HP Dual Pro 1TB PCIe Gen 3 NVMe M.2 2280 Internal SSD Kit $99 Delivered + Surcharge @ Shopping Express

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  Homr on 20/08/2023 - 13:23

  +1

  Interesting, will this work on like an aging Optiplex 9020 4th gen intel?

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    elusive on 20/08/2023 - 13:39

    +4

    It looks full height? In which case it won't fit in a SFF unless you want to run with the cover off.

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    bio on 20/08/2023 - 13:40

    +4

    Doesn't look like low profile. Also, are you willing to invest a further $99 in a 4th gen Optiplex? You can buy a newer gen Optiplex for about the same.

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      MikeKulls on 20/08/2023 - 22:44

      But then you've spent $99 and don't have the 1TB SSD. I use a 4th gen Intel machine and run games, virtual machines on win11 with no issue

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        bio on 21/08/2023 - 10:36

        But then you've spent $99 and don't have the 1TB SSD.

        Sure, but you now have two computers (the new one probably having an NVMe), and you can sell the old one.

        I have a 4th gen (i7-4790) as well, which works fine, but I would probably buy this one for 8 bucks so that I can at least reuse the NVMe in the future.

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    bdl on 20/08/2023 - 13:47

    +3

    This does - I use one in my 9020 https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B086MM5PQN

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  tonyjzx on 20/08/2023 - 13:24

  +1

  i would expect that HP bundled a 'proper' SSD w/ dram since its most likely going to be used as a booter?

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  MasterScythe on 20/08/2023 - 13:43

  +2

  "Your motherboard and BIOS must support PCIe bifurcation for a dual drive configuration to work correctly"

  In that case, the $20-30 ebay options are a better deal. No "smarts" in a port adaptor.

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    Look Up on 20/08/2023 - 14:13

    +2

    If "smarts" means a bottom of the barrel $5 JMicron or ASMedia controller trying to "control" 2x PCIe drives being used simultaneously, passthrough cards are always the better option

    The quad drive ASUS Hyper M.2 card is passthrough and not controller based for a reason

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      Clear on 20/08/2023 - 15:51

      What controller does this card use?

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        netsurfer on 20/08/2023 - 15:59

        +4

        The card most likely doesn't have any controller. It basically wires a x8 slot into a x4 x4 configuration to 2 x m.2/NVMe slots.

        If you have a motherboard that does x8 x8 (or essentially x8 x4 x4), then this might be worth considering. However, if you have cheaper AMD boards which offers only 1 x16 slot (and a chipset based x4 slot), then the x8 x8 setup is not ideal because you essentially used your only x16 slot as a x8. For that setup, x4 x4 x4 x4 is better.

        Confused? I'll try to simply it:

        • If your motherboard has 3 slots which look like x16 slots, then this card is worth considering.
        • If your motherboard has 2 slots only, then this is not ideal.
        • If your CPU is 5600G or 5700G, then you most likely don't want this, especially if you only have a motherboard with 1 or 2 x16 slot because AMD won't let you split the first x8 into x4 x4 with those APUs.
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          Clear on 20/08/2023 - 16:02

          @netsurfer: Yeah I suspected there would be no controller, hence why I asked. When on a budget the Jeyi PCIe card works well. I used it temporarily in a custom built server for a large SQL database until the fancy new Dell server rocked up.

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            netsurfer on 20/08/2023 - 16:05

            @Clear: Does that one have 2 m.2 slots or 4 m.2 slots?

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              Clear on 20/08/2023 - 16:05

              @netsurfer: 4.

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                netsurfer on 20/08/2023 - 16:08

                @Clear: I bought an el cheapo version.. now I am tempted to get that one.

                This one is tempting too since it includes a 1TB SSD and looking at the card, it certainly doesn't look dodgy compared to AliExpress ones.

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      netsurfer on 20/08/2023 - 15:52

      +2

      Those cheap ones don't have any controller, they are also passthrough. The main advantages of this HP one are:

      • It includes a 1TB SSD (which is probably an OEM one).
      • It supports x8 based bifurcation (so x4 x4). That setup is better for higher end boards.

      The cheap ones… well:

      • They are cheap and some do support PCIe gen 4 x4.
      • Some support 4 NVMe SSDs (so x4 x4 x4 x4).
      • Cheap quality, often need to DIY (can have some loose screws or even not including sufficient screws).
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  Aarent on 20/08/2023 - 13:45

  hmmm, 400tbw, not great for caching or massive writes. probably best for boot or running vm's?

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  gakko on 20/08/2023 - 13:55

  -2

  I like this over nvme and other similar form factors just because I think circuit board cards look awesome.

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    DiscountForThee on 20/08/2023 - 14:01

    +2

    I dunno I like the m.2 SSDs, they look so damn efficient. Especially those 30mm long ones. Freaking tiny, but so much storage

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      netsurfer on 20/08/2023 - 16:14

      This is mainly to increase the number of m.2 SSDs on your PC from 2 to 4. However, a lot of newer motherboard now has 3 or 4 m.2 slots (so this one could bump up to 5 or 6, assuming the motherboard supports the correct type of bifurcation).

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  Misha Bakunin on 20/08/2023 - 14:02

  +1

  This is cool but I'm pretty sure my mini itx case has no spare spots for it :(

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  docbj on 20/08/2023 - 14:03

  +2

  Br careful with shopping express.
  Their warranty is very poor. I have been waiting for replacement nvme for 3 months now after confirmation a replacement will be issued.

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    tonyjzx on 20/08/2023 - 14:26

    yeah they are dodgy

    if you buy one and it doesnt work in your… DELL… then good luck getting an RMA

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    bdl on 20/08/2023 - 14:42

    You could probably go direct to HPE for this

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  Durranimo on 20/08/2023 - 17:17

  Just wondering if I can use this as a NVMe boot drive on a HP Z820

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    Sean8802 on 20/08/2023 - 17:26

    As per netsurfers comment just above

    netsurfer 1 hour 25 min ago
    +3
    The card most likely doesn't have any controller. It basically wires a x8 slot into a x4 x4 configuration to 2 x m.2/NVMe slots.

    If you have a motherboard that does x8 x8 (or essentially x8 x4 x4), then this might be worth considering. However, if you have cheaper AMD boards which offers only 1 x16 slot (and a chipset based x4 slot), then the x8 x8 setup is not ideal because you essentially used your only x16 slot as a x8. For that setup, x4 x4 x4 x4 is better.

    Confused? I'll try to simply it:

    If your motherboard has 3 slots which look like x16 slots, then this card is worth considering.
    If your motherboard has 2 slots only, then this is not ideal.
    If your CPU is 5600G or 5700G, then you most likely don't want this, especially if you only have a motherboard with 1 or 2 x16 slot because AMD won't let you split the first x8 into x4 x4 with those APUs.

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    netsurfer on 22/08/2023 - 00:49

    Best to check with HP as this card is listed for:

    HP Z2, Z4, Z6, and Z8 G4

    Otherwise, it might be better to get one of those cheaper cards from AliExpress.

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  manity on 20/08/2023 - 18:50

  Wonder is there something similar to this but connects to a single SATA or nvme slot and breaks out to hold a couple of data or nvme devices?

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  crider on 20/08/2023 - 22:45

  +1

  Looks like it's the old Turbo Z for the HP Workstations, suitable only for HP.

  https://vjarnot.github.io/posts/2023-02-27-hp-zturbog2-moddi…

  I'm not sure if these cards are the same model.

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  id on 04/10/2023 - 16:30

  Totally misleading.. I thought this was the pcie card with 1tb nvme!!!! All that came was the NVME 1tb