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Crucial 4TB SSD's: MX500 SATA $305.10, P3 Gen3 NVMe $287.10, P3 Plus Gen4 NVMe $310.50 + Surcharge + Delivery @ Shopping Express

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Crucial 4TB SSD's: MX500 SATA $305.10, P3 Gen3 NVMe $287.10, P3 Plus Gen4 NVMe $310.50 + Surcharge + Delivery @ Shopping Express
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Look Up on 07/06/2023 - 18:08 shoppingexpress.com.au (448 clicks)

MX500 and P3 Plus all time low, P3 near all time low
P3 Plus PS5 compatible
Auto 10% discount applied at checkout
1% surcharge for Card & PayPal payments
Deal ends tonight

MX500 - CT4000MX500SSD1
P3 - CT4000P3SSD8
P3 Plus - CT4000P3PSSD8

MX500 - CT4000MX500SSD1

Controller: SMI SM2258 or SM2259
Memory: Micron TLC or QLC
DRAM Cache: DDR3
Sequential Read: 560 MB/s
Sequential Write: 510 MB/s
Random Read: 95,000 IOPS
Random Write: 90,000 IOPS
Endurance (TBW): 1000 TB
Warranty: 5 Years

P3 - CT4000P3SSD8

Controller: Phison E21T
Memory: Micron 176L QLC
DRAM Cache: None
Sequential Read: 3500 MB/s
Sequential Write: 3000 MB/s
Random Read: 650,000 IOPS
Random Write: 700,000 IOPS
Endurance (TBW): 800 TB
Warranty: 5 Years

P3 Plus - CT4000P3PSSD8

Controller: Phison E21T
Memory: Micron 176L QLC
DRAM Cache: None
Sequential Read: 4800 MB/s
Sequential Write: 4100 MB/s
Random Read: 650,000 IOPS
Random Write: 900,000 IOPS
Endurance (TBW): 800 TB
Warranty: 5 Years

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  • Vorsprungdurchtech on 07/06/2023 - 18:14

    Slowly getting better

  • Switchblade88 on 07/06/2023 - 18:22
    +6

    NVMe cheaper than SATA? What a world we live in.

    • Starcraftmazter on 07/06/2023 - 23:28
      +1

      For SATA you are paying a premium for that interface. If you take it apart, you will see it's exactly the same as the NVMe drive physically.

  • corgi-runner on 07/06/2023 - 18:27
    +1

    The P3 and P3 Plus have been that price on Amazon for a couple months now. Better to purchase there for free delivery.

    • ggbhai on 07/06/2023 - 19:23

      Can u share link please? I can't find this price on Amazon from what I can see.

      • corgi-runner on 07/06/2023 - 19:31
        +1

        Just searched it and they have jacked the price. I would hold out for a few weeks as the price will come back down.

  • caitsith01 on 07/06/2023 - 18:30

    Can anyone comment on the real world performance difference with NVMe vs SATA here? I have a couple of 1TB NVMes so tempting to just chuck in a SATA for extra storage, but would the speed difference be noticeable for work, gaming, etc? I no longer have time to follow all of this stuff in detail…

    • dazzles on 07/06/2023 - 18:45
      +2

      In my personal experience I don't notice any difference. With that being said the listed NVME drives here don't have a DRAM cache which means when copying large amounts of data it may end up being slower than a SATA SSD with a dram cache.

      If you're just using a browser, playing games, ms office. etc. it's no big deal.

      Also to add, I've heard that DRAM drives can be slightly more responsive and quicker boot times too - shouldn't be too noticeable unless comparing side by side.

    • netsurfer on 07/06/2023 - 19:50
      +2

      For your usage, unless you timed everything, you won't really notice the difference in general usage. I have 2 NVMe and 2 SATA SSDs on a PC, all have Windows 10 or Windows 11 installed. I've switched between those 4, can't really tell the difference in boot up and most apps.

      One question mark on MX500 is whether it is TLC or QLC. While there is 1 article mentioned QLC on 2TB and 4TB are possible, one of our OZBers don't believe the sample size is big enough and feels TLC is still the norm. At discounted price, it is hard to tell whether Crucial has done a switch.

      • Skramit on 07/06/2023 - 19:53

        It doesn’t matter. At $300 for 4TB QLC is fine. Will be perfectly fine as a storage or games drive and you won’t ever know any difference.

        • netsurfer on 07/06/2023 - 19:55
          +2

          Generally usage, yes. However, if you do write a lot of data to it, be prepared to see QLC SSD's health % drops faster than TLC (assuming the SSD makers don't hide the SMART stats which allow apps to calculate the health properly).

          My experience with QLC SSDs are not so positive. While reads seem fine, writes can be inconsistent at times.

          • Skramit on 07/06/2023 - 21:20
            +1

            @netsurfer: 99% of users are not writing big amounts of data to these drives. You need to write hundreds of GB a week to make QLC an issue over 10 years. It’s not an issue for most people.

            The mx500 4TB is rated to 1000TBW. That’s writing 1923Gb a week for 10 years.

            It’s a non event… even for ultra enthusiasts.

            • netsurfer on 07/06/2023 - 22:36

              @Skramit: My Macbook Pro 512GB SSD is at 650 TBW and I haven't been writing much to it. It's just with Apple Silicon, since the fan hardly spins, you don't hear the fan. Didn't realise the Macbook Pro had been using virtual memory a lot.

              The issue is not TBW for me, it is QLC, if you do write a fair amount, even at times, loses the quality of life improvement advantage. If someone gets a 4TB SSD, it is possible the initial write might be 2TB or more. Once the SLC cache goes, that SSD feels like an HDD in terms of write speed. That's the main issue. Also, even if SLC cache is used, that data needs to be re-written in QLC form (so files are written twice in a way). I have a Kingston QLC and an Intel QLC SSDs (though much smaller size). Problem is, the write speed could be 30MB/s on those at times and that can be annoying.

              Furthermore, knowing majority of people got MX500 TLC version. Surely people won't be that happy if they ended up getting a QLC version. Also, how does QLC get that amount of TBW?

              • Skramit on 07/06/2023 - 22:44

                @netsurfer: Most people won’t be buying this 4TB data drive for their C:. Not with NVMe 1Tb drives at current prices for 5x the speeds.

                Write speed for initial copies not an issue either. I bought a 4TB drive and consolited my steam library to it over an hour or so. No big deal a once off slow speeds copy. After that it’s happy days.

                I think you’re scraping for reasons to hate on these large drives being QLC but it’s genuinely not an issue for most peoples use case.

                People doing video editing professionally (people needing large fast drives) shouldn’t be buying these low end drives and will be going with NVMe anyway not an MX500.

                • netsurfer on 07/06/2023 - 23:20
                  +1

                  @Skramit: My original point was one OZBer got upset when I previously mentioned MX500 2TB and 4TB has NAND lottery because he felt there was insufficient proof that's the case in AUS. I don't believe component swap is fine. Price, honestly, if the MX500 is QLC, I don't think the price is that great.

                  Also, your TBW calculation of 10 years did not factor in write foldback for QLC (which can have an additional 50% effect in the worst case). It also depends on how honest the SSD makers are in SMART data reporting. Whether they include true full write amount or not. For example, if the SLC cache is 500GB, then the total write of the first 500GB is 500GB (SLC) + 500GB (QLC) which is 1TB. A lot of SSD maker will only give you 500GB write in SMART stats.

                  It's easy to let wanting 4TB to let us relax our requirements, 2 x 2TB TLC SSDs cost $236 in total. So, we are not exactly getting QLC discount completely for MX500 (if it is now QLC). Not saying this is a bad deal, but trying to point out there is a decent chance MX500 4TB could be TLC (and actually hoping people will end up getting TLC version at this price). The QLC 4TB all time low at OZB is $229 from memory, at least that's under $236. I do get SATA SSDs do cost more.

  • caitsith01 on 07/06/2023 - 18:33

    Also MX500 showing as $339 for me?
    Edit: just saw about the automatic 10% off

  • GreenRomeo on 07/06/2023 - 19:36

    Just wish we could know for sure if MX500 is TLC. I’m waiting for the Samsung 870 Evo then.

  • BaarOzGain on 07/06/2023 - 19:46

    MX500 2TB is also cheapest I have seen @ $158 with code

  • Skramit on 07/06/2023 - 19:52
    +1

    Thank you OP… I mean our new AI overlord.

  • Bal on 07/06/2023 - 21:09

    Was interested in the MX500 SATA but the shipping just kills it. Will wait to see what the prime day sales bring from Amazon.

  • oldyellah on 07/06/2023 - 21:13

    4tb be good purchase for my laptop and future laptos? pretty much just a lightroom junkie and would love more storage then my 1tb sd card in my laptop (already have a usb c nvme adapter for the windows clone)

  • Polaremail on 08/06/2023 - 00:07
    +1

    P3 plus has a RRP of 10998.9 . That's 98% saving. What a bargain. 😂😂

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