So Losing Weight Is Now Considered Fat Phobic?

maxyzee on 18/05/2023 - 21:47

There’s been a trend lately of people that have gone through weight loss being labelled as fat phobic?

I remember a couple of years ago when Adele lost weight she was criticised which I think is hilarious. But now it seems like anyone who posts a before or shares anything weight loss related like diet tips or exercise advice as fat phobic. Even if that person is overweight themselves and are now actively trying to lose weight they are fat phobic. It means anyone that desires to be not overweight is somehow fat phobic.

I guess I’ve been fat phobic since I was 16 when I started working out and making sure I had a good amount of protein in my diet. But seriously, I’m somebody that treats people with respect regardless of what they look like or what colour they are, what orientation they are etc.

Am I getting old or something if I think that this trend is next level crazy?

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Comments

  • jjjaar on 18/05/2023 - 21:58
    +169

    I’ve noticed no such trend, but I don’t spend my time looking for it either.

    • HangryCakeStore on 19/05/2023 - 12:48
      -3

      This forum screams like another pointless USA woke thing,
      I thought every sheep realised to stop caring about this us crap after all that BLM riots?

      • kiriakoz on 19/05/2023 - 21:57
        +31

        I have noticed the trend of US culture coming to us a lot quicker, including calling things woke that we don't like because we lack the vocabulary to be more descriptive.

    • ihbh on 19/05/2023 - 13:07
      +8

      There was a Bluey fat "shaming" incident recently. (got kids)

      • WhyAmICommenting on 19/05/2023 - 14:17
        +5

        Can you fat shame yourself? Can you really?

      • Ravensbane on 21/05/2023 - 06:33
        +2

        I liked the episode as I could relate completely. Then of course people, maybe ashamed of being overweight?, complained and it got edited.

        • morse on 21/05/2023 - 07:14
          +2

          The complaints were from people who try to prevent and treat people with eating and body image disorders (anorexia, body dysmorphic disorder etc).

      • cashews on 19/05/2023 - 20:08
        +8

        Sounds like you are victim to the clown world also.

        • SBOB on 19/05/2023 - 20:11
          +2

          Victim/outspoken example…..same same.

        • siresteelhell on 19/05/2023 - 21:03

          lol im no victim

    • CalmLemons on 20/05/2023 - 13:53

      No such fat phobic trend.

      But there is a trend of metabolic non alcoholic fatty liver disease, that is, liver damage due to people eating foods that are too high in fat plus eating so much that they are pretty much diabetic.

    • The Value on 20/05/2023 - 23:44

      but I don’t spend my time looking for it either

      BINGO!

  • trustnoone on 18/05/2023 - 22:00
    +66

    Some points I think worth considering:

    • is it an actual trend? More and more I'm seeing media companies claim some trend like this only for it to be a few random people in the world. Just so that these companies can get clicks
    • Are you taking the word of a few randoms as being too important? So many times I see super out there points, only for it to be some random person on twitter. If you think of how many people are on the app, chances are some random will be contrary to what makes sense.
    • Is what you're hearing makes sense? So many times I see articles about how "x claims you're fatphoibc for losing weight" only to read the article and instead the guy is saying something more along the lines of "attacking someone who is mentally stuck in coming to terms with their weight may not be helpful".
    • Sometimes trends come and go, there could be a bigger call out now? But then in a year or two time it may change?
    • maxyzee on 18/05/2023 - 22:06

      I don’t doubt that a lot of articles are rage baiting to get the click but what I don’t get is can anyone actually genuinely in good faith believe such logic?

      • [Deactivated] on 18/05/2023 - 22:08
        +1

        But there is no logic to it

        • resisting the urge on 19/05/2023 - 11:10

          But what about the effects on AI logic, can the bots not be Influenced, too?

          Large Language Models are by definition, fed on a high-sugar diet of human ramblings.

          And we accepted this as the Way of The Future years ago, (or so the bots will say)

      • Morkai on 19/05/2023 - 07:57

        Who does believe it? As has been said, majority of it is for headlines and clicks, there doesn't have to actually be anyone believes it. The media outlets make something up to create an issue where there wasn't one before, and they hope it will sway people and get more shares and clicks.

        That's the business model.

        • Sleeqb7 on 19/05/2023 - 10:15

          I'd suggest a few fringe people, usually on Twitter, would believe it.

          It would be an incredibly small number of people, but y'know.

      • PiratePete1911 on 19/05/2023 - 12:56
        +7

        There are almost 8 billion people on Earth and you only need 1 extremely stupid tweet to get yourself to the front page of a major news website and have it presented as a trend.

        It wouldn't surprise me if people have fake accounts for the sole purpose of tweeting extremely stupid things just so they can make an article on a slow day.

      • leelemon on 19/05/2023 - 14:01

        There are probably more people that believe in the world being flat than this.
        People believe in dumb things. It's not a new thing. It's just more noticeable now that it's on the internet, and not just your school or workplace.
        Corporations then take advantage of that tiny fraction of the population to distract you from the things that actually matter.

    • ThithLord on 19/05/2023 - 08:38
      +9

      is it an actual trend? More and more I'm seeing media companies claim some trend like this only for it to be a few random people in the world. Just so that these companies can get clicks
      Are you taking the word of a few randoms as being too important? So many times I see super out there points, only for it to be some random person on twitter. If you think of how many people are on the app, chances are some random will be contrary to what makes sense.

      Not to go all reddit-y, but /thread.

      It's like all the whingers crying about lefty cancel culture. I always ask: Have you experienced anything relating to cancel culture in person? Have you even seen it? Is it in the room with us now?

      Stop taking the media shoved down our throats as gospel.

      • scotty on 19/05/2023 - 09:51
        +21

        Not to go all reddit-y…

        On the other hand, some of the subreddit I visited, i.e. r/loseit or r/progresspics — when you read the comments, those are all overwhelmingly positive with the changes that people decide to take.

        I guess OP just needs to hangout with better crowd. At OzBargain we don't shame weight losing (but we do shame paying RRP).

        • ThithLord on 19/05/2023 - 14:49

          My comment RE: Reddit was purely about using the /thread tag, Scotty!

      • Randolph Duke on 19/05/2023 - 13:23
        +5

        Have you experienced anything relating to cancel culture in person? Have you even seen it? Is it in the room with us now?

        I've seen plenty of alt-right supporters threatening violence against people they don't like, banning books etc.

        kermitdrinkingtea.jpg

        • ThithLord on 19/05/2023 - 13:44
          +3

          They'll keep our kids safe … with force!

    • kiriakoz on 19/05/2023 - 21:58
      +1

      This. The only thing most media outlets spread is fake outrage. They stopped informing long ago.

  • rumblytangara on 18/05/2023 - 22:00
    +34

    I think you are spending too much time in weird social media 'communities' or apps.

    Because I haven't come across any of what you are talking about at all.

    • Brick Tamland on 20/05/2023 - 14:34
      +1

      Exactly, it's the social media echo chamber. Controversial voices seem to get maximum air time

  • bobbified on 18/05/2023 - 22:00
    +23

    It's all Tiktok… giving idiots a voice.

    Me… I really don't give a shit what idiots say. Can't please everyone! Best to just ignore them.

  • Wiadro on 18/05/2023 - 22:01
    -1

    being fat is best

    • BuyoTheCat on 18/05/2023 - 22:10
      +2

      and easy

    • Ugly on 19/05/2023 - 06:59

      But expensive

      • HangryCakeStore on 19/05/2023 - 12:50
        +15

        For tax payers

        • Surtr on 19/05/2023 - 13:50
          +3

          Restored balance to your neg, you're not wrong

    • ThithLord on 19/05/2023 - 08:39
      +9

      It's a heavy burden to bear

      • Kangal on 19/05/2023 - 13:20
        +2

        Bears aren't fat, they're big boned

        • Munki on 19/05/2023 - 16:01

          Especially the dancing bears in India. They're typically malnourished.

          • SBOB on 19/05/2023 - 18:08

            @Munki:

            Especially the dancing bears

            Indeed. Huge bear heads, much skinnier bodies. Chicks seem to dig them though….

  • Hugh G Rection on 18/05/2023 - 22:13
    +2

    its america, and the world follows.

    imagine a world so great that you have to create your own problems. lol

    • SBOB on 18/05/2023 - 22:48
      +35

      You started your point so strong yet finished so poorly.
      B-

      (And edited after the fact …lack of conviction, downgraded to a C)

        • SBOB on 18/05/2023 - 22:53
          +2

          Only 6% of people have the confidence and conviction to stand behind their beliefs and statements, no matter how ridiculed or outlandish.
          Clearly you didn't make it.

        • afah0447 on 19/05/2023 - 08:08

          60% of the time, it works every time!

        • Surtr on 19/05/2023 - 13:52
          +2

          This is ten percent luck
          Twenty percent skill
          Fifteen percent concentrated power of will
          Five percent pleasure
          Fifty percent pain
          And a hundred percent reason to remember the name

          • SBOB on 19/05/2023 - 13:56
            +3

            @Surtr: True critical thinking is 93% perspiration, 6% electricity, 4% evaporation, and 2% butterscotch ripple.

      • 7ekn00 on 19/05/2023 - 07:19
        -3

        All the data was present, just people were in the "media" bubble:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlV5i6iOlK0

    • maxyzee on 18/05/2023 - 22:50
      +1

      I certainly agree with the broad points you made and yes I’ve seen the Social Dilemma and I recognise my own use of Social Media but

      Only about 7% of the population are "free thinkers" and able to logic their way out of these powerful confirmation bias bubbles :/

      Where does that come from?

      • SBOB on 18/05/2023 - 22:51
        -1

        If you don't know, clearly you're not in the 7%… that's just how it works.

        • maxyzee on 18/05/2023 - 22:54

          🤣

        • maxyzee on 18/05/2023 - 22:59
          -1

          Just taking a stab here but maybe it’s a count people that reformed out of their particular bubbles? E.g a flat earther finally recognising the reality of what they’re believing, or a reformed Scientologist etc?

      • 7ekn00 on 18/05/2023 - 22:53
        -5

        Personality typing, you need to be an ITSP or ESTP to logic your way out of a powerful confirmation bias bubble :/

        Fringe INTP and ENTP personalities will be able to logic their way out of weak bubbles too …

        • jorf on 19/05/2023 - 08:00
          +1

          As an ISTP, I think your logic is dumb.

          • SBOB on 19/05/2023 - 09:59
            +2

            @jorf: you're clearly just not free thinking enough ;)

            • jorf on 19/05/2023 - 10:56
              +2

              @SBOB: I don't get my facts from Youtube and Tiktok sorry.

  • coffeeinmyveins on 18/05/2023 - 22:36
    +19

    There’s been a trend lately of people that have gone through weight loss being labelled as fat phobic

    100 percent the people who do this are obese and don't want others to lose weight because it shows that they could lose it too but are just lazy people

  • Clear on 18/05/2023 - 22:41
    +5

    Rapid weight loss is easy if you don't mind a lot of pain. Perhaps I should do a TikTok and call everyone Skinny Phobic for being against it.

    • AdosHouse on 19/05/2023 - 01:07
      +2

      Super easy, just ask for tips from your local junkie. LOL.

    • morse on 19/05/2023 - 04:13
      +1

      You could, and tag https://butterfly.org.au/ in it, that would be a great look.

      Thinspo is so 90s

      • brendanm on 19/05/2023 - 06:43
        +6

        Being anorexic isn't healthy, being obese isn't healthy. We don't need people promoting either.

        • morse on 19/05/2023 - 07:12
          +1

          Absolutely. Noting that just being fat or thin isn’t promoting either.

          But posting videos or how to be thin or fat can be unhealthy. I dare say there’s still more content promoting fast unhealthy weight loss than there is fast unhealthy fat gain (that’s a pretty niche and disturbing sub culture).

          • brendanm on 19/05/2023 - 08:28

            @morse: Hopefully anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together, can figure out that losing weight quickly is not a good idea.

            I'm not talking about the speed of loss/gain. I'm talking about the "healthy at any size", promotion of obese people as brave/beautiful/healthy/etc, obese models, and basically the acceptance of obesity as a way of life these days. 63% of adults are considered overweight to obese. 1.3% are underweight. What's the bigger issue?

            • morse on 19/05/2023 - 10:20
              +2

              @brendanm: I’ve seen some pretty smart people do intense rapid weight loss repeatedly over the years. I’m guess because of the pressure they feel around needing to look a certain way. Not all of these people are even over weight to began with.

              To me healthy at any size is about promoting healthy behaviours for at all sizes, not promoting people to be a particular size. Shifting the focus away from BMI to health behaviours. An active overweight person actually has less health risks than a sedentary ‘healthy weight’ person. The idea is to focus on eating less processed foods/sugar, exercising, not smoking, reducing sitting time, getting good sleep and limiting alcohol irrespective of weight. Amongst the small number of people that are underweight, there are people with anorexia nervosa, an absolutely devastating disorder, so I’d say both are separate but related issues. There’s also the people who might be in any weight group and struggle with disordered eating and mental health problems relating to body image which is another sad and costly issue for society.

              • dtc on 19/05/2023 - 12:22
                +1

                @morse: Exactly - 'extra' weight is a risk factor, but its not actually a particularly big risk factor until you are obese (vs overweight). And the risk factor of being overweight is significantly less than many of the other risk factors you have identified. Sure being thinner and having no risk factors is better than being overweight and having no other risk factors, but being overweight and having no other risk factors is better than being thin and having multiple risk factors

                Being overweight, of itself, tells us very little about a person's health risk. Being thin also tells us very little.

                Being obese is a different issue.

                • brendanm on 19/05/2023 - 15:32
                  +2

                  @dtc:

                  Being obese is a different issue.

                  1/4 of kids are overweight or obese. 8+% of kids are obese.

                  If you pick 3 random adults, you will get one that's normal, ones that's overweight, and one that's obese. 1/3 of the entire adult population is obese. This is over 6 million people
                  That is an insane number.

                  Kids are being taught to be lazy and sedentary, I just went through a few school zones, the number of kids riding electric scooters is crazy.

              • trapper on 19/05/2023 - 14:47
                +5

                @morse:

                To me healthy at any size is about promoting healthy behaviours for at all sizes, not promoting people to be a particular size.

                Healthy at any size is a lie though.

                An obese person is not a healthy person no matter how 'active' they are.

                • morse on 19/05/2023 - 16:34
                  +1

                  @trapper: But an obese person who exercises and doesn’t smoke etc has less health risks than an obese person who doesn’t exercise smokes etc. My understanding of “health at any size” is to promote healthy behaviours for all - to focus less on the weight and more on the behaviours, which may well also promote weight loss for obese people.

                  • rumblytangara on 19/05/2023 - 21:56

                    @morse: I think that this is almost a straw man argument. If someone is obese, they are very unlikely to be exercising in the first place. Simply being overweight makes exercise so much harder. Similarly, the other bugbear of health, drinking is highly correlated with obesity.

                    Sure, you can point to exceptions (one of my friends is probably falls into the bucket of obese, and she happens to be a powerlifter) but generally… if someone is obese, they are less likely to exercise, they're more likely to drink, and probably also positive correlations to other risks like sleep apnea. Thing is, it's not much use talking about the exceptions. It's about the average.

                    • morse on 20/05/2023 - 03:30
                      +1

                      @rumblytangara: Of course. I think the point is that it’s an approach to try and encourage these positive behaviours in all people including obese people, because of a great deal of people the scales and advice haven't been working. Health at any size is a relatively new approach, so to be seen if it’s more helpful. But I can’t be a bad thing to focus on health behaviours, including drinking, +- weighing and waist measurement. I’d say it’s probably different for different individuals, some people are going to respond better to objective measures on the scales. Some people will respond better to just focusing on lifestyle changes. What doesn’t help in either scenario is public shaming, which can also be harmful to those at risk of eating disorders.

                  • trapper on 19/05/2023 - 23:39

                    @morse:

                    My understanding of “health at any size” is to promote healthy behaviours for all - to focus less on the weight and more on the behaviours

                    The 'healthy behavior' you should be promoting for an obese person is to eat less. Anything else is a lie.

                    • morse on 20/05/2023 - 03:49

                      @trapper: It’s also about eating the right foods. You can do low calorie bad diet and it’s still not going to be good for your health.

                      As a young person travelling, I would just eat sweets, burgers, noodles etc. But it wasn’t actually many calories as I had very little money and just ate here and there and was pretty active. I was very thin, to the point people would comment on it (BMI around 18). I remember some Korean girls at a hostel asking me what my secret for being thin was, asked what foods I ate. I was like, hmm I had a burger today and I carry a bag of pasta and carrots on my backpack to cook at night. I would get sick with colds and gastro etc all the time. Drank a fair bit of alcohol too, though couldn’t afford much.

                      So when it comes to obese people, yep they probably would lose weight if they just ate low calories, whether they are healthy or not, but it might not be good thing if that’s the only thing they do. Exercise is super important and helps with mood too.

                      But absolutely, eating the right about of calories for their situation is part of health at any size, amoungst other health behaviours

                • Milk tea on 20/05/2023 - 03:21

                  @trapper: But everyone says lizzo is healthy since she dances?

        • RefusdClassification on 19/05/2023 - 13:10

          Obesity is a substance abuse disorder. There is even a drug for weight loss which combines naltrexone (an opioid antagonist) with bupropionx (Zyban) used for smoking cessation.

          The solution is simply eating less. All the so called miraculous new anti-obesity drugs like Ozempic do, is make people lose interest in food (they don't miraculously burn or volatilize fat). East less food than your body needs = weight loss. It's that simple.

          • dtc on 19/05/2023 - 15:55

            @RefusdClassification: yes, the solution to alcoholism is to drink less. The solution being a drug addict is to use drugs less. The solution to being unfit is to exercise more. What a revelation!

          • morse on 19/05/2023 - 17:09

            @RefusdClassification: Absolutely, but easier said that done as per the evidence. It’s good that these drugs are available for the people they work for, but if they still don’t live a healthy lifestyle there are still health risks.

    • idonotknowwhy on 19/05/2023 - 11:39

      You mean like cutting off a limb right?

      • Clear on 19/05/2023 - 12:18
        +1

        Not a limb. Take away the duodenum and a bit of the stomach. Ketosis will be the initial weight loss.

  • jv on 18/05/2023 - 23:01
    +3

    There’s been a trend lately of people that have gone through weight loss being labelled as fat phobic?

    Doesn't that make fat people thin phobic?

    • maxyzee on 18/05/2023 - 23:07

      Not wanting to give this stupid logic any credit here but I believe the thinking here is you usually actively become thin by dieting and exercising whereas when you get fat it’s passive therefore it wasn’t your choice to be fat.

      It’s the act of losing weight or keeping the weight off is what’s fat phobic.

      • jv on 18/05/2023 - 23:29
        +5

        whereas when you get fat it’s passive therefore it wasn’t your choice to be fat.

        Overeating junk food is not passive.

        It takes a lot of effort.

  • maxyzee on 18/05/2023 - 23:01
    +2

    Also me posting this topic just changed the embedded ads for Intermittent Fasting 😂

  • [Deactivated] on 19/05/2023 - 00:01
    -1

    I guess I’ve been fat phobic since I was 16 when I started working out and making sure I had a good amount of protein in my diet

    Is your preoccupation with this topic due to the fact that since you were overweight when you were younger & because you were able to lose weight, you think overweight people, in general, should be able to do the same otherwise they just choose to be fat?

  • hasher22 on 19/05/2023 - 01:58
    -2

    Stay off Instagram reels and tiktok and facebook woke news feed. I've noticed these woke posts and videos are just from Instagram reels and TikTok but go out in the real world, ask 1000 people if losing weight is fat phobic and you'll prob get less than 1% saying yes. And those yes people prob brainwashed into thinking that cause some idiot on tiktok said so.

    Unless you go to like a woke convention centre…..

    Keep in mind these are the minority

    • trapper on 19/05/2023 - 15:55

      Drawing a parallel between being fat and being gay is in itself pretty homophobic…

      • morse on 20/05/2023 - 04:02
        +1

        Drawing a parallel between two types of stigma and bullying was the intent, but I can see your point.

        My point is that people should focus on concern for their own health, if someone else is obese that’s up to them.

        All kinds of ‘phobic’ in my view are are people feeling they need to comment negatively on someone else’s situation which doesn’t effect them, usually to make themselves feel better by bringing someone else down.

        • maxyzee on 20/05/2023 - 07:32

          Well that’s the exact point that this post is trying to get at. If someone loses weight and wants to share it (or show it off) why would anyone feel the need to criticise that?

          • morse on 20/05/2023 - 07:42

            @maxyzee: I’m not sure if that is happening (often), but if it’s is of course it’s not nice. What I do know is happening through this thread and what I was referring to is fat shaming. Fat shaming isn’t nice, weight loss shaming isn’t nice, shaming in general isn’t nice. If this post is anything to go by there is far more negativity directed at overweight and obese people than at people on a fitness kick.

  • lostgoat on 19/05/2023 - 06:25
    +7

    Any pizza deals going ?

    • baldur on 20/05/2023 - 09:42

      Haha.

    • Shootinputin89 on 21/05/2023 - 00:03

      I afterpay pizza hut. No fat phobia here. Tbh, I'd rather be fat than some wank that stares at themselves in the mirror at the gym all day.

  • onetwothreefour on 19/05/2023 - 07:34
    +11

    When you watch a video on YouTube the algorithm will recommend you another video on a similar topic. You keep watching them then that's all YouTube will recommend to you and suddenly it feels like everyone in the world is talking about this topic when in reality if you just turn your device off and go speak to some real people you'll find it's not really something that people are talking about.

    • djsweet on 19/05/2023 - 09:57

      Unfortunately this is something people are really talking about. Maybe not your generation though. I don't dabble in social media and I've heard all about it. Its lunacy.

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