A router that will let you fist pump, pat yourself on the back and over celebrate winning your fort night video games.
generally goes for around $250 mark.
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This always scares me when I post something I just bought on ozbargain. Just praying someone doesn’t say they bought the same item for significantly cheaper haha
please post whatever you believe is the cheapest one. let the rest of us decide it
Omg would've bought for mesh!!
Holy shit same here. How did i miss that. Would have bought 2 or 3 for mesh at that price.
It sold out in about 5 mins, most people missed out tbh so don't feel too bad.
$89? How did I missed that?
$89 would have been an absolute bargain!
Bought this for a family member at $209 and its a cracking router. Pulling 970Mbps / 47Mbps on AussieBroadband and wifi 6 range is pretty good. Tall praise considering I'm firmly in the Ubiquiti or nothing camp :p
Does ubiquiti have decent all in one router setups
Or do you still need router + APs?
They have Unifi Dream Machine. I have no experience with them though.
They have a Unifi Dream Machine UDM (old) that's Wifi 5 and was a great product. The new Unifi Dream Router (UDR) is a sweet router. Wifi 6, POE ports, NVR and more built in and decent all in one unit. https://store.ui.com/products/dream-router
UDR is only dual core
UDM is quad core but wifi 5
The UDM Pro/SE are too large for me and we don't yet have decent Protect cameras available except the super-old models so it's kind of useless having a 1Gbps shared 8 port switch unless it's just for cams
I've got one foot in the Asus camp and one in Ubiquiti so I just bought a second hand RT-AX56U (supports Merlin) today for $120 to tide me over with my struggling ac68u until something better comes since I can't justify $400 for a router when I can't decide what ecosystem I'm going for yet :(
@s3n: Dual-core or not, it runs all needed, and the router and throughput is a lot better than most consumer routers. Enabling threat management, protect and more is possible.
That said, all routers are for people's needs. Plenty of people who are rocking $80 wifi routers and are happy.
Opted for a 24 POE Pro switch, UDM SE, two U6 Pros and some protect cameras on their way.
What cameras don't we get? I can buy them all (albeit global stock issues)?
@mxlmxlmxl: Interesting point but from what I’ve seen only UDM can handle gigabit QoS for example and UDR has a few threads about being underpowered for gigabit
Will a dual core handle multiple device VPN plus QoS?
Yes stock issues with cameras plus the new ones not hitting their release targets due to supply issues
What cams did you get?
@s3n: Ah, haven't seen that. I'd hope it'd still do better like fo like on other routers.
I managed to snag a G4 Doorbell Pro (sent to someone in US sending to me), 2 x G4 Pro and 3 x G4 Bullets. Plan to add a couple of G4 Instants down the line for internal maybe one day.
@mxlmxlmxl: Wow that’s some expensive kit almost like a commercial setup :)
I was just planning on waiting for the g4 flex to replace the g3 flex which is a bit long in the tooth so more of a budget setup
That’s great my 2 x ac68u aimesh with latest merlin is struggling on gigabit
100% cpu @ sub approx 900mbps on ethernet so it suffers juggling wifi at high speeds
I missed out on the latest ax6000 deal couldn’t make up my mind but kind of wish i bought it
I was thinking of going ubiquiti but the dream machine SE only has an aggregate 1gbps shared on the switch which is a serious nerf so was thinking of buying all the bits separately
Just a warning that there are a LOT of similarly names products in ASUS' router range.
So if you're buying this with the expectation to put Merlins firmware on it; IIRC this one can't. But I could be wrong.
My point is; double check. TUF vs 'not' are often different.
If you're the type of person to care; Gl.iNet FLINT is now up to OpenWRT21 (finally; RC2 v4.0.0) and is only $135
Thought not. TY.
But the 'RT-AX3000' is.
Catches a lot of folks out.
I literally just loaded up Gnutons GIT to have a look myself :)
Thats enough for me to be happy. But at $200+ I feel like I need to keep looking.
Really interested to know, is this just router or modem router?
Router
you'd rather them be separate anyway.
If you need a modem for vdsl2 you can just grab anything which will operate in bridge mode and connect it up.
The only connection that needs a modem that isn't supplied by NBN these days is VDSL2, so it doesn't make as much sense to make decent modem / router combos at the larger expense when it doesn't apply to a large proportion of connections.
Yeah thanks libs for the dog’s breakfast network. sigh
yeah basically lol
I just want a fast modem/router for FTTH. ie. Just one box in the house for internet. Not achievable?
FTTP is two boxes. nbn NTD + router.
I'm running an older TP Link DSL-AC68U which does this, I didn't want the clutter.
I'm only on a 50/20 plan but the signal strength and speed never miss a beat.
Occasionally I boost the plan to 100/20 and it rarely drops below 100Mbps on Speedtest.
There are usually a few kicking round for cheap on fb marketplace.
FTTH modem is provided by NBN (the white box).
You connect 1 more device, ie your router to it and you're good.
@serpserpserp: That would be a mess from technical perspective, that's something you should be handling on your own or you'd be subjective to whatever garbage they gave you.
Look at the shit ISPs provide.
Tempting .. my rt-ac68u hasn't let me down but I'd be keen to try AiMesh — assuming these two can work together.
i have a mesh network with AC88u as access point + TUF-AX3000 as node. Works great. You will only get wifi 6 connectivity through TUF-AX3000.
They does absolutely fine, I have AX3000 with 1 AC68U in AIMesh and another AC68U in AP mode.
Very happy.
Will work, use latest firmware, 68u as the node.
How big is your place? I’m not convinced it’s worth it. I’ve got router in a centra location and connect all my mobile devices to that on 2Ghz. I’ve got an AP in the lounge room that also acts as a switch and the only things that connect wirelessly to that are the TV and the mibox. I tried mesh but found the iOS devices didn’t switch well between the different APs. I live in a single story 3 bedroom house.
That's apple for ya
Thanks for confirmation all
Can this do vlan or policy routing?
I would have bought this just for OPs description
Computer alliance going next level with selling strats
Can I just connect this to my Telstra 5G mobile broadband modem via Ethernet cable, and ditch the old white Telstra ADSL modem/router?
Which modem do you have?
Why would you want to? Why not just use the wifi from the modem?
not sure of the little 5G modem model Telstra supplied with small screen, in fact I have always just plugged it into the old router so I didnt have to change all the login details fro everything.
I have never tried to connect to the modem without the router.
Ok. Can't think of a reason it shouldn't work.
If you want a high performance router with good security you can always use a old x86 cpu and intel NIC card. OpenWRT for good support and PFsense with good security. Especially with IoT these days you have a good firewall to make sure your IoT is behaving as they should. My pfsense (bsd) router can only be access with my 4046 bit cryptographic keys.
I use Gbit Ethernet and get pretty good speeds.
My iperf3 example
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr Cwnd
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 114 MBytes 952 Mbits/sec 173 170 KBytes
[ 5] 1.00-2.00 sec 112 MBytes 939 Mbits/sec 125 132 KBytes
[ 5] 2.00-3.00 sec 112 MBytes 938 Mbits/sec 94 156 KBytes
[ 5] 3.00-4.00 sec 112 MBytes 939 Mbits/sec 99 96.2 KBytes
[ 5] 4.00-5.00 sec 112 MBytes 938 Mbits/sec 127 133 KBytes
[ 5] 5.00-6.00 sec 112 MBytes 938 Mbits/sec 88 180 KBytes
[ 5] 6.00-7.00 sec 113 MBytes 944 Mbits/sec 94 184 KBytes
[ 5] 7.00-8.00 sec 112 MBytes 938 Mbits/sec 92 151 KBytes
[ 5] 8.00-9.00 sec 112 MBytes 940 Mbits/sec 76 171 KBytes
[ 5] 9.00-10.00 sec 112 MBytes 939 Mbits/sec 79 164 KBytes
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bitrate Retr
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.10 GBytes 941 Mbits/sec 1047 sender
[ 5] 0.00-10.00 sec 1.09 GBytes 939 Mbits/sec receiver
What's the latency like?
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.199 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.190 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.198 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.190 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.092 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.209 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.193 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.159 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.191 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.118 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.103 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=0.182 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=0.194 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=0.185 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=0.154 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=0.154 ms
About 190mcs ethernet to ethernet.
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=6.2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=8.4 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=1.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=1.3 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=7.82 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=8.2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=2.7 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=2.2 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=3.5 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=5.3 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=4.7 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=4.31 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=13 ttl=64 time=4.7 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=14 ttl=64 time=2.19 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=15 ttl=64 time=4.1 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.1.112: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=8.60 ms
Lan to WIFI. No really lag spikes at all. I usually play Moonlight and remote play on my phone and do not notice lag spikes at all.
Sounds like an energy guzzler?
As much as this is an effective option, it's only efficient in a few edge cases. For the vast majority, running a simple of the shelf router is already stretching their technical capabilities to the limit.
While PFsense is incredibly powerful, it's also far too much work for the average user. If you're already running your own home server for other purposes, then sure it's an option.
no one cares you passed ccie, go back to answering tickets on how to delete cells on a spreadsheet
I do not work on computers nor I dont know what what a CCIE is. Toxic attitudes like your attitude about first line support staff creates a toxic work environment, and workers with low emotional intelligence are not highly valued workers. If you are a child that just graduate uni, oh man the workplace is going to humble you real quick.
BTW I did a quick google. Asus routers were targeted by the GRU (Russian Intelligence) to create a botnet malware, this was 2 months ago.
How dies the gaming router differ from the regular one? Say the normal RT-AX3000? Which one is more desirable for non-gaming use?
A comparison here:
https://versus.com/en/asus-rt-ax3000-vs-asus-tuf-gaming-ax30…
Form factor (and an extra $100 for the RT-AX3000) seems to be the only difference.
Here is a good review and a bit of comparison between those 2
https://www.blacktubi.com/review/asus-tuf-ax3000/
Gaming router is marketing BS. Like having 2 different brands of 3080 GPUs, one with gaming in title and the other without. Does the same thing.
After a bit more looking around, gaming routers with "special" gaming ports have different hardware and therefore incompatible with Merlin: https://www.asuswrt-merlin.net/
As per my comment above, there is currently an asuswrt-merlin fork for this router, yes the gaming version (TUF).
Currently on Beta revision and soon to be GA
Would this be a good option for a FTTP connection where WIFI reach is important? I have a pre-configured ATA I'm going to hang off it no VoIP isn't important isn't important.
Only regularly going to be using it for a couple of AC devices so AX really isn't a biggie either but of course nice for the infrequent visitor who has a device which supports it.
recently got the AX-86S from prime day sales, after cashback is under $260, setup the mesh with AC-68U, both running merlin firmware. Works great and now able to pull via wifi almost whole house, @ 250M on superloop NBN.
My parents still have a landline so they require the Telstra Smart Modem for VoIP.
From the little research I did, VoIP only works if the Telstra modem is being used as the primary router.
Is there a way to use VoIP while having this Asus as the main router?
True, that's how they lock you in, do your parents really still need to be with Telstra?
Now that new hardware required/considered this could be a perfect time for them to give the finger to the big T.
Depending on their internet usage per month I'd be surprised if you couldn't find something cheaper with the same or better quality - even factoring in the 'telstra included' landline.
I'll try convince them to finally ditch Telstra.
What technology are they using for NBN, what speed do they need and how much data do they use per month?
As an example, either one of these deals might be a better/cheaper choice than Telstra?
@shutuptakemymoney101: They're on HFC & would need unlimited data for their security cameras.
I'll check out that link. Thanks!
@hotdog85: For a stand-alone VSP (which is a good idea anyway) have a look at CrazyTel - port your parents landline to Crazytel and their shop sells cheap pre-configured plug and play ATA's.
I mean it is good price
Does anyone know what the 2.4 GHz client limit of this model would be? If you happen to have a lot of smart and IOT devices connecting to the 2.4GHz radio some routers tend to max out and reject new connections at very low client numbers (mostly cheap routers provided by ISPs) so I'd prefer to know this before buying. Unfortunately I was unable to find any related info on the product spec page.
In case you can't find any other info, this link may offer some insight for Merlin firmware.
https://www.snbforums.com/threads/max-number-of-2-4ghz-clien…
Got this for $89 last year.