The cheapest RTX 3080 seen for a while.
Seeing lettuce is $12 per kg, median house price up 50%, we're lucky to be paying same price 2 years ago for this baby.
Don't forget the free PSU promo, Eagle is eligible:
https://au.aorus.com/event-detail.php?i=2210
Isn't the 3070 just a better buy currently? The $780 3070 seemed seemed like much better bang for buck, even up to 4k res.
With the next gen GPUs looking to be very performant, personally went with the 3070, with the plan to offload and upgrade to something in about 18mo. And I only bought something because my 970 is dying.
I wouldn't be buying a 3070 for 4k, but guess it depends on what quality / games you expect.
Oh yeah it's far from ideal, but it's definitely…passable? 4k High gets 50+ fps in modern-ish games. Personally on 4k i turn off AA and notice a nice-ish boost in FPS without too much of a visual hit. Hopefully enough to last for 18mo and then buy the 4070 when the market has calmed down.
https://assets2.rockpapershotgun.com/nvidia%20rtx%203070%20v…
@incipient: I often use ReShade or it's older relative SweetFx to hook in SMAA antialiasing (you just add a Direct X dll replacement to the game executable directory). With modest settings SMAA only has a small performance impact, and you can add other filters for sharpening, saturation/vibrance, contrast, etc. (Reshade default settings for SMAA are very high and should be scaled back, whereas SweetFX defaults were about right).
LOL yeah. I've had 2 faulty Gigabyte 3080's. Never again.
because you mined on it 24/7 without stopping
Nope. They only lasted like a week.
@Pigsy3: I played some Red Dead 2. The exact listing was - Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 EAGLE OC 10GB Video Card - Rev 2.0 Version
Anecdotally, have also had terrible experience with their QC - recent motherboards though.
Doesn't that sound like a problem with that specific board / gpu combo?
I had a gigabyte 3070 rev which kept blue screening, rando fps drops and would crash in games with RTX on.
Was a drama to refund too so like others here I said to myself "never again"
dodgy cuda cores and power outlay system is the culprit most times.
These days I got a ZOTAC 3080 and zero issues.
gigabyte are only decent for mobos and gaming monitors outside that they are not so great.
Thermal pads on my 3080 I bought in Jan 2021 were absolutely sh*te. Never buying Gigabyte GPUs again
It's old man. Not to mention $40 more expensive than launch price. Get a 4070 in a few months
Good luck finding stock.
I'm not expecting stock, as a whole, will be as much of an issue it has been over the last 18mo. Price will be the issue. It's going to depend how much of a discount on the flop/$ they give compared to the 3000 series, and how much of a price drop the 3000 series sees.
Lots of people aren't gaming at 4k yet, and especially with the cost of living pressures, people are going to super happy to pick up a well priced 3000 series gpu.
I wouldn't expect to get a 4070 in a few months, but I'd be waiting to see what happens (if my gpu wasn't dying). Depends of course of much you value $1k vs waiting.
@incipient: Agree re price. Really it's simple. Put your feet in the shoes of a PC store and even if they have some stock it won't be vast. You run a reverse auction to maximise profits.
You should see a psych jimmy77…… you're so negative lmao :-P
I have an Gigabyte R9 280x from 2013 still running in my kids PC.
Have they generally gone down in quality for GPUs?
My r9 290 died a month ago. It definately sounds like they've gotten worse
In 9 years, it would seem so.
More built to a budget (there is a reason they're the cheapest card regularly available).
And all this time I thought Zotac was bottom of the barrel?
Zotac, leadtek, xfx, powercolor, are all pioneers of gpu's. They've been around for 25+ years. They may sell cheaper than other brands but in most cases they don't OC their cards like others from the factory.
Their build quality is top notch and very solid using more metal over plastics. Will often outlast other big brands too.
Geez, 6 months ago, you would pay 3060Ti at this price!
I wouldn't touch that shitty chinese ex-miners gpu with a 10 foot pole.
It would cost me money just to dump them to recycling centre.
Maybe they more useful to throw them at neighbours barking dogs.
harsh sir i'm using one right been in my rig for 2 years already…
Bullshit. Maybe in the US, but I challenge you to find cheap used GPUs here in Australia.
In fact, in Canberra the only listings for 3080s are more expensive than this new retail GPU.
could very well be bs. waiting for the commercial miners to collapse that's when the big walls will arrive
The articles about dumping cheap gpus don't seem to relate to Australia. Yet.
I'm celebrating with bundles of joy. Only 1.2k for a gpu. I remember in 2012 I could build an entire high end gaming rig for 1.2k
Thats general inflation at work.
It's also incredibly dense technology in work. Go and have a look at the fidelity/monitors/vr headsets available in 2012.
You should go have a look at how much a house cost in 2012 as well, if you want to make some more irrelevant observations.
And those haven't changed. GPU tech has come in leaps and bounds, I have as much DDR6 vram in my GPU as the ram in the rest of my rig!
Technology depreciates houses appreciate.
RTX 3060ti is $530 AUD msrp. This gpu crisis is far from over only the 6600xt is priced appropriately. ie not inflation a crypto bubble
I remember I could get petrol for around $1/L or less at that time…
I remember KFC still had lettuce at that time…
To be fair, the Zinger burger I had recently did have lettuce in it despite the price of lettuce has increased by 10 fold.
haha like 15 years ago
Yes, I too remember when Australia’s economy functioned
I remember a paddlepop being 20c when i was younger. Stop living in the past and comparing stupid prices. Things may seem it goes up in price, but compare the technology of it. This gen vs 2012 gen.
Lego have a team of builders (who are paid over 200k p/a) to put together old blocks to make new things. For them to make a new mold for a single block is over $1mil! Now think about shrinking a die to put over 7bil micro doobies in 2cm+2cm square. How much is it costing them to shrink it each gen??
True! might as well say I remember when 1c and 2c coins were still a thing lol
The Australian Olympic Commitee used 1c/2c pieces, melted them down and used them to make the bronze medals for the 2000 sydney games.
He said for every gpu deal.
Try going outside.
Can't wait till the evga ones drop back down to this price, once the 4000 cards arrive, prices will drop further on these last gen cards even more.
this or 97.5kg of lettuce
The lettuce will last longer than one of these
HODL the lettuce and sell on the next pump
Yes they fixed it in future revisions, however there's no guarantee you'll get the newer version. There's also no difference in model number either, the only way you'll ever know you got the proper one is to open it up and see the components inside. HBI himself stated this down in the comments section.
Just HODL for few more weeks, the land slide has started. More news is coming everyday. Of course it hasnt started in Aus, but will eventually. People who can HODL for few more months shouldnt be buying this just for the PSU. The 4060TI will probably be faster than this card at much lower price.
https://wccftech.com/the-gpu-flood-is-here-crypto-miners-dis…
Eventually
Coming soon
Just Wait
Hodl
I installed my 6900xt last night (cost less than this) and am glad I didn't wait. Each to their own, many should wait.
Re the 4060TI, from the little we know, release is likely Q1 2023, then you need to wait for stock. It should be similar / better than this card.
I usually have "who can HODL" in my statements, apparantly thats not you. So all good.
Anyways Congrats on your card buddy, enjoy it. Also, I didnt downvote you :)
Didn't they make claims that 3070ti's outperform 2080tis for half the price on that 1 ultra optimised for 3070 benchmark they created the PowerPoint presentation from, when they did their big announcement for 30 series? Or did my brainwashing not take effect properly and I'm incorrectly remembering the propaganda hype.
Oh and +1 for windows xp banner ad on site lol.
The claim was that a 3070 would be better than a 2080ti for less.
The price turned out to be much higher with the mining craze, but they weren't wrong about the performance ?
https://www.videocardbenchmark.net/compare/GeForce-RTX-3070-…
4060 Ti probably comes out in 2023. only 4080 and 4090 released first this year, and 4070 a bit later.
The Tee Eye usually comes late.
You can never gets the perfect bargain, just buy whatever you can afford now, otherwise you'll wait forever.
I always tell people if you buy the card (or any pc part) at the right price at the time you buy, your doing just fine (most PC part are pretty good these days). New something every week in computers, send yourself broke trying to keep up with the fomo/something you dont need.
just buy whatever you can afford now, otherwise you'll wait forever.
I disagree with that, if you're getting by on say a 1070, now is a really average time to buy. You won't wait forever, you buy the usual (non crypto) GPU cycle. You wait until about 3mo after launch, get some discount on RRP, and see if either current gen or last gen offers better value for what you want to do with it. Then 2 or 3 generations later you do it all over again. You always get a reasonable GPU, at a reasonable price.
Buying a GPU today you're still paying chip shortage prices, off the back of a crypto boom, just as cost of living is dropping demand for tech (see various DRAM/PC demand news recently). If you can wait until a few months after 4080/3070 (or AMD 7000) launches, you'll be in a better place.
Unless of course $1k isn't really much to you, then sure, having a decent 4k GPU today may be better.
$11.7 per hash bro not bad really … 5700xt for $330 should i?
No, its over, sell them all, and keep the best one so you can still play those free epic games.
What your talking about is the classic tech flush where they cut costs on last gen hardware by 40%+ and the big ones normally happen every 5 or so years but this year its time again for the BIG FLUSH.
Its the DDR5 era and alot of pc users are making that jump at the end of year so there is going to be crazy deals on both new and secondhand goods where a person on a budget can have a very good pc for under 1K :-)
As for power hungry tech coming out you will pretty much need a 1200watt psu lmao which to me sounds like pure insanity.
I completely disagree with you!
I would be 'FLUSHING' this comment!
Pure speculation!
I'm sick of reading about "these cards are gonna cost this much and you can build a whole rig for blah blah". Nobody knows what the market will be like in 6months, unless you're a time traveller with a machine dooby.
Gpu stock might be hard to find, like the case of the 30series when first released. Prices could be up or down. Mining some other crap thing might be a new phase…. who bloody knows!
Is this the LHR or non LHR version? I know the answer may be in your username but the title says LHR… Either way though it is good to see GPU prices normalising. Will be interesting to see what the 4000 series pricing is like and how it affects 3000 series pricing.
Obviously don't buy this if you're just going to play games. Get a 4060 next year
5060 going to beat 4060 hands down twice, better wait that one instead.
But it makes more sense to wait for the 6060 or 8600xt, definitely gonna thrash them.
30 series works fine for most people, just because next gen gonna be better doesn’t mean current gen bad
Agreed. Seems like a waste if you're just playing computer games.
Same as Playstatin and Xbox. What a waste people buy those just to pay games…
Your analogy would work, however you fail to take into consideration that you're still paying RRP here due to the mess that has been the last 18mo. Normally ~3mo before a new GPU lands, there has been a good 30% drop which makes the flop/$ difference to the new gen of GPU much lower.
I'm not saying your argument isn't right, it's just overlooking the unique circumstances that has impacted on this gen of GPU.
I don't see why you're pushing people so hard to buy GPUs now. Now is just not a "bargain" time. If you need a GPU, or you're flush with cash, sure. But for most of us, waiting until September to see what the 4070 holds just seems like the wiser choice.
Don't buy at RRP next year, wait another year until they're being sold off cheap for the next gen.
Then consider that gen and repeat.
Still silly prices.
Given the reality of the 4000 series coming inside 6 months, they need to be cutting these overprices. MSRP really doesn't cut it for an EoL in oversupply.
Nobody who would pay $1200 for a GPU should be buying these, it makes no sense when the 4060 will be beating these within the year, and $1200 will get you something twice the speed.
US$300-350 for a mined 3060 ti, vs $700 new. AU$440-510, plus gst and general "Australia tax", around $500-600. Considering they've been likely been mined for 12mo+ and would have a few years left, a pretty average deal.
Definitely prices coming down, no one is saying they aren't. But these prices are fairly in line with what current "new" prices.
Miners already earned multiple times what the cards worth so they'll just sell whatever the market is willing to pay.
I wonder how many miners paid tax on their earnings??? Lmao there will be a few people caught out by the ATO after june30 :-D
Yeah haha they're dreaming they'll get far less. Retailers already have to much supply this mining supply on top will be the crushing blow.
Mining cards having low life expectancy is a dumb myth perpetuated by even dumber people considering they use a fraction of the power someone gaming would.
Lol i was going to just leave it as this is an old thread. But. What the hell? Mining cards are absolutely thrashed. They sit at 100% load 24/7, often slotted in next to other cards. The only minor saving grace is occasionally they're slightly underclocked/volted, I believe for a power efficiency thing? But could be wrong there.
Otherwise your comment is just flat out nonsense.
PEAK power may be higher when gaming, but hammering a card 24/7 is much, much worse. Games typically don't run at 100% load all the time, as it would make the framerate really unstable.
@incipient: "Slightly underclocked and undervolted", mate these cards are run at as low as 40% of their powerload since the only thing really utilised is memory.
Another point to add to your delusion is that gpus/cpus are also designed to be run for long periods of time, not just the 'occasional gaming'. You really think places like server farms/data centers where these components are being run 24/7 at full power are having their systems die every year? Prosumers that do intense rendering work all the time?
There is also no measurable difference in performance from something that was used for 100 hours versus 1000 hours. Only things that'd affect performance at that point would be old paste/build up of dust, both of which you can fix easily.
@JerraJones: The more watts that are used the shorter the components life. That's basic physics.
40% load whatever lol sugar coat it all you want. They're ran 24/7. Fact is they have more mileage on them
@Jimmy77: That's basic physics? What am I even reading anymore lol, at least put more effort into trolling. A 3060 for example isn't going to live 3x more than a 3090ti just because one uses more power than the other. I'd agree if we were talking about charging batteries here but this isn't it. How long a product lives is up to the quality of the individual components used, it doesn't matter if it's 50w or 300w as both would be within spec (unless you do something like shunt modding to get more than spec power). It's why some gpus come with standard 1 year warranty while others will ship with 3-5 years (but cost more).
The truth is chip manufacturers think about all types of consumers and factors such as power, usage time, temperatures etc. when making their products.
@JerraJones: Lol current running through any component is what shortens it's life. That's basic physics. A 3090 uses components rated to the relevant values, these components themselves are already designed to take the extra stress and last the relative lifetime. that's why it won't break sooner. This is all factored into the engineering of each model. But it's basic electrical knowledge that using something degrades it every second it's running. You can't just push higher wattage though a circuit not designed for it and expect it's lifespan to be 3x less. The higher end cards need components with the appropriate values to handle that power, because it is indeed harder on the components.
Electrical components degrade every second they're running. Buy a mining card and you have much higher chance of the card failing in future. Because it's had far more current ran through it over it's life.
@JerraJones: For ICs it depends a lot on temperature. The longer something runs, and the hotter it runs, the more the "life" of the chip is "consumed".
IF a miner is running at the lowest end of this, 60deg, then honestly the card will probably be quite good. If they're running it way up to 80+deg, then no, it's going to be definitely on the way out after a few years of mining.
I can't seem to find good temp/life details currently. But I'm sure you're not debating that relationship haha.
https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/optimal-gpu-mining-temperature#!
THE EAGLE HAS LANDED!
A malnourished Eagle
A bald malnourished possibly self combusting eagle
The malnourished eagle itself wont combust, but the PSU that comes free might help with it ;)
Hmm. Had my eyes on a 3070 but this is enticing… Even if it is a Gigabyte. I have been stung before with gigabyte.