Celebrate the inaugural WA Day and support local businesses and jobs! Stop buying overseas! 128gb Crucial M4 SSD for just $138 delivered Including GST.
This means $12.55 goes into GST for the government to fund things. A couple cents (!) stays in Perth to help employ more than a dozen Australians. Why keep sending our money and jobs overseas?!
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This means $13.80 goes into GST for the government to fund things. A couple cents (!) stays in Perth to help employ more than a dozen Australians. Why keep sending our money and jobs overseas?
Why don't you guys (computer retailers) form a Common Front and tell the IT distributors to STOP RIPPING OFF AUSSIES. Then we might start buying local.
/rant
Trust me - we are all trying!
Probably need to up the ante !
Nothings happened so far bro !
I feel for local retailers..because a lot of ppl are buying from overseas.
Maybe if you guys start importing directly, that will send a message to local importers.
Heck, I have a camelcamelcamel price watch set up and the Crucial 256GB M4 just hit $199.99 a little while ago. Whenever they resume shipping to Australia, I'll buy one. I'll keep using my WD Blacks till then
+1 for the deal anyway. Not a bad price for 128 GB version.
I signed up, just to debunk some these myths that it would be simplier and easy as a retailer to import and become more compeditive or to "try harder" to become cheaper.
1. Why do we buy from local distributors?
Firstly simplicity, organizing a shipment from overseas can be complicated, and a number of other factors come in play. Bulk orders, to buy direct at a much lower price means buying bulk and many direct factories/brands require a large order or MOQ before even dealing with you; furthermore any respectable brand will already have an authorized distributor and should not be cutting them out.
So let's look at logistics, DHL or other fast shipment methods, sure we can have it in 3-4 days, but $30 for a single hard drive. No thanks, it doesn't get much better as the shipments get larger. A more cost effective way, container shipping; cheap! But 3-4 weeks delivery time? By then the price has already dropped when we receive it and still can't be competitive.
Don't forget both these methods, if large enough entails a 10% gst fee at customs, something a personal buyer does generally deal with under $1000.
2. Why would you pay more buying local?
Warranty, I can't stress this enough, how many people have had atleast one item from eBay that didn't work? Would the freight charge return even be worth it? How about the wait time? Wondering if you'll even get anything back, they are all risks. Sure even retailers locally can have there issues but warranty generally is a lot smoother and cost effective.
Wether you like it or not, when buying locally from a respectable business your paying tax. Believe it or not it's part of what keeps this country afloat. As a business we have to charge it, not paying gst by purchasing overseas may save atleast 10% but don't discount local retailers for something they can't avoid.
3. But margins are already ridiculously high in a retail shop!
No there no surprisingly, contrary to popular belief, most small business ( especially computers) most products make under 5%, we might have some higher bargains in certain lines, but that keeps us afloat.
Dint forget a retail store you can visit in person and check out a product, ask questions or to be able to buy it now, means overheads; for rent, employees and more. The amount of people who will come in and say an items $5 cheaper in eBay; I just say fine I'll match it with a few conditions, pay now pick up in 3 weeks, that's what most items from china will take.
Unfortunately I'm writing this on my phone, so its hard to review my post and in starting to lose track of my point. Sure I love a bargain, that's why I'm here, but it's not as simple as "import it" when it comes to business. Just being a small retail business myself I get dissapointed with the masses that think we are all just ripping people off.
Oh and almost forgot one more point, sure we have enjoyed higher than parity us exchange rates lately, but it's always up and down, a $10 less us price once exchanged could be worth the same Australia at one point or worse! This also complicates importing for small to medium business's.
Now to make this all seem slightly amusing.
/End Rant
TL;DR: It's complicated.
I signed up, just to debunk some these myths
Welcome !
So let's look at logistics, DHL or other fast shipment methods, sure we can have it in 3-4 days, but $30 for a single hard drive. No thanks,
I have bought from sites such as dealextreme and meritline in the past. How can they constantly have postage to Australia (and probably the world at a fraction of that cost you quoted ?) Might be worthwhile looking at how they operate ?
As a business we have to charge it, not paying gst by purchasing overseas may save atleast 10% but don't discount local retailers for something they can't avoid.
If the price difference was ONLY 10% GST, I would be the first one to buy locally. (Even now, I hardly buy anything from overseas. Mostly stuff which isnt available here in the first place.)
Example: Crucial M4 256 local price is ~$300. Amazon price is ~$200.
Someone somewhere is making a almost $100 profit on every 256 M4 sold in Australia, right ? Who is that entity ?
a $10 less us price once exchanged could be worth the same Australia at one point or worse!
Again, completely agree. I wouldn't go to the trouble of ordering overseas for saving $10.
This isnt intended to start a flame war or anything.
While coming from your POV, as a retailer, its all well and good to advocate to buy locally, but as a consumer, I think everyone has a right to pay a cheaper price if there is one available.
Question: Would you buy a laptop from HN if the same model is available at Good Guys for $100 less ? I wouldn't
I guess same theory gets applied while shopping from overseas because its such a small world now and internet has made everything 'within reach'.
It's definately complicated !
:)
IRG, i disagree on the logistic part. You see, parts don't fluctuate in cost prices. If they cost $1 to make , it's $1 for the rest of the year as well. It doesn't matter if you ship fast or slow. From manufacturer to dist to retail. It's about the agreed pricing that is being put up (ie. RRP). The price increase/drop wouldn't affect the distributor IF the prices are low to begin with.
also, amazon.com can ship the harddisk here at USD9.so I don't think your point is valid.
warranty is overrated. especially when it comes to downloadable softwares. even jewellery, i find the returns process painless - wrong size, ship it back, US retailer bear the cost of postage. wow. try doing that here, the retailer will spit a dummy.
seriously? I don't care. Your margins are not my business. Majority of retail chain employees are clueless and just motivated enough to want to make a quick buck off you instead of actually providing actual service. If your services are good, be sure that i'll come back, if your services are shit, it won't matter if you are paying me to take the products off your hand, it's just not going to happen.
*i used to have a business dealing with IT solutions hardware, and i dealt with distributors and manufacturing alike, although not in this country. I can only say that business owners are lucky here.
@geek7899
Postage rates from HK to AU are based on qty shipping. They'll send out 10,000 items in one shot and get a bulk rate. They also pay their local rates to ship from HK to AU. Never mind the # of dodgy shipping practices they currently have in place because of back room agreements. Try shipping from AU overseas and you might be able to figure out why our international outbound is so expensive.
I do a lot of imports (containers/LCL/DHL/Fedex…) and it isn't a simple process.
IRG has pretty much summed it up perfectly. Our min wage is a killer too for small business… min wage in USA is about $7.50/hr without superannuation and they don't get a cushy 4 week paid holiday every year. When I first came to AU 9 years ago and was told I'd get four weeks of paid leave a year I thought I won the lottery.
to be fair, computer hardware prices have dropped a lot to become very competitive with the prices in the US. I think for example RAM is just as good (if not better) priced in Aust.
Got any 256GB ones? :P 128GB just isn't a big enough upgrade from my existing 80GB SSD.
Next time
I am sorry but…
Do you have any idea how long we have to wait for this "next time"? :)
I am about to order 256Gb from Amazon via mail forwarder…
I would pay a bit extra for a local deal.
I'd love to know how far away this would be, my brother and I are both looking at getting 256 gb ssd drives. I'll hold off for maybe a couple of weeks, if you guys can do a decent deal.
Yes, if they got any 256GB for around $266, I will go for it without thinking.
If not the price is too high from local retailers, who really wants to order from overseas.
Don't get us wrong! :(
For 256GB, how about RAID two drives, it may be faster too…
+1 for 256Gb deal
Actually, if it's $138.00 incl. GST …the government gets $12.55. ($125.45 + (10% x $125.45) = $138.00)
But yes, I think we get the point - go Aussie go! :)
You're right - blame it on a late Friday before a long weekend!
Go complain to your local supplier for charging you a higher price. Perhaps, consider importing directly from cheaper overseas supplier and skip the local middlemen :D Then you'll have lower cost, and we'll pay less too. Isnt that great
But Amazon won't ship to Australia.
Amazon does ship to Australia. Except that the merchants that Amazon deals with don't.
For some items, (for eg. Crucial M4 256GB), even Amazon won't ship to Australia.
They used to…. but someone on WP explains why it doesn't happen anymore !
have you got the link? I didnt see that post.
@ slowmo
he mean Amazon ship other stuff to Australia.
eg. Amazon used to sell the 128GB & 256GB crucial m4 to Australia, they stopped selling that 128GB to Aust, and then, they only allowed the 256GB to ship to Aust, but eventually they also stopped selling the 256GB!
the TV news did mention that some big retailer are trying to ban oversea product by signing some sort of contract/deal with them.
@ geek7899
you have a link?
How much for instore pickup?
Same price, but ask nicely for a free gift, and you may get an Intel T-Shirt :)
Sounds good ;)
More importantly, how much for the intel t-shirt with an SSD purchase? lol
Will wait for the 256GB one!
If it's not too long…
Mrs Dance had to cut down a tree in Barrack street Perth City all those years ago so we can get this drive cheapish.
Thank you Mrs Dance!
ummmm.. ok…
Good deal!
This means $12.55 goes into GST for the government to fund things. A couple cents (!) stays in Perth to help employ more than a dozen Australians. Why keep sending our money and jobs overseas?!
Because it's cheaper to buy overseas.. typical crap from aussie retailers, they wouldn't give a crap about 'local jobs' if they kept making money!
Very good deal!
Will you have these in Myaree tomorrow morning ?
No, sorry - just a very few units are in Osborne Park. Lots more coming next week
if i order monday, when can i expect it to arrive in melbourne?
need one before next weekend…
PLE has them for $164 so not a bad price from netplus.
2.5 inch (CT128M4SSD2)
Austins do not have them listed
Hi Rep,
Great price. Does HDD come with the transfer kit?
No, just the drive
Is there any other way to image the current HDD to this one then. As most of the laptops does not come with the restore DVD.
As most of the laptops does not come with the restore DVD.
Creating own restore DVD's is highly recommended
What will you do if you dont have recovery DVD and the HDD suddenly fails ?
Newer laptops have SATA HDDs which can be plugged in to any recent PC (the connectors are the same as larger 3.5" HDD) then you can then use something like:
- PING (http://ping.windowsdream.com/) - This is free,
- Symantec Ghost (http://au.norton.com/ghost/),
- Acronis True Image or Migrate (http://www.acronis.com)
to make an image of one HDD to the other. I'm sure there are some other good/free products on the market.
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I really don't know how the price compares but I just wanna say that the last time I visited NetPlus, the service was exemplary.
I've warrantied a couple of items through them and been happy with the follow up support . That's the real test . Their all your best friend pre-sale .
Great price and +1 for following current ongoing bargains and trying to fight grey importers! Personally I will buy local everytime if it is not too much more, but very often the difference us huge.
+1 for 256GB. I am waiting to buy it locally.
Should be changed to support local retailers if they offer competetive prices, business aren't charities and should not be treated as though they are.
I'll gladly support business such as this if they keep offering prices like these though, so keep it up!
+1 for 256GB. I'm patiently waiting to upgrade from my 128GB Falcon 2!
Good deal, but…this whole 'WA Day' thing irks me. Foundation Day was fine. On a sidenote, any specials on regular hard drives coming up? Really need something like a 1TB WD caviar black as a new system drive to replace my 160GB.
How does this compare with the Sandisk Extreme?
How do these drives compare to Sandisk Extreme SSDs (120GB / 240GB models)?
They sell for around the same price.
If it helps you make your decision:
http://www.johnnylucky.org/data-storage/ssd-database.html
From what I can see, the Sandisk excels at sequential write and read, whereas the M4 excels at everything else.
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4578/sandisk_extreme_240gb_…
Great price from an Australian Retailer, great to see them giving importers a run for there money. +1, would buy one but not in the market for an SSD until the end of the year.
um.. ok i need to register first to place an order and I need a landline phone number to register. I just recently moved… would a random or overseas number cause any inconvenience???
put in code and hit enter
I did that….. i also just tried it again and it came out the same……
NOT FARKING $138 DELIVERED WHY DID I GET NEG VOTES….
Did you select the promo delivery option? And it's 138 before the credit card surcharge
I just did a trial order just now, it comes up as the cheaper price. You're still doing it wrong…
Promo knocks $20 off and gives a free delivery option.
Unticked insurance and it's $138 delivered if paying by Cheque/money order or bank deposit, other wise there's a 2.3% fee on CC or 2.4% on PayPal.
(Insurance is 5% of order total and CC/PayPal fee is charged on item+shipping total)
need the 64 gig version :)
Go you halves. I have a hacksaw.
Just a quick note to say a BIG THANK YOU for all the positive votes! A comeback by the Aussie battler retailer is imminent!
great deal!!! I for one ALWAYS supporting local retailer when price is close!
anyone know where can we get the Transfer Kit by itself? :)
You could use one of these
http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/71514
Admittedly they are only USB 2.0, but they will allow you to connect up a SATA drive via USB for not to much.
thanks, but I believe the Transfer Kit actually have some sort of software/or built-in software to transfer partition & files?
the GoFlex doesn't do that though……..
Yes you're right sorry I missed that, it does have some software in the transfer kit.
Looking at the following post though, you could reasonably easily clone the disk with free cloning software (like PING or the one they mention) and a GoFlex dock/any other SATA to USB cable.
http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/Data-Tran…
Hurro Diana :)
Good deal NetPlus
Can we pick up from Myaree next week ?
Sorry i have a noob question, what do we use this SSD for? I know an internal hard disk 2.5" and 3.5" for laptop and desktop computer. But if this is say for tablet PCs, how do I replace it without voiding the warranty? Or is it for you to fit onto an external hard case?
Hi wtfnodeal,
A SSD would normally only be used in a PC or Laptop as those devices will be able to utilise its full capability. You could put it in an external case and use it as storage but that would really be a bit of a waste of money (if you did thiugh you'd use USB3 or FireWire)
As for tablets (unless you mean a Windows tablet), most tablet devices don't have an SSD hard drive like the one being sold here, they generally use chips like the ones in this device however they are in a different configuration to fit in to a tablet..
So long story short, buy an SSD if you want to speed up your PC or laptop, they aren't of any use for a tablet.
hmm tempted for the laptop!
great offer… but bring on the 256gb!
soooo tempted…. Go NetPlus!
It would be good to know when 256Gb going to be available…
Ahh was skipping through and ended up getting charged an extra 2.4% Paypal fee. This is unfortunate, I thought under Paypal TOS businesses can't charge a surcharge for accepting Paypal - https://www.paypal.com/au/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/terms
Bought 2, charged a decent surcharge :(
So this is done then? It's showing up as $158 at the link now.
It's $158 on the product page, but put the code "WA-DAY" in at checkout and the cheaper price should pop out.
Just asking, but are these drived made in china?
Singapore
I have 4 drives 2 are made in singapore and 2 are from china.
All 4 were purchased from b&h.
Should one always tick delivery insurance!? whats the general thumb rule?
I always tick insurance as a general rule for myself (I'm paranoid like that)
Australian retailers aren't ripping people off. Here is an example of a few things I've sold on ebay….
I bought a product for $23.50 on ebay including shipping. I sold said product for $39.99 including free postage. Straight up off the bat because it's a video game ebay take 9.9% and if paid via paypal (most of the sales are) I lose another 2.4%.
$39.99 * .877 = $35
After that you take into account the postage + packaging of each item = $2.50
$35 - $2.50 = $32.50
I also have to pay full 10% GST on the item since I paid none on importing it
$32.50 - $4 = $28.50
End result is $28.50 - $23.50 = $5…..of that $5 I have to pay tax.
You do realise that eBay is not a valid arguement for retailers not ripping us off right? (also eBay fees are 7.9% or less)
Using your example of $39.99
$39.99.897 = $35.87 (for the final value fee and PayPal fee)
$35.87-$1.50 = $34.37 (for the insertion fee if you are a business without a registered eBay Store)
$34.37-$2.50 = $31.87 (for shipping)
$31.87-$3.64 = $28.23 (for GST)
$28.23-$23.50 = $4.73 pre-tax profit (which is a 20.13% pre tax profit)
$4.73.7 = $3.31 after-tax profit (which is still a 14.09% profit)
(Warning in advance the tax figures may be off by up to 10% because I'm unsure of how the GST credit for GST registered businesses work)
Okay so lets look at this in a proper eBay business store, set up properly and dealing in decent volume of trade so the monthly eBay store fee ($24.95) is minimal on the profits (won't be taking this into account).
$39.99*.906 = $36.23 (eBay final value fee of 7% and PayPal fee of 2.4%)
$36.23-$0.20-$0.30 = $35.73 (eBay insertion fee and PayPal fee)
$35.73-$2.50 = $33.23 (shipping)
$33.23-($39.99/11) = $29.59 (GST, and correct me if I'm wrong but the GST paid on import is credited to the final GST given to the government so it should still be 1/11th of the sell price regardless)
$29.59-$23.50 = $6.09 pre-tax profit (25.91% profit)
$6.09-$1.83 = $4.26 after tax profit (assuming 30% tax rate, 18.13% profit)
Now that's assuming you're buying straight from the distributor, and I'm thinking you're not (which means you're already paying for the profit of the distributor and retailer overseas increasing costs and minimalising profit). If that was a properly set up business I suspect their import costs is cheaper and their profit margin would be larger. Since we're doing a lot of assuming, I'll assume that the overhead costs for a retailer will offset the cheaper import price and they're still making 15%+ pure profit. Translate this into a B&M store and the eBay and PayPal fees should be gone because overheads are accounted for in cheaper imports, or worst case scenario they haven't been and the fees are then the overheads. At the end of the day still 15%+ pure profits.
Okay I just realised how many assumptions I made and thus my little rant is 99% invalid. I may or may not come back and fix up my rant…
-goes back to studying for exams-
Actually Ebay fees for dvds/games/bluray are 9.9%. Go read it again. My figures are correct.
That's not taking into account when someone on ebay decides to make fraudulent claims and get their money back via paypal, I pretty much have to write off 1% of sales due to 'lost mail' or someone claiming their game didn't come with a serial key (bullshit). Occasionally a customers item gets damaged in the mail and I have to send a replacement, thats a big cost right there.
Secondly, I was just making a statement as to all the costs that are involved JUST in an ebay store. With a retailer you have rent, staff wages, utility bills, advertising among a few examples. I worked for a major retailer and it was rare for a sale to leave the store with 15% gross profit attached to it. Due to the culture of price matching or people being serious ball busting tight arses most sales were leaving at 1-2%. I know for a fact there were back end rebates for the retailer which helped, but they were make very little money for a lot of effort.
http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/sell/fees.html
I can't see any differences in categories unless you're selling a car, boat, houuse, etc…
edit: I see, you are indeed right, I stand corrected. Did not pay close enough attention to store fees.
Yeah I get charged AU $4.26 selling a $42.99 item. It really eats balls. Ebay are greedy as hell. Won't be long and I'll get my own site up and running though and they can eat shit.
Looks like the US price for the 512gb drive has dropped to around $400 US… any chance of a good price on the 512gb drive in Australia?
+1 for a deal on 256gb or 512gb
+3 for a deal on the 256!
Hey guys.
My Laptop is SATA2. Is it worth buying this or buy a SATA2 SSD? I'm guessing this one is backward compatible!!
Here's an article that might interest you :)
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sata-6gbps-performance-s…
Thanks mate. It's a bit more clearer now.
Can't decide between this and the Sandisk Extreme…
same here….apparently Sandisk has newer NAND tech than the M4, but ppl seem to rave about M4's reliability…while Sandisk is still an unknown since it's fairly new… :(
Note, don't stress about the stock level on our website - as lots more are coming in.