Awesome deal on the best gaming cpu on the market! As far as I know this is the cheapest it's ever been.
Ryzen 5 7600x also on sale for $322:
https://www.shoppingexpress.com.au/buy/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-5.3…
Don't forget to enter coupon code BFCMNOV2023 at checkout to take 10% off and get the price to $529
1% surcharge for Card & PayPal payments.
$529.20 + shipping starting from $9.90 so looking at $539.10 minimum. ($544.49 with surcharge if paying by card or PayPal)
Great price and definitely the cheapest "add to cart and pay" + there's an offer for a free Cooler Master mouse during checkout.
I realise the following won't be for everyone, but those who don't much care for the mouse could get the CPU cheaper if willing to jump through some hoops. (eBay Plus + discounted gift cards + cashback)
| 729.00 | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D CPU @ Computer Alliance eBay |
| -160.38 | 22% off with eBay Plus code BF22AU |
| =$568.62 | |
| -34.08 | $568 Exchange eGift Card for $533.92 (swap to eBay after purchasing) via 6% off $20 Minimum Spend on eGift Cards (Maximum 2 Gift Cards) @ Gift Card Exchange |
| =$534.54 | Price with discounted gift cards |
| -20.00 | eBay: 7% Cashback ($20 Cap, Excludes All Coupons except BF20AU/BF22AU/BFDEAL) @ ShopBack |
| -3.00 | eBay: $3 Bonus Cashback (Min Spend $30) @ ShopBack via App |
| =$511.54 | Price with discounted gift cards and cashback |
If you have a CBA credit card and CBA offers you $10 cashback on $50+ eBay purchase, you could potentially stack that. Could save another $8.
the smarthomestoreau ebay listing (which I believe is just Kai Seng) is around $10 cheaper than the CA listing. so the ATL with discounted gift cards is 520-something
You might not get the bonus Avatar game if you buy from smarthomestoreau.
@HomeAlone: As I said, smarthomestoreau is just Kai Seng = Shopping Express. They’ll probably give you a code if you ask them. This was the same story back then with Starfield and numerous other ebay stores run by KS
@povogamer: As I said, you might not get the bonus game. You'd be wise to check before buying from them.
I've had Futu deny me in the past and they also operate as Kai Seng. (Invoice has Futu logo, but ABN and business name listed as Kai Seng Computer Solution Pty Ltd T/A)
Shopping Express on the other hand operates as Shopping Express Pty Ltd.
Thanks. Any deals on the 16 core you guys are aware of?
No, thats just silly.
Am also looking for this.
And 2x32 GB DDR5 at 6000MHz
Don't think there are atm. The best bet if you needed it now would have been the EBay cashback deals stacked with the BF codes. Managed to get the 7900x (12 cores) for only $10 more than this (of course, this CPU and the one I bought are aimed for different use cases)
Damn…I pulled the trigger yesterday on the Ebay deal for $568.62 😐
I feel your pain
Can you not get this one and return the one from ebay?
How does this compare with 14700k
14700K has more cores so generally better for production work.
In gaming it's a mixed bag. Some favour AMD and some Intel.
Generally you get better bang for your buck going with the 7800X3D for gaming. It's like the golden CPU for gaming. It's also more efficient than the 14700K.
But if you do work and play, then go 14700K
You also have to take into consideration the whole platform cost. AMD AM5 will be supported for at least another generation, and could have the the same life span as AM4, which allowed some people to upgrade from 1st gen Ryzen to 5th gen Ryzen with the same motherboard.14th gen won't be supported after this generation as Intel moves to a new architecture.
Fair enough, how many years of life at the top end with 14700k before you need to change motherboard and cpu? would you get 3 years out of it?
AMD AM5 will be supported for at least another generation, and could have the the same life span as AM4
Good to keep in mind that CPU technology will improve nowhere near as much over the next few generations as it did over the last few. Completely agree that AM5 will have better platform longevity than LGA1700, but you won't get the same generational improvements as on AM4 - the "9800X3D" (or whatever it will be called) will not be anywhere as big an upgrade over the 7800X3D as the 5800X3D was over the 2700X (or similar).
Didn't ppl say the same thing for last gen Intel ? 13600k, that was meant to be replaced but then again 14th gen is using the same motherboard
@botchie: Keep in mind the "14th gen" is just a better clocked 13th. Realistically it wasn't a new gen but for marketing purposes, it officially is the 14th
@GrabOzB: again, same was said of 12th gen, that 13th is just overclocked.
I dont feel there has been any major CPU improvements in the last few gen that is worth an upgrade
if you get a CPU now it should easily last you few generations
@botchie: 13th gen was a respectable bump from 12th gen. 14th gen is the same performance +1-2% at best.
I prefer not to speculate on future performance improvements, but based on rumours Zen 5 will already provide up 30% improvement in performance over Zen 4. AMD has normally been close to these figures in the past when launching a new generation. It's only Intel who performance improvements have been negligible due to the limitations of 10nm, reliance on increasing voltage and implementation of E cores because the can't fit more P cores on the die.
It's only Intel who performance improvements have been negligible
I'm not making an AMD vs. Intel comparison, rather, I'm saying that those who are basing purchasing decisions for AM5 by looking at AM4 should realise that they will likely not get the same longevity nor the same pathways that AM4 provided.
AM4 benefited from two distinct things that AM5 will not - (i) over the lifetime of AM4, AMD went from offering 8-core processes to 16-core processors (e.g. from the 1800X to the 3950X or 5950X), we're not likely to see any core increases over the life of AM5, and (ii) the introduction of the 3D V-cache technology, which offered a marked improvement in gaming.
Without these step-change improvements, AM5 will likely not offer as attractive a pathway.
7800x3D draws less power and easier to cool than 14700k, i will pick 7800x3D for gaming/daily/entertain PC. Only 14700k if I am using it for production (gaming performance is pretty similar).
Review below (bottom has almost complete test inc gaming at diff res, apps, temp, power draw ect)
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-14700k/19.h…
What motherboard would you get with 7800x3d that is best bang for buck?
How much is shipping+surcharge
at minimum, $9.90 for shipping and I guess 1% surcharge, so the total cost would be $544.50 or greater.
Do you still get Avatar with this?
You should yes, as far as i am aware, the promo isn't tied to any specific retailer but rather purchase of an relevant AMD cpu or gpu itself.
Oh damn, I stand corrected.
Does this include the Avatar free game?
edit: just checked AMD site and shopping express is included in their list of retailers
This CPU just keeps tanking in price since I bought it a couple of months back
Welcome to the world of consumer electronics (Covid, crypto, and AI GPU prices not included)
Other Ryzen 7000 series CPU's have held stable, but the X3D's have dropped significantly.
at least it’s not a stock and you can’t even use it
The other x3d was just under $500 and held that value for years so the pace of drop value on this brand new super gaming chip is actually extraordinary
5800x3d probably held value more due to much cheaper platform cost (or none for people already on am4). 7800x3d needs to attract people to the new platform somehow.
Any good deals on a WiFi 6 motherboard for this CPU?
Comes with a random Cooler Master MM310 RGB LED Optical Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse, make sure to select to add to cart if you want it for free. Postage was $9.90 to Sydney
Would be nice if it still came with the free corsair keyboard but its removed from the cart when you add the code.
Firstly amazing deal and great price.
I am so tempted to finally upgrade from the 3700x but the hefty cost of overall upgrade is the bother.
Zen2 to zen4. Need new Ram and mobo. Also am not sure my arctic 360 cooler will be sufficient for this. Can anyone confirm please? I thought zen4 run very hot.
Also assume I'll get next to nothing for my 3700x build :(
Also assume I'll get next to nothing for my 3700x build :(
Just set it aside for 30 years until it gains proper retro status. Keep boxes, accessories and documentation to double your investment.
You'll be fine.
The whole "it runs hot" comes from the fact that the chip is designed to hit its thermal limit to allow it to run as fast as it can and you can always adjust that ceiling yourself.
I am running a 7700X on air cooling (Deepcool AK620) and just now I hit all core speed of 5.15GHz while running Cinebench R23 with a bit of tweaking (undervolting with curve optimiser) so while 7800X3D runs hotter I am sure running a 360 would be plenty sufficient. In less intensive tasks like gaming I always see cores hit 5.5Ghz.
I also upgrade from a 3700X and it's a massive boost in performance.
Have been waiting for a deal for the 5800X3D to keep my motherboard. Also upgrading from a 3700X. Seems to have increased in price over time, rather than decreased. Know of any deals ?
I am also waiting for deals on the 5800X3D, none yet sadly :(
Yea, most people (Like myself) jumped on them when they dropped just under $500 late 2022, which I figured would be the lowest they'd go. They have been hovering around the $550-$600 mark since.
Just for clarification because there is a lot of people which don't seem to know the difference, I think you a referring to temperature, which is different from the TDP in Watts. A CPU can have a high temperature, but it doesn't mean that it has a high TDP and is hard to cool. Hence Ryzen and the recent Threadripper 7000 CPUs can easily run on decent air cooler, because the 7800X3D has a TDP of about 120W to 160W. An air cooler like the Thermalright Peerless Assassin will be fine.
Intel high end CPUs have a high TDP of up to 253W+ which is not manageable by most air coolers without throttling. You only have to refer to the MSI website for example. Where they state that the 14900k exceeds a TDP of 320w and needs a really good 360 AIO cooler that can soak up all the heat outputted by the CPU.
https://www.msi.com/blog/recommended-cooler-for-intel-14th-g…
3700x still sells for 150-200, even with 15% ebay fee you'll get get a decent amount, 300ish if you sell motherboard+ram too.
Sometimes SE have some pretty good combo deals. Might be a few added over the day
good price but cpu posts aren't as crazy as gpu's. gpu's impact on games is immediate, cpu is implicit (and small)
There are many CPU-bound games where a weak CPU will prevent your GPU from stretching its legs.
I was actually doing some testing yesterday with Fortnite.
i5 11400 system with RTX 3070 was experiencing massive frame dips at 3840x1600 high settings in DX12.
With i5 12400 system and same GPU, it was smooth as butter with the same settings.
I currently have the latter on a B660m mobo. Trying to decide whether upgrading CPU to a 12700k or sell the current CPU/mobo/ram and go with AM5. Wondering if upgrading without a GPU switch is worthwhile.
This is incorrect.
Best to do some research.
Holy shit, $60 less than the last all time low. Regret buying a few days ago LOL.
I bought it yesterday 😉
My 7800x3d is cooled by a lt720 360mm aio. Gaming temps are 50 to 60c cinebench max temps 78c, things like game shaders at launch hammer the cpu and cache. The chip is cool compared to the other parts. I also went for max stability and efficiency with voltages dropping across the board. Nice 16 watts idle power usage with 6000 cl30 ram :)
Any good deals on RAM?
I picked up a Corsair Vengeance RGB 6000MHz CL30 64GB kit from Computer Alliance eBay store for $299 the other day (22% off code + $20 cash back) that kit should be Hynix M-die as well so hopefully I can get the same super tight timing I’m getting on my current 32GB kit.
That's a sweet deal you got there! That kit usually runs above $350. I know someone who's running it at CL30 6000MHZ. Are you thinking of tweaking the RAM to be tighter than that? As much as I'd love to jump in on this, I gotta pass – I've committed to the white aesthetic.
I feel you mate I have a mix of white and black setup myself (currently white cooler and ram) so I sat on that ram kit for a while too not sure if everything black and just the cooler being white is going to look weird but it's just too good of a price to pass up in the end haha.
I might try to see if I can get CL28; currently running my 32GB Corsair kit at 6200MHz 30-38-38-30 with Buildzoid's secondary timings stable (overnight Prime95 large test, y-cruncher, memtest) so I wonder if I keep it at 6000MHz if it'll go tighter.
Picked one up, time to upgrade my 4+ year build from a r5 3600
Still running 3700x the only upgrade will do is 4080 ti, cpu isn’t that important
CPU is important. It's importance varies depending on gpu, resolution and game.
Well cpus are like even mid lower tiers still can do a acceptable job in games but as for gpus, below certain model, just can’t run certain games in certain circumstances:)
Anyone recommend a good mini-ITX motherboard to go with this?
Asus ROG Strix X670E-I. If you have the budget for Ryzen 7 7800X3D, high end GPU, then might as well get a quality ITX board? It's your credit card, not mine.
I pulled the trigger on a Ryzen 5 7600 from the Computer alliance eBay store for $319.02. What would have the extra $3 gotten me if I had waited for this deal on the Ryzen 5 7600X?
Um, for extra $3:
So, you don't have an excuse to buy a fancy CPU cooler basically.
Ahh, thanks. I was worried the "X" version might have had some performance advantage that would make me regret getting the non-X version.
I'm gonna reuse my U14S, so I didn't need to spend on a cooler regardless..
I see, you already have U14S. 7600X is a 105 TPD part though with that cooler, you could set the BIOS to run 7600 with 105 TPD as well.
Below is the article:
https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-ryzen-5-7600x-vs…
Personally, I think it is not worthwhile to overspend on first gen AM5 systems. 7800X3D does top the charts in gaming, but non 3D version of the CPUs don't beat Intel 13th gen offerings in terms of performance.
@netsurfer: I'm of the same mindset, though in this case it was only $3. Though $3 is a "why not?" amount, it looks like there's basically no difference, I don't think I'll regret not spending the extra $3.
you seriously compare this to 7600?
Thanks OP, grabbed this deal (whooo! free mouse too lol). Pulled the trigger on the rest of my upgrade system too. Now to wait until next year for a GPU hopefully RTX supers will be good.
5800x3D price for 7800x3D, weird pricing as 5800x3D around the performance of 7600x
Yeh the 5800X3D still way too expensive if anyone wants one, problem is many do which is why the price is holding.
It makes sense, AMD are trying to push those already on AM4s to their new platform. No need to compete with themselves.
For anyone already on AM4, a 5800X3D probably saves around $250-$300 ($200 if you go really destitute with your motherboard and RAM) vs a 7600X, a decently equipped B650 board, and 32GB of DDR5 6000 CL30. That's the reason 5800X3D's are going to hold their value, because you can get 7600X/7700 tier gaming performance without needing to replace your entire PC.
For anyone parting out a new PC, a 7600X build works out cheaper for generally similar gaming performance, and a 7800X3D build ends up being not that much more expensive for a good chunk more. Caveats apply one way or the other depending on the type of games of course, some prefer having the extra cache over the improved clocks and IPC, some go the other way.
Whats a good motherboard to go with it?
yeah second this….what's good not povo one and not a $1000 one….
I went with Gigabyte B650 Gaming X AX
From what I have watched and read you dont need to or dont gain much by overclocking x3ds
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/YZgFf7/gigabyte-b650-gam…
https://www.gigabyte.com/au/Motherboard/B650-GAMING-X-AX-rev…
Oh i like 3x m2's
I have the Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX and it's been great so far with no issues. Paid $350 for it back in March
For those on AM4 does also let you get a Ryzen 5 5800X3D for $515 + shipping, still not the best price ever, I've kinda spent the last few days pondering the ITX platform cost to switchover from AM4 to AM5 haha, since currently the 5800X3D and 7800X3D are so close in price even on current sales.
Currently, it is the AM5 boards being overpriced and DDR5 stability issue holding most people back. Furthermore, unless you have Ryzen 5xxx series CPU, it is unlikely you will get a decent price when selling your AM4 CPU.
Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs Ryzen 5 7600X @1080p gaming
On average, Ryzen 7 5800X3D is 4% slower. First gen AM5 CPUs aren't really that great. The fact that you need to get X3D version to beat Intel 13th/14th gen CPUs in gaming shows that there will be room for improvement in future gens of AM5 CPUs. X3D also means you trade general performance (since the clock speed is lower) for gaming performance.
Ryzen 7 5800X3D is too popular since it is a quick upgrade for AM4 (which is now quite stable).
If it weren't for my desire to stay on ITX I'd definitely be switching to AM5, there's very good mATX motherboards available around the $200 mark such as the Gigabte B650M DS3H, and budget ones under $180 now. I feel if i sell my Ryzen 5 3600, 16GB of DDR4 RAM and B450-I ITX motherboard I'd be able to get at least a bit over $100 back, conservatively
There is a Gigabyte A620I AX mITX board on Amazon for $222, i feel the VRM and heatsink are capable enough but the board sacrifices other features, such as having only a single M.2 port and two SATA ports.
"The fact that you need to get X3D version to beat Intel 13th/14th gen CPUs"
The fact Intel needs to use 3 times the power consumption to compete with AMD. Fixed.
AM5 first gen CPUs currently also use more power than AM4 ones. If we really care about power usage, why don't we all move to Apple Silicon?
7800X3D is for gaming and it is essentially on par in terms of general app performance with 7700.
Blender 5 minutes test power usage, since 7800X3D is clocked lower than even 7700, it is biased.
You need to take Blender Performance into consideration as well. Intel does cheat, but for first gen AM5 CPUs, they are not perfect. That's why they are priced lower in general. It's relative. If you go for 7800X3D, you would most likely pair it with a beefy GPU and that GPU isn't going to be power efficient.
Premiere Pro Performance Per Watt, Intel 12/13th gen vs AMD AM5 7000 series. Intel wins. The min power draw figures really hurt AM5 first gen CPUs.
At idle, Intel can use the efficiency cores to lower the power usage. I have an AM5 system, but I am not going to sugarcoat it. For low power usage, currently, I don't go rush and use my AM5 system. We don't run Blender non stop. Also, if Intel CPUs finish the tasks earlier and went into idle power usage, its overall power usage won't be as bad as you think (because AM5 7000 series CPU's idle power usage is subpar).
To be fair though I think memory instability is much less of an issue now with the recent AGESA updates. For example I am currently running my DDR5 kit at 6200MHz at 30-38-38-30 + Buildzoid's secondary timings completely stable ( y-cruncher + memtest + overnight Prime95 large test).
… I've kinda spent the last few days pondering the ITX platform cost to switchover from AM4 to AM5
Make the decision after pricing for the 5700X3D and 5500X3D are announced
ITX will never be cheap on AM5 like the AM4 days
The PCB layer and VRM requirements for both DDR5 and Zen 4 TDP are jacked and PCI-e Gen 5 will make this even worse
with the 5800X3D it'll already be at the edge of maybe still wanting more performance, possibly not any room to allow for the 5700X3d and 5600X3D in my specific use case.
Also don't know if they'll even get released here.
regarding ITX AM4 vs AM5 - at the moment i'd say we're actually not far from price parity, considering what i paid for my ASUS B450-i is about similar (actually more expensive) to what i can currently get an MSI B650-i Edge Wifi board for- $350, it's just that platform upgrades overall on ITX is expensive haha.
What is your GPU? You have a good gaming monitor I assume.
5700X3D's performance will likely be close to 5800X3D. Anyway, deep down you seem to want the best gaming CPU, so $350 (for the new board) + $180 (for acceptable quality 32GB DDR5 RAM) + $60-$80 CPU price difference between 7800X3D and 5800X3D for 18% faster 1080p gaming, 12% faster 1440p gaming, and 4% faster 4K gaming if you have an RTX 4090.
If you have a top notch GPU, then sure go for it, otherwise, it does feel like a FOMO upgrade. If you do go down the AM5 upgrade path, I strongly recommend you get SK Hynix A-die or M-die memory kit for AM5.
While I get the appeal of ITX, ITX boards here are generally overpriced.
@netsurfer: again, specific use case - VR Simracing in EA WRC, have been somewhat CPU limited but just managing in DR2.0 VR, but in the most recent release even on all lowest settings the RX 6800 will struggle to get past 140-150 in Monitor mode, with drops to 50, (VR release coming next year), i'll be aiming for 180FPS at GPU side output to keep up with a (currently) 90Hz VR headset, even on monitor, it'd be nice to maintain at least 80FPS.
Very nice deal. I can't find it any cheaper.