$649, $599 and now $569
A770 has missed the boat on being a mainstream contender but with 16GB and the upcoming Linux 6.2 developments, those of you into ML will find value here
If you're on AMEX, check if you're targeted for an additional $50 credit
it's recent enough to have rebar support right?
Hope so
Intel already demoted the head of their GPU division, Raja Kadouri. Who knows how long they will support it after such a bad start.
https://www.techpowerup.com/302446/intel-reorganises-its-gra…
Jeepers they snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
What victory? At best you could say they've maybe balked at pumping billions into a money pit for several years before they have a viable product in a market who's best days are very much behind it.
That’s what they’re saying.
Wont buy any intel gpu in the forseeable future but really hope intel keeps up with this gpu business and steps up their game - we really need a third contender - like the three kingdoms - otherwise the future is dim for consumers.
wow, this news completely flew under the radar for me! this is huge and - unfortunately - a shame
Raja has made a long tweet about how is health is so bad that he could not sit or stand and is currently resting after a back surgery in India. Hes not demoted, he wants lesser resposibility till he recovers.
Raja was head of AXG at Intel. Considering that the powers above him have decided to disband it, is an indication that it was not successful. His health is a concern, but there was an opportunity to put his leadership position on hold if AXG was successful.
That's an interesting interpretation, I had seen it as a promotion to oversea GPU and other architectures (Chief Architect)?
I will say though, I'm not sure who this GPU is for aside form hobbyists and collectors, I think for ~$600 buy the thing, and keep it completely sealed, I am not sure if the silicon would degrade, it probably won't, and in 10, 15, 20 years it'll be a collector's item.
What are Intel i740 GPUs going for these days!
I'll believe it when I see it.
Intel needs to be in the GPU space, the value of their exclusive x86 patent is dropping like a stone, the consumer space is facing competition from ARM, and the Server space from GPU compute.
Within the x86 space, they won't be able to regain technical dominance over AMD until their 4nm fabs are ready.
Their poor share price has little to do with their GPU expedition, they are spending billions on new fabs, including 14nm fabs - they are so desperate to diversify their business they are moving down the value chain into contract manufacturing- on outdated FABs.
With all this in mind, and after the huge investment they have already made, it would be completely illogical to throw away their best chance of diversifying their business by shutting down the GPU division… because they have some driver problems with their first product.
The fact that nvidia is trying to keep prices so high seems like a huge gift to intel, making them more viable as a contender.
PLE are selling one ex-demo for $473.12 https://www.ple.com.au/Products/656769/ex-demo-intel-arc-a77…
16gb would’ve been great for productivity, but it is almost always beaten by the 3060, tis a shame
Is this a gaming card
Since when does Intel do video cards.
What rock have you been under
It’s a buggy card with incredibly slowly improving drivers, for its price it doesn’t really do more than the alternatives
Should I upgrade my Voodoo Banshee and Riva TNT rigs to this card. I understand that I may get a boost in 2D, but wondering about 3D?
Same question. Stuck on a G200 still waiting for the promised OpenGL ICD. Starting to think after 24 years that maybe it'll never come out and it's time to move on.
I remember having the original 3dfx Voodoo or Voodoo 2 add on card back in the day. I think we had to worry about Glide, Direct X and OpenGL support back then.I did also have the Matrox Mystique which had fantastic 2D acceleration.
No save your money.
Having compatibility issues with my diamond monster sound. What do I set the IRQ to again?
ah newer AGP cards, poor me have to survive with SiS5598 :/
Sub $450 - ATL for 6700, plenty of 3060 deals are also well under this pricepoint - and we can call it a deal. Otherwise with current drivers nah.
Whats the chance of this thing going down in price after CES2023 when lower tiered 40th gen & 7000 series cards drops?
Food, family and wine now on the table. Merry Christmas everybody.
Drivers have improved but still a ways to go
If price keeps dropping i may end up getting one for photo editing rig
I upgraded my S3 Virge to this card but have had major stability issues in space cadet pinball and fury3. However chips challenge runs perfectly in EGA.
Every time I see the words Intel and dGPU in a single sentence, I remember the absolute garbage pile that was the i740. Late to the market, and no real advantage over competitors, and mostly slower gaming performance with crappy drivers that don't really improve enough in time to make a meaningful impact. Oh wait, that's the Arc 770…
So yeah, Intel's track record with dGPUs has been largely abysmal in the past and the Arc series is no exception it seems.
ah the good ol i740, was the cheapest way to get hardware OpenGL back in the day
First generation, hopefully the later gens will come out with a bit more oomf.
Or a clear point of difference. Not sure what everyone needs, but surely it’s not always FPS
Their chiplet approach could be interesting (tile gpu) judging by their data centre card. Hopefully they don't get axed before we get to see them.
I actually got a Arc A380 recently - US$139 from NewEgg, in the end about AU$280 Landed. Its a Weird one - only 75W but needs a separate power feed. Was a bit annoying but in the machine I wanted it had an available feed. Plastic cover is huge too - Asrock!
Games, yes if Games is primary reason then an Arc prob isn't the best idea at the moment although if you have other reasons they might be good enough.
Also for Gaming you really should have a modern CPU - 11/12th Gen recommended but I believe later AMDs have the function that is needed - Resizable BAR (Base Address Register).
If you want to go Streaming and more especially Transcoding to HECV(H265) or AV1! then its an interesting device.
Even the A380 can encode AV1 in hardware - yes sw support isn't great but it can do it in usual transcode packages - see arc site. Nvidia needs a 40x class GPU - a couple of magnitude higher cost ranged just to be able to do encoding of AV1.
Weirdly the driver for ARC it supports a 13th gen CPU as well - which can decode AV1 in Hw but not encode. HW encode may come with 14th gen based on scaled down ARC encode/decode engines.
ML is an interesting use case too, especially in the embedded market where they may bundle the tech with embedded cpus, a Jetson alterative looks to be the target.
So while gaming isn't an awesome idea yet on them, the tech shows a lot of promise and even now there are good use cases for ARC.
For one of my other Computers - actually the one I use the most I got a Nvidia A2000, prob not a pure gaming card either BUT I love it.
Stuck with DX12 games and the absolute stuttering mess DX12 and Unreal games bring.
Just picked this up to give my good old office PC a little bit of an upgrade over its current GT 710 :)