the current Model Y will. The next Model Y (Codename: Juniper) may not.
Im in NSW, correct me if Im wrong - seems to have been another price drop - LR now sub $70k plus on roads, others too!
Unfortunately Elon needs to price these at $50k if he wants to keep the numbers up and his factories busy and not lay more people off
Demand has already slowed down
More Chinese junk.