I don't know if you should wait for the new 7000 series to be released but this is a great price for those looking to upgrade their AM4 socket to the fastest gaming you can get.
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But a far larger cost than a drop-in CPU upgrade. 7000 Series needs a new AM5 Mobo & DDR5.
My 3800X is fine for now but if these drop to $400 then it is a very tempting upgrade.
For gaming this is an excellent CPU, you may find next gen will offer minimal gaming performance over this until the next gen v cache processors are out.
7600X gaming benchmarks from AMD were released earlier today, looks to be a a bit better then the 12900K so should edge this out for gaming.
Turns out they weren't even close.
Unless i can get a 5950x for <$500 I'm waiting.
Yeah, if the 5900x gets down below 450 I'll look at that.
I'll only start to consider if the price drops below $200
The second it comes under $100, I’m pulling the trigger
@AdiOZ: Your extreme ozbargain praxis has shamed me, I will do better and only buy it if it drops below 50
@McOzbargainer: That's not an Ozbargain… this is an Ozbargain… I'll only pull the trigger on it if I can get a cashback with it and make money from buying it 😎
I'll bet this beast will still be close to the performance of next gen cpu's in games, and regardless, if you play at 1440p+ res, you won't need much more than this. But I can understand ppl wanting to invest into that AM5 platform, especially if it carries us through another 5 years.. ;)
'2025+' is the current support window.
'through 2025+'
Considering AM4 got a run from 2016 through to 2022, that's 6 years… 2025+ is only 3 years, so a little bit disappointing..
In my opinion, AMD probably needed to commit to at least 2026; otherwise most people are going to stay on AM4 and "wait and see".
They also didn't promise 2022 with AM4.
With ever increasing competition from intel and power limits raising, its hard to estimate how long a CPU socket would last. Battle has really heated up since the last 2 years. Promising and not delivering is worst compared to not promising yet delivering like with AM4
Been a while since I've been "in the loop"… but I'd be surprised if more than 0.001% of real-world gaming setups would noticeably benefit from a CPU higher than this, for a very long time. surely the majority of gamers are limited by their GPU or by having CPU's which are MUCH older and slower than this one…
Spot on. I personally am rocking a 1600af system, and an i5 2500k office system, both working flawlessly still
I went from an 8-core 1700X to a 6-core 3600X on the same X370 motherboard and gamers ran wayyyyyyyy better with the same beefy Titan Xp.
That must be me. I have 1 pc with a 3080 and 2 with 6900s all on this cpu and the gains coming from a 5600x were fantastic. That said all of them have 360hz/1080 monitors and my gpus aren’t the part holding the fps back. Super interested in the next gen cpus, apart from the cost and mobo and ram and new cooler etc
In my usage case going from a 5600x to the 3D was a bigger performance upgrade than from a 3080 to like a 3090ti I guess
Might be just you lol. Others don't care as much for running games at max settings / or mining depending what your use case is for all those machines
I really pulled the "0.001%" figure out my butt, I don't know how many there are… but I imagine the amount of gamers that are genuinely CPU-bound (low resolution, super high FPS) is still very, very niche?
@pronoun: You will still get unreal 1% lows and frame times. But you're correct, it's mainly a cpu for VR, MMO, strategy, city builders, and any sort of simulators (flight and milsims). I think as gamers, we're are just too accustomed to the slight jitter when explosive effects occur that our minds blocks/adapts to it. What if it's meant to be buttery smooth?
Personally I would need to upgrade my monitor before I could justify a X3D purchase.
I really want this, and I play a few 4X games so would benefit, but its a bit of a jump in price over my 5600x
Decisions =/
Are these THAT much better than the 5800X?
I got a 5800X at launch, I'll probably wait for the next gen
For gaming yes, huge proformance gain of about 20% to FPS.
Even on a 3080 at 3440 × 1440? I can understand it being faster at 1080p, but I don't play at that :)
from what i understand even at higher resolutions, the avg fps may stay the same, but your 1% lows are significantly better
Really depends on the game granted I was on a 3600x but with the x3d in heavy cpu games like fallout 4, hell let loose, tarkov I got gains of 300% MAX but the average was around 150 to 200%
Outside of gaming they are actually slower overall due to lower clock speed and no overclocking support. For gaming they are excellent due to the increased L3 cache.
Can the Ryzen 5 7600X run on B450 + DDR4 or do I need to fork out for both?
Edit - Researched and answer is no.
You need whole new mobo for it to support 7000 series. So either the B650 or the X model that they have. And you would have to swap the RAM out for DDR5 aswell, meaniny itd be a full upgrade.
what is the real gain here? this gets lower mark marginally compared to normal 5800x according to here
It benefits anything needing the big 3d stacked cache it has.
There are games that get a significant fps boost due to not needing to fetch instructions from DDR4 RAM.
gaming performance. heaps of reviews on YT
Jumped from a 3600X to one of these. Huge difference all round. Recommend to anyone who is looking at rolling with AM4 for a bit longer
I'd be tempted to jump from X470 with 3900x except I'm missing PCIe4, and my X470 is getting funny at times.
Big perf gains coming in 7000 series allegedly: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/amd-makes-ryzen-7000…