Verso is giving away a whole lot of their ebooks about Palestine. Anthony Lowenstein just won a Walkley award for his book "The Palestine Laboratory: How Israel Exports The Technology of Occupation around The World", so you know journalists think it's the real deal.
Plenty of others there if you'd like a deeper understanding of what's happening in the middle east right now.
Downvote if you want but search for the facts while doing so
*The british Mandatory Palestine decided to split the country between the jewish and the arabs, giving more land to the arabs - the jewish accepted, arabs not and decided to attack and eliminate all jewish in 1948, Israel won fighting 5 countries.
*Look for 'Palestine' flag from 1938, it is the Israely flag.
*There were never a palistinian nation, no currency, official governemnt etc.
*Jews were in in Israel more than 3000 years ago.
*Jerusalem not mentioned even once in the holy Quran but mentioned hundred of times in the bible.
*Israel was concured multiple times in the hisotry and the jewish were expeled and managed to come back with time to their home land.
And so on, just please try to learn the facts and history.
By the way, Israel is not fighting the 'Palestinians' its fighting the Hams which butchered 1,400 civilians at their home at Oct 7th, Hamas is Isis, and Hamas is hiding behine the civilians and not letting them escape the fighting areas, Israel is the one risking soldier lifes to let civilians go to no fighting zone every day for 4-6 hrs of ceasfire.
In other words: Jews are indigenous to the land of Israel, and no matter how the Hamas supporters try to spin it their explicitly stated goal is to rid the land of Israel from its indigenous people. This is the real genocide.
Furthermore, the Palestinian leadership rejected 9 (!) peace offers of a 2 state solution since 1947, they do not want peace. There will never be peace until the Palestinian culture and values change as a society.
"There will never be peace until the Palestinian culture and values change as a society."… it all because the leaderships that run it are soooo corrupt and soooo profitable from international aid, why would they want to make peace and actually have to govern, work hard and and BUILD a civil economy?!?! That is why thier ppl need to come into Israel to work, need to mooch off Israels water, fuel which they dont even pay for. Theyre leadership has plenty of money to create their own economy but they choose to use it for terror instead of on their own people and then their own people cry out to the world that things are so bad.
Look at Hamas "political" leaders that live in Qatar.. they billionaires, live in mansions and own private jets. IF the poor Palestinian people cannot see this and uprise against this wicked entity then they are doomed for a life of absolute misery for decades to come! Its the greatest example of Stockholm syndrome you will ever see
It's not just the Hamas leadership, it's all of the Palestinian leadership. If you google Yasser Arafat you can find his wealth was estimated to be between $1B-$3B, it's good business to lead the Palestinian people
Heck, he even got the Nobel peace prize, without making peace!
@fat queenslander: Too True. Further than that.. Arafat wasn't even "Palestinian' .. He was Egyptian. Which probably calls to why deep down he had no empathy with the people he was supposedly caring for.
@Gavman: So are all of the millions of "Palestinian refugees" born in other countries, some of them grand children to a "Palestinian" and yet they inherit the refugee status somehow. Unbelievable but true.
Stop it… your making tooo much sense.
Yep, as far as recent history is concerned, the people in Gaza now have openly supported Hamas for over a decade, they openly support & protect the Hamas terrorists, they openly advocate for the extermination of all Jews and they've got the support of the vast majority of all residents for every attack on Israel they make. They voted Hamas into power and they've never removed them since that time. They've had over a decade to leave the region and move to any number of surrounding Islamic countries if they didn't like it there, or support Hamas - they haven't, instead they gathered there in bigger numbers. The moment they attacked innocent Israeli children and citizens, they signed their own death warrant and the terrorist supports in Gaza backing them.
But that all makes sense and all my vegan friends tell me Palestine is great, so I prefer believe them
Israel fighting Hammas lol.
They have killed 1 hammas member to every 100 civilians. And going back and saying who 'owns' the land does not give any right to slaughter people.
Also, happy for you to explain the illegal settlements in the westbank. No hammas there
Open the news and search for the truth, weaponse and misseles are being found in Mosques/Schools/Playgrounds and Hospitals, a lot of weapons and underground tunnels under Shifa shospital, Hamas is using the civilians as their protection.
Which news? The news that Zionists own?
I bet you still believe we needed 8 Covid vaccines
Imagine if the UN said to Australia that we had to give up half of our country to compensate some other ethnic group for an atrocity we didnt even commit. Germans committed the holocaust but the Palestinians paid the price.
Germans committed the holocaust but the Palestinians paid the price.
When did Nazi Germany put the Palestinians in concentration camps and attempt to ethnically cleanse them from the entirety of Europe ?
This is Reddit levels of going full tard.
Jerusalem isn't mentioned in the Qur'an?
59.3% of the Palestinians expressed “extreme support” for the actions of Hamas on Oct. 7, while 15.7% said they “somewhat” favored the massacre. Fewer than 13% of the Palestinians opposed the massacre.
80% of Palestinians reject both the “one-state” and “two-state” solutions, and instead demand all the territory between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea—in short, the entire State of Israel.
those aren't reasons for downvoting the deal
You 100% knew when you posted this you’d get some downvotes and genuinely upset people who actually have skin in the game on this issue. Might be a free book but was posted to cause divide while you get your internet points. Should be ashamed of yourself
Those incredibly precise statistics are shocking. God bless the survey takers who have spent the last month wandering the war zone to gather them.
59.3% of the Palestinians expressed “extreme support” for the actions of Hamas on Oct. 7, while 15.7% said they “somewhat” favored the massacre. Fewer than 13% of the Palestinians opposed the massacre.
If those stats were taken before Oct 7 , it’d shocking.
If those stats were taken during the current invasion of Gaza where the people answering are facing hell, let’s say I’m surprised 99% don’t show support.
The current invasion may eliminate hamas, but I suspect it will only seed the next group of Palestinians who will want to harm Jews.
Yeah, it’s not exactly a useful survey to ask Palestinians whilst Israel bombs refugee camps and has killed thousands of children. Obviously people are going to be angry with Israel….
One month before the Hamas massacre, 67% of the Palestinian public opposes the idea of a “two-state solution” as opposed to 32% who support it. The poll showed that 53% of the Palestinians support armed struggle against Israel. Twenty percent said they support negotiations with Israel, while another 24% expressed support for a “popular non-violent resistance.” The poll, in addition, showed that if new presidential elections were held at the time, Hamas leader would receive 58% of the votes as opposed to 37% for Abbas.
Man, I actually have no idea about most of this. Unlike most people I put my hand up and say that.
I’m simply saying, a man who relies on statistics like that without thought isn’t a man worth listening to.
Did 100% of those stats come from Israel or the White House
The findings of the poll shatter the claim made by US President and Secretary of State that Hamas is not representative of most Palestinians. Sadly, the results show, without doubt, that the Biden administration is completely clueless about the anti-Israel sentiment among a large majority of the Palestinians.
Pretty sure even before the Hamas attack Mental Yahoo would have claimed he has a mandate to invade Gaza.He's been itching to formalise his permanent despot status like Putin has. The USA is hedging it's bets cos oil.
@Protractor: When questioned about the absence of bomb shelters for Palestinians, one Hamas speaker asserted that their focus was on constructing a 500 km tunnel to defend themselves. They disclaimed responsibility for Palestinian safety, stating it's the duty of the UN and Israel, despite being the elected government.
and 100% of Palestinians in Gaza are living in an open air concentration camp with no freedom of movement, limited drinking water and under constant bombardment.
You might want to do a little reading of events pre October 7, 2023.
One of the walls is Egypt.
Israel left Gaza 20 years ago, Hamas used all the bellions of dollars got from the world to build hundreds of KM of underground tunnles, rockets, missles instead of investing it in the public. YET, although attacked from Gaza every year, Israel has been providing food, water and electriciy to Gaza free.
Gaza has a border with egypt but they dont want them, non of the arabs country want to deal with Hamas and the palestinians who advocate for terror.
Agh yes, Israel. Pillar of virtue
Is Hamas a pillar of virtue?
Hey Redditors, how are you all today
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Lol… more than half the tech you guys are buying through ozbargain are Israeli inventions. Maybe you should boycott this website? It is clearly promoting the zionist regime
Half the tech? Yeah sure.
Ozbargain become another regilious frantic place. Admin, Pls remove.
jeez it's a respected publisher giving away some books. If the world is too complicated for you and you can't handle conflict, I feel very sorry for you.
Get an education and learn the history about Palestinians being Bedouin arabs and all of them are nomadic. Let me guess you must be a Muslim.
That publisher turned left so hard they did a 360 and walked away
Political biased bs
Thanks OP. Got 'em.
Hi, can you open them? I can't open mine.
Yes. I use Calibre. Mine downloaded as epubs.
Došlo vrijeme da se Židi svete
Sve džamije u oblake lete.
Nema Sadama, Nassera i Tite
Da te opet od Židova štite.
The left-wing colonial people have to invent specific rules for Jews/Israel to justify their takes. Because if you believe land belongs to the indigenous people, it's clear Jews were the indigenous people to the land. Jews were there long before Islam was even a religion, before and during when the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, the Romans etc. controlled the area.
Jews remained the largest group in Jerusalem even well into the 19th century under the Ottomans.
If, on the other hand, you believe the land should belong to whoever is there now after wars etc. because historical claims are illogical and that's how every country in the region was formed, then it belongs to Israelis now.
So instead they have to create a special rule for Jews/Israel where Jews lost their right to the land when they were driven out via wars and conquest, but also don't have a right to it now because Jews moved back and other people who lived there after that were driven out because of wars. It makes no sense unless you apply a random cutoff that says the only thing that counts was who was there around the turn of the 20th century.
No to propaganda.
Great deal. Weekend sorted.
Too bad its only an ebook. Coulda used the toilet paper..
I know. Truth hurts.
The Bible works better and is more available accessible.
go ahead and post it as deal with the free link
What is the point of even trying to understand any nonsense over there? They sure don't care enough about peace so no reason i should. Only sympathy is for those that keep getting born into a life of poor options and suffering who somehow break the cycle and don't further perpetuate it. Meh, next deal please.
By the way Israel is about to finish the job. Please do not stay quiet, up your game and, go fly over there. I mean, walk your talk.
Nobody is going to "win ".
Terrorism will now haunt the withering planet until it's end now.
Who ever gets the land, wins.
Red Alert.
You think that's where it ends? Lucky you.History says differently.
What a loser
Not until you waste time protesting for nothing.
Anything changed? after all those protests? Aside from massive traffic?
I was expecting the worst when i opend this thread. Thankful that the masses are starting to see the ocupation for what is
Yea. very few numbers of propagandists participating as well. Massively outnumbered.
yes agreed, it all didnt start on october 7.
Awesome deal thanks! Free Palestine from the oppressing and occupying Israeli nazi!
Your account has 8 comments, 7 in the "[PC] Games for Gaza - 256 Games for US$10 @ Itch.io" thread and now 1 in this. Obviously a second account as you're too afraid to spread your jew hatred on your main account.
Long time lurker first time poster :p
I hate baby murderers (idf) not Jewish people. Ur just a prejudiced antagonist my friend.
Can you please show me where they expressed hatred for jewish people?
Letting Hamas into Israel (by "freeing Palestine") = death to Jewish people there. We have just seen an example of that on 7/10. This is what "Free Palestine" means = 7/10. So, this is where they expressed the hatred. They support genocide of Jews.
@eva123: The fact that you think that jewish people need to die to free palestine of israels control says more about you than anyone else.
Maybe they could start by not having absurd levels of control over palestines supplies, like food, water, electricity etc.
Not starting wars and killing thousands every few years.
@[Deactivated]: I do not need to think that, I just need to revisit the events of 7/10. This is how I know what Hamas, who represents the Palestinians, wants.
As for water etc. - if only "Palestinians" would invest the billions they are receiving from around the world in building a better life, they wouldn't have had to rely on Israel for supplies.
@eva123: Now visit 2008-2009, 2012, 2014, 2021 and the many cases that were too small to be considered a war.
You clearly know NOTHING about Palestine with your absurd statements about development.
I'm not going to continue to argue with an alt. Log onto your main, quit being a coward.
@[Deactivated]: I do not understand your point.
And sorry, mate, I have a reason to strongly believe that I know much more knowledge about Israel and Palestine than you do.
The facts are - Palestinians care more about killing Jews than living better lives. Gaza is a factory for hate. You have no idea how those people think. They are not your average Australians.
They dream to be martyrs, they believe it will bring them a better afterlife. Most of them are religious fanatics. It is all they care about. So, give me a break. Talk to some of them and find out for yourself.
@eva123: If you don't understand my point from the first line, you're clearly as educated as a rock on the ongoing conflicts between them.
Now like I said, get on your main, coward.
No deal, should not be on Ozb.
Thankfully the people with the biggest guns are always on the right side of history. The terrorist sympathisers can whinge all they want, but remember you only have two options at the next election, and neither one will make a difference
Which group/people are terrorists?
And can you please indicate what would make a group terrorists please.
A great example of a terrorist group would be the Australian Navy when they patrol the South China Sea
Dutton & his pseudo brown shirts have already dived deep into Mental Yahoo's AH. You don't have to sympathise with terrorism to call out the atrocities Israel (not Jews) and the extremest fundamentalists have foisted on innocent people.Even Israels own citizens are waking up to Mental Yahoos psychopathic behaviour
Even Israels own citizens are waking up to Mental Yahoos psychopathic behaviour
Israeli citizen are still mourning their 1400 dead and anxiously waiting on news of their 240 Hostages. They did not even start it, so stop with your biased rhetoric. Hamas is only to blame for this violence…period.
Haha
I love the "they didn't start it" argument in defense of Israel.
As if there isn't an entire series of "operations" in the 21st century alone where they killed thousands.
@[Deactivated]: and how many of these "operations" started because of Hamas's terrorist acts or because they won't stop shooting unguided rockets at Israeli cities?
Every single one them.
@dealhunter52: You'd know the answer to that question is not on your side if you did an ounce of research.
It's 1200
What a hot mess :| I do hope these highly contentious 'deals' stop showing up on Ozbargain.
Sure it's a 'deal', however probably not the most suited to ozbargain, knowing the heated typefest that will ensue following the post.
This is a great topic during the Ozb Anniv meetups.
It’s quite incredible that such a simple topic can be spun into such a ‘complex issue’.
Yes — unfortunately the terrorist sympathisers, and anti-Semites engage in increasingly elaborate mental gymnastics to justify their immoral objectives. Cognitive dissonance is a natural consequence of their brainwashing, I guess
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Listen to the podcast Dan Snow's History Hit. There is one about Gaza.
Turns out before Jesus it was occupied by the Egyptians.
Problem seems to be everyone is fighting over historical claims to land. Nobody tries to make the most of now (living in peace) and pass onto future generations they need to be fighting for something.
There is also a good podcast about family trees and genealogy. Turns out that your genetics would dispose of fragments therefore even if you might be family tree related to a king your genetics might not agree.