Intel Optane P1600X 118GB PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 2280 3D XPoint SSD $92.94 Delivered @ Amazon US via AU

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Stack with the 6% off GCX gift card deal for a final price of $105.36 (1 drive) or $189.65 (2 drives with Buy 2, Save 10%)

Top tier endurance, latency and random IOPS
Ideal for database, scratch disk, dedicated swap, NAS cache, ZFS SLOG and other Homelab applications
See discussion from previous deals here

SSDPEK1A118GA01

Controller: Intel
Memory: Intel 3D XPoint
DRAM Cache: Unknown
Sequential Read: 1760 MB/s
Sequential Write: 1050 MB/s
Random 4K Read: 410,000 IOPS
Random 4K Write: 243,000 IOPS
Endurance (TBW): 1292 TB
Warranty: 5 Years

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  ltzJack on 19/11/2023 - 00:22

  +1

  Bought 2 on newegg for system drive, I have to say I cannot tell any difference between this and my old PM981a :(

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    Clear on 19/11/2023 - 00:38

    -1

    I wouldn't expect there to be a difference as it's all about endurance with these ones.

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      dcep on 19/11/2023 - 02:52

      Is the endurance lower than this 2TB , https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/809609
      ?

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        ConsumerAffairs on 19/11/2023 - 10:33

        +1

        The fact you can rewrite this drive approximately 11,200 times compared to 700 times for that one you've compared it to shows the complete different use case for these drives

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          dcep on 19/11/2023 - 18:15

          @ConsumerAffairs:

          rewrite this drive approximately 11,200 times compared to 700 times

          Does math works like below,

          2000gb / 118gb ~ 17x

          17x 700 times = 11,900 times ? for the same 118gb writes over and over again

          11,900 > 11,200 ?

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        netsurfer on 19/11/2023 - 10:38

        +3

        When looking at endurance, we need to factor in the storage size. Normally, Drive Writes Per Day (DWPD) is a more objective indicator.

        	TBW	DWPD
        CORSAIR MP600 PRO NH 2TB	1400	0.369
        P1600X 118GB	1292	6.0

        Basically, you can completely fill P1600X 6 times every day for 5 years, but only fill 37% of MP600 PRO NH 2TB every day for 5 years. However, you basically pointed out an issue with these Optane SSDs in a price point where consumers could afford. A larger traditional SSD is often a more attractive solution.

        Optane SSDs help reducing the time starting poorly optimised apps or heavily random workload. While you could also see benefit when you load multiple Adobe or larger apps concurrently (vs a normal SSD), the issue is we don't keep on opening Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere and closing them often and then re-open them repeatedly.

        High end Optane does blow everything away (DC P5800X 1.6TB with 292 PBW (292,000 TBW)), but that costs more than a high end gaming PC.

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          dcep on 19/11/2023 - 18:20

          +1

          @netsurfer:

          completely fill P1600X 6 times every day for 5 years, but only fill 37% of MP600 PRO NH 2TB every day for 5 years.

          Does math works like below,

          2000gb x 37% = 740gb

          6x 118gb = 708gb

          740gb > 708gb ?

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            netsurfer on 20/11/2023 - 17:12

            @dcep: What you described is why these low end Optane didn't sell well (not that the high end one ones sell well) because most people just look at the TBW figure.

            Looking only at TBW, then all all 4TB SSD models would have 2X the endurance over 2TB. However, for the same SSD model, they generally use the same type of cells.

            Corsair MP510 1.92 TB SSD has a TBW of 3120TB. Corsair went backwards in terms of TBW. Previous gen MP510 has 2x better TBW than MP600 Pro? MP600 Pro has 2x inferior cells? Clearly, that's not the case. It has more to do with a combination of cell spare allocations, cell write cycles, "marketing" and warranty consideration.

            Anyway, DWPD is a better figure to use to measure endurance because you cannot simply cheat with a larger size.

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    glade90 on 19/11/2023 - 08:55

    +3

    Of course you cannot. An overall system's performance is determined by all of its components together, and SSDs have been fast enough for many years not to be the bottleneck. Apart from enjoying the results on synthetic tests and rare edge-cases, most users will never see difference between drives.

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  Zaddo on 19/11/2023 - 01:40

  -3

  118GB is very small…. For most home use, this is not practical. You have to have a fairly specialized requirement to benefit from a drive like this.

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    LowRange on 19/11/2023 - 02:41

    -4

    My HP laptop come with one, had all sorts of issues with it. Binned it and put a Samsung 980 and the laptop is a lot faster.

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      jpeg-jpg on 19/11/2023 - 07:31

      +3

      Are you sure this is the same drive? These Optanes are not meant to be used on regular machines, more for server caching. I have doubts that HP would actually put this thing into a laptop.

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        LowRange on 19/11/2023 - 11:57

        -2

        Well you should Google it instead of negging me just because you dont "think" it's right because what you think is wrong. It's a HP Omen 017 ck0xxx bought from a deal on Ozbargain.

        Same problems as

        https://www.reddit.com/r/HPOmen/comments/tli7kw/boot_issues_…
        https://www.reddit.com/r/HPOmenLaptop/comments/tlixkn/boot_i…
        https://www.reddit.com/r/HPOmen/comments/tpvf24/intel_optane…

        And so on. The amount of problems with this optane drive in HP laptops is staggering, constant optane errors, reinstalling Windows even adding the Intel RST drivers to the installation media Windows would only recognise the 27gb optane part of the drive. Not even HP could figure it out, and they were so problematic i believe HP has now dropped the drive completely. So i and countless others fixed it by binning the optane drive and adding a Samsung. And the machine is way faster than it ever was.

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          jpeg-jpg on 19/11/2023 - 15:27

          +1

          @LowRange: I’m pretty sure the issues in those links are for optane-accelerated SSDs. If i understand it correctly, they are describing issues with the 512gb SSD with a 32gb optane accelerator attached. That is an entirely different drive to what’s on this deal.

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      fastnet on 19/11/2023 - 08:54

      +4

      That would’ve been a Optane H10 drive 32GB Optane + 512GB QLC SSD. A lot of HP laptops came with those.

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    Tread on 19/11/2023 - 03:14

    +2

    Storage isn't the purpose of these drives. Raw IOPS and reliability is what they're for. Think servers, not workstations.

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  bjt on 19/11/2023 - 06:36

  This guy raves about them:

  https://youtu.be/tSUMBeaaiOo

  These don't discount as often anymore, they were clearing them like crazy earlier in the year.

  In theory they should run out of stock as they stop making them, which is a pity.

  So Amazon and even eBay ask a premium usually.

  I got some to stock up because I was looking for some after the last sale and the prices were ridiculous.

  I love the tech, it's designed to go well with HDDs. Can keep SSDs cooler too, when using as swap space.

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  qwijibo on 19/11/2023 - 10:35

  +2

  This is all IMHO:

  People thinking of using this for a NAS cache, dedicated swap or similar would be better off cramming as much ram into their NAS/workstation as it can fit. You can get 64GB of DDR4 for $163.49 on amazon right now - probably cheaper on black friday.

  If you're running zfs, then enabling persistent l2arc might make things faster with this on a cold boot. Remember that l2arc consumes ram though, so bump that to the max first.

  The zfs slog drive is a valid use case - the TBW endurance is far better than you'd get from a similar priced ssd, and you don't want your SLOG device to die suddenly from wearing out - you could get data corruption that way. On the other hand, SLOG only makes a performance difference for sync writes (basically NFS), so if you're not running that, you're wasting money.

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  BROKENKEYBOARD on 20/11/2023 - 00:41

  +2

  It's $92.94 now

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  Look Up on 20/11/2023 - 10:08

  +1

  Deal updated, price drop to $92.94 ($87.36 w/ GCX gift cards)