[Resolved] Can't Get a Job

LDegeneracy on 14/01/2024 - 19:58
Last edited 16/01/2024 - 11:00 by 3 other users

I applied for like 30+ jobs. I even applied to KFC. I got an interview and got promptly rejected (lmao). They sent the email less than an hour after the interview. Also got rejected from Coles interview.

I've got nothing to put on my resume. Literally nothing (don't know what an 18 year old would have though). I'm an awful student (65 Atar), so I can't do tutoring. Never had work experience before. I don't have friends or family who can refer me. I'm not athletic at all and have a weak build. My character is pretty bad TBH. My "community" also isn't very helpful, as I went over the the mall and asked them for a job. There is literally nothing going for me.

Some people have told me volunteering. But quite frankly, I don't care about helping people, nor do I feel any satisfaction for it. I just want money.

Part time jobs would rather hire 14 year olds who they can underpay or older people who are more flexible with their times. And the shitty government doesn't give assistance for a job until I'm 21 and on the hook for Centrelink.

I don't understand the song and dance around applying for a minimum wage. YES I'M APPLYING FOR A MINIMUM WAGE, WAGE JOB. NO, I DON'T WANT TO STAY FOREVER. NO, THE JOB DOENS'T GIVE ME PRIDE.

I'm begging you. If you have a job at 7/11 or a some type of cornerstone clerk, please give me advice.

EDIT: I'll be entering uni in 2024. I want a part time job not a career

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  • askbargain on 14/01/2024 - 19:59
    +209

    Hmm, you come across as someone who is professional, I’m not too sure why it’s not working out.

    • Hangryuman on 15/01/2024 - 11:45
      +10

      thanks for the snort of laughter !

    • suzley on 15/01/2024 - 15:45
      +1

      Professional troll.

    • siresteelhell on 15/01/2024 - 19:42
      +4

      Hes clearly an Askhole...asks questions then ignores the answer because it doesnt suit
      (urban dictionary for the win)

    • Saars on 15/01/2024 - 20:34
      +11

      I know people like this guy

      • Think they are owed everything, that they don't need to put effort in and things will just get handed to them
      • Tries to blame everyone else for their lack of success
      • Makes excuses for why they can't put more effort in

      Anyone can tell how unprofessional they are, I get that attitudes are different on the internet, but there is only so much different they can be

      • Phoenixzeus on 15/01/2024 - 22:57
        +1

        /r/Australia in a nutshell

  • BillyStm on 14/01/2024 - 20:09
    +18

    From everything you've said it sounds like those businesses that opted to pass on the opportunity to employ you missed out big time…

    Put yourself in the business owner/managers shoes, would you hire you? Maybe you need to make yourself more flexible with availability times to get a foot in the door as ultimately businesses do prefer to invest (and yes there is a cost to employ/train new persons especially those with no skills) in persons that will actually be available to work the shifts that need filling at the business.

      • cookie2 on 14/01/2024 - 20:55
        +24

        Have you considered going through an unemployment type job agency? Normally Centrelink hook you up with them. Otherwise your resume is getting you through the door but I'm going to assume your attitude may be failing you.
        Just try harder in the interview and pretend a little about giving af about the role.
        Also volunteering is a step towards what you want so you shouldn't cross it off if you're not having any success. But honestly if you think your character is pretty bad, don't know what you expect others to tell you. Except for… work on your character. If you have the self awareness to know it's bad then you have no excuse.

          • kerfuffle on 14/01/2024 - 21:33
            +96

            @Degeneracy: Sounds like it could be an attitude problem; perhaps that’s why you’re not getting any jobs.

              • kerfuffle on 14/01/2024 - 21:39
                +77

                @Degeneracy: You can control your attitude. It’s called being an adult. Learn some humility, change your attitude. Why would I want to hire someone like you for a minimum wage job, someone who looks like they won’t give a shit, when there’s someone else who’s similar to you, but is enthusiastic, shows humility and has a good attitude? Not going to pay someone who gives no fks; I want to hire someone who will work hard. And that doesn’t sound like you. I mean, every reasonable suggestion here, you’ve shot them down, saying it’s beneath you.

                  • kerfuffle on 14/01/2024 - 22:03
                    +38

                    @Degeneracy: Well clearly they do, as that’s why they have jobs, and you don’t; just a whinge post.

                  • Ughhh on 15/01/2024 - 06:37
                    +32

                    @Degeneracy: You're putting so little value in the minimum wage job and ignoring the fact that it's a stepping stone to a better job/career.

                    If you don't care about the job, nor want to try, there's no reason why anyone should waste time on you.
                    The interviewers probably saw through your BS.

                  • cookie2 on 15/01/2024 - 19:52
                    +6

                    @Degeneracy: Because they have reasons that make it worth it. They want a good reference so they don't spend their life earning minimum wage / they value the money and what it provides them with / they see it as a means to an end / they enjoy it for more than the $ / they like their peers and want to work as a team / they have fun / they get to oay their bills / they meet new ppl or do new things.
                    Honestly I'd suggest counselling over getting a job. You really need to look at your behaviours, you're 18 not 10.

                    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 20:24
                      -3

                      @cookie2: "They want a good reference so they don't spend their life earning minimum wage"-so do I
                      "they value the money and what it provides them with "- yeah I just want video games and bus. Nothing else. I value money too
                      "they enjoy it for more than the $" - Who tf enjoys working at coles/mcdondalds? Who would do that in their spare time?
                      "they like their peers and want to work as a team"-SOme people on the planet just don't okay? Do we not deserve money?
                      "they have fun"-irrelavant
                      "they get to oay their bills"-also irrelevant and also I have bills to pay. Food and bus mainly, as well as new computer parts
                      "they meet new ppl or do new things"- Haha as if anyone wants to work at mcdoanlds to "meet new people" and "do new things"

                      • IM-Cheap on 16/01/2024 - 04:26
                        +4

                        @Degeneracy: I genuinely enjoyed working fast food. Sure it wasn't a career and I got a proper job after uni but there were alot of social skills I picked up in minimum wage and I did meet alot of interesting people I would not normally have a conversation with if not for the incentive of money. Even of you find a career where you don't have to work in a team, you won't get very far if you can't deal with customers/stakeholders and don't care about the work. Why are you going to uni at all if you're going to carry that attitude into interviews for proper jobs?

            • Hangryuman on 15/01/2024 - 11:47
              +14

              @kerfuffle: how could it be attitude when the OP shows such a winning personality … ?

            • DoctorCalculon on 16/01/2024 - 08:06
              +1

              @kerfuffle:

              irl what happened was that I did my half of the work, didn't communicate with him at all, and blamed everything that went wrong on my friend, when he was too dumb to complete it.

              What an amazing friend you are in real life!

              My dad says that they see through my lies.

              There you have it. That is probably one answer to your question about why you cannot even secure a minimum wage job.

          • jorf on 15/01/2024 - 09:21
            +21

            @Degeneracy:

            But I'm getting a MINIMUM WAGE JOB

            People still don't want to hire dikheads.

            Stop trying to be hard and sort your shit out.

          • OzBarAnon on 15/01/2024 - 14:05
            +6

            @Degeneracy: So, you don't take well to authority (telling your teacher to get bent) and you don't work well with others (blaming your friend for everything), you lie, and you don't care about doing a good job. You sound like a stellar hire. You won't even take up volunteering because you want money immediately, even though it can be an avenue to a paying job. I had problems finding a job at that age too, but even I actually gave a crap about doing work properly and sucked it up enough to volunteer for several months.

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 14:07
              -7

              @OzBarAnon: It took several months to get a minimum wage job? Nah fam. Not worth it.

              There really are too much people in this economy ehh?

          • ezekiel181 on 15/01/2024 - 18:48
            +7

            @Degeneracy: We're hiring, let me know you've applied so I can be careful.

      • this is us on 14/01/2024 - 21:43
        +17

        Great fictional reference (Breaking Bad) but that shouldn't be your goal.

        Someone with bipolar can get any job. You can't.

        I obviously don't know how you got to where you are now, but you are still young and able to create a better future. You do have to change for that to happen.

        The way how you talk about things and people is very limited and a bit shitty to be honest. I doubt a 7-11 manager or franchise owner would give you a job if you don't change your attitude.

        Even for the minimum wage job, you increase your chances if you are minimally friendly and looks minimally motivated.

  • randomusername2017 on 14/01/2024 - 20:15

    With a name like that… Surely someone will give you a hand

    • Degeneracy on 14/01/2024 - 20:19
      +2

      Nah man. girls in high school hated me lol

      • cookie2 on 14/01/2024 - 21:01
        +49

        I can't imagine why

  • Jimothy Wongingtons on 14/01/2024 - 20:22
    +13

    How are your feet, op?

  • SmiTTy on 14/01/2024 - 20:37
    +16

    Try to secure a volunteer opportunity on the side. Don't think of it as helping other people - it's helping yourself get some experience under your belt. It doesn't pay, but might give you a foot in the door.

    I've interviewed graduates before… Whilst I dont expect them to have much (or any) experience, I can tell u the ones that are active and have volunteer experience more times than not conduct themselves a lot better and speak a lot better….

    Secondly, is there something u can study to get a foot in the job? Some basic computer course or traffic controller course or whatever…

    Good luck. I know it's a tough market…but sometimes u just gotta keep applying and eventually someone will give u a chance (ask at cafes, drink/bubble tea shops, contact those marketing agents who hire people to distribute shopping catalogues)

      • Benno007 on 15/01/2024 - 09:14
        +6

        Yeah look some min wage employees do have terrible attitudes but they must have been well adjusted enough to bluff through an interview or had some help. Maybe find some friends to practice interviewing with? Sometimes giving less of a response might help if you struggle with being truthful or having enough experience to respond with.

        Might also be the time of year, most companies would have just hired more people for Christmas and are letting them go now. What about a warehouse job somewhere?

        As a software engineer of 20 years, you’ll also struggle to get a IT job or progress in any meaningful way with an attitude like your comments here…. You’ll mature over time as you learn more about the real world outside school, uni might help that though.

        Just a FYI, depending on specialisation, most companies these days literally fire arrogant employees, even if they’re on 200k+ and have been there years… and as someone who has interviewed 50+ people in the last 2 years, usually my decision is a 50/50 combination of their attitude and technical knowledge (with interview anxiety taken into account)

      • Trekky on 15/01/2024 - 09:23
        +7

        Man up! Life is uncomfortable. We all do stuff we don't want to do.

      • Papa Huggies on 15/01/2024 - 09:28
        +13

        I'll be honest. 65 ATAR is not enough to graduate Computer Science, especially with your existing character. I think both the job and study issues can be solved if you humble yourself and work on yourself first, before worrying about why anyone would employ you.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 12:51
          -5

          Got a Band 5 external in Advanced Math and E3 external Extension Math. I got band 2s and Band 3s is dumb subjects like English and Buisness(which I chose for (profanity) all)

          Qualified for WSU

      • brifog on 15/01/2024 - 15:02
        +17

        As a Software Engineer, don't do Computer Science, you'll never pass the interviews with your trash attitude.

        • Papa Huggies on 15/01/2024 - 15:20
          +11

          Oh don't worry I'm sure once he gets to Linear Algebra in 1st year math his 65 ATAR and poor work ethic will stop him way before he sits in front of any potential employer.

          • wisb0 on 15/01/2024 - 18:58

            @Papa Huggies: Linear Algebra and 1st yr math isn't even taught there

      • p1 ama on 15/01/2024 - 16:55
        +11

        Sorry dude, but you sound completely stuck-up with no self-awareness of why you're in the situation that you are.

        The fact that you're literally looking down on the jobs you're applying for says enough. Why would anyone want to hire someone who looks down on their responsibilities and their co-workers?

        You said you applied for KFC - you're literally responsible for the health and safety of people around you. I worked in fast food in my late teens, and I'm glad they're rejecting irresponsible morons. I've seen irresponsible co-workers leave oil spills (leading to a hazardous working environment for their colleagues), being rude to customers (leading to other colleagues having to step in to resolve the situation), and plenty of other situations where they simply could not (or chose not to) take responsibility for their actions.

        You sound exactly like this sort of person.

        Here's the deal - every job (volunteering or paid) involves dealing with and helping people - you are part of a team that is delivering outcomes. You might be helping customers, you might be helping your teammates, whatever it is you're doing, you're helping someone. If you weren't you would not be paid.

        To be honest, I'm not surprised you have literally nothing in your CV. Perhaps if you volunteered, played sports or did something productive in your youth, you'd have developed a better attitude and learned how to work with other people.

        As someone who's been responsible for hiring people, what I look for is a positive attitude and a willingness to learn. If someone is responsible, cares about others, and is willing to learn, they'll always be great to work with. I would never hire someone who can't get along with other people.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 17:03
          -5

          My parents made me play soccer. I was the worst in my team. I never liked my team mates. I never got along with them. Whenever they played with each other after soccer practice, they always excluded me. I also joined a Youth group. Same story. I had my phone then so I would just sit in the corner and play emulated games on it.

          I gave it all a try. None of that garbage is for me. Other people ruin anything fun. It's only fun when you are anonymous behind a screen. I did try.

          Doesn't matter anyway. I aint' getting a job anytime soon

          • p1 ama on 15/01/2024 - 17:09
            +3

            @Degeneracy: Well that's just life, other people are better than you (in whatever dimensions employers are looking for), so that's why they have a job and you don't.

            There are two options - change and get a job, or don't change and stay jobless. If you make the active choice of the latter, then that's your own choice.

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 17:10
              +1

              @p1 ama: not even qualify for minimum wage. That's more embarassing than a 65 atar

      • SirCH on 16/01/2024 - 10:17
        +2

        Yeah look, if how you're coming across on here is representative of how you come across in a job interview, I wouldn't hire you either.

        A rejection within 1 hour of an interview is a pretty telling sign.

        I've been responsible for hiring an entry level role, we had 500+ applicants, and had to gradually narrow those down by the best resumes, then by phone interviews, then Teams, then face-to-face, to pick our favourite 1 applicant. I don't foresee me passing you on any stage of my process, never mind a face-to-face.

        "I don't care about helping people" isn't an attitude any business wants. Even if you aren't customer facing, you would still need to support your team to support the customers.

        You need to seek professional help, and have an honest and open conversation and be receptive to feedback of the person who is helping you.

    • kraigg on 15/01/2024 - 08:06
      +7

      I agree about the volunteering. Some people volunteer because they want to help people and "make a difference", other people just do it to have a reference and some work experience to put on their resumé. If you aren't the former, be the latter.

      It doesn't have to be ever day, 1-2 days a week is fine. It'll help when you're seriously looking for jobs, any experience is better than having a blank resumé.

  • mskeggs on 14/01/2024 - 21:00
    +56

    Your comments suggest that the work you are failing to get is below you. And that you see others who you consider below you getting jobs.

    If this comes across in an interview, it will make you unemployable. Nobody wants to hire an arrogant arsehole who thinks their colleagues are crap.

    • Degeneracy on 14/01/2024 - 21:17
      -1

      I tried my best to lie about my character in the interview. I don't know what else I can do.

      • dylanando on 14/01/2024 - 21:24
        +22

        perhaps a reality check?
        Coles store manager starts on $140k

        Honestly sounds like you don't want a job and you're being forced by your parents to 'get' one, so you're doing everything in your power to sabotage it.

          • dylanando on 14/01/2024 - 21:35
            +2

            @Degeneracy: maybe you can ask your bus friends where they get their money from.

          • 2esc on 15/01/2024 - 10:01
            +1

            @Degeneracy: Make you lunch etc at home save a heap of money and you can't reley on your parents forever.

            I never asked for money from my parents at your age because i could see money was tight.

            Your parents gave you life. What do you do to help them? Maybe she complains because you dont help out around home.

          • Hangryuman on 15/01/2024 - 11:49
            +2

            @Degeneracy: sounds like you tried nothing, and nothing worked !

        • DemocracyManifest on 14/01/2024 - 22:32
          +7

          Where did you get your info that a Coles store manager starts on $140k, that’s impossible and absolutely ridiculous. My sources is that it is nowhere near that

          • mskeggs on 14/01/2024 - 22:39
            -1

            @DemocracyManifest: I saw an ad just the other day for ALDI store managers paying $110k. Do you think Coles would pay much less?

            • CauseNEffect on 14/01/2024 - 23:51
              +7

              @mskeggs: Yes, they do pay less.

            • Ade99 on 15/01/2024 - 07:56
              +14

              @mskeggs: Aldi pay at the very top end and have a policy of erring on staff light. Coles / WoW would be a lot less…because they can.

          • dylanando on 15/01/2024 - 06:56
            +1

            @DemocracyManifest: my partner is one

      • Tambani on 15/01/2024 - 13:11
        +3

        So you've tried nothing to improve your character and you're all out of ideas?

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 13:13
          -3

          Why should I? I enjoy speaking my mind. It's one of the few pleasures of being me

          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 13:15
            +12

            @Degeneracy: Because it's clearly not helping you in any way whatsoever. You just look like an incel.

              • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 13:32
                +6

                @Degeneracy: You’re 18. You have fk all life experience; how do you know your character isn’t the problem? Because clearly it is; otherwise you would have a minimum wage job.

                • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 13:34
                  -8

                  @kerfuffle: Complete losers with mental retardation and a drug addiction can get a job but I can't. Besides I like being my way. I have no desire for improving my charecter. I just want a minimum wage job, not an arc about discovering myself.

                  • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 13:35
                    +21

                    @Degeneracy: And yet those losers have a job and you don’t, so what does that make you? A whiny little incel baby. No one is going to give you a job at the rate you’re going.

                  • Phoenixzeus on 15/01/2024 - 23:07
                    +2

                    @Degeneracy:

                    Complete losers with mental retardation and a drug addiction can get a job but I can't.

                    Yeah, and you're below them

                    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 23:11

                      @Phoenixzeus: Yeah ur probs right. But if your making fun of someone lower than a drug addict, what does that make you?

  • Mechz on 14/01/2024 - 21:35
    +3

    Maybe go do some free Tafe courses.

    • Degeneracy on 14/01/2024 - 21:36

      But I'm going to uni. Want part time

  • TEER3X on 14/01/2024 - 21:40
    +9

    Plenty of factory jobs pay $30+/hr
    That's a start

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 00:55
      -1

      Got rejected from one

      • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 08:16
        +24

        From one…… there is more than one factory…… so apply from others.

        Just because you got rejected from one, doesn't mean the next one will.

        • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 08:22
          +16

          Just because you got rejected from one, doesn't mean the next one will.

          They will if the OP doesn't change their attitude

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 12:52

          I applied to 5

          • SpainKing on 15/01/2024 - 16:53
            +1

            @Degeneracy: There are also more than 5 factories

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 16:56

              @SpainKing: There are also 100 applicants to each job. It takes far too much time, especially when they can find someone with a forklift licence, or car licence to do it

              • SpainKing on 15/01/2024 - 20:29
                +3

                @Degeneracy: Then perhaps focus on getting the things those applicants have that you don't. With how much time you've spent on this thread today you clearly have the time but lack the motivation

                • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 20:30

                  @SpainKing: I do lack the ambitions. I just want to go in and work and get money. Not get 10 certifications for a (profanity) part time job

                  • SpainKing on 15/01/2024 - 20:42
                    +4

                    @Degeneracy: At least you're self-aware enough to identify and admit that. The next step is to take action to try and make up for what you lack

                    You don't need 10 certs, I have two and neither relate to the job I have. At the same time, the world isn't fair, you have to take steps to balance things in your favour. Getting qualifications shows you have the ambition and skill to do the work

                    The best way to get a job is nepotism, try working on being a better person to those around you and they'll be willing to put in a good word for you (this also hinges on being a person people think they can rely on to not make them look bad). Right now, I wouldn't feel comfortable giving you a recommendation

                    One thing I've learned is that you can't help people that don't want to help themselves. People won't change unless they want to change. Right now, you don't want to change. But you can change that

  • sumyungguy on 14/01/2024 - 21:45
    +7

    Deliver with Uber Eats - Be Your Own Boss

      • leiiv on 15/01/2024 - 08:58
        +10

        It's not only attitude, you have so many excuses. Can your parents at least help you to get a licence?

        • lunartemis on 15/01/2024 - 09:37
          +4

          If his attitude towards getting his licence is anything similar to getting a job, he won't pass his driving test…

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 13:30
          +1

          I don't have the desire to leave my house. Why would I want to drive?

          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 13:33
            +4

            @Degeneracy: You do know you need to leave the house to get a job, right?

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 13:35

              @kerfuffle: I can apply online. the local westfield is within walking distance and I still get (profanity) all jobs.

              • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 13:37
                +6

                @Degeneracy: Because you have an attitude problem, that’s why

                • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 13:38
                  -1

                  @kerfuffle: I'm not changing my attutiude or my charecter. I just want a minimum wage job. That's all I want. I'm not asking for a high paying job. I just want to get paid minimum wage so I can buy games, and not have my $600 go to $0

                  • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 13:39
                    +5

                    @Degeneracy: And no one is going to give you a minimum wage job with the attitude and character you have.

                    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 13:41
                      -6

                      @kerfuffle: That's the problem. too many people in this god damn country. Every applicant they have is clearly a god like figure. I'm so (profanity)

                      • Yukari Yakumo on 15/01/2024 - 16:50
                        +9

                        @Degeneracy: Even if the population of Australia was 30, employers still probably wouldn't give you a job.

                        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 16:52
                          -2

                          @Yukari Yakumo: No they would. Because there is no one else.

                          I don't conduct my self irl as I do on internet forums.

                          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 16:53
                            +4

                            @Degeneracy: Perhaps time to start conducting yourself online as you do in real life then; perhaps you would receive more favourable comments.

                            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 16:55

                              @kerfuffle: Why though? I do a lot of censoring in my head. I"m actually being honest with you

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