It's nearing the end of 2023, how many vaccines are you up to? Are you planning on getting more?
How Many COVID Vaccines Did You Get?
deme on 01/10/2023 - 12:00
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There are new variants all the time, do you get a new one each time?
Having been immunocompromised for the last 12 months, I'm keeping up to date based on my medical specialist's advice.
Did you get the 2023 COVID-19 vaccine dose yet?
@DashCam AKA Rolts: Wouldn't you rather get your "facts" from conspiracy theorists on the internet? ;)
Each to their own, get one, don't get one, do whatever you feel is right for you.if your specialts had a sex change, told you its good, do it also
will you ?When even Yoda is getting in on the antivax arguments you know it's been going on too long.
@mickrb30: ya know Mickey if you have heart problems and don't know and you get COVID, it will make you very sick, might even end your life
Vaccines do not hurt ego's nor Jr's.. They only protect you and people around you.
erhaps the jabs were a factor in the development of your illness/immunosuppression.
Hmm I remember Slavoz saying he had all sort of health issues, do you think he was Secretly vaccinated 100+ while pretending he was against it?
@mrdean: Ah OK. I assume you've never been sick and don't have any health issues. If you do in the future, maybe you were secretly jabbed while in the queue at maccas or something.
Most people have some disease burden these days
I'm confused. If you're sick, its absolutely because of vaccines or not?
I had a tummy ache the other day, is it because of vaccines?
What do you think explains the rise of measles amongst children in recent years?
@Ughhh: "What do you think explains the rise of measles amongst children in recent years?"
Children dumped in kindergarten (kindy) from a very early age (months?) might explain why?
@Ughhh: Have you ever heard of "contagion"?
No, not the movie, contagion as "the communication of disease from one person or organism to another by close contact - a disease spread by close contact."
@LFO: Lol yes I know how viruses can spread, you should explain that to the anti maskers here. I thought you were being silly with that simple answer
Kindy is a hotspot. Not being in a hotspot reduces likelihood of spread, though someone like mrdean might disagree with you. There are other means to Control it, unfortunately certain people believe in have viruses parties or drinking bleach instead of vaccination.
What months old baby goes to Kindy (kindergarten)? Are you OK?
@Ughhh: It’s a virus, it doesn’t “grow out of no where” [sic].
Do you even have a basic secondary education?
@SolitaryMan: Waahh reaallly? viruses don't grow like plants??? How do viruses make babies???????????? 😲
I don't. I only have Kindy education, or was it childcare, or did I get a BSc at 4months…. I dunno, so confused.
@SolitaryMan: Most Australians have a very basic secondary education unfortunately, if indeed they have any.
@Meconium: And finishing secondary education does not mean they actually even read and write with total proficiency and full comprehension.
That is why they "love" the government to tell them what to do. Always.
Children dumped in kindergarten (kindy) from a very early age (months?) might explain why?
What? If they're geniuses then why shouldn't they start school?
It's no good to hold them back.
@LFO: Babies (months old) tend to go to childcare, not kindergarten, unless they're geniuses.
Parents tend to go to work to keep a roof over children's heads.
@[Deactivated]: "Parents tend to go to work to keep a roof over children's heads."
That's when grandparents come unto light so kids stay at home.
Parents usually don't treasure their children as much as grandparents do.
There are many ways to "keep a roof over children's heads".
Rushing to the freedom and endless excitement of work is the preferred one for some.
@mrdean: No,no Professor Vacuous, it was the milk we had in childhood. I looked at the data. Everyone I know who has ever been sick had that nasty snake oil either ex bottle or breasts. You should protest immediately.
PS I appreciate that this post has flushed out the con[job]spiracy nutters.
@mrdean: One could argue that vaccines, along with other medical advancements, would account for the estimated 20 year increase in life expectancy over the past 70 years.
I’ll take my chances with science and data to live as long as possible.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/female-and-male-life-expe…
@Mr Random: So vaccines are the reason for all these geriatrics running the show, with no compos mentis test required?
@Ughhh: Yeah but he said that before the Covid vaccines came out and not the other way around.
Poor fella’s not even here anymore and he’s still catching strays.
Perhaps the jabs were a factor in the development of your illness/immunosuppression.
No, had to do with illness and treatment.
@EightImmortals: Got any peer reviewed published research to back up your conspiracy theory vids?
Thought not.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: Well it's better than the 'peer reviewed published research' you had before you took the injections. But what's the point, no matter what I post your beliefs wont permit you to even look at it let alone believe it.
@EightImmortals: Why would I believe your cooker vids over peer reviewed research? Why should anyone for that matter?
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: Are you on drugs or the obtuseness a 'side effect' of the shot?
I'm presenting you with information that contains links to peer reviewed data and you are refusing to look at it, like I said.Plus you used the word 'cooker' and that tells me all I need to know.
@EightImmortals: Ok post the peer reviewed data being "linked" so no one here has to suffer through those vids to find out. Why hide it in a video?
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: As I said, because you wont even look at them and if you do, you'll just find something 'anything' wrong with them so you can go on living in ignorance.
But JIC you're going to claim there are none out there, here is a 2 second google result and merely 2 examples.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10022421/
A systematic review of original studies reporting confirmed cardiovascular manifestations post‐mRNA COVID‐19 vaccination was performed. Following the PRISMA guidelines, electronic databases (PubMed, PMC NCBI, and Cochrane Library) were searched until January 2022. Baseline characteristics of patients and disease outcomes were extracted from relevant studies.
Results
A total of 81 articles analyzed confirmed cardiovascular complications post‐COVID‐19 mRNA vaccines in 17,636 individuals and reported 284 deaths with any mRNA vaccine. Of 17,636 cardiovascular events with any mRNA vaccine, 17,192 were observed with the BNT162b2 (Pfizer−BioNTech) vaccine, 444 events with mRNA‐1273 (Moderna). Thrombosis was frequently reported with any mRNA vaccine (n = 13,936), followed by stroke (n = 758), myocarditis (n = 511), myocardial infarction (n = 377), pulmonary embolism (n = 301), and arrhythmia (n = 254). Stratifying the results by vaccine type showed that thrombosis (80.8%) was common in the BNT162b2 cohort, while stroke (39.9%) was common with mRNA‐1273 for any dose. The time between the vaccination dosage and the first symptom onset averaged 5.6 and 4.8 days with the mRNA‐1273 vaccine and BNT162b2, respectively. The mRNA‐1273 cohort reported 56 deaths compared to the 228 with BNT162b2, while the rest were discharged or transferred to the ICU.Conclusion
Available literature includes more studies with the BNT162b2 vaccine than mRNA‐1273. Future studies must report mortality and adverse cardiovascular events by vaccine types.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36055877/
Introduction: In 2020, prior to COVID-19 vaccine rollout, the Brighton Collaboration created a priority list, endorsed by the World Health Organization, of potential adverse events relevant to COVID-19 vaccines. We adapted the Brighton Collaboration list to evaluate serious adverse events of special interest observed in mRNA COVID-19 vaccine trials.
Methods: Secondary analysis of serious adverse events reported in the placebo-controlled, phase III randomized clinical trials of Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in adults (NCT04368728 and NCT04470427), focusing analysis on Brighton Collaboration adverse events of special interest.
Results: Pfizer and Moderna mRNA COVID-19 vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 10.1 and 15.1 per 10,000 vaccinated over placebo baselines of 17.6 and 42.2 (95 % CI -0.4 to 20.6 and -3.6 to 33.8), respectively. Combined, the mRNA vaccines were associated with an excess risk of serious adverse events of special interest of 12.5 per 10,000 vaccinated (95 % CI 2.1 to 22.9); risk ratio 1.43 (95 % CI 1.07 to 1.92). The Pfizer trial exhibited a 36 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group; risk difference 18.0 per 10,000 vaccinated (95 % CI 1.2 to 34.9); risk ratio 1.36 (95 % CI 1.02 to 1.83). The Moderna trial exhibited a 6 % higher risk of serious adverse events in the vaccine group: risk difference 7.1 per 10,000 (95 % CI -23.2 to 37.4); risk ratio 1.06 (95 % CI 0.84 to 1.33). Combined, there was a 16 % higher risk of serious adverse events in mRNA vaccine recipients: risk difference 13.2 (95 % CI -3.2 to 29.6); risk ratio 1.16 (95 % CI 0.97 to 1.39).
Discussion: The excess risk of serious adverse events found in our study points to the need for formal harm-benefit analyses, particularly those that are stratified according to risk of serious COVID-19 outcomes. These analyses will require public release of participant level datasets.
@EightImmortals: Why did you have to google? You said your links to videos shared peer reviewed research. Show us, now.
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: The problem is they don't publish "vaccine damage for babbies, an intro" in peer reviewed journals, same issue you would have searching Nature for "how to arithmetic".
@EightImmortals: Senator Gerrard Rennick spoke to John Cambell on his Youtube channel a few months ago about the excess deaths in Australia - particularly looking at WA and QLD because the other states refused to release their data - not just heart conditions which this vaccine causes, but cancer and disorders of the nervous system. We are certainly seeing it in ICU and I have friends who work in neurology and cardiovascular wards who are also seeing mass increases of young, previously health patients. As for me, I ended up with a pericardial effusion from my third mandated covid vaccine. A number of my colleagues ended up with myocarditis and 2 of my colleagues both had mothers die (previously healthy) (one within a week, the other 3 days after the vaccine). Another of my colleagues ended up with burning mouth syndrome from it - something I'd never even heard of before this vaccine. This is permanent and she still has issues over 2 and a half years on from it. Many people are out there with issues, the thing is people don't openly discuss them because it is still a very controversial topic. One lady who was previously a paramedic and now has congestive heart failure (she's in her early 30s) has been looking into the excess deaths for senator Rennick in this state. When I was chatting with her, she said there were whole batches that had multiple deaths from the one batch - here in this state there were 18 people who died from one batch with one of those being a child. It's funny how ignorant people are of the things that have been going on. If you don't know someone who has a covid vaccine injury, chances are you do not openly discuss vaccine injuries with the people you know or care about. I find out about my colleagues because as health care professionals, we often sit and chat about these topics in the staff tea room however, there are many who still choose not to engage in conversation because it is a controversial topic.
@ben10: That's a very sad post ben10. Thanks for sharing. Hope you're doing ok. Do you think within the profession the tide is turning & more people are willing to speak up?
@ben10: Or you know, wait for it…. the past couple of years of uncertainty, coupled with our love for processed foods, lack of exercise, drug use, and hyper-stressed always on society, and the realisation that more and more people are getting poorer by the day is causing incredible stress on our nervous and circulatory systems, thus being the main attribute to said poorer neural and cardio outcomes.
Btw- spouse is a nurse and so is SiL and they have heard zilch about increased cardio issues at their respective hospitals due to vaccines. Plenty of very fat, unhealthy people with acute anxiety, chronic depression yes, but increased heart attacks and strokes from vaccines. Zilch, nada.
Another edit.
Rabbidly Anti-Vax- SiL (another one) and BiL got Myocarditis and Heart attack. BiL lost a lung whilst in the process of recovery.
The cause? Both got Covid, and it hit them like a freight train
Both are and still are anti-vax. Neither work atm, as BiL can barely walk 20m without being out of breath, AV SiL is Obese and BiL is a chainsmoker (even now).
I fear we'll probably end up taking care of their 5 YO boy once his parents die.
Btw- spouse is a nurse and so is SiL and they have heard zilch about increased cardio issues at their respective hospitals due to vaccines
How about you remove the "vaccines" part & answer if your spouse & Sil are witnessing increased cardio issues at their respective hospitals?
Could it be they are, but they are told it's not vaccines but underlying conditions or other reasons?
Could it be they are, but they are told it's not vaccines but underlying conditions or other reasons?
Its not, despite the confirmation bias holes people entrench themselves in.
As mentioned before its;
- Crap diet
- Little exercise
- Job security uncertainty
- Wage stagnation
- Inflation
- Environmental degradation
- Social alienation
- 24 hour news cycle
- Social media (doom scrolling)
All these things cause a maelstrom in peoples bodies and minds.
All these things cause a maelstrom in peoples bodies and minds.
Sure, agreed they are factors, but they may be not the main ones.
Thanks for replying, but you didn't answer my question. Have your spouse & SIL noticed an increase in cardiac issues where they work?
@mrdean: How on Earth can I answer that question?
Have your spouse & SIL noticed an increase in cardiac issues where they work?
yes, but due to the aforementioned issues above, but not the jab.
If you're trying to imply that the vaccines are the main cause of cardiac issues, let me present this to you this example.
Every person who has ever had a Cardiac episode has drunk water in the last 24 hours, therefore water causes heart attacks.
Correlation does not imply causation.
yes, but due to the aforementioned issues above, but not the jab.
Thank you for at least answering what I asked you.
So, they have seen an increase in cardiac issues in patients where they work.
This is a fact, as you've confirmed.
Establishing the why is another matter altogether.
You & presumably your spouse & SIL have taken the view (this is what I understand from what you've posted) that the increase is NOT from the jabs. If this is correct, then I would like to further ask you:
On what basis have you all made that determination?
@ben10: I'm sorry to hear of the other sad things you've mentioned, but Campbell's video with Rennick was atrocious. They're not actually looking at 'excess deaths', they're actually looking at an increase in deaths. And their comparison point? 2021 compared to 2020. They made no mention of lockdowns, mitigation efforts, etc. A better comparison would be 2021 compared to the pre-pandemic years.
Average % of population deaths from 2015-2019: 0.573%
Average % of population deaths in 2020: 0.554%
Average % of population deaths in 2021: 0.577% A difference of 0.004% to pre-pandemic norms.
But of course they focus on 2020 because they have an agenda and operate in bad faith.
@ben10: had the same experience with many many people we know.
to many with permanent vaccine injuries like you mention
Why is the government covering up the 25,000 EXCESS DEATHS
when pushed to find out, it falls on death ears WHY ?
ALL countries are suffering excess deaths after vax
sorry refuse to take their experiment vax
@EightImmortals: Ok, so you have linked some peer reviewed research on things that are widely known and accepted about the Covid vaccines, and are considered acceptable risk for the benefit they provide.
What was your point again? That the covid vaccines are relatively safe and should be used? Because that's what I got out of it. There's no conspiracy when it's well documented and discussed among the scientific community.
The issue is when you start going down the "This is just what is published! What about the secret problems they're not telling you about??"
@DingoBilly: Yeah totally safe, except for this bit:
"A total of 81 articles analyzed confirmed cardiovascular complications post‐COVID‐19 mRNA vaccines in 17,636 individuals and reported 284 deaths with any mRNA vaccine. Of 17,636 cardiovascular events with any mRNA vaccine, 17,192 were observed with the BNT162b2 (Pfizer−BioNTech) vaccine, 444 events with mRNA‐1273 (Moderna). Thrombosis was frequently reported with any mRNA vaccine (n = 13,936), followed by stroke (n = 758), myocarditis (n = 511), myocardial infarction (n = 377), pulmonary embolism (n = 301), and arrhythmia (n = 254). Stratifying the results by vaccine type showed that thrombosis (80.8%) was common in the BNT162b2 cohort, while stroke (39.9%) was common with mRNA‐1273 for any dose. The time between the vaccination dosage and the first symptom onset averaged 5.6 and 4.8 days with the mRNA‐1273 vaccine and BNT162b2, respectively. The mRNA‐1273 cohort reported 56 deaths compared to the 228 with BNT162b2, while the rest were discharged or transferred to the ICU."So not really safe,unless you are happy playing vaccine-roulette. As long as it's your free choice I really don't care, it was the tyrannous coercion and propaganda that needs to be held to account IMO.
@EightImmortals: Yes this is a widely known fact and well reported.
I'm curious if you looked at the covid stats and realize that at the time, the risk for complications for covid was and is significantly worse. So from a risk perspective, it's far better to get the vaccine than to get covid.
Does that play a part in your logic or is it just one-sided/ignoring that aspect? Because it's very simple to compare the two stats and see that your chances of stroke, myocardial complications are higher from covid.
If you're so keen on stats then you would get the vaccine no? Unless you're just spouting the stats to support your side of course. But I'm sure you wouldn't be arguing in bad faith!
@EightImmortals: A total of 17,636 CV events were reported with any mRNA vaccines from a total of 81 articles.
Question… what was the 17,636 as a percentage of all vaccinations administered within the cohort? I cant see where it mentions the total number of vaccinations administered over the 81 articles or what the percentage of CV events was in comparison to the total, and I don't believe this is the studies purpose. Rather to summarise the various types of CV events where reported.
Not many would argue that complications are possible but let's not overstate figures in isolation.
@oO0Dam0Oo: Those were merely 2 studies (and they were done in 2021 I think, so the landscape has expanded quite bit since then), the damage from the injections is far far greater overall, both reported and not reported. As I keep saying, as long as it's voluntary people can choose who they believe on these issues, but it wasn't, it was forced as hard as they possibly could within certain limitations. I'll trust doctors and scientists over politicians, public servants and media mouthpieces any day.
@EightImmortals: The polls are pretty consistent with this guy.
10% got no vaccines whatsoever.
Assuming 2-5% medical related, then yes, 5% of the population are like EightImmortals.
@EightImmortals
Here is a judgement on the website you are linking to
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7648494/I also assume you are joking when you say you looked on msn and fox…
Got any peer reviewed published research to back up your conspiracy theory vids?
This is worth watching, more than once. Plotkin decided not to come back for day 2….and later wrote an article warning others to be careful when testifying.
@mrdean: Na, peer reviewed research please.
I can link you to a Youtube from a doctor that says eating toilet paper is good for you. Means nothing.
I can link you to a Youtube from a doctor
The difference being Plotkin is someone who has a reference textbook called "Vaccines" names after him. He's not a mere "doctor".
Do you know who he is?
@mrdean: See? You're just another sheeple blind to the conspiracy to stop humans eating toilet paper and reach enlightened status.
See? You're just another sheeple blind to the conspiracy to stop humans eating toilet paper and reach enlightened status.
Not Nic Cage?
Hugh Laurie?
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: the peer review process isn't as rigorous as people are led to believe, only when someone's 'theory' is threatened will any effort go into the process
@Sinnerator: No system is perfect. Do you believe something like a blog or YouTube video, which is less rigorous, is better than peer review?
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: @Ughhh It doesn't matter which is generally better/has stricter standards in an overall sense when it comes down to talking about specific papers or videos. A paper either has rigorous methodology/no serious errors, or it doesn't (the same, of course, applies to any presentation referencing the results of certain papers). A paper that is methodologically sound before being peer-reviewed is as valid and meaningful as it is after it happens to go through a peer review by whatever publication.
If you personally are unable to read/understand a paper and rely purely on whether or not it passes a particular peer review, you're not much different from someone who argues by posting a video of Dr. Credential Man and appealing to his authority. The only difference is that you're asking for one more Dr. Credential Man to approve. When the paper is very complex or the area is very niche, it becomes more difficult to even find a peer who can fully and thoroughly review it (this happens often).
Here is a paper on how often major mistakes are missed in peer review. Also references other studies on the topic. TL;DR Peer review misses major errors rather often.
If you require the paper to be published in a certain well-regarded or renowned journal, then you're adding an arbitrary filter of "does the editor feel like publishing this?" which is obviously not relevant to the validity of the results.
@EightImmortals: Sometimes we are blinded to the most obvious causes that are right in front of our eyes. If we eventually realise it, it usually involves a face palm. "Of course, how could I have not seen it."
@mrdean: And your view of "most obvious cause" is a global conspiracy exists to put wifi's in your blood stream?
And your view of "most obvious cause"
One example of hundreds of thousands: https://rumble.com/v3l1ofa-angelina-had-dtap-dtap-ny-chd-bus…
@Typical16-bitEnjoyer: It doesn't make sense at all does it?
Why would you want to kill off perfectly productive bags of meat- the great Ponzi scheme of infinite growth is what underpins our society, and frankly if COVID-19 was the key to 'culling the herd', mate I'd give the maker and F and tell them they need to go back to virus making school.
they seem to match what I'm seeing going on around me in the world since this poison got released in 2020.
The confirmation bias is strong with this one… 🙄
@KangaDrew: Except I make it a point to ask lots of other people if they are seeing the same things. Hey, at least I formulate my own conclusions rather than having them spoon-fed to me by the TV people.
@EightImmortals: And it just so happens that "lots of other people" agree with you? You literally just made my point.
@KangaDrew: Of course it did, that's your confirmation bias right there. :)
But if you can't handle personal observation as a form of evidence there's plenty of other data out there. Start with the all cause mortality figures which hardly blipped in 2020 but are going crazy since the injection case out. Australia is running at around 16% last I looked. Then look at the rise of a multitude of other health problems that have 'doctors baffled'. or don't, at this point I really don't care and merely post to let people know there's a lot more going on that what they are being told.
Plus I love a good pile-on! :)
that's your confirmation bias right there
Considering this response makes absolutely no sense, it's no surprise that echo chambers are you thing.
@KangaDrew: I am just glad we live in a democracy where the majority can steer society by outvoting guys like this.
e.g. Amongst all the haters of Dan Andrews, he served 3 terms, 1 after covid, and that one being a landslide victory. The silent majority trump loud vocal conspiracy theorists. Love democracy.
Dan Andrews… landslide victory. The silent majority…
Offtopic, but Dan's party only got something like 37% of the primary vote in Victoria - hardly a voting majority or landslide. It was more like a unpopularity contest, and he was the least unpopular!
@stokesy77: and therefore the winner despite huge media and other efforts to get rid of him.
The "give Dan the boot" thing where idiots posted photos of shoes and boots on their doorsteps to social media is close to the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.
@Brianqpr: The same people who complain all day on social media spending hours on it then complain why they have no money instead of working.
How is it possible when you work 3 days and cannot afford to pay the bills?
@stokesy77: This is true.
Considering votes also go to 20 other minor parties.
In the end, Labour/Dan won 56 Seats, vs 18 for Liberal.
That's nearly 3 times the amount. Somebody hates you, less :S
Or 56 out of a total 87 seats, 64% of the total seat count.
Reference:
https://www.vec.vic.gov.au/results/state-election-results/20…
. Hey, at least I formulate my own conclusions rather than having them spoon-fed to me
Would you do the same thing next time you feel extremely ill and see blood dripping from your ears, have some kind of contract issue where you're owed $$$ or being sued, have some kind of water issue in the house?
You clearly have a phd on everything.Except I make it a point to ask lots of other people if they are seeing the same things. Hey, at least I formulate my own conclusions rather than having them spoon-fed to me by the TV people.
Yep, you seem to use the YouTube people to spoon-feed you.
For new varients, I'll get a new shot. As a bonus my 5G reception has improved.