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Yamaha NS-SW300 250W 10" Subwoofer $399 (RRP $999) Delivered @ Todds Hi Fi Brisbane

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Yamaha NS-SW300 250W 10" Subwoofer $399 (RRP $999) Delivered @ Todds Hi Fi Brisbane
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LKaomichael on 07/04/2023 - 15:30 todds.com.au (1999 clicks)
Last edited 07/04/2023 - 18:13 by 1 other user

My first post, please go easy on me.

My old faithful B&W subwoofer died so I was in the market to look for a replacement subwoofer. My budget was under $500. Then I came across this. Although not an European or American brand, it has very good reviews.

I looked at past OzB deals and I think the best so far was $439 on Amazon prime day sale. Currently Amazon is selling for $599. The next closest one is about $549. So at $399 including shipping is a very good deal IMHO. It probably can't compete with some of the bigger subwoofer from SVS. But to my ears, it was way better than the B&W that died on me. At this price, I don't think you can find anything else even close to its performance.

I use a Yamaha V6A AV receiver.

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  • jv on 07/04/2023 - 15:35
    -1

    Yamaha NS-SW300

    Can this used in VIC ?

    • z00m on 07/04/2023 - 15:49
      +12

      New South South Wales?

      • jv on 07/04/2023 - 16:13
        +6

        Yes, the southern part, near the border

  • Kaomichael on 07/04/2023 - 15:38

    Lol, sure can!

  • greencomet on 07/04/2023 - 15:41

    Specs for those interested.

    NS-SW300

    Driver: 25 cm (10”) cone
    Output Power: 250 W
    Frequency Response: 20–160 Hz
    Advanced YST: Yes
    High-Efficiency Power Amplifier: Yes
    Twisted Flare Port: Yes
    BASS (Bass Action Selector System): Yes
    Auto Standby: Yes
    Standby Power Consumption: 0.3 W
    System Connector: Yes
    Dimensions (W x H x D) 350 x 366 x 420 mm; 13-3/4” x 14-3/8” x 16-1/2”
    Weight: 18 kg; 39.7 lbs.

    • TimR31 on 07/04/2023 - 16:11
      +1

      Seems to have a good range of inputs:
      Stereo speaker pass-through for stuff that has no sub-out
      L and R RCA inputs (not sure if that works with the speaker outputs, you'd hope so)
      Single RCA "LFE" input

    • umexcuseme on 07/04/2023 - 20:14

      Typically I advise against buying any type of speaker that has a wattage spec that doesn't say whether it's RMS or peak/dynamic. If they don't say it, it's probably PMPO, and 250W PMPO for a subwoofer is weak, even for $400.

  • megawatt101 on 07/04/2023 - 15:41

    Great price esp. delivered. Weighs a ton. I have the 12" version of this which I paid over $1k 22yrs ago. Haven't wanted to change, as nothing I've heard beats it. And I've listened to many incl. the big names. Can not recommend enough.

    • HitlersDad on 07/04/2023 - 16:19
      +9

      Is this serious? Surely that won't compare to a modern svs sub.

      • DeToxin on 07/04/2023 - 16:36
        +1

        I'm pretty sure they were only meant to have a single "2" there.
        Also, I agree with you, I doubt it's a good as an SVS unit, but with SVS you're looking at at least double the price.
        Edit: double the price of the one in this post.

  • pork chop on 07/04/2023 - 15:50
    +1

    Does anyone know if this can be wired to the Yamaha sound bar?

    • Jazzydazzy on 07/04/2023 - 17:27
      +2

      Depends on your sound bar. My Yamaha sound bar has a subwoofer out plug and I use this subwoofer.

    • vinnycol on 07/04/2023 - 19:02

      My cheapy yamaha sb has sub out…

  • Kaomichael on 07/04/2023 - 15:55
    +1

    If it has line out or LFE out from the sound bar it can.

    • pork chop on 07/04/2023 - 16:00

      Just checked my Yamaha yas-108 and it has a sub out input.

      • Kanjus on 07/04/2023 - 16:09

        Sub in output?

        • pork chop on 07/04/2023 - 16:18
          +2

          RCA port says 'Subwoofer Out' so I guess this is the output to subwoofer.

  • Fabbbrrr on 07/04/2023 - 15:56

    I bought this one a few years ago for under 400 too and it's pretty awesome, even compared to smaller svs models. Not the best looking one but definitely a performer.

  • burns13 on 07/04/2023 - 16:13
    +4

    Times like these I wished I wasn't in an apartment

    • ufoninja on 07/04/2023 - 16:17
      -1

      I have subwoofers in my apartment. just don't be a jerk and you'll be fine.

      • Fappo on 07/04/2023 - 17:20
        +12

        I don't think 'not being a jerk' and 'using a subwoofer in an apartment' are simultaneously possible in many apartments.

        • CocaKoala on 07/04/2023 - 17:46
          +1

          It's entirely possible if you just keep the volumes reasonable.

          • Fappo on 07/04/2023 - 17:56
            +8

            @CocaKoala: Depends on the apartment. Bass travels straight through walls, ceilings and floors and if the apartment doesn't have great sound insulation a sub will have the potential to piss neighbours off at any volume that's high enough to make it actually worth using a sub.

            • G-rig on 07/04/2023 - 18:05
              +2

              @Fappo: Don't need it turned right up and boomy, it just is meant to complete the bottom end frequencies.

              I've got the hs8s sub, but that's designed to run with the Yamaha studio monitors. The one with the soundbar is great for movies.. both gooe even at low volumes.

              PS. The crusty old bloke next door smokes, so I'm not worried about the speaker noise.

      • Void on 07/04/2023 - 20:05

        Same. The walls are pretty thick in mine. No complaints after about a month.

        Main things are to make sure to use room gain (place near corners) to get the most perceived volume for the least actual volume, and to use it at normal volumes.

        • tukanglistrik on 07/04/2023 - 23:33
          +2

          No complaints doesn't mean the neighbours are not annoyed. More likely than not they don't know where the vibration comes from, or they just think it's a hassle to complain.

          • G-rig on 08/04/2023 - 01:32
            +1

            @tukanglistrik: Wouldn't worry about it if no complaints.
            There is no legislation around second hand smoke wofting in from neighbours smoking on balconies so not much can be done about it so stuff them.

            Sometimes when i think the music is loud you can go outside and can't even hear it.. just don't have it too loud after 10pm.

            • Void on 08/04/2023 - 11:12

              @G-rig: Exactly. I can barely hear anything outside of my room in the same apartment. I'd imagine it's lot quieter through the thicker walls that separate apartments.

              The more problematic thing is playing electric guitar because the amp has to be louder than the strings otherwise it just sounds wrong.

              • G-rig on 08/04/2023 - 11:13

                @Void: The walls could be thicker here.
                These weird older couple have attached a screen door to the fire door on their apartment, there is no breeze anyway and just makes their clunking around louder - so not worried about mr Subby :P

                yeah or headphones ;)

  • kenjai on 07/04/2023 - 16:22

    Cheers, Brought straight away. Good find.

    I am in the market for a sub and already have 8 Yamaha speakers, and 2 Yamaha amplifiers (well, a Yamaha motorbike too).

    This frequency is 20hz at the low point and also 250W, so that's way more than enough Bass we will ever need.

  • pgj on 07/04/2023 - 16:26

    Hi,
    Some advice needed.
    I have an accusound reference 6.6xd speaker system. My sub is make a popping sound so think on its way out.

    Would this be a good replacement and can I have the sub different make to the front and rear speakers. No idea with all the specs, think current sub is 180W and 35-150Hz. Plugs in with a single cable, no idea what.
    Any help appreciated.

    • Kaomichael on 07/04/2023 - 16:38

      I use Castle Knight 4 for front, Castle Lincoln S1 for rear, aad center speaker, no problem mixing with the Yamaha. The sunwoofer only does the lower end which you feel rather than hear the sound, I don't think matching brand matter as much with subwoofers.

      • pgj on 07/04/2023 - 17:07

        My current sub is plugged in with a single line in connection, would I be able to use the same cable to connect this sub?

        • Kaomichael on 07/04/2023 - 17:14

          If it works with your current sub I don't see why it can't connect to this sub.

    • Whatisthatvelvet on 07/04/2023 - 17:33

      I also have Accusound 8.6xd system that is about 9 years old.
      The sub died a couple months ago and I grabbed a second hand down firing Yamaha sub from marketplace (can't remember model of top of head). Works very well so you won't have an issue using this

      • pgj on 07/04/2023 - 18:02

        Would this be better than the accusound ref 6.6xd sub?

        • Whatisthatvelvet on 07/04/2023 - 18:06

          Yeah definitely. I found an immediate improvement by using the Yammy I got over the Accusound I had.

        • Whatisthatvelvet on 07/04/2023 - 18:08

          Looks like one left.

  • Bignudge on 07/04/2023 - 16:27
    +1

    Why are home theatre subwoofers piss weak nowadays? I'm currently using my dad's Yamaha subwoofer that's rated at 1000W RMS (YST-SW1500) and want to buy something similar for another room but all I see are ones that can be lifted with 1 hand.

    • Mechz on 07/04/2023 - 16:53
      +1

      Go look at SVS then.

      • Bignudge on 07/04/2023 - 17:11

        That's pretty expensive for that sort of power. I guess smaller sized setups are the norm now then :/

        • Mechz on 07/04/2023 - 17:21
          +3

          Good is never cheap. But there's always DIY.

          • krisspy on 07/04/2023 - 22:54
            +1

            @Mechz: Just ignore rms and look at pmpo figures. You'll get more watts per dollar.

  • Ron280 on 07/04/2023 - 16:31
    +2

    They also have Yamaha NS-P160 3 Ch Speaker Pack for $199 and Yamaha NS-F160 Floor Standing Speakers for $649. Together with this, would that be a combination for a decent setup?

    • Void on 08/04/2023 - 11:16

      I'd suggest getting used mid-tier speakers from more audio-geared brands like Wharfedale Diamonds or Mordaunt-Short Avianos. There's also B&W, Mission, Dali, that are all also pretty good.

      I've tried Yamaha speakers (admittedly older ones that might not be as good as the 160s) and I just found them to sound dull, like there was nothing I could point out and say was good about them.

    • Kaomichael on 09/04/2023 - 09:03

      Personally I think the RRP for these speakers are a bit overpriced. At $1799 you should be able to get some decent mid range European American brands.

      But at $679, (and if you live in BNE, there is a click and collect special which they give you the P160 pack for free!) plus the SW050 subwoofer for $199, at $878 for a full 5.1 package, I think its a good value for money. Sure it won't be great for music listening, but for a entry level home theatre set up, its more than adequate. Sure beats all sound bars out there.

  • Larsson on 07/04/2023 - 16:34

    Do these have crossover that will distribute the rest of the frequencies to the bookshelf speakers? Or do I need a receiver with sub output?

    • Kaomichael on 07/04/2023 - 16:42
      +1

      You can connect it with speaker wires, no need of sub output from receiver. It probably has most inputs available that I've seen.

      Here is the detailed review of this sub:

      https://www.toptenreviews.com/home-subwoofers-yamaha-review

      • Larsson on 07/04/2023 - 17:35

        Eh :/ my set up is XLR.

        Also honestly I still can’t tell if these work as the recover and divert sub vs rest frequency from the output. (I could read the review but honestly felt lazy, and probs saves me from spending money that i likely shouldn’t spend)

        • G-rig on 07/04/2023 - 18:27

          Look at the Hs8s sub XLR inputs and outputs ( I got the 8" hs80m monitors).

          All the new digital subs are like 1500 (or like $3k for the kef, but would be pretty expensive and only benefit an amp setup with room correction and all that).

          • Larsson on 07/04/2023 - 19:33

            @G-rig: Yeah got 5” JBL 305s so I am leaving towards a studio set up. That’s what I had in mind but they are also expensive AF lol. But yeah that’s (JBL version) is exactly what I am after.

  • evanjd on 07/04/2023 - 16:39
    +1

    Great find op! Grabbed one, cheers!

  • jaimex2 on 07/04/2023 - 16:43
    +1

    Aren't Japanese audio products usually better than European or American?

    • Mechz on 07/04/2023 - 16:56
      +4

      Japanese AVRs are best, European speakers are best, American subs are best.

      That's my take anyway.

      • jaimex2 on 08/04/2023 - 13:51

        Good to know, Cheers

  • dishlex on 07/04/2023 - 16:48

    Can I use this with Audioengine S5 speakers without an amplifier?

    • Morien on 07/04/2023 - 18:02

      From my way-too-quick-to-be-trusted google, the Audioengine have a sub out. If that's the case: yes.

  • Jarvis Walker on 07/04/2023 - 16:53

    They also have the Yamaha RX-V6A on sale for $1039. Seems to be the cheapest I can find.

    https://www.todds.com.au/collections/hot-offers/products/yam…

    It's got solid reviews for an AV receiver at that price range. Pretty sure Yamaha make top quality amps.

    Anyone got one of these at home??

    • Kaomichael on 07/04/2023 - 17:07
      +3

      Yup. Thats the one I have, although I got mine for $969 during black friday sale so i didn't post it. But yes, the performance is great. I would highly recommend it.

      • Jarvis Walker on 07/04/2023 - 18:09

        Awesome. I think I'll grab one of these and that sub above plus some new speakers

  • Pub Envelope on 07/04/2023 - 16:58

    I have a set of Bose Companion II's Series 2 as my desktop PC set up (going strong over the last few years). I need some bass, would this be overkill? Any recommendations if so?

    • sallan75 on 07/04/2023 - 17:37

      Lol Bose, of course they need more bass.

  • dottjt on 07/04/2023 - 17:05

    Would this be fine for mixing?

    • GandalfTheCheap on 07/04/2023 - 17:25
      +2

      Yes, but you have to turn it up and put the mixing bowl directly on top and pick something with a fast beat.

      For whipping cream, I recommend Prince.

    • Morien on 07/04/2023 - 18:08
      +1

      No. You want accurate devices for mixing. <$500 won't get you an accurate anything in AV.

      Might be "good enough", but you'll need to put in a lot of effort to acoustically treat your room.

  • excite on 07/04/2023 - 17:24

    Would this be a good upgrade from Yamaha NS-SW210 sub?

    • Jazzydazzy on 07/04/2023 - 17:33
      +2

      Yes. The sw210 has 6.5 inch woofer, this one has 10. The larger footprint should help as well.

      • easternculture on 07/04/2023 - 17:42
        +2

        I have 2 x YST SW030 connected via daisy chain and they make some nice doof doof together.

        Planning to daisy chain another 2 (when i find some cheapies on marketplace) so i have one on each corner of the room paired with 9 speakers lol

  • DEvok on 07/04/2023 - 17:24

    Although not an European or American brand,

    What's wrong with Japanese brands op? Asia makes great speakers especially China

  • bowtiehoon on 07/04/2023 - 17:38

    This is a solid price, I tried to get Amazon to price match $549 when I needed one earlier this year and they wouldn’t budge

    • Morien on 07/04/2023 - 18:04

      Amazon don't price match individually. If their web crawler picks up a lower price they may change the listing to match, but individual reps can't adjust prices for you.

      • bowtiehoon on 08/04/2023 - 02:26

        No they can if the difference isn’t too great

  • LaTerrible on 07/04/2023 - 17:57
    +3

    Brilliant SW for the price, you're right OP, nothing compares when on sale. The SVS love is a bit overblown around here, too.

  • zorrt on 07/04/2023 - 17:59

    Good enough for near field right up the back of a couch?

  • homersyd on 07/04/2023 - 18:07

    how would this compare to my 16" dream hifi sub i got from ebay more than a decade ago?? (pretty sure it was from OZB)…

  • ALLEN29 on 07/04/2023 - 18:09

    Can someone please let me know if this is compatible with Bose Soundbar 600? Thanks in advance.

  • albert7777 on 07/04/2023 - 18:12

    OOS

  • datruepker on 07/04/2023 - 18:12

    Thoughts on this vs the Voll s8?

    https://voll.com.au/product/s8/

  • Windows7forever on 07/04/2023 - 18:16
    +2

    Excellent first post. Welcome , OP.

  • nfenech on 07/04/2023 - 18:48

    Quick question, how are you all controlling the sub on/off.
    I currently use the trigger out cable, but my amp only has one of them.

    Trying to work out if i can use a splitter and run one to each amp.
    Also, it's a mono cable, but could i use a stereo cable? Or anyone got a link to a mono one? I need it to be 15m

    • Morien on 07/04/2023 - 18:51

      I haven't looked into this particular model, but I'd be surprised if this didn't have a standby mode.

      I just have the RCA cable going in (I have a few SVS subs), and it turns on as soon as the receiver sends it signal.

      I wouldn't expect a splitter to work with a 12v trigger. I'd imagine it would divide the voltage and make it so it isn't enough to trigger anything. Regarding mono vs stereo, sometimes stereo will work, but you'd have to try it for yourself.

      • nfenech on 07/04/2023 - 19:02

        Thanks, i might just have to try and see.

        I already have one of these subs (Amazing), connected via RCA and the trigger.
        The trigger just auto turns the sub on/off with the receiver.

        I'll try a splitter and stereo cable and see how it goes, otherwise I might have to use the auto standby feature for this second one sub.

        If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

        • nfenech on 07/04/2023 - 19:57

          Ok, so for those interested:

          i hobbled together a few things to test (Using only the one sub i have)

          My set-up:
          Receiver: Yamaha rx-v683 (7.2) Has one 12v trigger out connector (For turning on/off a sub)
          Current Sub: Yamaha NS-SW300 (Connected via RCA and 12v trigger)

          I used a 3.5mm stereo splitter, and the mono 3.5mm trigger cable - Sub turns on.
          Then I used a 3.5mm stereo splitter, with a 3.5mm stereo cable - Sub turns on.

          I only have the one sub, but when this second ones comes, i should be able to use the splitter and a stereo cable to auto power it on/off.

          • Morien on 07/04/2023 - 21:02

            @nfenech: I don't think the splitter will work. Happy to be wrong, but you are splitting a voltage pulse, and I'd expect each 'portion' to be too weak to initiate power.

            That said, if you already have everything on hand, give it a go.

            • nfenech on 07/04/2023 - 21:19

              @Morien: I'll let you know once the sub gets here, but given the low voltage, i'm hoping it wont be an issue.

  • ALLEN29 on 07/04/2023 - 18:58
    -2

    Can someone please let me know if this would be compatible with Bose soundbar 600? Thanks!

  • Ahil on 07/04/2023 - 19:26

    Always get subwoofers in pairs!

    • Pixie13 on 07/04/2023 - 19:49
      +1

      Stupid question, but why is that? I have this https://www.selby.com.au/brands/polk/polk-hts-10-10-inch-sub… and it rattles my walls, but does give me that punch in my chest with music and bass. I know it has a lot to do with placement of the speakers/sub (the sub is in a corner of the room on a 45 degree angle). Do you think a second sub that is identical would help? Or should it be paired with an 8"? Thank you in advance

      • Morien on 07/04/2023 - 21:00
        +2

        Dual subs are good because you can tune them to give the entire room a flatter frequency response. That said, it can be difficult to tune them in, so many people use a MiniDSP to help achieve that.

        If you go a dual sub route, it's better to go two identical units as it will be easier to put them together.

        • Pixie13 on 07/04/2023 - 21:22

          Thank you for the reply, I appreciate that. I'll take your advice

        • G-rig on 08/04/2023 - 01:38

          Sub placement and tuning is apparently fairly difficult, but I don't want it somewhere that you'll trip over it and wouldn't worry about it too much.

          Subwoofers aren't directional so wouldn't worry about it too much (mine is down firing too).

          Duels would be better but not light and day (and wouldn't suit my setup).

          • Pixie13 on 08/04/2023 - 06:21

            @G-rig: Thanks for the reply. I made a typo in my original reply - I want the bass to be felt in my chest, but I'm not sure how to achieve that with my sub. Is it the size of the sub and the frequency response it has that allows you to feel the bass in your chest?

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