Bali Personnel Hire [Resolved]

sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 00:11
Last edited 25/09/2022 - 12:30

Friends big birthday.

For a present, I would like to hire a couple of staff members for 1 week to do various of novelty tasks.
I think it's fairly important to hire at least 1-2 staff members as a gift.
Each Staff member is given only 1 task to do. Budget is $50-100 Aud a day for like 6-8 hours of work, having a read online, it's not bad for a very simple job. I can't seem to find any instance of these jobs online even existing.

We got the other staff like butler, chef and housekeeper but they came with the house and will be tending to all guests on the day.

Tasks include:

  • Throwing petals as he walks
  • Fanning him with a large palm fan
  • Feeding him fruit into his mouth whilst he relaxes
  • Carrying him around in a palanquin

Couldn't remember the rest, but the first two will suffice.

Please keep all nasty comments to yourself, I'm very serious about finding someone
I found a couple of people and my concierge service is going to find the rest. Frankly, the ozbargain forums are completely useless with prideful people. The world is on the decline and I hope recession doesn't bite you too hard, good luck.

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  • FLICKIT on 25/09/2022 - 00:36
    +2

    Cant the "butler" spread petals and wave a fan?

    Tasks include:… ….. …. The list really goes on:

    https://www.wikisexguide.com/wiki/Bali

    • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 00:48
      -1

      oh nothing sexual though. The list of things actually doesnt go on, I couldn't remember the rest of the tasks

  • El cheepo on 25/09/2022 - 00:54
    +98

    I get its a novelty, and that is a big wage for many Indonesians, but damn thats demeaning and unnecessary.

    Would someone actually enjoy that rubbish?

        • El cheepo on 25/09/2022 - 01:06
          +41

          I would lean towards taking things a step too far.

          Living in a hotel room and getting someone to hand feed you are very different things.

        • Kangal on 26/09/2022 - 01:27
          +3

          You just made me feel sad.
          Studied, Working, and basically a peasant. I can't even imagine a life where someone is treating me like a king.

      • El cheepo on 25/09/2022 - 01:05
        +9

        Put that money into getting some better accommodation…

        • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 01:07
          -2

          It's a birthday present, I dont get to choose the accommodation and its already pretty good.

          • AustriaBargain on 25/09/2022 - 01:10
            +1

            @sunnyc: Maybe this money could be used to upgrade his room, or the room you share of it's a twin. Or fly business class.

            • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 01:13
              -1

              @AustriaBargain: It's a big villa. Also we're not flying there together.

              • AustriaBargain on 25/09/2022 - 01:15

                @sunnyc: How much would it cost to upgrade him to business class? It's not a long flight at least.

                • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 01:17

                  @AustriaBargain: He's organizing his own flights since he has his own schedule and flying from USA. It's a bigger expenditure than hiring 2 people for a week.

                  • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 01:18
                    -1

                    @sunnyc: additionally, i would have to pay for the partner too. As well as there is no widebody planes. Just flew back from brisbane with him in a 737 business, its economy at best

          • El cheepo on 25/09/2022 - 01:12
            +14

            @sunnyc: Personally i couldn’t imagine enjoying that. I would feel Thats exploiting cheap labour for demeaning tasks and also incredibly impractical and inconvenient

            But, To each their own.

            I’m sure if your in Bali, talk to a local concierge at a hotel, they would be able to assist in making these arrangements.

              • jjjaar on 25/09/2022 - 02:18
                +48

                @sunnyc: Why don’t you and all his friends do it then? It’ll probably be much funnier if it’s his mates waiting at his every beck and call instead of some strangers.

                I can't seem to find any instance of these jobs online even existing.

                I wonder why…

              • morse on 25/09/2022 - 03:10
                +23

                @sunnyc: Paying someone to hand feed someone is demeaning. This isn’t an each their own situation, it’s flat out demeaning unless the person can’t feed themselves.

                This plan is going to backfire. If you actually go through with this word will get around that you and your mates aren’t very nice people and you’ll be treated as such, maybe not to your face, but remember you’re relying on others to cook your food and make you drinks. Things might just get a little more expensive for you. Also what is his partner going to make of this? I imagine it will alienate him/her.

                There’s so many better ways to make someone feel special for their birthday. Eg book a massage for your friend and their partner with a proper massage therapist, order a really nice birthday cake, hire a tour guide. Or just get an extra butler and have them do normal butler duties.

                  • kerfuffle on 25/09/2022 - 08:58
                    +2

                    @sunnyc:

                    If the partner doesn't like it, I'll get rid of them.

                    Them being the partner or the staff?

                  • sjj89 on 25/09/2022 - 10:41
                    +1

                    @sunnyc: You can find people advertising those services and hire them easily.

                    There’s a reason you can’t find anyone advertising that they will perform those tasks for you…

                  • morse on 25/09/2022 - 11:23
                    +16

                    @sunnyc: It looks like the majority of people disagree with you and ‘demeaning’ is how it is perceived by people, so that should tell you something - though social referencing doesn’t seem to be your strong point.

                    Like I said “unless the person can’t feed themselves” which is usually the situation with the infants and elderly you speak of. Even most elderly would rather be independent if they can.

                    Body scrubs etc are offered by people who choose to offer that service. You’re trying to find someone to do random things that they weren’t offering which are clearly aimed to make your friend a ‘king’ and the hired person their servant (your friend probably doesn’t even want this) - it’s not classy at all and most people will see it that way. This is the kind of thing that gives tourists a bad name. Like others have said, if it’s not demeaning - do it yourself, maybe you can give him a foot massage whilst you’re there.

                    Why don’t just buy your friend a birthday present like a normal person?

                    I doubt a custom cake has been organised yet, surely your not expecting the chef included to do this too?

                  • Woof on 28/09/2022 - 11:30

                    @sunnyc: Nanny's feed babies and seniors because they cant do it themselves… Pretty sure once my kids started holding a fork I was able to stop hand feeding them. Sounds like your mate is quite capable.

              • El cheepo on 25/09/2022 - 09:08
                +14

                @sunnyc:

                I find the task neither demeaning nor unnecessary.

                Why don’t you do it for him then?

              • GrueHunter on 27/09/2022 - 10:37
                +2

                @sunnyc: Because you're not the one doing the task, and you apparently never developed the ability to empathise with others. For reference, in most humans this occurs around 4 years old.

                You've got dozens of comments and hundreds of downvotes saying what you're doing is wrong. For most people, this would prompt at least a moment of self-reflection: am I the bad guy here? For you, it's just doubling down.

                I guess it's true: money really can't buy class.

        • WreckTangle on 25/09/2022 - 09:07
          +3

          Or visit and donate to a bali orphanage or something useful instead

  • AustriaBargain on 25/09/2022 - 01:08
    +14

    Wouldn't the joke get old fairly quickly?

    • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 01:10
      -1

      I'm thinking that too, so maybe just 1-2 days instead.

      • timthetoolman on 25/09/2022 - 07:07
        +23

        So if you achkowledge it's a joke, how do you not see it's demeaning?
        Think of when people used to actually do it and what their situations were

        • cookie2 on 25/09/2022 - 07:20
          -1

          Who used to wave fans at people?

          • SydStrand on 25/09/2022 - 23:03
            +9

            @sunnyc: Says the person crowdsourcing a party for Caligula.

    • jetblack on 25/09/2022 - 08:17
      +46

      Let's see… Hrmmm… Having a foreigner pay you what is chump change to them but 'good money' for you, so that you can hand feed them like a slave to ancient royalty, all the while putting on a fake smile because, 'c'mon, we're paying you well for this'.

      Nah, can't see why that would be demeaning.

      Definitely not trashy AF, either.

      • Kangal on 26/09/2022 - 01:58
        +3

        TL:DR - I think the OP (sunnyc) is middle aged, first-generation, and of Chinese descent. Probably female.

        rant:
        It's because this site represents the average australian, and we're privileged enough to have our basic needs met, and to squabble over what is better/worse or good/evil.

        A lot of these less privileged countries have people who don't have their basic needs met, and they will do those demeaning jobs. Some won't see it as demeaning because they can't see it from our perspective, others won't care as they have a stronger drive.

        And you can see this pattern from South Americas, South-East Europe, all over Asia, and Africa. And to make things worse, in many of those countries, there are rich people who have a culture of seeing that behaviour as normal. Basically a caste system. And some of those people have immigrated to Australia, but haven't entirely integrated. I've noticed this phenomenon mostly with Rich East-Asian immigrants. Particularly the Chinese as they have the largest closed communities. But it wouldn't be out of the imagination to see it happen by South-Asians (Indian), or Middle-East (Arab). It's a rarer occurrence coming from the other demographics, but people are people :\

        • juki on 27/09/2022 - 08:13

          whats your point ? they will do it even though its demeaning and humiliating ?
          yeah some of them would sell you their children but thats ok because "their basic needs arent met", in those conditions shouldnt the educated-all needs met first world country guys be showing a better example? dont disguise lewd intentions behind so called charity…

          i dont think its really relate to cultural background despite being a very colonial fantasy, really just a lack of morality that reminds me of us military behaviour in SE asia when i was younger, no wonder the world strongly dislikes them.

          • Kangal on 27/09/2022 - 09:18
            -1

            @juki: Culture is how you live. Morality ties into that. You would say the raiding parties of vikings had low morality, they cared more about their own gain than the harm they did to the invaded villages.

            So while we who are privileged can appreciate such concepts, the less fortunate don't have the same opportunity. So those less-fortunate blending into our society have work to do, to change their Culture and Morality, and integrate.

            With that said, OP seems like she (?) comes from a very privileged/wealthy background. So it's no excuse. And in fact, has an obligation to rise to a higher standard. Like a cop/judge who breaks the law should get a harsher punishment. But the world is not what we wish it to be, it is what it is…

            • juki on 27/09/2022 - 14:17
              +1

              @Kangal: i wont go off topic, but vikings refer to an activity rather than a culture, besides thats over 1000 years ago and its a modern interpretation of their culture that we are likely to have in mind (even if the series was fun)
              different context, environment and even living make it unreasonable to justify such behaviour because vikings or whoever in the past did it… (even colonialism for that matter)
              my mum would tell you two wrongs dont make a right anyway

              while the expression of morality may be tied to culture, morality itself is above it (imo) similarly as all major religions have a common sense of what is right and wrong but not necessarily the same way of interpreting it

              • Kangal on 28/09/2022 - 19:59

                @juki: I agree, but you see how the two are linked, which ties in to my first comment. It's highly disputable to say "Vikings" (across the Nordic Peoples) did not constitute their own culture, but the point I was making seems to have made it across. Not sure why the neg though 🤷

                • juki on 28/09/2022 - 23:47
                  +1

                  @Kangal: to quote Shaggy wasn'me - not sure why someone negged, OP, someone misread your parallel?

                  I'm quite pleased this didnt end up in some crazy internet argument on my side of the keyboard

  • ihbh on 25/09/2022 - 07:53
    +6

    Feeding him fruit into his mouth whilst he relaxes

    How will you ensure the feeder washes his hands before? Or who cares, it's only your friend?

  • coffeeinmyveins on 25/09/2022 - 08:00
    +21
    • Feeding him fruit into his mouth whilst he relaxes

    Good lord this would feel awkward as hell to be on the receiving end of. I can't imagine any of my friends or myself enjoying this, and I question the moral compass and ethics of someone who would.

    Are you sure your friend would actually enjoy this sort of stuff? feels like you've got this idea of what they will like in your head, but reality is very different.

  • MrThing on 25/09/2022 - 08:10
    +9

    Ill give your mate blowjobs all day for tree fiddy

    • Name on 25/09/2022 - 21:22
      +2

      I think his mate would like this more than being fed fruit while they relax.

      • InsertCrow on 26/09/2022 - 11:45
        +1

        Who's eating who's grapes?

  • WreckTangle on 25/09/2022 - 09:02
    +46

    These tasks are humiliating for the person and represent rich Australians taking advantage of poverty stricken neighbours. Dont do this, shame on you.

      • [Deactivated] on 25/09/2022 - 09:29
        +7

        There is some historical memory attached to it even though more recent generations have not gone through the harshest military phases of colonialism (currently just financial and trade related), the effects of that era and current issues have not disappeared completely to become a palatable joke. I mean you may have a clean heart but it is something best enjoyed amongst a close knit friends group.

      • jollibot on 25/09/2022 - 11:05
        +14

        If you can hire an Australian for that price then go for it!

        Fortunately, most don't have to resort to degrading work like waiting on Australian douches all the time.

      • CaptainMaverick on 27/09/2022 - 13:10

        If they were desperate poverty-stricken Australians that were being paid that amount or even an Australian equivalent… then no not really better.

        You really don't see the issue here?

      • shruglord on 28/09/2022 - 13:13

        You think this is a big brain response but it just confirms how gross it is.

  • 2esc on 25/09/2022 - 09:11
    +4

    Iim sorry but you may think its fine to pay someone to hand feed a adult but its demeaning for the person they may except the job but it could also mean they really need the job. I think you might get a laugh but everyone else there might think less of you even if they dont say so.
    I think you can find something else as a worthwhile sincere present for your friend and not something for YOUR personal amusement.

    • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 09:14

      Then we don't feed him, still others things that they can do.

  • Nutrino on 25/09/2022 - 09:14
    +21

    You want a literal slave for a week.

    • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 09:20
      -5

      Again, where is the perception of slaves coming from? I can't find any references Getting paid and doing very little is slave work now? Maybe I should call the little flower girls at weddings slaves from now on. Nannies and social carers are now slaves too..

      • [Deactivated] on 25/09/2022 - 09:32
        +4

        Getting paid and doing very little is slave work now? ……….Nannies and social carers are now slaves too

        Not sure if you're trolling or for real.

        • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 09:38
          -3

          Sarcasm I suppose. Sick of these nonbargainers ironically posting irrelevant judgement.

          • morse on 25/09/2022 - 11:29
            +13

            @sunnyc:

            nonbargainers

            I think you’ll find you’re the one out of step with community sentiment.

              • kerfuffle on 25/09/2022 - 12:10
                +15

                @sunnyc: And yet here you are consulting the community? Why ask the community if you think they're not that great?

                • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 13:12
                  -4

                  @kerfuffle: Yeah and hopefully this time I learnt my lesson. Its almost always a mistake listening to others if this month has told me anything.

              • morse on 25/09/2022 - 12:39
                +5

                @sunnyc: Most others seem to like it - you could go and find another community if you don't. I'd say its probably in keeping with most of hte Australian community too. If you find a community of like minded people looking to hire people to perform servant type duties you might get more than you bargained for.

              • jjjaar on 25/09/2022 - 12:59
                +8

                @sunnyc:

                The community is why ozbargain hasn't been great for past 2-3 years

                The responses to this post have proven to me that the ozbargain community is brilliant.

      • CaptainMaverick on 27/09/2022 - 13:11

        Would you do exactly the same work you'll be asking Balinese people to be doing, for the same price?

        You could do it instead of paying that someone; your friend would probably get a bigger kick out of that tbh.

    • Orion au on 25/09/2022 - 16:03

      How does this hit the definition of a 'slave'? It's easy work, it's a liveable wage and they're free to say 'no'. I don't get it…

  • Lurk Hartog on 25/09/2022 - 09:31
    +27

    Yeah, don't be a prick mate.

  • Downvoter on 25/09/2022 - 09:38
    +15

    Are you the plantation owner bloke from Django Unchained?

    • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 09:39
      -3

      I was thinking Coming to America

      • dizzle on 25/09/2022 - 11:28
        +2

        Coming to America - "The royal P**is is clean your highness"

        And you still don't think treating people that way is humiliating?

        While it's for comedic purposes, it's still not a good representation on how to treat people. In fact it's because it's humiliating that it was used to get laughs

  • [Deactivated] on 25/09/2022 - 09:44
    +10

    Hey OP how much do you charge for this service

    • Throwing petals as I walk
    • Fanning me with a large palm fan
    • Feeding me fruit into my mouth whilst I relax
    • Carrying me around in a palanquin

    for 6-8 hours ?

  • SF3 on 25/09/2022 - 09:55
    +4

    Unless this is for a movie scene, but in 2022, oh come on WTH.

    • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 09:57
      -1

      Good idea.

  • randomusername2017 on 25/09/2022 - 10:03
    +2

    Just hire a personal assistant

  • 82norm on 25/09/2022 - 10:09
    +34

    Don’t do this, it’s a douchebag thing to do. Its childish and an imbecile thing to do. Imagine if your mother was paid to do this task? The fact you want to pay the minimum amount is admission that’s what you think of the job. Grow up.

  • afah0447 on 25/09/2022 - 10:14
    +16

    Just because you can do something, it doesn't mean you should do something.

  • hedge on 25/09/2022 - 10:17
    +17

    Like everyone above has said, this is demeaning and if I was your mate, I would hate it so much, I'd tell them to go home and give them extra money with apologies.

    • morse on 25/09/2022 - 11:31
      +10

      I’d also tell OP to go home and stop ruining my birthday holiday.

  • fratzhaus on 25/09/2022 - 10:27
    +8

    The Slave comments are raised because of the very stereotypical servant tasks of Egyptian Royal Fanners - and many other similar roles from cultures/history.

    OP, you're a bit delusional. Skip out on this "joke" to save both your reputation and friendships.

    Else, go for it. Good chance that person will lead you all down a cool urban alleyway out of sight from the public! I mean who knows, you get what you pay for.

  • El cheepo on 25/09/2022 - 11:37
    +7

    What kind of person would actually enjoy this?

    • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 11:47
      -3

      How would you know if most people here isn't even willing to experience it?

      • sunnyc on 25/09/2022 - 11:48
        -4

        But hey, it's absolutely okay for most ozbargainers to buy stuff from restaurants and milk tea shops that actually pay slave labor rates. God forbid, it's okay to sell sexual favours but feeding someone takes the cake

        • DashCam AKA Rolts on 25/09/2022 - 12:22
          +7

          Desperate lash out, in an attempt to justify a demeaning activity.

        • fantombloo on 25/09/2022 - 14:31
          +7

          Absolutely. Most people here have no problem buying chocolate picked by actual child slaves in West Africa or clothes made by downtrodden women in Asia. Just blinkered and selective 'morals.'

          I think most people here are confusing their own aesthetics and cultural norms with ethics. Personally, I dislike this aesthetic too but really it's no different to the large variety of fckrry we all take part in every day. I don't wish you any luck in your pursuit - sounds cringe as to me - but I don't think you're the (bigger) monster people are trying to make you out to be.

        • CaptainMaverick on 27/09/2022 - 13:13

          I mean, that sexual favour stuff where Australians and other internationals go there to get cheap interactions is disgusting, too. None of it is ok.

      • El cheepo on 25/09/2022 - 12:16
        +2

        You don’t need to experience everything to know how you feel about it.

        I think it says a lot about a person if they would actively want and enjoy this treatment.

  • psdillon on 25/09/2022 - 13:58
    -5

    Good on you for spending your money, creating jobs (however short), and not hoarding it.

    I personally think servant type jobs are fine if they are shown respect, given time off, given days off, able to leave at any time, and not preventing from finding other work.

  • Willy Beamish on 25/09/2022 - 14:24
    +1

    isnt this kinda like slavery, 2022 bro thats no bueno.

  • Mistymoo on 25/09/2022 - 14:27
    +7

    That's…rather demeaning and horrible and I question the morals of anyone that would genuinely enjoy strangers doing this for them.

    Do it yourselves - it's actually funny that way. If you don't want to do it, why should someone enjoy doing it for a job? Yes, they may need the money but find something a bit more dignified for them to do. Don't contribute to the obvious issue that everyone else bar you seems to be able to see.

  • OzPandaGirl on 25/09/2022 - 15:26
    +4

    Dear Oz Bargainers

    This is why I love you … most of you :)

  • mirovich on 25/09/2022 - 15:50
    +3

    Don’t feed the troll.

  • p1 ama on 25/09/2022 - 16:00
    +3
    • Feeding him fruit into his mouth whilst he relaxes

    Have you actually checked with your friend that this is wanted?

    I would genuinely be embarrassed to have someone feed fruit into my mouth as if I was a f'ing toddler, geez.

  • s1Lence on 25/09/2022 - 16:30
    +1

    Is your friend disabled and in need of someone to spoon feed him like an adolescent? If so a carer should be easy to find.

  • pnalarobe on 25/09/2022 - 16:38
    +1

    Your friend better look the part too with roman toga and gold encrusted laurel wreath.

  • Maxxjet on 25/09/2022 - 17:12

    If it is kinda of for fun.. like mimicing a old days royal living style for a few days with mutual agreement and within the boundries of local laws and customs no harm at all… the locals get paid nobody holding a gun to their heads to take it . Too many people taking this in a very wrong way - it is for a birthday it is not a long term arrangement… chill people….

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