Normally costs around $190+. Part of the "Save 10% on any 3" and "Save 5% on any 2" promotion if you can find other qualifying items.
Edit: Price increased to $166.12 from $165.99
CamelCamelCamel.
Rougher, I just bought this a few days ago! - for $209 (Scorptec)
Also I bought a matx mobo instead of a mini……oh well guess ill have somewhere to put my old 1070 in!
Rip… haha
People still buy at Scorptec? Everything's overpriced lmao.
Great price, and a great chip as a EOL upgrade for your AM4 media PC or for kids, parents etc.
Which AM4 chip do you think would be worth replacing for this?
3200g or lower. You should be noticing that your last gen is feeling slow before updating to this. If last gen not struggling not worth getting this.
Good for cheap and easy new builds for kids and normal day to day work. Go cheap on:
* RAM
* Motherboard
* Case
* RAM
* SSD
Go mid-range for Power supply. It's an APU so no graphics card needed.
But you are limiting your future as it only has PCIe 3.0. Would be dumb getting this in 2024, unless theres no need for PCIe 4.0.
@Gronkmaster69: *most non-hardcore gamers, and select professionals (eg. Office people, etc) can't tell the diff between 3.0 and 4.0
Your nvme ssd at 3.0 will be fine for most tasks. Some of those newer SSDs that have speeds in excess of 5000MB/s you don't need and they get extra hot too.
Anything first or second gen, any 3XXXG, 3500x, 3500, 3300x and 3100
Have a few of these and it's a solid mid-range performer. Basic 1080p gaming and 6 cores enough for most day to day work. It's 65W so good for servers that do a variety of tasks (NAS, Media server, Firewall).
I have 3600. Is this worth an upgrade ? Game at 1440p with a 1070
Yes, in scenarios where your CPU is the bottleneck.
GPU first, then a 5700X3D if you're getting CPU bottlenecked. Exception is if you're playing one of the few CPU-bound games (Strategy/MMOs/EFT/etc..), then get the 5700X3D.
Dont by the 5600G at all if you are getting a GPU. The whole point of the G is onboard GPU.
Nah invest in a GPU, 3600 is fine for 1440p.
It's only a little better than the 3600 in games.
How much do you think you can sell your 3600? Also, it isn't all upgrades if you go 5600G, PCIe gen 4 support is not available on 5600G so:
Good point. I don't even have gen4 on my mobo. I'll just wait for a new rig.
Prob get $30 for 3600
Used 3600 prices have gone up over the last year. On Marketplace $100-$110 now, up from $70-$80.
Then cancel the two books?
You sir, are a genius.
i think if you cancel they may up the price of the cpu (i know they do with free shipping, i assume its same). could return the book after you get it though?
Is it 150.98 now or have I done it wrong?
Mate, how does one search for more processors in Japan Amazon? I'm after the R7-7800X3D. Looking to see if it's discounted too.
Eh I think you just search for it on amazon.com.au. For a 7800x3d your best bet is probably to wait for an ebay deal from Computer Alliance or one of KaiSeng's many ebay stores. Or consider reaching out to metrocom and asking if their OEM deal will ever come back: https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/831077
Damn, didn't realize that deal expired, I was still shopping for a decent mobo deal. Though that might be a good thing since I don't quite need an upgrade yet.
Thanks mate.
I have ebay covered. I posted on that deal, local sellers for $580 delivered.
I want to cover Japan, and USA Amazon, in case something happens there.
anyone know of a cheap itx am4 board?
they are mostly discontinued
I just bought a Gigabyte B550M K AM4 mATX Motherboard (Normal) from centrecom for $109
itx
only seen itx boards from prebuilds. would be good to find an itx board still being sold
There are Asrock/Gigabyte ones for $200, but at that point you may as well spend a little more for AM5.
7800X3D is on sale here - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/256046392090
Just bought it for $556 AUD (eBay plus/ ZIP)
@Krepokrip
What pc specs you building please? Happy to be dm'd. I'm looking for build examples and advice around the 7800x3d. Tia.
AMD Ryzen 7800X3D CPU
Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX Motherboard
CORSAIR Vengeance RGB DDR5 RAM 64GB 6200 CL32 Memory
SK Hynix Platinum P41 SSD 1TB for OS drive
Lexar NM790 4TB Data/Gaming drive
GPU??? Haven't decided yet, probably Nvidia RTX 4070 ti or 4080
Amazing.
How much you getting that board for? I get $450.
I was thinking MSI mag tomahawk.
@lordra: Board prices are trash right now in Australia, without a really good deal on the CPU, maybe even better than the previous Metrocom 7800X3D deal I wouldn't bother too much, any savings on the CPU goes right back into the board. The Asrock B650M Pro RS is probably the best value general use board currently, and its easily one of the cheapest AM5 board available past the ewaste price bracket at $230 AUD, but its completely out of stock around the country with no ETA, as with other Asrock boards, and its been low stock for a while (back in December all the Pro RS Wifi were out of stock already)
The new Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX looks ok at $299, but only PCCaseGear has it listed for preorder currently, maybe more stores will stock it when it officially comes out, but its still $70 more than what the Pro RS was going for when not on sale, that's basically the price difference between the 7800X3D sales price and what it goes for normally.
@drilly: Not offensive but nothing special while being expensive. Get the Gigabyte DS3H if you were looking at that board
@[Deactivated]: I've had bad experiences in the past with Gigabyte so never touching them again, thanks for the recommendation though!
@lordra: Yeah nah that combo is awful pricing. The DS3H is $219 at basically every local vendors: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/7pytt6/gigabyte-b650m-ds…
@[Deactivated]: Thanks mate, good to know. I prefer a full size board cos I have the space at home.
I was looking at the MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK.
That or these
1. MSI MPG B650 Edge
2. Asus TUF Gaming B650-Plus
3. Gigabyte B650 Aorus Pro AX
4. MSI MAG B650M Mortar
What do you think?
@tatsulotto
@lordra: B650 Eagle AX if you want ATX, on pre-order at PCCaseGear at the moment. B650 boards are pretty competent outside of the very low end outliers, so it makes the more expensive boards without defining features rather unattractive. Especially when before it was discontinued in Australia (according to the PCCaseGear listing anyway), the Asrock B650 Livemixer is an ATX board with FOURTEEN (14) USB ports for $299 (if you can put up with the godawful orange coloring anyway)
@[Deactivated]: I'm in no rush, I will HODL for now.
It does look good though!
Edit: Can you please give me 2 other recommendations that I can monitor and look out for please?
@lordra: I'm HODLing as well, the mobo will last multiple CPU upgrades so no point in settling. Just a couple of months ago the Asrock HDV/M.2 (another competent entry level board) was as low as $140.
As for board recs, the Gigabyte Aorus Elite has 12 USB ports, if I were to pay a premium on a board I'd go for that. There's actually a B650M Aorus Elite on Amazon Warehouse right now for $211, if you want to take a chance at a good deal (and return if its a dud) that's not bad. Else B650 boards are pretty competent, just picking the cheapest one that tick all of your feature boxes works well enough.
@lordra: If one had to get something right now, I suppose the B650M Lightning falls into the not-awful list as well. Equivalent VRM and specs to the lower-end decent Gigabyte (DS3H/Gaming X), tick the usual port/header check, exposed M.2 slot for easy swap without having to unscrew a bunch of stuffs to drop in an AX200. It just look bad compared to the Pro RS which costed less but is just a bit better in every categories.
@lordra: Hey mate, I ended up pulling the trigger on this board and the 7800X3D with the Afterpay eBay code. It was between it and the Gigabyte Aorus Elite, and considering that I'm getting by with my B550 Tomahawk and its 5 Type-A USB ports, I figured I didn't need the 12 of the Aorus Elite and pocketed the $50 difference.
If you're still looking for a rough build idea, I'd recommend something like this:
| Type | Item | Price |
|---|---|---|
| CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor | $530.00 |
| CPU Cooler | Thermalright Phantom Spirit 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler | $57.90 |
| Motherboard | Gigabyte B650 EAGLE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard | $299.00 @ PCCaseGear |
| Memory | TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory | $189.00 @ PCCaseGear |
| Case | Montech AIR 903 MAX ATX Mid Tower Case | $129.00 @ PCCaseGear |
| Power Supply | MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $159.00 @ PCCaseGear |
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts | ||
| Total | $1363.90 | |
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-03-15 08:40 AEDT+1100 |
Sub in GPU and storage as needed. The Montech 903 is an crazy good value case, and good enough that its worth having to limit yourself to what PCCaseGear carries so you can get everything shipped from one place. Though at least they carry the Gigabyte Eagle board for your ATX aesthetic preference. Cooler is from Amazon, CPU from the Afterpay eBay deal.
@Krepokrip, sorry mate, how much are the others costing you?
And what case are you putting them all into? What CPU cooler are you going to use?
FWIW im building a 7800X3D / 7900XTX based machine in the next few weeks. I dont want to go nvidia and I think they are decently matched.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of Nvidia either; however, I'm just afraid I will regret having an AMD RX card since it doesn't properly support ray tracing acceleration. Hence, I will always be thinking about it and contemplating whether I should have gotten an Nvidia card instead. I'm an "ultra settings" guy, and if something is missing or not set to it, it bugs me.
@Krepokrip: Yeah, I typically turn everything on - but honestly I dont play many AAA games anyway (stuff like 7DTD or Battlebit lol) so its not a dealbreaker. I have a 3070 on my main PC at the moment, and theres only a few titles that raytracing really looks better on
@Krepokrip: More money than sense.
And I dont play many AAA games but would like to have decent performance - I played the entire game of Baldurs Gate 3 and like 2 hours of Hogwarts legacy this year, though majority of my playtime is non AAA as most AAA games are rubbish.
Though I haven't finished the build, ive already spent $500 on a case, psu and lcd lol.
This or the 5700G for $92 more?
Good upgrade for my 2600?
Apparently yes for 3200g or lower. Not sure if yours is non G how much difference that makes.
Yeah. In cinebench the 5600g is about 40% faster single and multicore.
In games it'll depend on your gpu, the game and the resolution but here's it going with a 3070 at presumably 1080p
I'm running a 2600 with the 3060
With a 3060 it probably would only improve gaming in specific games where zen+'s architecture quirks like it's 3x3 CCD design wreck performance, but the gain in non gaming tasks would be quite good, if you find that useful.
If you prefer to upgrade one part at a time so the price tag looks smaller this deal could be worth it because you can just drop a gpu in later and it wont be bottlenecked as much as it would be with the 2600, but otherwise it'd probably be better to wait and buy a mostly whole knew PC when your current one isn't doing what you want it to do anymore.
@Lief: The 3060 is the top/best part of my current PC, currently I have no plan on upgrading it. I mainly Warzone and feel like the 2600 is bottle necking the 3060.
I think 5xxx is the best serie I can upgrade to on the AM4 mobo?
My plan was to upgrade this PC one last time for under $200 before getting a new one.
@chhola: 5600 is better than the 5600G for games. To check if the GPU is bottlenecked just run a game and check the GPU utilization, if it never hovers around >90% then it's pretty safe to say it's being held back. RAM can also be a bottleneck too especially with faster CPUs.
Will I be able to run crysis on highest settings finally?
No. Sell kidney first ;)
Nice, $141.23 on the credit card
jesus why they still trying to sell us last gen tech, this is soon to be last last gen
they should just stick with their old strategy of destroying everything they can’t sell to hold prices up
I don't see an issue when the 8500G costs almost twice as much and barely any faster.
let’s all be good automaton droids and buy whatever the price is, the market is always right after all
So, all those second hand Intel 6th gen to 8th gen mini PCs should all be thrown away. Heck, Intel shouldn't sell 12th and 13th gen CPUs anymore based on your idea.
Wifi 7 is out so all Wifi 6E and Wifi 6 devices should not be sold anymore and should be destroyed. Why is Apple selling iPhone 15 Pro Max? That's only Wifi 6E. All phone makers are so dodgy and not offering Thunderbolt 4 or USB 4 with 8K/60Hz display output support. USB 3 with only 4K/30Hz from Android is so last gen.
@netsurfer: throw all those atom mini pcs away they’re landfill anyway
it’s not based on my idea retailers like Amazon they are known to destroy stuff to prop prices up
they’ve jacked prices so high now last gen tech is about what current gen should be
that’s ok keep jacking the higher the more entertaining, i eagerly await last last last last gen tech at retailers!!!!1
@abctoz: I thought based on the price, it feels more like Amazon Germany is trying to dump these (which is a good idea). Obviously, there is no real "free" postage, so that price does include some postage.
However, while 5600G isn't impressive in today's standard, its power usage is on the low side, so for non-gaming or retro gaming and general purpose usage, it is still good. First gen AM5 took a while to be stable enough and the DDR5 RAM compatibility is still far from perfect.
Just because 8600G is released, it doesn't make 5600G completely useless immediately. Also, due to the annoying DDR5 memory training, if no memory context restore or the PC had to retrain, 5600G (AM4 based) can easily boot faster than an AM5 CPU.
@netsurfer: remember what price 2400g was, I’m sure 5600g has its merits but it wasn’t even that impressive lagging behind the 5500 iirc. When you factor in the cost of the system you may as well just put in a gpu, Zuckerberg just announced he will buy all the GPUs in the world may as well front run him. As for me i don’t even follow prices now everything looks atrocious, just going to hodl in my cave until inflationpocalypse ends, like i seriously haven’t bought anything off here for a year or 2, everything just looks like landfill, hey look another atom minipc that will go straight to the bin!
@abctoz: What? 5600G generally is known to be better than 5500. In fact, buying 5500 generally is a bad idea because you essentially let go of PCIe gen 4 support even without having the iGPU inside. 5600G's max clock speed is higher. 5500 is a bigger ripoff from AMD.
Which atom mini pc?
So, cheap Samsung 990 Pro, SN850X, AM5 motherboards, RAM etc… posted on OZB are not worth it according to you. Best GPU deals are still ones posted on OZB last year.
Zuckerberg will buy high end AI GPUs, not consumer grade GPUs. If Zuckerberg buys consumer grade GPUs, people will think he lost the plot. His company needs GPUs with 80GB VRAM or more. So, for him, he is going to toss your GPU into the bin. Inflationpocalypse… if you bought nVidia shares at the beginning of this year, that % increase beats the inflation. Had you bought some one year ago, you would have more than doubled the amount you put in.
@netsurfer: no man there going to b a vram shortage big zuck going all in get with the game plan, there is no plan b
luckily I have some bitcorn left over a token amount, that will protect me i am certain, just gotta get out before mr gensler decides to rug all the boomers
you look to be right on 5500 being slower, I guess I was just pissed the 5600g was slower than 5600, why are we even talking about last gen tech, last last gen now, we should all be on 8 cores now, what is this travesty
I bought 2 Chinese ssds they were just better value, 1tb for $50 and a 4tb nvme for $240, good enough will last me 10 years.
I can’t believe we not all on cheap itx boards now, if I build now I’m getting a cheap b550 itx off aliexpress
@abctoz: Some of the intel nucs are handy for different use cases. I have a beelink here for file sharing etc
@Franc-T: donno man they just seem so expensive for the performance, an ex company ssf pc is way faster for like half the price
A great price for a good chip. A $500 chip might be 20% faster per core, but only some people would benefit. At the moment I think I need more Ram for Photoshop operations on huge images. And JpegXl lossless encoding. WebP is 30% smaller than Png at lossless, and JpegXl about 5% smaller than WebP. I don't know if anything will dethrone Jpegs though for lossly raster encoding, even though there are multiple codecs than can produce smaller files at the same quality.
Is this better than the 5600 or 5600x?
No, its worse than both. The G chips are laptop chips repackaged for desktop, in exchange for having an integrated GPU they lose a lot of performance. The 5600G performs about similar to the last gen 3600, so you lose a full generation's worth of gain
It is inferior to both 5600 and 5600X, but its CPU performance is still closer to 5600 than 3600. AMD did cut the cache size on 5600G.
5600G < 5600 < 5600X
The CPU performance difference isn't as big, BUT 5600G does have a smaller cache and some people don't like that. 5600G still performs closer to 5600 than 3600.
One key limitation with the G CPUs is the PCIe gen support is 1 gen behind the non G and X version. So:
5600G: up to PCIe gen 3 support
5600: up to PCIe gen 4 support
8600G: up to PCIe gen 4 support
7600: up to PCIe gen 5 support
Therefore, if you do get a GPU and/or buying a NVMe SSD for it, do bear that in mind.
Have one in my media pc. Does all the 4k media stuff flawlessly. Plex runs fine too. (haven't played any games though)
Shouldn't the 8600g be the same price as the 5600g which is $210?
$380 everywhere for 8600G atm (maybe you are thinking USD?)
Isn't the 8600g a replacement for 5600g so should be the same price?
8600G is a similarly themed chip to the 5600G, but it is on the AM5 socket, which is the newest one. 5600G is on the AM4 socket which is close to end of life. They use different non-compatible motherboards and RAM. AM5 parts are currently slightly/significantly overpriced due to it being new.
Rough, I just bought this a few months ago for $209