[Refurb, eBay Plus] HP Z2 G4 SFF Workstation XEON E-2136 6C 32GB ECC RAM 512GB SSD Win 11 $393.86 Delivered @ MetroCom eBay

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Hi all another week for workstations.
A nice compact workstation with a few expansion slots, great for work, study or home sever.

Specs
Processor
Intel® Xeon® E-2136 Processor (6 Cores 12 Threads, 3.3GHz, Turbo 4.5GHz), equivalent to i7-8th gen, support Win 11
Operating system
Windows 11 Pro, 64-bit, English
GPU
NVIDIA NVS 310, 2 x DP
RAM
32GB, DDR4 (2 x 16GB, ECC)
Storage
512GB SSD (2.5 inch)
Expansion slots
2 x 3.5 inch, 2 x m.2 for NVME, 1 x m.2 for WiFi card.
2 x PCIeX4, 1 x PCIeX16

Some other workstations (Some can do 1080P games easily)
HP Z240 Tower i7-7700K 32GB RAM 512GB SSD GTX 1070 Win 10 Workstation Gaming PC $440 Delivered(Targeted Code SNSMD4…)
DELL PRECISION 3630 WORKSTATION i7 8700 32GB 512GB SSD GTX 1080 Win 11 Gaming PC $539 Delivered(Targeted Code SNSMD4…)
DELL PRECISION 5820 Tower Workstation XEON W-2104 32GB ECC 512GB SSD WIN 11 Pro $403.26 Delivered
HP Z640 Workstation Xeon E5-1650 v3 16GB RAM 240GB SSD Quadro K420 Win 10 $249 Delivered(Code HGMAY)
DELL PRECISION 7920 WORKSTATION 2 x XEON Silver 4114 20 Cores 64GB 2TB SSD P4000 $1899 Delivered

And mobile workstation
Lenovo Thinkpad P53 15.6 i7-9850H 32GB RAM 1TB SSD Quadro T1000 Mobile workstation $999 Delivered(Code HGMAY)
HP ZBOOK 17 G6 i7-9850H 32GB RAM 1.5TB SSD RTX 4000 17'' 4G Mobile workstation $1399 Delivered(Code HGMAY)

Will have a batch of laptops next week.

Have a good weekend.
Cheers,
Jun

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  mattis on 05/05/2023 - 12:01

  Thanks OP, decent spec for an office workstation there, Z machines also reasonable for some CAD work.

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  Zitane on 05/05/2023 - 12:19

  DELL PRECISION 3630 WORKSTATION i7 8700 32GB 512GB SSD GTX 1080 Win 11 Gaming PC $539 Delivered
  is showing up as $563.06 not $539

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  tmr3 on 05/05/2023 - 12:27

  +14

  Note for potential homelabbers/home server buyers - if you're planning on using this as a Plex server, the Xeon E-2136 does not have an integrated GPU, which means no QuickSync support for hardware transcoding unless you add in a dedicated GPU that has a modern media engine (something the NVS 310 definitely lacks being based on the Fermi 2.0 architecture from 2010) or swap the CPU to something with an iGPU (e.g. Xeon E-2146G).

  This mostly applies to people intending on storing and serving 4K UHD Blurays to clients that can't Direct Play the source file for whatever reason.

  The CPU in this is broadly similar to a Core i7-8700, just with slightly different clocks/TDP and without an iGPU.

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    Vorsprungdurchtech on 05/05/2023 - 13:13

    +3

    Doing the lords work

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    60beetle60 on 14/05/2023 - 07:53

    How much worse off would general performance be if you swapped out the Xeon chip for an i3-8100 or i3-9100?
    I was thinking you could flip the xeon to more than cover the cost of an i3 and you'd get decent plex performance and lower power consumption compared to adding in a different graphics card, 1050ti or equivalent.
    Very tempted by this option for a nas homelab as I'm thinking 2x 3.5" slots would do for now with some decent sized drives. Ecc ram a bonus and I figure could end up similar cost to the i5-8500 refurb systems going recently of you sold the xeon chip.

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      tmr3 on 14/05/2023 - 15:45

      How much worse off would general performance be if you swapped out the Xeon chip for an i3-8100 or i3-9100?

      Again, this Xeon is basically just an i7-8700 under the hood, sans-iGPU. If the four threads of an i3-8100/9100 is enough CPU resources to do what you need, then it's certainly an option if you want the iGPU for Plex transcoding. It may be a little bit more difficult to offload the Xeon than a comparable Core i7 though as the Xeon requires a C242 or C246 chipset motherboard to work.

      Another thing worth noting if you're interested in ECC, is that while an 8th or 9th Gen Core i3 will support ECC memory, it will only support up to 64GB of it. The Xeons can handle up to 128GB after a BIOS update. If you're dead set on the specific combination of ECC support and a recent Intel iGPU, I think platforms like this HP or the Dell Precision 3630 for example are fairly attractive options.

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        60beetle60 on 14/05/2023 - 16:21

        Thanks for the extra info.

        I think the 4core would be enough for what I've got planned. Truenas nas to host important files with a few extra services running, radarr/sonarr, plex, home assistant and an undertimed as yet photo hosting service immich/photoprism.

        Ecc ram is currently a nice to have on my list if it can be had at a reasonable price. I'm tossing up between something like this or an elitedesk 800 g4 with an i5-8500 doing the same thing without ecc ram. Ecc a complimentary pairing to zfs in truenas but not a definite requirement. I don't think I'll need more than 64gb, was hoping not to have to upgrade above the included 32gb given cost of ecc ram.

        I'm thinking as I'm not interested in multiple vms for a windows/Linux desktops or anything too intensive should get away with an i3 and 32gb ram. So if I can flip the xeon this would be a nice little system I think

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          tmr3 on 14/05/2023 - 16:40

          @60beetle60: Nice, I think that all makes a reasonable amount of sense to me.

          If I could come up with a fairly inexpensive way of attaching six hard drives to my ThinkCenter M720q Tiny, I'd be going that way with my setup. No ECC, but I think I can deal with that in a home environment (and my current NAS system doesn't have ECC anyway).

          If I were starting from scratch then I think a system like this would be a pretty decent option.

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            60beetle60 on 14/05/2023 - 17:58

            @tmr3: For relatively inexpensive hdd expansion look into m2 to sata expansion cards. I've seen a few tiny/micro systems use these to attach up to 6x external drives, just need to have an additional external power supply to run them. I think the hard bit is finding a nice way to mount/house the additional drives. One thing I've gleaned is they can run hot so the ones with heatsinks would be preferred for running that many drives.

            I was thinking this path initially but decided for me best to go a sff form factor which can fit two 3.5 drives as that's all the drives I want initially. Then if needed for future expansion add a pcie/m2 expansion card and a 3x5.25" to 5x3.5" backplane cage to hold additional drives.

            A few tiny examples I've seen are:

            https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/zct0j6/jankiest_ho…

            https://www.dell.com/community/Optiplex-Desktops/Optiplex-mi…

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              tmr3 on 14/05/2023 - 18:29

              @60beetle60: Yeah it's the mounting side of things that is the struggle for me, not so much the attaching.

              An M.2 based solution isn't ideal for the M720q but it has a PCIe x8 slot accessible with a riser so I could go for an external SAS card to facilitate connecting the drives.

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  Proliferation on 05/05/2023 - 12:42

  Really want one (the C246 chipset these have supports the 8th ?and 9th? Gen i3 processors, which in turn support the ECC ram) as this would make an awesome NAS, but only 2x 3.5” is a bummer

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    tor on 05/05/2023 - 14:24

    If this is the correct motherboard for these, then it looks like it's got 4 sata ports at least, so you can mode the case to fit four. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004294287028.html

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    tmr3 on 05/05/2023 - 14:33

    +3

    I've been grappling with this recently - unfortuantely there doesn't appear to be a do-it-all solution to a DIY NAS that's available, affordable, performant, efficient/quiet, and feature-rich.

    Intel Coffee Lake is a great mix of most of the above, but the consumer chips lack ECC support on anything higher than a Core i3. You can get ECC support on these Xeons, but you need to find a -G model to get an iGPU, and swapping CPUs isn't a cheap affair.

    AMD Ryzen CPUs support ECC, but don't have any media engines as there's no iGPU, and they tend to have quite high idle power draw (especially the chiplet-based CPUs). Ryzen APUs only support ECC if you can find a PRO model, and even then the media engines aren't well supported by Plex.

    I ended up settling for non-ECC at least for the server/virtualisation side and went with a Lenovo ThinkCentre Tiny M720q with a Core i7-8700T as it was seemingly the right balance of cost, performance, size and features for my home server… except for the fact that I need to come up with some solution to handle my six 8TB NAS drives, and I don't really want to keep my big old ATX i7-5775C PC running just as a NAS.

    The rabbit hole never ends…

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  hoey888 on 09/05/2023 - 15:09

  do you provide tax invoice for purchases?