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studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 14:45 ebay.com.au (1441 clicks)
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I've been eyeing portable wood / twig stoves for the last month or so and think this one is a pretty good buy for ~$30 delivered. It's around half the price from the cheapest aliexpress sellers from what I've seen. I wanted a collapsible rocket stove but those are way out of my price range and this one is my 2nd choice.

This one is the larger 20x20cm version that can actually fit a steak or some larger snags on it, unlike the 14x14cm version.

There are cheaper ones and better ones, but not both from what I've seen (please someone link to other ones if you have good experience with them). This one appears to be made from steel that won't rust, has minimal warping from heat (will still be fully usable, just not as clean to fold open/closed or open/close the door) and can have additional twigs placed inside while there is a pot on top (not possible with some designs).

Ones to stay away from are those which are painted as they all tend to bubble or crack, potentially exposing metal underneath that can rust. There's not many online that are, but some of the cheap nasty hibachi style stoves are still painted.

Disclaimer to use common sense when using a portable wood stove such as not using when there's a fireban, making sure that it is placed on flat solid ground or a surface that can tolerate very high heat, do not ever use indoors and read up on their use and maintenance before using.

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chrisie on 04/04/2022 - 14:47

Looks very small .
OK for tiny people.
- studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 14:49
  
  It's actually on the large side for a portable / camping wood stove.
  
  The cooking surface is 20x20cm and it's 27cm tall.
miguellin737 on 04/04/2022 - 14:49

the weight of stove……..
oraserat on 04/04/2022 - 14:49 Comment score below threshold.
- studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 14:55
  
  +9
  
  This isn't to be your main stove - it's for if you want to go hiking, camping or spend time outdoors and not have to worry about carrying butane or spirits for an alcohol stove, but still cook a meal.
  
  People love wood fires when outdoors. Have you never had food over a campfire?
dogboy on 04/04/2022 - 14:55

+2

This looks like a terrible product. Too small to be of much use to anyone.
- studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 14:56
  
  It gets great reviews (look on youtube for reviews comparing this to other designs) and has a large cooking surface compared to many portable wood stoves.
crunchyhead on 04/04/2022 - 15:04

+2

They really don't help themselves with those stupidly photoshopped demonstration pics! A 20cm camp stove looks like a half sized kitchen wood stove.
No wonder ozbargainers are confused.
BewareOfThe Dog on 04/04/2022 - 15:06

Being an open flame, that cannot be used during a Fireban in NSW. I assume this would be the case in other states?
- OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 15:10
  
  +3
  
  Open flame has nothing to do with it, can't use any combustible solid fuel during a total fire ban.
  - BewareOfThe Dog on 04/04/2022 - 15:18
    
    Sorry, that's what I also meant.
armageddeus on 04/04/2022 - 15:06

Note. Painful task to remove blue film..
- mskeggs on 04/04/2022 - 16:41
  
  Adds flavor to first use!
  - studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 16:44
    
    +1
    
    Actually the tiny parts of the protective film that get stuck between the fasteners and frame burn off instantly on the first use when getting the fire started, which is well before you put food on it.
    
    Also can I ask why you think it's tiny? Do you know that the cooking area is bigger than most kitchen gas stoves, and that this is one of the larger portable wood stove designs?
    - mskeggs on 04/04/2022 - 16:59
      
      When we go camping we use half an oil drum as a fire, but that is mostly for sitting around, toasting marshmellows etc.
      Most of the cooking using pots and pans actually happens over gas.
      
      This is 20cm x 20cm. It is too small to make a good size fire, so you either need to use heat beads, or just accept you'll be adding little sticks to it every 5 mins.
      
      It seems like the worst of all worlds. Dirty and cumbersome to carry if hiking. Too small to be much use if you are car camping.
      - studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:04
        
        +1
        
        @mskeggs: 20cm x 20cm is on the large side for a portable wood burning stove. It will fit most pots or pans on it, along with steaks or other meat. It might not fit a whole fish on it, but it will fit a pan that you can fry that fish on.
        
        You will not need heat beads. Twigs will work fine (these are known as twig stoves) and if you think adding twigs every 5-10 minutes is a chore then I really don't know what to say as that's what portable twig stoves require.
        
        Here's the 14x14cm version in action and doing a heat torture test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRBVwjetXbE
        
        It appears you don't really understand the product segment. I think you should do some research into backpack friendly wood stoves as many are smaller than the 14 x 14cm version and still work great. There's many videos on YouTube that show the smaller designs working great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P28PK5m4Gj
        
        mskeggs on 04/04/2022 - 17:17
        
        -4
        
        @studentl0an: So you haven't used anything like this camping, but have seen some youtubes…
        
        Hope it goes great, or otherwise you have a good story of the trip.
        
        studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:23
        
        @mskeggs: I've used portable wood stoves, alcohol stoves and gas stoves.
        
        I linked you those videos so you could see with your own eyes that your comments are incorrect.
        
        I think you should reconsider how you chose to comment in this thread, as I think most people who have experience cooking outdoors will see your comments as very unhelpful and coming from a perspective that has no experience with portable wood stoves.
        
        I understand you want to help people, but please can you understand that in this thread your comments are doing the opposite of your good intentions?
        
        OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 17:48
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        I think most people who have experience cooking outdoors will see your comments as very unhelpful and coming from a perspective that has no experience with portable wood stoves.
        
        As someone with 30+years experience mrkeggs advice sounds like it's coming from someone who's been there and done that rather than someone who's sat there and watched that.
        
        He's giving good advice, try not being so sensitive defending a product you've never actually used.
        
        mskeggs on 04/04/2022 - 17:52
        
        @OzBragain: OzBragain you're another trouble maker!
        
        Your mention of an Auspit has me intrigued. I am thinking of a big lamb roast now out under the stars.
        
        OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 18:21
        
        @mskeggs: I love camping and bush cooking and love helping people who are starting out…and then you inevitably come across the youtube experts.
        
        Auspit is a freakin awesome product bit of kit and all Aussie made. They were about $150 for the full stainless when I bought mine around 10 years ago but have gone up a little since then. It'll take a couple of rolled shoulders no problem and you wouldn't believe how long a couple of D cells will last. I've never let them run flat but have easily gotten 30 hours from a set of batteries. Rolled pork belly is unbelievable when the crackling works out and my new favourite is pichana. Great product to take out bush but there are cheaper options if you don't need it portable.
        
        studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:53
        
        @OzBragain: 30+ years experience, yet didn't know that portable rocket stoves exist in comment below, and like ms keggs - thinks that a 4kg weight, 30cm up on a 20x20cm base will have wobble or be easy to tip? You can test this at your home right now and you'll find it's very sturdy!
        
        I think it's obvious to anyone with actual experience that your comments in this thread counter your claimed 30+ years experience as an outdoor cook - or at the most charitable show that you are not up to date with portable stoves.
        
        I know you want to be helpful to others, but like with ms keggs, I think your comments are having the opposite effect of your good intentions.
        
        OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 18:42
        
        -2
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        30+ years experience, yet didn't know that portable rocket stoves exist in comment below
        
        You have much to learn padawan, that is not what I said at all and yes, there is much I know about rocket stoves. While they look like a cool gadget in the youtube videos you've watched, please explain to me how lugging something like a rocket stove out in the bush will be an advantage? It might boil your billy 30sec quicker using sticks but how does it help with steak, sausages or bacon? Can you slow roast over a rocket stove, cook a stew or bake bread in your camp oven with a rocket stove?
        
        I think it's obvious to anyone with actual experience that your comments in this thread counter your claimed 30+ years experience as an outdoor cook
        
        What, someone with actual experience like you? People with 30+ years experience don't use little gadgets like these unless they have no other choice. These gadgets are for reheating meals or boiling water and even then this one wouldn't even do that well. This is not what I would call bush cooking.
        
        or at the most charitable show that you are not up to date with portable stoves.
        
        Yeah, I've tried many of the gadgets and most of them end up in the bin or at the back of the garage never to be used again.
        
        studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 19:21
        
        @OzBragain: How would "lugging" a light weight portable rocket stove that folds up to be around the size and weight of a small book be an advantage when it also burns cleaner and hotter than a twig stove? You can't think of why people would want that?
        
        If I was you, I wouldn't be trying to be an authority on a subject by touting years of experience. If I was in your shoes, I would just be happy to learn new things about products I obviously am not an authority on but clearly have a passion for without shooting the messenger.
        
        OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 20:54
        
        -1
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        How would "lugging" a light weight portable rocket stove that folds up to be around the size and weight of a small book be an advantage when it also burns cleaner and hotter than a twig stove? You can't think of why people would want that?
        
        A twig stove (which I own but now only use for lighting my charcoal chimney at home) and a portable rocket stove are both gadgets that I see of minimal value when car camping.
        
        Both might boiling a billy a little quicker than a campfire buy why else would I want to lug another gadget that really doesn't add value? Who cares if a rocket stove burns hotter than a twig stove, a campfire will melt glass. I suspect it's not an accident you haven't provided any other examples of why your rocket stove gadget would be useful.
        
        As you spend more time away from the internet/youtube and out in the bush you'll find that space is limited and the items that take up that said space need to be multipurpose to be of value.
        
        C'mon Mr youtube expert, please explain to my WHY I need to take up space with a portable rocket stove gadget?
        
        If I was you, I wouldn't be trying to be an authority on a subject by touting years of experience.
        
        Thank sweet baby Jesus you're not me.
        
        OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 21:59
        
        +1
        
        @studentl0an: Since you still haven't been able to give us a single reason why a portable rocket stove gadget would be beneficial for bush camping and I doubt you will, why don't we let the pictures do the talking.
        
        This is me without a rocket stove gadget. My gadgets are grill, camp oven, billy and spit.
        
        Camp grill
        Camp kettle
        Camp oven bread
        Camp oven breakfast
        Camp toaster
        Plain old boring camp sausages
        Did I mention I like pork?
        It's really tasty after 5 hours
        Goes well with roast veggies
        But veggies are only a side
        Do you like pork?
        Sunny side up?
        Does anyone else like pork?
        The cows get a look in sometimes
        …and before I had kids
        
        If you can't tell, the Auspit is my new favourite.
        
        Perhaps you'd like to share some of your camp cooking for us buddy?
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 07:19
        
        @OzBragain: If I have to explain why a portable stove is a good idea to someone who claims they have 30 years experience in outdoor cooking then it's over for you. It shows you have no idea of what you claim to have a lot of experience in.
        
        Enjoy lugging around your massive Auspit or 4KG LPG bottle in a pack.
        
        It's not like portable stoves are actually potable and are much better suited for traveling like such as hiking trips, lol!
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 07:43
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        If I have to explain why a portable stove is a good idea…It shows you have no idea of what you claim to have a lot of experience in.
        
        Ahhh the argument of someone who has no answer, no surprises there :)
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 08:26
        
        @OzBragain: "It's not like portable stoves are actually potable and are much better suited for traveling like such as hiking trips, lol!"
        
        I guess you can't read in addition to not having a clue what portable wood stoves are, what their use cases are, and are being a danger to yourself and others - yet claim to be an expert. This is all very clear for anyone to see if they read your comments. It's very sad. You would have loved this product but your pride is causing you to come across as petty, without knowledge and dangerous just because you want to win an internet argument, that you clearly can't win?
        
        Just walk away, this is not going well for you and it will potentially come back to bite you in the future. Just let people get the portable stoves that are suitable for them and let it be man. You're coming across not just as petty, but as a danger to those around them.
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 13:56
        
        @studentl0an: A lot of alarmist tripe about danger to others. Oh well, guess you'll need to experience these things for yourself to understand
        
        It's very sad. You would have loved this product but your pride is causing you to come across as petty, without knowledge and dangerous just because you want to win an internet argument, that you clearly can't win?
        
        Don't be sad. This is just a little bbq, there's not much to love. There's nothing it can do that can't be done in a fire pit with a grill. If you want to spend your money on this then go for it, I haven't and won't try and stop you. Would love to hear how you go after a dozen trips and if you're still using it regularly.
        
        Just let people get the portable stoves that are suitable for them and let it be man.
        
        Again, I haven't and won't try and stop you. This is not some high tech breakthrough, I'm not saying it won't give you somewhere to heat a billy, I'm just saying that the same thing can be achieved without this little bbq.
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 14:28
        
        @OzBragain: Setting a fire on grass is a literal hazard.
        
        The other guy saying that wood stoves give you cancer and is what actually constitutes 'alarmist tripe'. You clearly have problems processing information that makes you appear not as knowledgeable as you think you are and have to posture with terrible information to save face.
        
        I hope you can find the love, peace and happiness you clearly desperately need in your life so that in the future you would be happy to learn something new about portable stoves and discuss them, than posture up to the messenger with dangerous and terrible advice to protect your pride.
OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 15:17

If you haven't tried before, cooking over open flame isn't much fun. Too hot for most things and even something like a steak won't taste as good as cooked over coals.

If you're looking for something to use remote camping, just take a grill, build a fire and let it burn down to coals before cooking.

For boiling pots of liquid, look at something like a Solo Stove knock off. Very efficient stick burner but only lasts 10-15min before reloading if you have a lot of cooking to do.

please someone link to other ones if you have good experience with them

What sort of camping do you do and what do you intend to use the stove for?
- studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 15:22
  
  +2
  
  Mainly glamping, and a wood burner like this along with the $20 cast iron pot and pan from Aldi I think are a great combo. I already have a basic alcohol stove and kmart butane stove that work well enough for me, but wanted something that can use twigs as fuel.
  
  That's a fair point about cooking over coals - I saw a video where someone modded the bottom plate to be able to hold coals a lot better and recommended cooking bare meat that way. I intend to mostly use it with cast iron or stainless pan/pot so I'm not going to mod it out the gate, but will in the future.
  
  Do you know of any collapsible rocket stoves that are cheap (<$50)?
  - mskeggs on 04/04/2022 - 17:00
    
    Please be careful if using a cast iron pot.
    This will be unstable and dangerous with so much weight on top.
    
    Burns when camping can be very serious.
    - studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:11
      
      I really think you need to do more research on the topic as it appears you're not coming from a perspective of someone that has experience with portable wood burning stoves.
      
      The comment that it will be unstable and dangerous shows to me that you may be out of your element when it comes to portable wood stove cooking. You do know these are to be placed on the ground, right?
      - mskeggs on 04/04/2022 - 17:23
        
        @studentl0an: I've cooked with dutch ovens and cast iron pots over a fire before plenty of times (though primarily in the coals so the flames don't burn everything before it heats through).
        Putting a 4kg pot on top of a 27cm tall rickety folding bit of sheet metal will be unstable, but you do you.
        Maybe I need to get on youtube more to understand how things work in theory so I don't get mixed up.
        
        studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:30
        
        @mskeggs: Rickety? It's 20cm x 20cm with a height of 27cm. Go and find something around your house with those dimensions and put the a cast iron pot on it.
        
        You will find that it's actually very stable because of the wide base and only being 30cm off the ground. Really, go and try it and see how hard it is to tip over.
        
        Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today or something?
      - OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 17:35
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        The comment that it will be unstable and dangerous shows to me that you may be out of your element when it comes to portable wood stove cooking. You do know these are to be placed on the ground, right?
        
        Unless you're camping on a concrete footpath your ground will be uneven. Trying to cook with a cast iron pan over a 20 x 20cm gadget like this isn't going to be much fun.
        
        I'm with mrkeggs in discouraging this for your intended use. Not so much from the burns perspective but you'll ruin your meal when the whole shebang goes over.
        
        studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:42
        
        @OzBragain: Go outside and look how easy it is to find a 20x20cm flat ground patch! You can even make one with your shoe! Then for you to say that it will tip over easy despite having a wide base that will easily hold a 4kg cast iron pot on it without any wobble at all should show to others that you don't really know what you're talking about. Seriously, go and try it yourself using something of similar dimensions with a 4kg weight on top!
        
        You guys that are critical of this product appear to have no idea about the product, or the segment in general and really are grasping at straws to find issues with it.
        
        OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 18:47
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        Go outside and look how easy it is to find a 20x20cm flat ground patch! You can even make one with your shoe!
        
        Baaahahaha…even your mate in the youtube video has it sitting on a lump of concrete!!!
        
        20 x 20cm is not a wide and stable area to support a cast iron pan full of food.
        
        studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 19:15
        
        +1
        
        @OzBragain: Do you actually think grass is an appropriate place to have a fire?
        
        Seriously - if you think that placing a fire on bare grass is a good idea then I think that's all the evidence people need about your so called experience.
        
        Flat dirt (or concrete, or other suitable surface for high temperature) is. Grass will be destroyed at best, or potentially cause an out of control burn at worst.
        
        Look at the reviews here:
        https://www.amazon.com.au/REDCAMP-Stainless-Portable-Backpac…
        
        2000+ positive reviews on amazon with a 4+ star rating and that's for the smaller version.
        
        20cm x 20cm is as wide as the base of the Aldi pot and it's only 27cm up. Your hypothetical wobble is all you have left at this point and I think you need to put it to rest until you get the pot and try it yourself - because at this point for you to clutch that after all you've said would be quite sad.
        
        Look at all the people on the amazon reviews saying how good it is and consider buying one because you obviously have a passion for outdoor cooking and would have a great time with this.
        
        OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 21:26
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        Do you actually think grass is an appropriate place to have a fire?
        
        Here's a pic of me roasting some pork belly pieces showing that having a fire in grass can be appropriate if you know what you're doing.
        
        Seriously - if you think that placing a fire on bare grass is a good idea then I think that's all the evidence people need about your so called experience.
        
        Seriously (I can't believe I just said that), if you can't understand that a small cooking fire on bare grass is safe under the right conditions then you're just showing how little time you've spent away from your computer. I think we're all well aware that grass will be burned by fire but did you know that it'll grow back?
        
        Your hypothetical wobble is all you have left at this point and I think you need to put it to rest until you get the pot and try it yourself - because at this point for you to clutch that after all you've said would be quite sad.
        
        Nah champ, I've said it isn't really very good for anything. Too much flame for direct cooking and looks like it'll be a pain for using with pots and pans…much better off with LPG. I'll add to that and say that a cheery campfire beats any form of bush cooking!
        
        Look at all the people on the amazon reviews saying how good it is
        
        All those people reviewing a 2.5kg "Backpacking Stove for Hiking Camping Survival" 4+ stars. They must be doing some seriously hardcore hiking.
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 07:23
        
        @OzBragain: At this point you are being incredibly dangerous to others by showing a photo of you putting how coals directly on grass and stating that it's fine.
        
        You have a serious problem if you think telling others to place a bare fire on grass is a good idea and I think you need help - as stating your experience while advocating to put coals on grass is a danger and you really shouldn't be doing that if you had a shred of responsibility.
        
        I linked to the Amazon link that shows 4.6/5 rating after 2000+ feedback for the item. For you to say that thousands of people are wrong but you are right after all I've had to correct you on at this point is really sad and not helpful to others - it's just to protect your pride and people who see your comments will not think of you the way you think they will, but the opposite.
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 07:55
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        You have a serious problem if you think telling others to place a bare fire on grass is a good idea and I think you need help.
        
        That night was spent with an old cocky and the local RFS Captain, we had a lovely time watching the spit sizzle. We all have decades of experience and were comfortable with how safe our little cooking fire was. The grass was green and lush and the ground wet from recent rain.
        
        What I said was
        
        having a fire in grass can be appropriate if you know what you're doing.
        
        Clearly not intended for YouTube experts like yourself. Don't let that put you off, get out there and spend more time in the bush. Go with experienced campers and learn as much as you can. One day you might have some knowledge of your own to share.
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 08:16
        
        @OzBragain: Why do you keep calling me a youtube expert? It's clear to others who read both our comments that I have much more experience and knowledge with portable stoves than you, as you didn't even know some of them existed and I had to link you to them.
        
        It's like you're saying that it's fine to drove a car with completely worn break pads because your mechanic was there with you and you've done it many times before. I'd say most people would think that is a mechanic they should stay away from.
        
        Truth is that not only are you are destroying the grass, you are creating a potential fire hazard that could threaten people, the surrounding area and property.
        
        I'll be sure to link back to this thread in the future when you try giving incredibly dangerous advice to others. You are a menace and it's clear as day for most people to see it. If you cared about basic safety or even nature at all you would have put that fire on compacted dirt, put down a fireproof surface ontop that grass, or at the very least not be advocating for it as it's well known to potentially be extremely dangerous.
        
        I really think the mods should stop in and remove your comments about placing fire directly on grass - that's the point where you are potentially causing extreme harm to others on this forum who read your comments.
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 11:13
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        Why do you keep calling me a youtube expert?
        
        Because you appear have minimal real life experience.
        
        It's clear to others who read both our comments that I have much more experience and knowledge with portable stoves than you
        
        I beg to differ.
        
        It's like you're saying that it's fine to drove a car with completely worn break pads because your mechanic was there with you and you've done it many times before.
        
        Close but not quite. Good on you giving it a go though, I can see you're trying to understand.
        
        To follow on with your mechanic analogy, the above situation would be more akin to taking my car to a mechanic for a safety inspection prior to a big road trip.
        
        Once the risks have been assessed and necessary modifications made it's as safe as it can be.
        
        Truth is that not only are you are destroying the grass, you are creating a potential fire hazard that could threaten people, the surrounding area and property.
        
        No, risks were assessed and mitigated.
        
        You are a menace and it's clear as day for most people to see it
        
        Riiiight
        
        I really think the mods should stop in and remove your comments about placing fire directly on grass - that's the point where you are potentially causing extreme harm to others on this forum who read your comments.
        
        In who's opinion, yours? The reality is that there was more real life experience in the left hand of any one of the three in the group than you'll get in 5 years of watching YouTube videos. Please take your outrage elsewhere.
        
        Get out there and get some real life experience of your own, it really will do you the world of good.
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 11:22
        
        @OzBragain: The thing is though to anyone viewing our comment chain that it's obvious that I have more experience than you despite your claimed 30 years experience (maybe 30 years of terrible experience). You didn't even know about portable rocket stoves existing! I had to link you to them!
        
        You have no idea who I am yet somehow want to denigrate my position by saying all I know is youtube, despite all my comments showing clearly I understand more about portable cooking than you. To steelman your argument, even if all I did know was from YouTube - it's still a lot more than you! But the reality is that my comments clearly show to an observer that I have more actual real world experience in portable stoves and fire safety than someone who doesn't know portable stoves exist and advocates for placing fire on bare grass.
        
        Your claimed 30 years of experience is in reality 30 years of terrible experience that lead you to advocate to place bare fires on grass, and recommend carrying a 4KG LPG bottle or massive firepit as a "portable experience" rather than a very well reviewed portable twig stove that folds up to be the size of a clipboard.
        
        You're a danger to this community and I'm going to link back to this thread in the future when you give terrible advice, as others really need to see just how much of a potential danger you are to others if they listen to you.
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 14:05
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        You didn't even know about portable rocket stoves existing!
        
        I'm not sure why you keep pushing this. I suggested that rocket stoves aren't practical for general camping and after numerous requests you're still unable to provide any real world advantages to using a rocket stove (portable or otherwise) for weekend/week away camping. Thought of any yet?
        
        You have no idea who I am yet somehow want to denigrate my position by saying all I know is youtube
        
        You're very sensitive! Buddy, you've had ample opportunity to show why a mini bbq or portable rocket stove is going to be better than campfire/gas combo but we're still waiting. Here are my examples of where rocket stove/mini bbq gadgets would be next to useless. Perhaps you can offer your real world examples of how they could be better? Unfortunately all you've been able to provide are links to Youtube and Amazon reviews…hence my assumption that you have little real world experience but please, go ahead and prove me wrong!
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 14:26
        
        -1
        
        @studentl0an: You came here asking for advice on a portable rocket stove for camping and I gave you my honest opinion that a rocket stove just isn't practical for weekend/week away camping.
        
        You still haven't been able to provide any real world advantage for a rocket stove over a campfire and/or LPG gas cooker combo. The reality is that you can't and you won't because there isn't any real world case for a rocket stove in the "glamping" situation that you're referring to.
        
        If you're setting up for months and want to use it to heat loads of water, sure, there's a great reason. Rocket stove will heat up large amounts of water quick using readily available fuel.
        
        Building a cabin and want a rocket mass heater? Great, another practical use for a rocket stove.
        
        Gasifying stoves like to Solo knock off I suggested are a good compromise. They heat the uncombusted gasses and send these back as extra fuel for a clean efficient burn.
        
        You've said you're going "glamping" so I assume that'll include a vehicle hence my other recommendation of the Coleman Eventemp with a 4kg LPG bottle. LPG is much more efficient than the butane you're using at the moment. Portable in the sense that it'll fit in your car and make life easier out in the bush (someone would have to be fairly thick to want to take something like that hiking). Three burners for multiple pots/pans and includes a griddle to utilise the entire footprint as a cooking area. You don't have to go out and buy one, just a friendly suggestion.
        
        These are just suggestions, I can't understand why you're getting so wound up and offended by this. Take a big breath and calm down. In fact, most of the comments on her have suggested you look at alternatives to the product in the post. There's really nothing special, new or ground breaking with the product you've posted, it's a collapsible receptacle for holding fuel with vents and a grill…this is not a technological breakthrough, it's just a tiny bbq. You're right, I don't own this product and clearly neither do you. I have no doubt it'll hold burning sticks together just like the marketing blurb.
        
        You're a danger to this community and I'm going to link back to this thread in the future when you give terrible advice
        
        Oh the outrage!!!
        
        Explain to me please how it is that you have more knowledge on the safety of a little cooking fire than the local RFS Captain?? You've seen one photo and want to lecture me on fire safety. Think about it for a minute, even if you were to ignore me and the local cocky, RFS Captain is sitting there watching this delicious piece of pork roasting away without a care in the world knowing that our little cooking fire is totally safe. Then along comes a keyboard warrior and starts making all sorts of outlandish claims on how irresponsible and dangerous our little cooking fire is. Enlighten us all please, how is it you can asses this situation better than he?
        
        Next time I'm out that way I'll let the local brigade know of your outrage over our cooking fire and try to video their reaction for you, I think it'll be quite entertaining :)
        
        The ball's in your court, you can continue referring to youtube videos and Amazon reviews but they're not giving you any credibility. Please provide us some of your real world experience. The problem is that you just don't have enough yet and that's okay. Be happy with who you are and try not to get defensive and upset over all of this.
        
        Buy your mini bbq, take it camping and please report back to us on useful you've found it and how often it's getting used.
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 14:34
        
        @OzBragain: 2000+ reviews with a 4.6 star rating.
        
        You would have loved this product, instead you just give terrible advice to protect your pride.
        
        I guess the saying is true - "you cant teach old dogs new tricks". Old dogs are just too set in their ways to learn new things, even if they would have loved the new thing.
  - OzBragain on 04/04/2022 - 17:23
    
    Rocket stoves look cool but really can't see the benefit of lugging something like that to a campsite. I get the impression that you spend more time watching YouTube videos than you do camping (just an observation, not intended as an insult). Get out there as much as you can.
    
    I've used a grill similar to this and a couple of stainless billies for over 30 years. Much more versatile and will give better results than any of these gadgets.
    
    Campfire is also your bush TV, heater and rubbish bin.
    
    If you're cooking in a frypan then there's no difference in flavour cooking over gas or coals/flame.
    
    By all means get the gadget if you really want it (I have plenty) but the one you've posted isn't really very good for anything. Too much flame for direct cooking and looks like it'll be a pain for using with pots and pans…much better off with LPG.
    
    For 4 or more people I'd recommend a Coleman Eventemp with a 4kg bottle.
    
    FWIW the best camp cooking gadget I own is an Auspit.
    - studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:39
      
      +1
      
      Actually as you should have been aware, rocket stoves come in portable designs and have the advantage of using a duct to pull air in which makes the fire more intense (and efficient) than one without a duct. There are single piece collapsible rocket stoves which are not bulky at all, but cost a lot: https://www.virestove.com/
      
      I have a bit of experience cooking outdoors and the reason I linked to youtube videos in other comments is to show another user that their comments were incorrect. I know you don't mean it as an insult, but perhaps you could have read my other comments where I mention firepit/gas/alcohol cooking on the go rather than say that I only have experience from youtube as that would show greater observational skills on your part.
      
      Carrying an LPG bottle is not in the same product segment as a portable stove.
      - OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 14:11
        
        -1
        
        @studentl0an: Yeah buddy, I know what a rocket stove is. My question is why would realistically want to use one camping instead of a camp fire? If you want a cheap alternative, look at the gasifying Solo Stove knock off I suggested originally
        
        Carrying an LPG bottle is not in the same product segment as a portable stove.
        
        Hence why I asked what sort of camping you do. LPG is more efficient than the butane you currently use, arguably safer not much trouble to carry in your car when you go "glamping".
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 14:25
        
        @OzBragain: No I had to show you what a portable rocket stove is and everyone can see the comment above :) Maybe you're blind and very forgetful of your own comments?
        
        LPG solutions are not portable. They do not fit in a pack. This entire thread is for portable stoves.
        
        Your advice is terrible, and you keep making terrible comments.
        
        I hope you can find the love, peace and happiness you desperately need in your life so that in the future you would be happy to learn something new than posture up to the messenger with dangerous and terrible advice.
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 14:31
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        No I had to show you what a portable rocket stove is and everyone can see the comment above
        
        Some pretty wild assumptions there champ.
        
        LPG solutions are not portable. They do not fit in a pack. This entire thread is for portable stoves.
        
        LPG stoves are portable, they go in a car. Before I suggested LPG I checked your style of camping…it was not hiking or minimalist…it was "glamping".
        
        I've tried to help you out but you're clearly not ready yet…what an absolute waste of time.
        
        “Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
        
        Mark Twain
        
        I should have taken heed of your advice Mr Twain.
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 14:39
        
        @OzBragain: Wild assumptions? it's literally in the comment above what I wrote lol! I literally had to show you that portable rocket stoves exist! Maybe you're very forgetful and have terrible vision - that actually would make sense given your comments.
        
        LPG solutions are not portable they are very heavy and take up a lot of space.
        
        I know you want to have the last word and appear as though you won this argument by calling me an idiot, but mate - you're really just making yourself appear petty and pathetic.
        
        OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 15:12
        
        @studentl0an:
        
        I literally had to show you that portable rocket stoves exist
        
        Not only do you know more about fire safety than the RFS but now you also know more about what I'm thinking than I do…sheesh!
        
        How are those real world uses for rocket stove at camp coming along champ? Managed to find any on YouTube yet?
        
        studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 16:24
        
        @OzBragain: How's the terrible advice going champ? Managed to tell anyone else who asked for a portable twig stove reccomedations to put hot coals directly on the ground, or tell others to get a 4KG LPG bottle or massive firepit? You're not being helpful, you're being terrible.
        
        Don't be the rule that proves old dogs can't learn new tricks. Maybe if you read up on the hobby you seem to care about you would learn new things and not be a terrible person to others. Instead you just think your terrible experience is gospel and people should worship you for it rather than point out how terrible your advice is.
        
        2000 + reviews on Amazon with a 4.6 rating and you just want to hate on it rather than consider getting it. Pathetic that you would continue to hate on it and give terrible advice rather than learn about the hobby you incorrectly seem to think you know a lot about.
BewareOfThe Dog on 04/04/2022 - 15:21

Maybe a small butane unit with a griddle pan?
TooSerious2 on 04/04/2022 - 15:21

+1

It's double the price and slightly smaller (18cm diameter), but I like the look of this bin-style one.
I bought a cheap sheet metal chicken feeder on ali and it works fine, but it's flimsy and poorly folded. Opening and closing this stove over and over again probably isn't going to be very good for it.
Whatever you choose, enjoy. It looks like a good path to fun.
caprimulgus on 04/04/2022 - 15:54

One of these and a gas bottle will boil your kettle real good!
https://nationwideelectrical.com.au/product/high-pressure-tu…
Hinee on 04/04/2022 - 16:05

This just seems like something else to have to carry in the car and then clean off. If you can use one of these in a campground, you can surely also have an open firepit which will be limitlessly better to cook over. For anything else you're better off with gas IMO…
- studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 16:30
  
  +3
  
  Open firepit cooking utensils are much bulkier and take more time to clean off. It seems a bit strange that you went to open firepit cooking after mentioning that a portable and collapsible stove the size of a 3cm A4 thick clipboard was too much to carry in a car.
  
  Gas stoves require you to purchase gas and can run out. These are a great alternative and complement a gas stove well in areas where there is abundant dry fuel. They are different products with different use cases and it's a good idea to have both, along with an alcohol stove, if you plan on cooking outdoors often.
  
  I really don't understand why people are hating on these stoves (particularly the ones arguing they are too small when the cooking area is larger than most single stove burners). These portable wood stoves excel at what they are designed to do and this is about as cheap as you can get for one that should last a while.
  - mskeggs on 04/04/2022 - 17:05
    
    These portable wood stoves excel at what they are designed to do
    
    doubt
    
    The heat source from a gas or electric burner is not the same as from burning some wood sticks.
    The advice you're getting here is to use a bigger fire, like those provided in camp sites, or consider a gas burner if compact is important.
    
    Let us know how you get on.
    - studentl0an on 04/04/2022 - 17:16
      
      I already have portable gas and alcohol stoves. This is to complement them when there is abundant dry fuel around.
      
      I've linked you to a few videos in comments above which catalogue different portable wood burning stove designs and also show this design in action (although the smaller 14x14cm version). They really do excel at what they are designed to do.
      
      Your comments appear to have over-protective parent connotations, when you don't even understand the product segment or have experience with portable wood stoves. To me that isn't really productive discourse - it's posturing without backing and I don't understand how you could think it's helpful to others when you don't have experience with the product or even bothered to watch the videos on the topic that counter your claims.
      
      It seems as though everyone who is critical of this product, hasn't used it nor has experience with any portable wood stoves.
Hornpub on 04/04/2022 - 17:28

beware tiny size
screensaver on 04/04/2022 - 20:51

+1

I just bought the smaller cheaper version on the weekend, essential to add to my doomsday kit. I got one with an optional alcohol plate. Nuclear winter is a real possibilty so have to think ahead. Even learning how to male paper brickettes for fuel.
oraserat on 05/04/2022 - 08:33

I tried to alert people to the dangers of wood burning yesterday. For some reason the moderator quashed my comment. My opinion is that this was unwise and unnecessary. If people don't already know, wood burning is a major cause of pollution and it produces many carcinogens. That means people exposed to wood fires suffer a higher incidence of lung cancers and respiratory illness. Burning wood with our current parlous global warming situation is adding to the problem. People need to be aware of this and think globally. Please "Messrs Moderators" don't quash posts that are in the interest of the world!
- studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 08:37
  
  It wasn't moderators, you can click on the votes tab and see that 18 community members downvoted you.
  
  People don't agree with your fear mongering or alarmist tripe. I think it's very apt that you gave an article from The Guardian with your stance.
  
  For you to say that people will get lung cancer or it's killing the planet because they are making a wood fire while on a hike or camping is fear mongering alarmist BS.
  - oraserat on 05/04/2022 - 09:45
    
    thanks for your comment and elucidation re the comment.
    Let's say "some people" don't share my views.
    Not sure what you are a student of to talk in these terms and behalf of everyone. If you truly are a student you will understand that knowledge is power.
    Thanks for your world view.
    Maybe people can make their own enquiries and decide for themselves rather than you talking for them. If you have evidence to refute what is published in scientific and medical journals, please provide it rather than slanging insults.
    Thanks again
    - studentl0an on 05/04/2022 - 10:29
      
      We are deciding for ourselves, hence the 18 downvotes to bury your comment by the community.
      
      If you wanted a positive response to your portable stove alarmism, perhaps consider commenting on The Guardian forums rather than a bargain website. I'm sure you'll get the echo chamber response you're after there.
chrisie on 05/04/2022 - 17:29

+1

Hey Mods ,
I think we have heard enough Crap on this deal.
Time to retire this one as it has turned very personal.
Cheers
- OzBragain on 05/04/2022 - 17:55
  
  +1
  
  Yeah, I'm done. Well off topic and becoming nonsensical.
  - chrisie on 05/04/2022 - 19:47
    
    Yes - Good idea >>>>
screensaver on 07/04/2022 - 01:30

Keep in mind that in a real emergency, there will be no LPG, butane. charcoal, alcohol etc available, so a wood stove is a must to have as an alternative. It may save your life
- yokel on 08/04/2022 - 07:28
  
  What about regular people who have 9kg LPG bottles for their BBQ? Suppose that could run a burner for a while.

This was posted 2 years 7 months 4 days ago, and might be an out-dated deal.

Portable Wood Stove $30.59 ($29.87 with eBay Plus) Delivered @ Sello-Products eBay

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