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Ten AAA LSD NiMH Batteries, Panasonic Evolta Brand, $30 Delivered

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Ten AAA LSD NiMH Batteries, Panasonic Evolta Brand, $30 Delivered
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LRuss on 21/04/2012 - 17:55 junglejumble.com.au (1288 clicks)
Last edited 22/04/2012 - 11:24

JungleJumble are offering ten AAA LSD NiMh batteries, Panasonic Evolta brand (similar to Eneloops, Panasonic now own Sanyo), for $27.50 plus $2.50 shipping = $30 delivered.

JungleJumble rep made the offer in this deal, as a reply, at about 3PM Saturday: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/68348

There are conditions:
It's live now and offer valid for 7 days or 100 sales, whichever comes first
And the website will only let you purchase one pack (ten batteries).

Edit: added NiMh to title and description, fixed tags
Edit: offer now increased to 100 sales, thanks JungleJumble, expected to sell out today

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  • Lukian on 21/04/2012 - 18:22
    +4

    Purchased. Really wish you had Google Checkout as an option, dislike having to sign up to every site I buy things on!

    Ozbargainers - if you didn't know - LSD = Low Self Discharge!

      • Alzori on 21/04/2012 - 18:26
        +28

        I didn't. Was trippin' when I saw that.

        • spinferno on 23/04/2012 - 09:17
          +1

          The walls are melting again!!

      • Lukian on 21/04/2012 - 18:27
        +2

        @spawnpoint, See above

        They've also neglected to mention these are NiMH batteries! (except in the description on their website)

        I want to buy two packs, but let's see how many Ozb's are after deals on LSD AAA's!

        • Russ on 21/04/2012 - 18:37
          +1

          Thanks Lukian, I also forgot to put NiMh in the title of this deal!

          Fixed now.

    • Cluster on 21/04/2012 - 19:37
      +5

      LSD = Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds :-)

      • ozAzn on 21/04/2012 - 23:32

        LSD -> Love of my Son and Daughter.

        Remembered from Marge Simpson graduating from parent school [?] and trying to say the kids from Flanders' Baptism!

      • StewBalls on 21/04/2012 - 23:42
        +3

        LSD = Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds :-)

        The Shatner version is the definitive rendition of this classic! :p

  • Lukian on 21/04/2012 - 18:40

    These will go nicely with the myriad of led push lights around the house. Not that I've ever had the batteries go flat in one, haha!

  • Russ on 21/04/2012 - 18:59

    This is my first post, and it took me several edits to figure out how to tag correctly. Apparently multiple tags have to be separated by a comma, whitespace won't do. How do I get the OzB "Tagging Guidelines" updated to say this?

    • GreenGuava on 21/04/2012 - 19:04

      Try posting in Talk With A Mod, though to be fair, it's not called a "comma-separated list" for nothing ;)

    • chansthename on 21/04/2012 - 19:08

      In the tag box it states that the list is comma separated.

      • Russ on 21/04/2012 - 19:41

        Hmm, not when I do it. I just tried editing this page, and all it says is "Please check Tagging Guidelines on how to properly tag a deal. You should use no more than 5 tags to describe this offer."

        Searching for the word "comma" shows that word does not exist on the edit page nor on the "Tagging Guidelines" page.

        I've found the "Comments/Feedback/Suggestions Thread", I'll post a message there. Thanks!

        • camelgrass on 22/04/2012 - 06:07
          +1

          Russ,

          If the "Tag" text box is empty, you will see inside the box (in light grey text) instructions regarding comma separated values. If you click in the text box then the light grey text will disappear.

        • Russ on 22/04/2012 - 08:58
          +1

          Ah, thanks for that, I missed it the first time I entered a tag, and then couldn't find it when I was editing the tags because I didn't delete everything.

  • altomic on 21/04/2012 - 19:07

    LSD - pounds, shillings & pence

  • ahoyhoy on 21/04/2012 - 20:43

    i came to this post to see the commi post from the junglejumble rep (YOU BUY NOW) (no soup for you come back one year) Dissapointment is a friend of mine

  • Thrawn on 21/04/2012 - 20:47
    +4

    Hobby King got Turnigy AAA LSDs. 26 for $30 delivered (my package came from Singapore)

    A lot cheaper.. I did a break-in cycle on my Maha charger and got about 850 mAh, which is pretty good.

    • z00m on 21/04/2012 - 22:30

      Can I use my eneloop charger to charge the Turnigy's?

      • Steptoe on 22/04/2012 - 07:05

        yes, both are NiMH

  • skysky on 21/04/2012 - 20:55
    +4

    One big difference is that the Panasonic eVoltas are made in China, vs Made in Japan for the eneloops.

  • [Deactivated] on 21/04/2012 - 20:59

    AAA LSDs should only cost around $1 to produce each…

    There are some japanese brands like enitime, (dx) which are roughly $2 each.

    AA LSDs on the other hand, well they are naturally more expensive.

    • Steptoe on 22/04/2012 - 07:05

      production cost would be nowhere near $1, else they'd be $10+

    • netsurfer on 22/04/2012 - 10:26

      If you prefer cheaper ones, get them from Hobby King (80 cents each, shipping extra though).

      $2.50 shipping cost for this deal is very good - if I were to post 10 of these personally, AusPost would charge me at least $6.50.

      • Steptoe on 22/04/2012 - 12:05

        $8.99 for 2kg as a shipping option from Hobby King now.

  • PlayDis on 21/04/2012 - 21:00

    is LSD a drug? :P
    lolz

  • Savabuck on 21/04/2012 - 21:21

    I haven't used these before. Can anyone please tell me what type of charger you need?

    • skysky on 21/04/2012 - 21:35

      Just any standard NiMH Charger.

      • Savabuck on 21/04/2012 - 21:38

        Thanks skysky

  • chyawala on 21/04/2012 - 21:42

    With 1500 recharges that's enough AAA's to last a lifetime.

    • Cluster on 22/04/2012 - 11:55
      +1

      NiMH batteries deteriorate with age and are affected by fast charging (which most people do). Total battery capacity falls as the cell ages. The only realistic way of getting 1500 charges with a similar capacity to that printed on the label is to use up the estimated recharge cycles quickly (over a few years, not decades) and to use slow charging.

  • supersabroso on 21/04/2012 - 22:24

    Wow, pretty good deal, but sooo many batteries haha where are you going to use them all?

    EDIT: I don't care, this is too cheap haha. Bought one.

  • Zero on 21/04/2012 - 22:48

    Does anyone know how these compare to Eneloop?
    (Except the China VS Japan bit, 800mAh VS 750mAh and 1600 VS 1500.)

    • netsurfer on 21/04/2012 - 23:20
      +2

      According to the following Japanese site, Eneloop (made in Japan) holds charges better. In fact, it seems to indicate Evolta cannot actually hold 80% charge after 1 year (only managed 40%). Eneloop also sustained higher voltage (1.2V) longer.

      http://www.gakitama.com/juudev/evolta.htm

      I cannot read Japanese (so used google translate and only looked at bits and pieces).

      In short, based on the report, Eneloop batteries are better. But, then again, that's a Japanese site.

      • theguru1 on 22/04/2012 - 01:06
        +1

        Strange that after the report people are still buying the Evolta batteries.

        • Russ on 22/04/2012 - 01:22
          +2

          It's the internet - don't trust anything until LOTS of people say it.

          Even then, it could be sockpuppeting.

        • StewBalls on 22/04/2012 - 12:05

          It's the internet - don't trust anything until LOTS of people say it.

          Agreed. However, if I may, I would like to amend that to "It's the internet - don't trust anything until LOTS of RELIABLE people say it."

          Many internet communities & forums are like a bloody bunch of old fishwives!!! ;)

      • Store Repjunglejumble @ JungleJumble on 22/04/2012 - 08:45

        This link relates to a 2008 product comparison. The new Panasonic Evolta range was only released in January 2012. The New Evolta batteries offer similar if not better specifications than the Eneloop.

      • netsurfer on 22/04/2012 - 09:49
        +1

        That was just 1 report. I was hoping to find more reports. It is certainly weird that Evolta did not hold charge properly after 4 months.

        Anyway, there is another Japanese report: http://www.kansai-event.com/kinomayoi/battery3/NiMH_EVOLTA.h…

        It shows a better result after 2 months (87.3%). However, the % figure is not the best indicator (as it can be manipulated somewhat) - Evolta quoted a higher max mA value so it is harder to sustain that amount of charge for a longer period - still, the result does not beat Eneloop.

  • BonVivantSyd on 21/04/2012 - 23:22

    bought one

    • digitalaxon on 21/04/2012 - 23:35
      +1

      This is the charger I have and use it to do all my charging - its a fantastic charger (recommend accessing the user guide to really understand all its features/capabilities before buying)

      http://protog.com.au/maha-powerex-mhc9000-wizardone-aaaaa-ba…

      You can probably get it slightly cheaper on ebay but I bought mine locally from protog so if it ever failed (I've had cheaper DSE / ALDI chargers fail within 6 months) was easier to get it fixed.

      Just bought a set of batteries (this deal) as well but noticed website says my account does not exist although I did purchase something from them last year (Sanyo Eneloop 8x AA NiMh Rechargable battery pack (AUSTRALIAN STOCK - NOTE CLEAN UP AUSTRALIA DONATION)).

      • Russ on 22/04/2012 - 01:20

        I agree with your choice of charger, it's excellent, and Protog were really fast sending it to me. I only wish that charger did C and D cells as well! I see that Protog now has a Maha charger which does AAA, AA, C and D cells, but not 9V (no real loss), and it's almost twice the price. Oh well, I've already done my dough, I'll have to make some adaptors or something.

        I also had the same problem with JungleJumble, they forgot who I was, and I bought the same Eneloop deal. I don't think I had to sign up for that one, though, because whenever I sign up to a site I send myself an email with the password, so I can "remember" it later. I didn't do that for JungleJumble, so perhaps signing up wasn't needed for that deal?

        • Steptoe on 22/04/2012 - 07:14
          +1

          MH-C808M $110 delivered
          http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/330720629597

          What uses C's and D's these days anyway. Get the adapters for those limited applications. Big torches are so last century :p

        • Russ on 22/04/2012 - 09:03
          +2

          I'm just imagining a security guard hitting a thief over the head with an AA torch……

          Seriously though, there are some applications where AA batteries just don't cut it. Like when you want your portable stereo/boom box to last for more than two hours.

        • StewBalls on 22/04/2012 - 11:35

          I'm just imagining a security guard hitting a thief over the head with an AA torch……

          Hey, if the thief pulls out a wicked dolphin blade like this: http://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/32031 then the guard would have no choice but to use the excessive force of a AA; or heaven forbid AAA; torch! :)

          Smithers: "What are you doing sir?"
          Mr Burns: "I'm giving you the thrashing of a lifetime!"

        • Tetchy on 22/04/2012 - 16:25

          A fellow WP advised the following charger http://www.expressbattery.com.au/Rechargeable-Batteries/Fast…

          With cheap p&h you should save a few dollars; & with "eneloops" the analyzer function is likely redundant.

        • Russ on 22/04/2012 - 16:47

          Thanks Tetchy, but I'm not sure it would work correctly. I've read that the charging rate has to be at least C/2 for fast chargers to correctly detect the -dV/dT point for charge termination, and with 9Ah D-cells, that would be 4.5A - higher than your charger can do.

          I already trickle-charge my D-cells anyway, it's just annoying to do. I use C/30 (300mA for my 9Ah batteries) for 48 hours. I set an alarm on my phone so I don't forget and leave them on charge permanently.

      • wfdTamar on 22/04/2012 - 08:39

        Protog have the Maha MH-C9000 on ebay now free shipping (ends soon). $79.95. They also have Eneloop AAA's.

        On ebay found new model Eneloop's $22 for 8, $25 for 8 glitter. Be careful not to buy the Lite version (lower capacity).

  • hewell on 22/04/2012 - 03:36
    +2

    I bought 12 eneloop AAA on ebay for 30 USD posted.
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Genuine-SANYO-eneloop-4-AAA-Ni-M…

    • camelgrass on 22/04/2012 - 09:18

      That's a bargain considering some are suggesting Eneloops are superior to Evoltas.

    • wfdTamar on 22/04/2012 - 09:20

      Those ones are the Lite version - 550 vs 850mAh for the normal ones.

    • Tetchy on 22/04/2012 - 19:39

      From the identification code these appear to be the original 1,000 cycle version. A & B revisions increase cycles to 1,500 & 1,800; and also improve on LSD.

      Still a good buy, however!

  • wreckedandjealous on 22/04/2012 - 09:47

    is it best to get these, or wait to eneloops are back on special again?

    • netsurfer on 22/04/2012 - 10:04
      +1

      There are not enough reports comparing the two at the moment.

      So based on the two reports (which one does seem weird - let's give Panasonic the benefit of doubt for the moment), if you generally use the batteries several months after you charge them, eneloops are safer.

      If you use them within 1 month after they were fully charged, then Panasonic ones are fine.

      • Store Repjunglejumble @ JungleJumble on 22/04/2012 - 10:46

        Those reports are old hat, based on 2008 battery chemistry. The new Evolta's have similar discharge specs at 80% after 1 year, higher recharge cycles 1600 v's 1500 and similar mAh power on AAA and higher on AA. Adding to this, Panasonic's recent acquisition of Sanyo has lead to numerous suggestions the chemistry may be shared or very similar between the two brands.

        There is a user review started 28/3 http://budgetlightforum.com/node/8963 comparing 6 different LSD batteries, judging by the figures to date the Evolta has faired extremely well.

        Other interesting reads
        http://budgetlightforum.com/node/8963

        • Tetchy on 22/04/2012 - 16:34

          I understood that a second revision of standard eneloops refer to 1800 cycles; and improved longevity? Perhaps check WikiP!

          From memory new C & D cells are available too, in Japan initially.

        • netsurfer on 22/04/2012 - 17:11
          +2

          To junglejumble, the link you posted only shows that Evolta can reach a higher mA value once fully charged. That's not news (even the Japanese sites showed that).

          The issue here is how well the batteries hold the charge after a long period of time. The user review you provided showed nothing on that. Bear in mind that Eneloop Pro (much higher max mA) has worse charge retention value than Eneloop (non-Pro). Sanyo is basically saying high mA makes it harder to keep the charge.

          Not saying Eneloop batteries are better in every aspect - even the first Japanese review showed areas where Evolta are better. It is just charge retention, Eneloop appears to be better (again, not enough reviews to really justify that statement).

          As for Panasonic buying Sanyo, it probably has little to do with LSD batteries, more to do with Sanyo having large Lithium Ion battery contracts with various companies.

          Once my orders of Evolta, Eneloop and el-cheapo brand LSD batteries arrive, I will do my own tests.

        • camelgrass on 23/04/2012 - 12:47

          The newest Eneloops have 1800 recharge cycles and also better power retention then any previous Eneloops or current Evoltas. They appear to be only available in Japan though:

          http://panasonic.net/sanyo/news/2011/10/06-1.pdf

          I agree with you regarding the Panasonic vs Sanyo thing. Both companies still actively develop and market different LSD battery brands (at least for now). It's more of a strategic investment move for Panasonic regarding its aquisition of Sanyo.

    • naira on 22/04/2012 - 10:08

      I don't recall seeing an Eneloop AAA on special. DSE had only AA on special.

    • camelgrass on 22/04/2012 - 10:17
      +3

      If you only need 8 batteries, consider these AAA Eneloops for $22.00:
      http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/8-Genuine-SANYO-Improved-Eneloop-…

      Highly rated eBay seller, but you'll prob. have to wait around 3 weeks for delivery from HK.

      Link thanks to wfdTamar.

  • StewBalls on 22/04/2012 - 11:41

    Thanks to Russ for publicising the deal for those not watching in the other thread; and of course to JungleJumble for offering it!

    I just have one question about using my Evoltas, how many will I need, and exactly where will I have to insert them, in order to take on that smartass little robot in the Ironman Triathlon??? :o

  • pork chop on 22/04/2012 - 19:39

    Purchased. Thanks.

    Just hope DS will have those glitter AAs on specials again soon.

  • ironpaw on 23/04/2012 - 11:49

    Im trying to buy these but I can't seem to get free shipping?

    • Russ on 23/04/2012 - 12:13

      They didn't have free shipping, it was always $2.50. They must have increased the price of the batteries.

    • camelgrass on 23/04/2012 - 12:15

      Shipping is $2.50. Price for Evoltas is supposed to be $27.50.

      They sneekingly upped the price by $2.50.

  • Russ on 23/04/2012 - 12:11

    JungleJumble have increased the price to $30 plus $2.50 shipping = $32.50, so I'd say they have reached their limit of 100 sales. I've marked this deal as "expired" because of the price increase.

    Still not a bad price though, at $32.50 delivered, if that is the normal price.

    • camelgrass on 23/04/2012 - 12:23

      It still says OZB Special in description so should still be OzB deal price.

      • ironpaw on 23/04/2012 - 12:50

        Yeah well I added it to my cart, but when I check out it wants to charge 2.50 for shipping?

        So is it free shipping or not rep?

  • Duff5000 on 23/04/2012 - 16:15
    +1

    Are these really that good of a deal for $30 when you can get 10 LSD 800mah for $14 delivered?

    http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewitem.asp?idp…

    • Russ on 23/04/2012 - 23:29

      Those batteries look very tempting.

      Anyone tested them to see how good they are, and did you use them in something that really needs the low self-discharge, like a remote control?

      Also, how long did delivery take?

      • Duff5000 on 24/04/2012 - 00:34

        There are a heap of positive customer reviews on that page at the bottom. I haven't purchase from there myself yet (need to find a charger first).

        Someone else here recommended these guys in another thread.

  • Store Repjunglejumble @ JungleJumble on 23/04/2012 - 16:17

    Deal was originally for 50 and upped to 100…I did post 22/04/2012 - 09:34 that the deal would sell out as stock was limited.

    • Blackrose on 30/04/2012 - 15:58
      +3

      What stock?
      Did you have any at all to begin with?

  • Store Repjunglejumble @ JungleJumble on 23/04/2012 - 16:24

    Thanks Russ for updating.

  • netsurfer on 25/04/2012 - 19:03
    +1

    When will the orders be processed?

  • Blackrose on 30/04/2012 - 15:49
    +3

    hmmm selling items you don't have in stock?
    Last time I'll ever deal with this dodgy mob!

    • netsurfer on 30/04/2012 - 19:52
      +2

      Wouldn't suprise me if my other orders from overseas arrive first (those order have at least posted - this one is still sitting in "processing" status).

      • StewBalls on 01/05/2012 - 02:33

        Yep, I've had an ebay order I placed the same day as this already arrive last friday…a small parcel fair enough, but only using standard free HK post. Not happy JJ! :s

      • netsurfer on 01/05/2012 - 10:42
        +1

        Can't change my vote anymore.

        • StewBalls on 01/05/2012 - 13:08
          +1

          Spewing!

          These guys need to take a leaf out of Dealfox's book…the GPS I ordered on Sunday just arrived! :o

        • netsurfer on 02/05/2012 - 13:19

          Requested a cancellation + refund. The customer service rep was helpful.

          Some info:

          • Too many of us want those batteries. Their supplier did not have enough stock.
          • If you ordered on Saturday, you will have a good chance to get the next batch (coming this week).
          • If you ordered on Sunday, you will need to wait a bit longer.

          Good service overall, so still + for me.

  • Russ on 01/05/2012 - 12:43

    Mine arrived today (1 May 2012), and I ordered on 21/4 (Friday evening), so delivery took six business days.

    They came in a normal envelope, no padding. Batteries came as five packs of two batteries each, just like the picture above, and the five packs were taped together.

    I just ran a discharge test on one of the batteries, at 500mA and using a Maha MH-C9000 charger. I didn't charge the battery, I just wanted to see how true the "ready to use" label is. I got 580mAh out of the battery. As the batteries are labelled "Up to 800mAh min 750mAh", that suggests the batteries were manufactured 12 to 18 months ago.

  • pork chop on 01/05/2012 - 13:59
    +1

    I also ordered on 21/4 and my order status is still showing 'processing' for the past week!. Disappointing!.

    • netsurfer on 02/05/2012 - 13:24

      Read my comment above, too many of us want those batteries. Their supplier did not have sufficient stock (to fulfill the unexpectedly large number of orders).

      You ordered on 21/4 - so you have a good chance to get the next batch of stock (arriving this week - could be today or tomorrow).

      For me, I bought some other AAA LSD batteries from overseas sellers so I've elected to cancel the order (the CSR was helpful and friendly).

      • Blackrose on 02/05/2012 - 15:31
        +1

        They must be getting a lot of calls, the CSR rep didn't seem so helpful when I called.

        I have emailed requesting cancellation and refund, I will purchase from a supplier that does not mislead customers.

        The JumbleJumble rep has at minimum fully mislead buyers, and at worst completely lied to buyers.

        • Store Repjunglejumble @ JungleJumble on 02/05/2012 - 17:46

          Apologies re the late delivery of your order. A refund to your paypal account has been completed as per our phone discussion.

          This group offer was exclusive to OzB and heavily subscribed; original 50 sales allocated from our stock were surprisingly surpassed within hours. A call made to our supplier re further stock availability confirmed new stock was due to land within days.

          Re this unforseen delay; if this is somehow misleading or lying to you I’m truly sorry you feel this way. We try our best not to limit these deals to small quantities, so everyone get's a fighting chance. Unfortunately in this case, there has been a delayed wait for some that ordered later than the Saturday the deal was submitted.

          We will happily take refunds, as per your request, for anyone that can’t wait.

        • Blackrose on 02/05/2012 - 18:23

          You were quick issuing a refund I have to give you credit for that.

    • Cartman123 on 03/05/2012 - 15:13
      +1

      I'm in the same boat.. pretty poor stock control and ordering system !!

      • naira on 03/05/2012 - 21:50

        I ordered 2 lots because I didn't want to ask my wife to login and order again. I have just emailed them about order status and they automatically cancelled one order. Really very poor service from these guys. First you take and accepted the orders then you don't update us and when we follow-up you just cancelled the order and still no update on the other one so am I expecting to get the other one soon?

        Instead of really wasting my time waiting for this, I could have bought the Sanyo Eneloop from Amazon around that price and have it by next week instead I chose to buy from this mob.

        • naira on 04/05/2012 - 14:01

          I got a call from a rep from Jungle. I wasn't expecting that. The apology was sincere and was told that it will be delivered next week. Good to still see they will make that personal call for the stuff up.

  • Store Repjunglejumble @ JungleJumble on 15/05/2012 - 11:20

    Hey All, Quick update re Evolta stock. After a shocking delay with only half the stock forward ordered delivered to us. We've finally got on top of this one and will have outstanding orders out today and tomorrow. Once again apologies to all concerned this hold up was unforeseen. We will update via email for all those not subscribed to this thread. JJ Support

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