New low for the arc a770 however this is the 8gb version with three fans, still zero performance difference between 8gb and 16gb models with the only difference being their VRAM.
DOESN'T come with COD MWII
If you want the new COD Modern Warfare II with your card for $30 extra shop at MSY:
https://www.msy.com.au/product/asrock-intel-arc-a770-phantom… - $499 + delivery (comes with COD MWII)
Bit better than an RTX 3060, slightly weaker than an RX 6650 XT on average at 1440p.
https://youtu.be/XTomqXuYK4s?t=815
this was before the arc's major updates
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
according to this slightly better at 6650 XT at 1080p and slightly worse than the 6700 in 1440p
For what it's worth another performance update is in the works, let's hope its significant. We need to break up the duopoly.
https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-reportedly-preparing-anoth…
To be fair my and card seems to get quicker with updates too 6600xt
@TightBungholio: There’s a reason some of the reviewers say AMD ages like a fine wine.
They become faster and more polished up to about a year after release.
16 gig version at $500 pls
🧐Will Intel be the saviour for budget gamers? If price keep going down and driver updates keep dropping?
The used market is already the saviour for budget gamers tbh
I'd get LHR locked nvidia cards (most aren't that cheap), AMD cards you risk buying an ex mining gpu which yes probably has no performance deficiency to a non-mining card but there's always the risk of life span being reduced.
So say you pay $600 now, and instead of being able to offload that for $200-$300 in say 3-5 years, it dies instead. You are paying less for the risk (minor but still significant to most buyers) involved.
I'm 100% a fan of ARC but wouldn't buy it personally. I value my time you see, not $'s saved to hold out and not play a game because it crashes too much or has horrendous fps or other issues because it isn't optimised yet (because of drivers with uncertain future for intel's GPU department).
I have a 1440p Gsync Ultrawide monitor, does this play nicely with that or should I just get a 3060/Ti?
what's your budget and max spend?
Ideally around $550 dollarydoos but could go to like $700.
I would say getting the 6700 XT or 3060 ti would be your best bet
@ChickenDinner123: You could save money and go the RX 6700 non-XT very cheap atm. I am waiting for a deal on the 6700xt but couldnt find any good ones myself today.
3440x1440 is a lot of pixels. I run a 3060 Ti and I would say it's bare minimum.
I've a 1080 and i keep getting tempted to try this. It won't be too much of an upgrade though I guess.
Or it may even be a downgrade
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Intel+Arc+A77…
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+1…
Mate site you quoted is as trustworthy as userbenchmark
Really? :( One number is always going to be a simplistic comparison, but I thought the site was reasonable. UBB is a low bar indeed…
Care to share any examples? I have always found the comparisons to be reasonably good.
@pinchies: Yeah. Im pretty sure they actually did the same thing as userbenchmark at least for the cpu stuff- tests that intel runs better is given higher weight and vice versa for amd
@Brrrrt: Um, they have been showing AMD is better for years? 7950x beats 13900k, 5950x beats 12900k etc… even when intel beats AMD (margininally) on single thread. The only thing that is not considered is that most machines are thermally limited, and can't maintain the peak boost speed beyond one benchmark run, and so AMD is able to deliver better sustained performance in most real-world situations, especially laptops…
@Brrrrt: Can you provide any evidence or references? I completely agree about UBB being garbage, but this is not that site, and I would certainly be interested to know if the sites I use from PassMark regularly are not credible.
@Brrrrt: From reading that thread you provided, they added AVX512 support to the test which affected some results, seemingly in good faith. Following feedback they both admitted error in their test design, and adjusted the test procedures taking into account this feedback. That doesn't strike me as the actions of an untrustworthy company!
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html
Just look at their ranking, the order is obviously wrong. They don't have an agenda like ub but their bench software is pretty mid and not representative of gaming performance at all. If you must use a single source then tpu gpu spec pages have relative performance for basically every card.
I do agree with you that the videocardbenchmark is NOT the best representative single number for gaming performance, but IMHO it is a good representative number of a number of metrics for the "overall performance capability" of each card (including things like compute performance - info about the test here). I don't see how the order is drastically wrong — I would be interested to hear your opinion on this.
Let me agree with you that techpowerup is probably a better metric for those interested in gaming performance exclusively, but I do note that they did not do a direct 1080 vs A770 comparison in their A770 review…. so not sure how they computed that relative performance metric number for the 1080.
@pinchies: Sure stuff like the Ada vs RDNA3 results are because Nvidia gets carried by compute against AMD. But even stuff with the same die is off, just looking at GA102:
3090 below 3080 Ti
A5000 below 3070 Ti
A6000 below A5000
You could probably make a case for the A5000 vs 3070 Ti but the other 2 are straight up wrong.
And A770 vs 1080 isn't directly compared but there's like a dozen gpus that overlap. This is way more accurate than getting random people to run uncontrolled tests.
@late: tldr; Yeah, looking more closely, I should not have used that site for any Intel cards at present. But still I don't think the site is inherently "untrustworthy".
All of the reported Arc scores probably should be disregarded at present, since on the site the median value of all the user benchmark is used as the chart value, and looking closely there is massive scatter at present on the intel card individual tests scores … which is probably due to massive driver improvements that are happening. So hopefully the numbers will get more accurate over time as the drivers stabilize.
way more accurate than getting random people to run uncontrolled tests
Fair enough. Normally they are "sufficiently" accurate because of everything averaging out. The 3090 vs 3080 Ti is a strange one, the cards are genuinely close in performance, but I still wonder what has happened there.
How long before intel quits the gpu game again? They missed the mining bubble unfortunately…
C'mon Arc!! Stay in the fight and catch up to this gen mid-spec range! We need AMD & Nvidia competition!! Don't have to take the crown for top spec…. not everyone has $3k lol… target mid-range and take the market!
Not a bad deal but you can get a 6700 for only an extra $10.
https://www.scorptec.com.au/product/graphics-cards/amd/10009…
Would the 6700 be better than the A770 8gb for 1080p gaming and long term (considering they update drivers for the Arc and make it better)?
1080p gaming is nearly identical on the two cards but the 6700 does have a slight edge. The 6700 is better at 1440p and has an extra 2gb of ram which wouldn’t be bad to have. The drivers on Intel are getting better but still not at the level of AMD or Nvidia so there is a small chance you might have some issues with certain games. I wouldn’t buy this card under the assumption it will improve with driver updates, what if it doesn’t get better and you’ve bet your money that it will. If you buy it, buy it for the performance it has today and if it does improve it’s a nice little gift.
Shame ya can't sli equivalent with these would make a decent 32gig for $1200 doesn't matter for games.
Anyways apple make some really crazy apu's shame ya can't buy them.
In SLI mode both cards need to hold the same data in their RAM so two 16GB cards would not be equivalent to a single 32 GB card.
I guess the Tesla GPUs are obsolete bases of your statement.
I guess you say that alot to your self.
What a dreadful comment. Not only does it not make sense but it just seems insulting to trongy despite that you are one ignorant on how Nvidia SLI works.
Just another word of caution, anything older than 10th-gen Intel or 3rd-gen Ryzen will severely cripple the performance of Arc GPUs, as they take a massive hit in performance unless your system supports ReBAR/SAM
When you get get a 6700 non-xt for this much, why would you do it
except a770 barely runs worse than 6700 with dxvk update and excels in encoding that radeon doesnt fare well at. That and the fact that folks needed a third option-when amd charges 1.8 grand for a top tier gpu, they arent any less of a baddie than nvidia is - if a 7900xtx had gains over the 4090 like the 4090 have over the xtx, they would charge the same price for it. Gpu duolpoly market need to be stopped and intel is the only one that can do it right now, as much as they had cpu monopoly before, its in the best interest for us consumers for intel to become better and they are proving themselves to be, at least given current driver updates
Ah ok, that's nice that it could be good for encoding. I wonder though how Nvidia compares at the similar price point in performance.
8gb… its in the 3060/6600 area and they are around $400-500 now and they work
I saw the a750 drop twice in recent weeks. Expect this will hit low 400s soon - However I would only pull the trigger on the 16gb version