Cheapest full sized desktop replacement laptop i could find.. everything else at that price was slow ass Atom CPU junk with 10" screens
CPU info here … http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-B815-Notebook-Pro…
ITS a Celeron Sandy Bridge based CPU… FYI Sandy Bridge is almost at its END OF LIFE! being replaced by Ivy Bridge from now on.. so its kinda OLD tech now days.
FREE - Pickup! for those who want to avoid the delivery cost
such as?.. things that cost $100 more really don't give you much more! you need to spend at least $550 for a laptop with a better graphics card! that CPU is more then enough for anything your going to do with a integrated Intel GPU
And this would not be for you… It's a laptop for people to do office tasks / web browsing, where CPU power is pretty much irrelevant.
The only concern I have with it is the 2GB of RAM, but you can get a 4GB SODIMM stick for $20, so it's still an extremely cheap laptop for most purposes.
Did you just make up "Sandy Bridge" there? I am not a CPU specialist but did not think this one is Sandy Bandy
CPU info here … http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-B815-Notebook-Pro…
ITS a Celeron Sandy Bridge based CPU… FYI Sandy Bridge is almost at its END OF LIFE! being replaced by Ivy Bridge from now on.. so its kinda OLD tech now days nothing special so at
So many bridges to cross..Will we ever reach our destination?
We do not want to reach our final destination
Yes. Tacoma Narrows Bridge would be intel's last codename for cpus.
For normal use this is not a bad price, I think. If you use it for office use, you may not notice the difference with better graphics or more high-end CPU.
What rot .. Sandy bridge isn't worth owning? and its so OLD you have to capitalize it?
The difference between the two is negligible for the most part in desktops, though the power savings for any mobile device are indeed worth having.
Great value for a basic home/work PC. Good for internet & word processing, even some music and vid watching. Can't argue with it.
Disposable Laptops have arrived!
It's tempting to buy just so I can say I bought a brand new laptop for $300!
Comes with a full blown COPY of windows 7 ($99)…how do they make money on these things!
Someone obviously hadn't used Win 7 yet
Yuck. Give me DOS anyday. Command line interface FTW.
MrZ, firstly, I don't know of any advantages of XP over Windows 7 as long as you've got enough RAM. Secondly, if you can show a laptop with the same specs and Windows XP for $100 cheaper I'll certainly be interested. If not, your comment is pointless.
Use it once and throw it away at this price!
Celeron…big no no for me…I would personally spend some more to buy at least an i3.
The CPU isn't too far off an ultrabook i3…
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i3-2367M-Notebook-Pr…
Celeron has a bad name but the current gen is pretty good.
Celeron's just branding these days, its a Sandy and is more than enough for most users.
My mum's still happily using a TurionX2, can browser the web, can use word, can skype. What else do you need.
Hell its less than 300 bucks.
I consider myself a computer enthusiast/power user and have been using a modest Core2Duo 2.26ghz machine for 4 years now, which is running fine for my needs and no problems or inclination to replace for some time. All the money I have saved on upgrading has allowed me to buy ancillary devices such as smart phones, tablets, games console, etc.
Maybe just replace your power supply. Those things can use heaps of power unnecessarily the older they get. I think it's something like 10% compounding wastage a year.
Yes, the way power bills are soaring this is a good idea. My PSU was changed 2 years ago after it exploded but admittedly I got the cheapest unit at the time, not the most power efficient :P
You get a decent i3 for about 400-450 from Dell DFO.
Yeah, but an i3 would make bugger all difference for most people, meanwhile this is 25-30% cheaper.
It's so cheap, who cares if tech is old. Your 'ivy bridge' will be considered old by the time you finish reading my comment #justseriouslyjoking
$319.90 on eBay with the extra 2GB RAM upgrade included. Add the RAM to this deal and you come to $317. So it's $2.90 off basically.
Google is not kind to this machine. I agree with most pay a few more and get heaps better machine
The problem with the CPU is not its "OLD" Sandy Bridge core but ITS CLOCK @ 1.6G WITH 1.5MB of CACHE. This cpu is marginally faster than an Atom dual-core but a lot slower than a B950/i3-330M which makes it struggle to even do some of the basic tasks (loading a complicated flash web page for example). Please do check the benchmarking before purchasing. I noticed this offer from centrecom a few days ago but I still recommend you to pay $399 for the i3 model from them if you are into entry laptops.
nvm.
NO IDEA WHAT YOUR ON About… The performance is at the same level as a
Intel Core i3 2367M
Intel Core 2 Duo T6570
ATOM is not even 30% as fast as either of those two or is it anywhere as fast as this CPU in THIS laptop
See link.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Celeron-B815-Notebook-Pro…
The link you provided only shows ONE benchmark results. If you want more you can go to cpu-world.com and compare this one with the entire i3 mobile lineup. This may look like a cheap price for a laptop but you gotta understand what you are paying for.
Alas, cpu-world.com doesn't have benchmarks for Atom processors so it's difficult to confirm your 'marginally faster' claim.
My bad, it actually has 2M of L3 Cache.
http://ark.intel.com/products/63919/Intel-Celeron-Processor-B815-(2M-Cache-1_60-GHz)
But my point still stands.
No it doesn't. These days CPUs are rarely classed by their clock speeds and their cache sizes. There are many other factors that play into it.
The CPU that comes with this is much faster than Atoms, and I should know.
Depends by what you mean by "complicated flash web page", if you mean something like multiple pages with 1080p videos then yes otherwise it should be more than adequate for web browsing.
Don't let the Celeron badge fool you, this specific CPU is much better than any Atom out there. On synthetic CPU benchmarks it scores about 2x more than a 2.13Ghz Atom and about 3x more than a regular 1.6 dual core Atom. It is even faster than fist gen Core 2 Duo 2.0+ GHz chips, which IMO are more than capable of handling your day-to-day computing tasks even now.
Agreed!
No longer are we in the days when celeron was side by side with p2/3s. I guess some ppl still cling to the rep it gained as a budget cpu back then when their perf were beyond poor…
Celeron is not too shabby these days. Still budget tho! :-)
I used to tease my friend because his family could only afford a Celeron PC when everyone else was running P3/4s. Nowadays, the gap has closed considerably between the budget Celeron processors and the entry level "flagship" Intel processors(pre :pentium, currently :i3/5/7). These days, I would absolutely use a Celeron if it fulfilled my computing requirements.
People's memory must be really bad if they have negative recollections of Celeron. Celeron had a great reputation shortly after it came out. Covington was crap because it had no L2, but Mendocino (300A and 333) were almost as fast the Pentium 2 of the era, at about half the price. They also had full-speed on die L2, whereas the P2 at the time had half-speed L2.
It depends on the generation. So they started good, then began to suck and now they are good again. All is right with the world for budget computing:)
I know it's not the old junk Celerons but it's definitely not close to the B9xx / i3 cpus.
Your own suggestion of cpu-world has it 15-25% off of the B950. I agree it's not the same, but it's worlds apart from the 100% difference to the Atom CPUs. I don't see why you'd think it'd have problems with flash heavy pages.
Dont think the neg is valid, this might fit someones purpose (Laptop for parents etc)
$288 with free delivery would be a goer
So your gonna miss it over $19? maybe they have pickup?
My problem is that i can turn left.. walk for 10 minutes, be on the beach then start swimming towards africa directly.
Google maps reckons the hawthorn store about 3444km to the right of me.
Retailers in the eastern states reckon "wa" means "wait awhile"
$288 delivered would be a bargain
cheers and thank you anyway,
Sorry to hear that you guys are getting a raw deal out in poor, old WA. I guess you ain't all rich miners and millionaires despite the stereotype.
This is cheap and is much better value compared to the current crop of AMD C-50 and AMD E-300 series notebooks that they sell at Dickies for around $300.
According to Notebookcheck, this Celeron is about 2x faster than an AMD E450 (at Cinebench).
I pity da fool who buys one of those amds (netbook class cpu in notebook shell)…
sub-optimal specs in a bloated shell :P
This is $32 cheaper after postage than orangeit $339. Saves you some dough for something else.
Like pizza maybe?
Chips as topping anyone?
and using voucher code Ty4GH you can get a free 1.25ltr of coke.
Now you post this deal! I just bought one of those C-60 netbooks for $240. Would have gone with this one even if just for bigger screen!
How do todays celerons compare to ones from laptops two years ago?
My ex's laptop had one. It took 3 minutes to load puzzle quest. Which is a 2D game with assumedly minimum sys requirements. Was so painful to use I couldn't hack it.
Shouldn't be a problem for this CPU. It might lag a little due to the somewhat slow integrated graphics.
I know what you mean by 'painful'. About 3yrs ago my ol' man bought a celeron laptop for around $450 & brought it home & got me to set things up (remove bloatware), while using it was so slow I wanted to literally pull a hissy fit…also the preloaded vista on it did not help! We returned it to get a top C2D model at the time for a little more.
But to answer ur question: I think it would be alright for productivity apps & some mid res photoshop.
A common problem from a few years back was Vista notebooks with 1GB or less RAM. In which absolutely everything was slow as hell, as Vista needed at least 1GB all to itself, let alone for other programs.
If you can tell us the model of the notebook and/or it's CPU we could tell you more.
Yup, I blame Vista, 100%. Should have wiped it and installed XP. XP has no problem even on a Pentium III CPU, and 1GB RAM. Very good OS.
T1600 CPU I think.
I upgraded the ram in it. I think she had 3 or 4gb in the end. It was a vista machine. Felt much faster for the extra ram, but still too painful for me.
I un-bloated the manufacturer apps as well. Can't recall if that was a full windows re-install or just an uninstall of junk.
Should have been OK with a T1600. Not fast or anything, but it wouldn't cause a flash game to take ages to load. A more likely culprit is the HDD.
I'm looking at notebookcheck… seems it's +25% cpu.
But her T1600 feels notably slower than my SU7300 (2gb, win7, 5400rpm hdd) which is why I thought it was the CPU
Not convinced it's the HDD but its possible. My su7300 had a mechanical hdd at the time, and I've upgraded mine to an SSD.. which has made it faster but nowhere near as fast as upgrading my i3 with an SSD. So presumably the SSD flicked the bottleneck back to the CPU.
Could just be the OS?
Yeah, it's definitely odd. Maybe not the HDD. It's something you'd have to test the balls off of.
A switch to XP or 7 could fix it too. Or simply a reinstall of Vista. We're really just wildly hypothesing here :P
Any chance that you might know which Celeron? 2 years ago might be the tailend of the Core or Core 2 based Celerons, which shouldn't have been that bad. I had a CULV based Celeron U2300 which was a capable CPU and did all the basics fairly well, didn't do any gaming on it though. Also, how much ram did you have, sometimes the bottle neck isn't with the CPU but ram, hdd and graphics. For a two year old budget system, I am guessing 1GB was probably the norm, and with Vista and the mandatory bloatware, 1GB is not where near enough.
See my new reply above :)
Not bad. I might have picked one up if I haven't just bought a laptop.
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don't you people have anything better to do???
good deal.
I like computers. I like talking about computers. Do I have better things to do? Technically, yes. Things I'd prefer to be doing? No, not really :P
Same here, brother.
sand gets in everywhere
Anakin?
Is Windows Media Center (record from TV tuner etc) included in this version of Windows(Home Premium). Seems to suggest Yes here http://windows.microsoft.com/en-au/windows7/products/compare but I am sure when I checked a year or 2 ago that the low end Win7 versions did not have it. Has something changed?
What are people thoughts on using this as a media center PC connected via HDMI
yes Windows Media Center comes free with Windows 7 Home Premium
perfect mother day gift
But no store in NSW to pick up
no excuse not to own a laptop
SOLD OUT
OZ Bargained lol
do you guys think it is easily upgrade to more powerful CPU such as:
Intel Core i7 2630QM (2GHz/Mobile) or
Intel Core i5 2520M (2.5GHz/Mobile) in the future?
they uses same PGA988 socket?
The average user wouldn't notice any difference…
Why not put a SSD in there… that will see the biggest performance boost.
the question is whether it is upgradable?
was thinking of changing the CPU when/if I feel it's too slow :P
It might be possible, but it's not something I'd rely on.
Hot damn, sold out very quickly. I'm glad I was able to resist the temptation to buy one purely based on price when I don't need it. Hope that you guys who wanted it got in quick. The silent vultures ripped this deal apart!
Does anyone know if I can claim GST back if travelling overseas based on the total which is above $300? So in short, can I claim GST on the shipping cost?
Pretty sure the answer is no. Ask centrecom to chuck in another 2gb ram to bring it just over 300 so you can claim it then. They are pretty good at amendin orders and issuing new invoices.
No, but you can buy something else to bring your total up to $300 like a mouse or ram upgrade or whatever and then you can claim your ~$28 back.
All is not lost guys,(and girls), the HP 630 (B2Y20PA) with the faster i3 processor and 500 gb hdd is still available for $399; here http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/b2y20pa-b2y20pa-p-57088.… …. be quick!
this is hardly a bargain
My HP died on me after 1 year 1 month =(!
Didn't get an extended warranty.
older HP's were not very good QTY .. the new 32nm Sandy bridge ones with Sandy bridge intel motherboards run much cooler and should last much longer
13 months and dead. You should buy yourself a lottery ticket!
I would spend an extra 100 bucks and get something semi decent.