[Resolved] Can't Get a Job

LDegeneracy on 14/01/2024 - 19:58
Last edited 16/01/2024 - 11:00 by 3 other users

I applied for like 30+ jobs. I even applied to KFC. I got an interview and got promptly rejected (lmao). They sent the email less than an hour after the interview. Also got rejected from Coles interview.

I've got nothing to put on my resume. Literally nothing (don't know what an 18 year old would have though). I'm an awful student (65 Atar), so I can't do tutoring. Never had work experience before. I don't have friends or family who can refer me. I'm not athletic at all and have a weak build. My character is pretty bad TBH. My "community" also isn't very helpful, as I went over the the mall and asked them for a job. There is literally nothing going for me.

Some people have told me volunteering. But quite frankly, I don't care about helping people, nor do I feel any satisfaction for it. I just want money.

Part time jobs would rather hire 14 year olds who they can underpay or older people who are more flexible with their times. And the shitty government doesn't give assistance for a job until I'm 21 and on the hook for Centrelink.

I don't understand the song and dance around applying for a minimum wage. YES I'M APPLYING FOR A MINIMUM WAGE, WAGE JOB. NO, I DON'T WANT TO STAY FOREVER. NO, THE JOB DOENS'T GIVE ME PRIDE.

I'm begging you. If you have a job at 7/11 or a some type of cornerstone clerk, please give me advice.

EDIT: I'll be entering uni in 2024. I want a part time job not a career

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      • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 16:31

        How much times have you volunteered? Met very few people who actually volunteer

        • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 16:34
          +2

          I've done it way too much to count. But I have listed it on my resume.

        • Papa Huggies on 15/01/2024 - 16:35
          +3

          Volunteered at a charity once I finished HS since I had 4mo free until uni started. Eventually got promoted into a paid role at the charity then worked at a Bakers Delight throughout my studies until I got a student engineer role at a firm.

          Been volunteering at church non-stop since I was your age.

          You really chose the wrong person to ask that to. I have a six figure 9-5, studying my Masters rn and literally never stopped volunteering.

          • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 16:38

            @Papa Huggies: Did you feel satisfaction when doing the work? Did you feel a sense of completion? Did you feel closer to god? Did it make you feel good about yourself? Did you feel closer to other people?

            I don't feel those emotions. If you didn't, would you have volunteered in the first place?

            • Papa Huggies on 15/01/2024 - 16:43
              +4

              @Degeneracy: I literally didn't care about the charity in the slightest when I started at 17 years old. I just knew I had no real skills and a lot of time to kill.

              Did I feel satisfaction/ completion? Initially, yes. About 2mo in, no. Did I feel closer to other people? Not really.

              It developed a lot of my soft skills though.

              The church volunteering is different and likely not applicable to you if you aren't personally spiritual. Some days I like it some days it burns me out, but it gives actual satisfaction/ completion, whereas my 9-5 is my job because I'm good at maths and scripting and thats it.

        • The Wololo Wombat on 15/01/2024 - 17:19

          Are you asking me? I mean… since you asked…

          When I was your age, every Friday I ran a fitness and breakfast program at the local high school to give disadvantaged kids breakfast every Friday morning…

          Once a month I'd help out at a local homeless shelter, giving out food and clothes to homeless people and cooking meals for them.

          I was also part of the 'Red Frogs' hotel chaplaincy group and worked each day during school from 11am-5am (yes, no mistake) cooking pancakes and building connections with young people so that they felt safe to ask us to walk them (girls) home late at night, ask us to respond to emergency first aid events (drug OD) and supporting people who were victims of various kinds of assault.

          This is not an exhaustive list… and honestly, these late teen/early 20s were some of the best of my life. I really believe you'd benefit from being involved in a church group.

          • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 17:20

            @The Wololo Wombat: Joined a youth group once. I didn't like anyone there.

            I don't get along with people. When I talk to people honestly, I sound like this. Otherwise I lie and pretend to be a nicer person

            • The Wololo Wombat on 15/01/2024 - 17:26
              +7

              @Degeneracy: Yea, I understand - you want to be genuine and that's a good thing…so much 'fake' in society today. There's a weird dynamic where you're actually being mature in your authenticity/self-awareness… but immature in the way you are stubbornly despondent about this 'truth'.

              To be honest…I know I'm also just as selfish as you… but Jesus changed my life and I don't identify with that selfish nature (though it's still there!). I believe you can experience the same thing I did and that will unlock so much (God-created) good and purpose in your life.. which is why I suggested exploring church.

    • geekcohen on 15/01/2024 - 16:27
      +1

      But the OP hates people.

  • whitepuma on 15/01/2024 - 16:28

    honestly, best advice is keep trying, you will get there.

    For some of the places that reject you, i recommend asking for feedback as to why. When doing this remember to be professional and respectful, you are looking for feedback for personal growth, not a reason to try and catch them out. Take that feedback onboard and if you can fix something about your application then do so for future opportunities.

    In the meantime, to help you get some money whilst looking for an employer, here are some temporary alternatives to get some extra cash:
    - Air tasker, take on some miscellaneous jobs here
    - Delivery apps, if you can get hold of a push bike or car you can work for things like uber eats, menulog etc and deliver food on your time.
    - ridesharing, if you have access to a nicer car you could do this

    • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 16:29
      +1

      ridesharing, if you have access to a nicer car you could do this

      He needs a licence first …

      • whitepuma on 15/01/2024 - 16:30

        Yes, i made an assumption the OP has a license, if there is no license, there are still the other 2 options i presented (grant it with the delivery apps you will need to do via push bike)

        • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 16:31

          Indeed, but the OP considers those options beneath him.

          • whitepuma on 15/01/2024 - 16:32

            @kerfuffle: …where did OP say that? i didn't get that vibe from the post

            • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 16:36
              +1

              @whitepuma: Right here

              You should read all the comments in here; it's a doozy

              • whitepuma on 15/01/2024 - 16:42
                +2

                @kerfuffle: So let me get this straight.

                OP has no qualifications, no license, no experience, doesn't want to go outside, doesn't want to work with people, also claims to be an awful student and thinks delivery apps & airtasker are beneath them?

                Goodluck OP

                • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 16:48
                  +1

                  @whitepuma: Yep, that's it. But also wants a job handed to them on a silver platter.

  • Grunntt on 15/01/2024 - 16:39
    +2

    Really? 5 pages of people who can't remember such simple advice - "Don't feed the troll".
    This place really is turning into Whirlpool.

  • AustriaBargain on 15/01/2024 - 17:14

    Try McDonald's. It's sweaty, greasy work. But it's kinda fun working with young people. I'd really try like Kmart and BigW and such, working indoors in air-conditioning must be nice, and you never see the workers on the floor break a sweat.

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 17:15

      I applied 20+ times to target/kmart/bigw didn't get an interview.

      Got rejected from KFC, McDonalds ain't gonna be better

      • AustriaBargain on 15/01/2024 - 17:16

        Keep trying. And if you know anyone that works at a place like that ask them to hook you up. I got my first job at a McDonald's because my boyfriend worked there and put in a word for me with the manager.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 17:18

          I don't have anyone I know. My family don't work part time. My friends wouldn't want me working with them. They aren't even my friends anymore, that ended with the HSC.

          I made around 50 applications. I'm not getting a job

          • AustriaBargain on 15/01/2024 - 17:31
            +1

            @Degeneracy: Just keep applying. You'll get better at applying and interviewing with time. And your keenness will show, people like that.

  • jbu22en on 15/01/2024 - 17:27
    +2

    Who would you employ, particularly for a customer facing or uniformed role?
    1. Any person who wants to do the minimum work for the minimum wage and will likely damage the brand, have no respect for customers, other staff or their environment?
    2. A person who sees the minimum wage as a protection against slave labour, who sees the potential in learning something about customer service, their colleagues or themselves, and demonstrates the ability to at least pretend to give a shit?

    You're competing with both of these people. Your experience and views are not universal.

    Bonus, though unsolicited advice: I hire in the tech space. High performers have great interpersonal skills. Without an attitude adjustment you will be a CompSci graduate who still can't get a job and is even more f****d.

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 17:33
      -1

      I did try to pretend I gave a shit.

      I just wish I could live of centrelink. I don't qualify for any disabilities though. I don't even want any kind of job

      • drfuzzy on 15/01/2024 - 18:02

        Have you considered selling your body?

        • Eeples on 15/01/2024 - 18:33

          Is chaturbate still a thing?

          Asking for the OP, of course.

      • timuzhti on 15/01/2024 - 19:37

        I don't qualify for any disabilities though.

        Hey, you never know unless you apply, but you do know that unemployed people without disabilities still get money from the government right? Not exactly a long term solution, but ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯. They will expect you to show up to appointments though, so uh… (Also, not sure what you'd use for ID if you don't have a licence but I assume there are alternatives)

      • sumyungguy on 15/01/2024 - 21:28

        You present as neurodivergent… NDIS perhaps?

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 21:29

          Probably am. Parents never got me tested for ADHD, Autism or Schizoid which I might have.

          But millions of the above live normal lives

  • EdenKai on 15/01/2024 - 17:33
    +4

    From what it sounds like, youre messing up at the interview process. Which to me means youre probably saying something during the interview that tips the scales against you. The post alone you seem to talk about some jobs being beneath you, and honestly the volunteering statement on its own was already a touch of a red flag. Not that youre saying that in the interview, but if you talk like that in the interview, yeah I probably wouldnt hire you.

    The other thing, dont tell them you wont stay or dont plan on being there long term, they already probably know that, but if they know you plan on leaving, they just assume that youll do it much much sooner.

    Look, i used to be a part of the hiring process for my company, now all I do is read resumes and tell my manager which one seemed good and which one didnt hit the mark. Your lack of skills on a resume is gonna be jarring, especially if you have done actually nothing. The whole point of volunteering is to add to the resume, whether you like it or not, it adds meat to the resume. I did volunteering so that when I did my first full time job they were like " Oh you did a charity thing" and it gave me a talking point into how good my character is, true or not.

    Again, from the post though, you seem to have a bad attitude. You probably actually dont, but you seem like someone who probably who rub a lot of people the wrong way. And i wouldnt want that in my work environment.

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 17:34
      +2

      Yeah a mistake I made was that I said I would be gone within a year to get a better job. I see how saying that was a mistake

      • moar bargains on 15/01/2024 - 18:32
        +5

        Well that's a positive learning experience so now you'll know for next time.
        Don't be tempted to go to the opposite extreme if this comes up again though: "Oh, I plan to devote my life to McWorker Corporation and name my first child after the CEO". That is equally as much of a red flag. If they ask, give a non-committal middle-ground answer. Something like: "I would appreciate this opportunity at this stage in my life and hope to learn everything I can from it".

  • bargain huntress on 15/01/2024 - 17:35
    +2

    Why have you labelled yourself as a bad person?
    Why dont you want to improve yourself?

  • Grunntt on 15/01/2024 - 17:38
    +2

    I have to ask - what reason made you create an account on a bargain shopping site just to make this post if you're not just trolling?
    Even if you're just bored, and looking to aggravate some old people, there's probably more suitable targets online for you.

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 18:15

      I got banned from every subrefdddit imaginalbe. I can't be arsed getting karma

  • phoenix17 on 15/01/2024 - 17:45
    +1

    I went to WSU as well.

    I got my first industry job as an engineering intern in my second year, by getting to know and constantly asking the careers advisor about job openings. They (the employer) didn't give a shit about my grades, or if I had failed a subject. They just wanted someone eager to learn and do the job (and I was also the first person to apply). It was a nice feeling having full-time work lined up before graduating.

    But good luck passing the attitude test.

    • Peaky on 15/01/2024 - 18:59
      +1

      Good advice but I'd be very suprised if OP makes it to second year.

  • stingy-oz on 15/01/2024 - 17:56

    tbh - there's plenty of jobs around but sounds like you fail interview as opposed to unable to get interview. So, try to recall what question was asked and how you answered them. If you go around saying "I don't care helping people" ; then you probably won't get anything.

    Even fruit picking, if you don't mind the travel out of metro to get them.

  • drfuzzy on 15/01/2024 - 18:00

    You could apply for welfare, but based on your bad luck, I assume they will reject you too.

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 18:15

      I'm 18. I don't qualify for youth allowance

      • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 18:16
        +1

        Time to practice those research skills for uni then. Unless your parents earn shitloads, you qualify for youth allowance as a full-time uni student.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 18:18

          Our income is around 200K. No chance in hell

          • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 18:19

            @Degeneracy: Well how do you expect to get Centrelink then if you want money but won't make more of an effort to gain employment?

          • SBOB on 15/01/2024 - 18:37
            +3

            @Degeneracy:

            Our income

            "Their income".
            You don't get to say "our" when it's your parents, and you don't contribute anything to the household earnings.

      • drfuzzy on 15/01/2024 - 18:54

        You would qualify for welfare if you quit your studies.

        I'm not sure why you are studying as you say you don't want to work.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 18:55

          Don't want to although parents aint' gonna be happy if I sit around with welfare.

      • timuzhti on 15/01/2024 - 19:42

        @Degeneracy: Just looked it up for you, if you are 18 to 24 you can qualify for youth allowance for full time students. If you're studying part time instead, youth allowance for jobseekers is 16 to 21. So if you have turned 18 age doesn't disqualify you.

        https://my.gov.au/en/services/education/help-when-studying/f…

        https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/youth-allowance-for-job…

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 20:16

          But my parents make too much for me to be qualified

          • timuzhti on 15/01/2024 - 20:36
            +1

            @Degeneracy: OK, sure, if age isn't the only problem. You mentioned that you'd be happy with a call centre job. Keeping in mind most of these are still minimum wage, or close to it, did you get any feedback from the ones you've applied to? You do usually need to poke the recruiter afterwards to get that.

            Or, IDK if you've heard anything from the Telcos that have stores (Telstra/Optus/Voda/etc). I do know TSN was having pretty bad staff shortages maybe a year back but I'm not up to date on the exact situation now. Again, it's probably worth giving the recruiter or manager a poke if you get a negative response.

  • May4th on 15/01/2024 - 18:05
    +2

    I feel bad that OP might take onboard all the advice presented and actually get a job.. good luck to whatever business is lucky enough to have him/her

  • Mortal Krumpet on 15/01/2024 - 18:12
    +1

    I don't know you so I'm just going to make a comment based on what I read in your OP.

    Ultimately, they want something done reliably and if you're not going to make them confident that you're going to achieve that, then why would they hire you.

    People who managers want to hire, are people who do jobs well, regardless of the level.. After all, they are still paying you to do something regardless of the amount. Those same people may end up in better jobs after they finish with the minimum wage one, but whatever job they do, they do with effort / well.

    Based on your comment, you don't want to do that and based on your motivations, I imagine it probably shows through in interviews clearly for those doing the hiring. If they have a choice of someone who seems like they are going to make a good worker.. why would they go with someone who openly seems to not care about the job.

  • LaProblematique on 15/01/2024 - 18:35
    +2

    How is this soapbox troll of a thread still open when mods are so quick to shut down similar trash threads?

  • MrThing on 15/01/2024 - 18:57

    Nice troll beta

  • randomusername2017 on 15/01/2024 - 19:03

    ❄️❄️Trolled hard…

  • syousef on 15/01/2024 - 19:35

    My question is: Was ChatGPT used for this troll?

    Member Since 14/01/2024

    I'm guessing it's someone we already know and love/loathe.

    • nandystam on 15/01/2024 - 19:45
      -1

      SlavOz?

      • syousef on 15/01/2024 - 19:49

        No idea, and no interest in guessing. Just stinks of a familiarity with the board.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 20:28

          I remember using this forum in 2012 back when I was 6. Who tf would want to use their real account for a post like this.

  • wimphrel on 15/01/2024 - 20:40
    +1

    Little bit concerned the poster could be in a bout of depression, so I thought I'd post my own experience - I actually came from the opposite end of the spectrum: I had a pretty high UAI (older version of ATAR), and funnily enough I too couldn't get a part time job at the 'usual' places: KFC, hospitality, etc.

    The fact that you got interviews clearly shows you were doing better than me. Woolworths responded to my resume that I submitted in year 12…. after my 4th year of uni? (Digital hiring systems weren't a thing back then). I was a bit of an awkward nerd, so yeah, my inability to get along or be able to talk about sport or popular culture limited my ability to build a rapport with the managers of the day. I just gave up and decided to focus on my field of study to ensure I did well at it to get a job. (Also worked on my awkwardness during uni and my 'much-cooler' uni mates helped a lot with that). I DID finally end up getting a part time job as a software tutor in 3rd year, but I did aim for that from 1st year once I saw that my marks were good enough (you didn't need the best marks, but they still needed to be good).

    If you have parents that can support you, then perhaps one way of looking at things is to just give up on the unskilled part-time job altogether - focus on finding what you're strong at at uni: Comp Sci. may not be for you -> you might change your mind. The important thing is find out what on earth you want to do for 50 years whilst at Uni if you can.

    I am a engineer/comp sci graduate and doing quite well -> I've met a few people who did not do well at high school, but did great at software because it was something they liked (Good at math also doesn't necessarily translate to programming capability -> mathematicians were not the best at programming :P, but if you like math there are careers in consulting if you go into applied math).
    Also FYI: Playing games isn't the same as writing a game though, so you'll need to figure out if software IS what you want to do with your 50 or so year career. Games play on your addiction with instant gratification, so you'll have to be careful not to get too dependent on that kinda stuff (Although may be one could argue a FROM software game requires long-term skills to master :D)

    Hopefully you'll find something to aspire to during Uni or meet some people you can 'gel' well with & get some inspiration from them. Once that happens things will look up for you and hopefully you'll start getting out of the rut you're in. If you end up re-reading this forum you'll probably laugh & appreciate the advice people are offering you now.

    Best of luck!

    • R4 on 15/01/2024 - 21:17

      maths

  • moar bargains on 15/01/2024 - 21:27
    +5

    I think you are probably grieving/struggling with the loss of stability and routine that school has provided in your life for as long as you remember. That's a perfectly reasonable and normal thing to experience, and I did too. These big changes in life can really suck, and it can really throw you.

    You are also clearly angry, but the anger isn't going to help you. Ranting on an internet forum isn't going to help. Neither is commiserating with online doomcult 'friends'. It might make you feel better for 10 seconds/minutes, but then the dopamine hit will fade and you're back to where you were. No one owes you anything. You don't get to have a job just because you exist. Find some way of getting rid of that, without increasing it. Physical activity helps. Scream, hit a pillow, punching bag, or wall, go for a walk or a run, whatever. Also, if you're in any online groups that spend a lot of time talking this way ("life sucks, it's so unfair, everyone is against me/us") get out while you still can.

    However, more importantly you also seem to be feeling powerless to change anything about your circumstances (or the currently important bits anyway) and a fruitless job search can also be very demoralising. Sometimes we need help from other people to help change our circumstances. Someone with Down's Syndrome or disabilities often has access to support in the form of employment agencies and other supports to help them to get and keep a job. You don't have access to that, but you do have access to other supports, you just may not know it. The first step though is that you have to start by asking for help, and being humble enough to listen and learn from the answer.

    I don't believe you're actually as bad a person as you make out. You are lacking self esteem and I think you are craving genuine human connection IRL. You also seem to be self-sabotaging to some extent (e.g. declaring high school friendships dead, despite not putting any effort into maintaining them). However you also seem to be self-aware in some areas, even if you may be exaggerating for internet points. So some questions for you to ponder, and some suggestions that I genuinely hope might help.

    Questions:

    These are for introspection. You don't need to respond to me, but your responses will shape your next steps.

    1. You claim to not have any goals or desires in life. Is that actually, really, genuinely true? You truly don't want to be a better person, have a romantic relationship, learn/play a musical instrument, open a pottery gallery, win an esports tournament, travel to a different country, whatever it is? You can't imagine ever wanting to buy a new PC/console or game?
    2. If the above is true, do you want that to be true? Do you want to have goals, desires, fulfilling relationships, satisfaction in life etc?
    3. You claim to not like leaving your bedroom, and not liking people. Do you want this to change?
    4. If there was something you could do to change your circumstances, would you do it (within reason)? E.g. if it was "walk to the mall every day for the next month" (assuming you don't already do this), or "have a meeting with this person".

    Life Suggestions:

    Assuming you want to change your circumstances and not just wallow, here are some suggestions of the next steps to take.

    1. Talk to a GP or Beyond Blue. You appear to have depression. Depression is not just feeling sad, it's also a lack of vitality and enjoyment of life. A GP can refer you to another provider via a mental health care plan (ask them about it) which is paid via Medicare for 12 sessions. So you can go and talk to a professional, who can help you with these feelings of helplessness over your circumstances.
    2. Your self awareness might help you gamify your life. Can you try and disassociate a little, and treat your future as a game of sorts? "I need to improve this aspect of my player, what steps do I need to take to do that?" or "In order to <whatever>, my character needs to <do something>. How do I do that?". There are apps that can help you do this, or you can DIY it. This post would be a good first point to try this. "My character wants a job. Here are some suggestions on how to make that happen. I'm going to list the suggestions, rank them, and try the best one while tracking progress."
    3. Find something each day to be grateful/thankful for, and write it down. Look back on these things regularly.
    4. I honestly think you should defer Uni (at this stage). However, it sounds like you will need to talk to your parents and convince them that you have a better plan. That's your next task.
    5. Talk to your parents or another older person you trust and can talk to face-to-face. Really talk. I don't know what your relationship with your parents are, but if it's fractious, then they may not be the best people for the first talk. Tell them what you're feeling, and that you're unsure what to do next. Tell them what you've done already, and what next steps you can think of. Ask them for their help and suggestions, and listen to their answers and suggestions. If you're going to defer Uni, tell them what your plan is for the year instead, and set some realistic goals. If they are going to continue to support you, you need to show them what you're doing to move towards something better.
    6. You should set some goals and ask someone to hold you accountable to them. It could and should start small. Things like: "This week I'm going to apply for 5 jobs" or "I'm going to spend 5 minutes each day learning about mental health/job interview tips/Portuguese grammar/whatever", but you need to do things for self improvement.
    7. Once you're feeling a bit more positive about life, you need to find ways to get out and meet people, and find people you can connect well with. Relationships are a vital part of being human, and they can't be replicated by online chats. You need to share experiences with real live people to bond. If you're as introverted as you appear, it will be hard and awkward to start, but it will get easier the more you practice.

    Job suggestions:

    1. Honestly, get your life and mental health sorted out first. Everything is going to be a lot harder until you can break free from your current state of despair.
    2. Stop thinking black and white, and stop comparing yourself to hypothetical people, especially those who you clearly look down on (e.g. with disabilities). The only person you should be comparing yourself with is past you. "How did I handle that interview better than past me? How will future me answer that question better?"
    3. Get someone else to look over your resume. They may be able to offer suggestions that you haven't thought of.
    4. Could you build/repair computers or something similar? That's something you can do from your bedroom, without much people contact, while you're working on your mental health.
    5. When you're in a better place, think about what you might like to do, and what steps you might need to take to get there.

    There's lots of other things I could say, but hopefully that's a start. As I said, I genuinely hope you can find some help in the above. We all get that it's hard, but no one can do it for you.

  • nosey on 15/01/2024 - 21:42
    +2

    Minimum wage doesnt mean minimum effort. Im sure those 7/11 workers have heaps of chores to do when not serving. And those in retail have KPIs/targets to meet.

    Many businesses are crying out for staff but they dont want to hire unreliable/lazy people.

    When i was your age, i just wanted to play games at home too. My dad said once i finished high school i had to join the military, go to uni or do a trade but either way i had to move out. Ended up joining the military and it had positives/negatives but overall it was great. Had lots of experiences, made great mates for life and led me to other good employment options when i left.

    Maybe hit up an ADF recruitment team and see whats available after your aptitude testing. You can also do uni with them through ADFA. Pretty sweet way to study and get paid.

    Your attitude needs some work but ill put that down to youth and possibly poor mental health. No harm in giving a mental health service a call for a chat about how you feel.

  • leiiv on 15/01/2024 - 21:43

    I just want a minimum wage job. That's all I want. I'm not asking for a high paying job. I just want to get paid minimum wage

    Ok here's my thought. Irrespective to one's (particular) attitude and excuses and whatsoever, I think it is in the best interest of the government (and society in general) to make sure that there is always a job (of min wage) for everyone, as long as they are willing to work and don't have corrupt mentality (eg steal stuff or time). I mean, why would anyone care whether someone honestly "just want to work for money" or "also wants to help others" if the task they do everyday is, for example, just to move stuff from point A to point B?

    But OP still has too many excuses, no driving, no travelling, etc. What else OP? Can you list all your "can't do" in one place?

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 21:51

      I gave up a while ago. it's not worth my time anymore. but it's below if you want to see it

      No driving
      No certifications(RSA, Forklift)
      No Working with kids
      No Lifeguard(involving people's lives)
      No working for free
      No janitor shit
      No freelance
      No hard labor

      Minimal interacting with people beyond pleasantries

      • leiiv on 15/01/2024 - 22:35

        Define hard labor. Is blowing leaves categorised as hard labor? How about cleaning houses that include toilet, is it also in the janitor/hard labor bucket?
        And why no freelance? Why wouldn't you take a job to build websites for example? What about computer troubleshooting? What getting money from entering gaming competition? Is it also in the "too hard" bucket?

        You also forgot to include no riding bikes.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 22:37

          Doesn't matter anymore. it's too late now.

          not skilled enough to build websites. Can't computer troubleshoot. I'm not a pro-gamer.

          And yeah no riding bikes.

          I have zero talent or ambition. Yes there are people like me on the planet

          • SBOB on 15/01/2024 - 23:03
            +1

            @Degeneracy:

            not skilled enough to build websites. Can't computer troubleshoot.

            Might want to bail on that comp sci degrees before HECS cut off date if I was you

            • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 23:07

              @SBOB: we join a degree to learn. not because we already know

        • fabilo on 15/01/2024 - 22:37

          Why would someone hire some unskilled person to build their business a website when there are plenty of skilled people who can do a good job.. or even skilled starters who would do it for free for experience

  • ihbh on 15/01/2024 - 21:47
    +1

    On the bright side, your written English is pretty good, which is more than many OzBers can claim.

    Everyone started from zip; some take longer than others - there might be some luck involved (or lack of), so persist.

    Target your strengths - can you get a temporary editing job? Offer to do some free secretarial work to get the experience.

    I applied for my first jobs after I graduated from university in a major recession. I had top grades all my life and felt entitled. I asked and got good feedback after the first couple of interviews, especially from placement professionals - my spoken English was poor (I grew up and went to schools in the West) and I didn't dress the part. I was pretty lazy (self awareness), especially compared to the hungry, just as smart competitors for the jobs. I changed my attitude and approach quick smart.

    • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 22:24

      Offer to do some free secretarial work to get the experience.

      OP won’t do this because it’s (to quote them), a waste of time. They won’t work for free. Furthermore, they despise English, and many of their comments have numerous spelling errors in them.

  • Powlie85 on 15/01/2024 - 21:51

    Are you confident when you speak? Can people hear your voice loud enough?

  • drfuzzy on 15/01/2024 - 22:20
    +1

    I think you should just lie on the ground.

    There is no point doing anything else.

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 22:22

      all I do is watch anime and play games. Way ahead of you boss

      • leiiv on 15/01/2024 - 22:37

        I think what drfuzzy meant is that you should just ride a bike again.

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 22:38

          I almost died. I'm never touching those horrid things again

  • fabilo on 15/01/2024 - 22:35
    +1

    I can already see the repost of this when you're job seeking after you graduate uni

    • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 22:39
      +2

      I was thinking more when they fail their first semester of uni

  • Mdjz76 on 15/01/2024 - 22:35

    I actually think you'd make a great Neurosurgeon.

  • ElusivePotato89 on 15/01/2024 - 22:42
    +1

    Keen for that uni reality check lmao

    If you're putting in this much effort into getting a job, you're not going to make it through that degree. I've seen the hours my comp sci buddies put into it. Save some HECS and transfer before the census date lol

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 22:47

      Quite honestly, if I can't manage computer science, I'm running to the Northern Territory and living of centrelink. won't have to pay HECS

      • kerfuffle on 15/01/2024 - 22:50

        You know you have to put in effort to qualify for Centrelink payments, right?

        • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 22:52
          -1

          I can't get a job trying, i wouldn't be able to get one not trying

    • Degeneracy on 15/01/2024 - 22:49
      -1

      Also 65 atar isn't to bad. It's elitist to say that almost half of australia's population can't do it. It's not medicine lmao

  • GuitarXXX on 16/01/2024 - 00:05
    +2

    I like this post now, like how OP just dissed every comment that can benefit him.

    I don't think you need a job, you probably need to start primary school over again.

  • liongalahad on 16/01/2024 - 00:26
    +1

    Went through lots of your comments and all I can say is before you look for a job you should seek for help.
    Speak with a shrink. Can't promise, but surely it won't make you worse and more hopeless than you currently are.
    Or even a psychiatrist, maybe there's some medication that can help you to make something with your life, seriously. And maybe they will diagnose you with some kind of personality disorder and you will be entitled to some centrelink help - better than nothing I guess

    • Degeneracy on 16/01/2024 - 01:54

      Parents don't believe mental illnesses exist. I tried to get adderal/ritalin, but they said all is does is "make you sleepy".

      • liongalahad on 16/01/2024 - 02:03
        +1

        Your parents have a point, psychiatric drugs are no joke and in some case they make worse than one is, especially in case of a misdiagnosis.
        But if you get diagnosed properly and find a good psychiatrist that has good understanding and good ethics, drugs can do wonders. I know a couple of friends who have been helped massively by psychiatric drugs and could turn their life around positively thanks to them.
        In any case, you are 18, you don't need your parents' approval. Speak with a GP.

      • kerfuffle on 16/01/2024 - 06:21
        +1

        You're 18. You don't need permission from your parents to seek mental health support.

  • alexdagr8 on 16/01/2024 - 00:33
    +1

    I say. Apply for 100,
    get an in person interview for 10,
    you’ll possibly get one. Do that a few times and you’re gold. Applying for jobs and tailoring your resume is key.
    Google resume template, each job you do, you’ll add to it (just email it to your personal email after applying for each job)

    If you don’t have anything on your resume, add volunteering experience. Mention you played in a team sport.
    Sounds like it’s your attitude as well. Have a “can do” attitude. “point me in the right direction and I’ll get it done” attitude.
    Tell them what they want to hear as well.
    You need to be a yes person as well, agree with them, let them know you’re a team player.
    Each of these things help. Anything they say loosely bring it back to your experience and how that can benefit the company.

    Failing all this, an apprenticeship or tafe would be good, at the very least you’ll have something to add to your resume, find courses that are free through the government.

  • randomusername2017 on 16/01/2024 - 01:10

    vote 1

  • Degeneracy on 16/01/2024 - 01:51
    -3

    Ozbargainers!

    I am proud to inform you at 1:51AM on the 16th of January 2024 that I have a plan to help me get a job

    It's called lying my teeth off. Now I have a 96.65 atar and topped eco/mathadv in my cohort. I also volunteered extensively throughout the school and even got a paid gig somewhere there. I now have a lot of experiance with customer service.

    Thank you for the help. Especially you @kerfuffle

    • liongalahad on 16/01/2024 - 01:58
      +3

      you are giving lots of detail, gotta hope your potential employer is not an OzBargainer lol

    • Mikeer on 16/01/2024 - 09:30
      +2

      The sad thing is that a lot of people have genuinely put in effort to explain to you how the world works - you do not have a right to a minimum wage job, you need to contribute at least $23.23 worth of value per hour to someone else in order for them to give that money to you.

      You indicated you do not care about performing the job, you believe that "minimum wage means minimum effort", that it's all about "making some billionaire richer", "Too much people. Japan and Korea have it good."

      Just answer one question - where do you get these opinions?

      • Watch a lot of Twitch? Which streamers?
      • Spend a lot of time on Reddit? Which subreddits?
      • Spend a lot of time on 4chan or imageboards? Which boards?
      • Watch a lot of anime? Which one?
      • Play a lot of games? Which ones?

      I am just curious who filled your head those things.

    • p1 ama on 16/01/2024 - 09:59
      +1

      It's called lying my teeth off. Now I have a 96.65 atar and topped eco/mathadv in my cohort. I also volunteered extensively throughout the school and even got a paid gig somewhere there. I now have a lot of experiance with customer service.

      As a hiring manager myself, if you're already getting interviews (which from your posts, you are), your qualifications and CV are not the problem, your personality, attitude, communication…etc. are.

      Nobody cares what's on your CV once you've already made it to an interview - it's good enough, the question is whether you are someone they want to work with on a day-to-day basis.

  • worldpc on 16/01/2024 - 02:55

    If your lying through the teeth strategy doesn't work out.

    Try signing up to some causal labour hiring agency, I was during COVID.

    If and when they need people to do a shift they will SMS or call you, number of shift is unstable but it just some side money and something to put on your resume when you find better job.

    Find the ones that mainly hiring pick packer/ factory hand works, so you don't have to deal with customers.

    I am not a people person either, but just do whatever is required to keep the job, you can be straight but don't be rude, be professional as you would to any job, be it labour work or IT, you don't need to make friends but you are to show up on time, follow instructions and do the job you are assigned to.

    Also you think is easy to get Centrelink payment, it's almost a full time job, except you get paid way below minimum wage, half the week you got be at the job agency attending appointments, useless activities and worse of all work for the dole.

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