The whirlpool forum is out of control. Its full of bullies and trollers with mods who protect the bullies.
I've been a member of that forum since 2002.
Has anyone else experience this?
Is the ozbargin forum a lot better?
The whirlpool forum is out of control. Its full of bullies and trollers with mods who protect the bullies.
I've been a member of that forum since 2002.
Has anyone else experience this?
Is the ozbargin forum a lot better?
A Bunch of know it alls , havnt been back for 10 years…
Are your Tesla, BMW and AMG insured?
Comprehensive or third party?
Do you have a gift card horror story to share?
WebCrawler, Lycos or Google?
Is your wife's name Pam?
I won't be too harsh, but…
OK, first of all, you have to understand WHY Whirlpool was created in the first place. The reason it was made was to whinge, complain and carry on about the ISP, Telstra.
From then, it attracted like-minded whinging individuals that bonded due to their love of hating on pretty much EVERYTHING.
Basically, it's a complaints board for tired, sad and angry people run by gatekeepers who are nothing but mere soul-less shells of their former selves.
After careful study I have come to a conclusion about what may have caused this Whirlpool community to start as a negative community from day one… I think that the early Whirlpool enthusiasts had parents that didn't know enough about the dangers of the internet, and so let their teens roam free on the wild west internet of the late 90's. These users became addicted to the unfettered porn they sought day & night before developing serotonin-syndrome from this over-consumption, becoming permanently devoid of any life-force. All they have left is the ability to spread negativity.
Hence, the community there are founded and continued by a bunch of hating whingers.
Now, do OzB forums
There's a definite undercurrent of sadness on here, too, shared by a large percentage of users… I might write something about it in the future as it might help people…
@Heaps for Cheaps: ozbargain is a bit more like reddit.. they enjoy the cyclejerk.
@Heaps for Cheaps: Most people come here to save money and end up spending money on stuff which they could've done without if they just stayed away from this website in the first place.
@[Deactivated]: Tbh, there is a significant demographic here who just are here to get a good bargain on something they were going to buy anyway. Its the thrill of deal-chasing we're after rather than actually saving money (which in current times is always appreciated though)
@[Deactivated]: This is the way
Ozbargain has saved me so much money I didn't need to spend.
end up spending money on stuff which they could've done without if
That depends on self-discipline.
My friends used to say that to me all the time,
but I guess it said more about them, ha.
If a person already had the self-control ,
a website won't push them over,
to buying something they won't really want.
Due to OzB, I discovered new hobbies and learnt about completely new things,
that I am proud of knowing now, only because my curiousity around a product / deal,
got me discussing and then friendly users sending PMs to me, to guide me in that 'quest'.
you sound like everything you just wrote lol
Oh, you are a member, now I see…
I'm not on WP though, it's just a place to visit once in as while, sort of like disaster tourism.
I am a pretty positive person, trying to bring joy, happiness, sexiness & good times to all.
Wow didn't know the background story, interesting,
Truth. When Telstra shut down the bigpond user forums, they created Whirlpool. And the bigpond forums were unbelievably toxic, people were stalking each other irl when they got flamewars (I still miss those forums though, v entertaining). The WP behaviour isn't anything new.
Join the communists
and feel right at home here…..
Addition:
Thanks to the nice people on here, but it seems some are challenged like WP
youre welcome….and yes that is correct
It's always been like that. I got put on a permanent low aura back in around 2008 for being the manager of another forum that they were pissed with for showing a screenshot of their then secret "Pool Room" LOL.
Nooooo… not me aura !
It made me laugh, I was around 48 at the time and couldn't help but think, I have a bunch of kids here who are chucking a temper tantrum, LOL.
years ago I posted asking for recommendation of good burn in software to test a new pc I just built for my parents, so I wouldn't have to travel to their town again to fix it if it failed.
ALL I RECEIVED WAS ABUSE
It's always been this way
Left Whirlpool many years ago for the similar reasons.
It went downhill ever since @jv was banned. I miss his banter about Collingwood.
Also been a member for 20 odd years, I think major turning point was the news section banning political subjects in late 00s. I saw 100s of accounts banned over next 12 months
Ironically a few months ago I saw a internode pony on someone's car dashboard. Internode would give them to whirlpool users.
*For me, it's a world of thousands of angry cranks and self-righteous boilers. *
…a question deleted because I asked it for my disabled son… within 1 minute they deleted it. Lovely people… *
… the sheer abuse was tremendous because "I" didn't know. *
… Thanks to the nice people on here, but it seems some are challenged like WP *
Mmmmm … my ChatGPT displays BAD: Bad Attitude Detected
Sounds a bit like here really.
Lmao, OP doesn't post for 3 years but jumps back on after a WP rant. Normally it's vice versa.
I've always found it helpful, I ask a question and quickly receive a good answer, just coming up to 20 years membership. When searching through past threads for answers the content is on topic so I don't waste a bunch of time reading off topic comments which don't help. Perhaps you need to work on how to phrase your questions? Going by your responses here you seem set on trying to rub people the wrong way.
Ahh i remember the PC section on Whirlpool years ago. Questions would get answered in a helpful manner and I would also enjoy responding/helping people out.
Now it's a battle of egos!
Can confirm - Thor (the moderator) is a rage mongering passive aggressive wanna be that never actually was.
They are all so power hungry only two people can actually update the news page so it goes weeks, sometimes greater than month prior to an update as they just spend all their time flapping their gums on the forum and not any actual broadband news.
You call them out for their antics and you either get moderated or deleted. Deffo not what it was when it first opened itgs pages to the world wide web !
The senior moderators determine the tone of forums. Thor has destroyed Whirlpool.
You have to ask why someone would take on the task of an unpaid senior moderator on a forum. It can only be that they get their kicks from having the power to push people around.
Thor is the worst. He has destroyed WP with his over zealous modding. Loser.
Stormcat was my nemeses… guys a tosser.
Probably just a really fat dude with a bad porn addiction.
Pretty sure that stormcat is not a dude.
@Drewbo: Then she’s a cow ?
…. the vicious crowd either abuse you outright and call you stupid or the over-eggoed moderator deletes you.
since December 1998
My advise advice is to forget Whirlpool, just ask @ChatGPT :-)
To be fair the there are some decent long term discussions I follow and usually get a laugh or good info from:
I follow the Trump and Ukraine thread but am usually looking for News on Trumps cases or War movements/attacks. I skip over most of the over repeated whining on Trump or Putin (not that I disagree … its just repeated too often) or technical discussion on why Ukraine should be given this weapon etc.
What baggygren
Maybe OP should google before posting to a forum. In many cases it's easier and less abuse prone.
Agree. Whirlpool has become crap. There was once a thread in the news section about attack on Rushdie. When I commented that the attacker is motivated by the ideology as per the religion, my posts were deleted and I was banned from the news section. Haven't tried logging in to Whirlpool since…
Most discussion sites eventually become trash and turn into breeding grounds for the worst parts of society as they get more popular. Whirlpool has strict mods. Ozbargain is filled with crotchety skynews bingeing boomers, landlords and mods that don't follow their own rules. Reddit is filled with basement dwelling shutin weebs and equally degenerate mods. 4chan is filled with borderline nazis. Twitter is filled with politics obsessed, virtue signalling witch hunt mobs…. the list goes on and on.
Ai is slowly making these places redundant in terms of searching for general advice. People have already started using discussion platforms like stack overflow and reddit less since chatgpt became somewhat competent. Better bargain bots will come about and ozbargain will no longer be a thing in the future either. You are already seeing this take effect with actually good deals selling out seconds after being posted here, making this site effectively redundant as a bargain website.
Most discussion sites eventually become trash and turn into breeding grounds for the worst parts of society as they get more popular…………
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ1CPk6…
places redundant in terms of searching for general advice.
Google has existed for a very long time and is very capable of answering simple questions, yet you still have people asking questions like if Store X is open on Y day on ozbargain.
Deals/bargains wouldn't be 100% of why people come and remain active users here (imo). There are other bargain sites where deals are posted, but they're dead. Theres no engagement, no arguments, nothing to laugh at or with. You can't have discussions with an empty room, nor with Ai.
What I think would be interesting is to see the engagement level of deals vs forum.
Thank you for having a go at the libs and conservatives equally. A refreshing read
Diesel fuel in alpine weather - why not just use google ?
TIL there's something called Alpine Diesel.
(Took about 15 seconds in Google)
I once just vented about my job applications not getting a response, looking for some kind words and encouragement (and begged them not to write negative comments because I wasn't in a good position mentally). They abused the shit out of me. I've never hated an online community so much. Long live OZB.
User name checks out! :)
Whirlpool is a forum not a chatroom. You really should leave that kind of emotional stuff to people that are close to you.
Nope, that's exactly what a forum is used for: To talk about issues and look for suggestions to fix them.
@DontNeedThis: You have better luck with that in Facebook groups than anonymised forums
@capslock janitor: How so?
@DontNeedThis: You have to understand that Whirlpool is a forum created around the topic of information technology and that doesn't gel well with emotional interpersonal stuff. If you made a post seeking attention over mental health stuff on the jobs forums instead of the lifestyle forum then that's just bad netiquette. If that's what you did then they were right to correct you for being inconsiderate of what you're posting and where.
You should always lurk around first to get a feel for the vibe of the place before you join a forum so you can fit in. Never just join and start expecting everyone already there to change for your every whim.
If you do that then next time you join a forum I bet you won't get abused. I've been on whirlpool for 22 years now and have never been abused or banned or even warned. I've been on other forums for longer with the same result. Trust me when I say my advice works. Give it a try!
Disagree - Reddit is largely really lovely to people who need some validation or connection. Whirlpool is populated by people who are paralysed by the concept of emotion. Except anger. Because anger is manly and thus not an emotion.
@MessyG: Exactly. Reddit is full of nice people.
Whirlpool mods are some of the biggest (profanity) (profanity) I've ever come across. Some of the members there rate a close second.
I'm here to see how many other O-Cow users are around.
IMO Whirlpool is fine as long as you don’t wade into the news section or any of the political threads. Those are the only forum sections which can get a bit nasty.
I’ve been posting there for about 20 years and only really discuss things in the PC, Linux, Apple and Gaming forums as well as Lifestyle occasionally.
yeah. why would you even open a political or news thread on a tech forum?
Cause it's not a tech forum anymore. It literally has different topics.
Estimated that 3% of the Internet are psychopaths, so you will run into trolls on any platform.
As for Whirlpool, honestly forgot it existed, but suspect it's over represented by knowledgeable and passionate people, not renowned for people skills.
Just don't take it personally.
I left that hole over 10 years ago .. so did most people.
I only used them for the annual Tax Timings Thread, but they removed them from discussion and set up a wiki for people to add their tax return progress.
Miss reading the entitled, impatient comments that would result in a delayed return and sometimes a manual review, then audit.
I decided to stop using WP when a certain vote was in the news and only viewpoint was accepted by the moderators and all counter points were silenced by deletion.
I did not know this, it changes my opinion of WP. Thanks for sharing.
just some of the gems i've seen on Quora…
Why don't Australia and California merge?
Why doesn't New Zealand stop acting special and become a state of Australia? It is clearly 'southern territory' of Australia.
How dangerous are werewolves in real life compared to how they are portrayed on TV and films?
Why isn't there a bridge between New Zealand and Australia?
Are the Irish conspiring to invade Australia?
Quora's just bots, scammers, and weird Indians posting weird shit.
I think half the questions and answers are people testing thier chatbots like chatgpt and seeing if real people respond.
I joined wp about 20 years ago to get tips/advice on ISPs.
Have used it on and off ever since but have never has an issue with it personally - I don't get drawn into arguments or try to convince anyone to change their minds, just provide my 2 cents for things I feel I can add value on, and ask questions if I want an answer on something.
I've found it to be a pretty useful resource and people I interact with have been mostly pretty helpful and decent.
Whirlpool is great if you're into white guilt, and heavily woke / radical left opinions.
Everyday there's a post " why is Australia the most racist country " or similar, that always devolves into the most low IQ anecdotal arguments.
Similar to the weekly tradie bashing threads.
Similar to the Reddit demographic.
Then you come to the soort page and actually interact with racist idiots calling you a curry bag or something else and you realise there is some truth to it all?
Whirlpool is just an even lower IQ version of Reddit. Which is an amazing feat to achieve.
It's basically a place where the rent-a-protester crowd hangs out and cries about things.
Those losers who sit on the road in the middle of peak hour traffic to "protest oil" - that's Whirlpool.
It's basically a place where the rent-a-protester crowd hangs out and cries about things
Something I realised over time. The people who spend 24/7 on Reddit and moderate it for free - who would they be? The jobless losers who have nothing better to do. Of course they're weirdo communists who want free money and complain about everything. No normal person is sitting there for hours and hours unless they're getting paid for it.
I don't know which forums you're hanging out on Reddit but r/chickens is eggcellent.
Whirlpool is just an even lower IQ version of Reddit
Wow, I didn't think anything could get lower than Reddit. And that place is a cesspool.
Some sensible answers on the forum itself
But I shall always partake in shitting on WP modss in general
I stopped using WP and social media as a whole a while back, did me wonders for my overall mental health. A lot of points raised here I agree with.
I went back this week out of interest. Yeah, hasn't changed. Reminded me why I stopped visiting it.
I remember when WP was for finding the best ISP. At least that's all I used it for.
I've been using WP for a very long time and had some posts censored, but the vast majority of questions and responses get through.
It would be interesting to see just what the OP posted about scrapping metal. I cannot think of any reasonable reason as to why a question on the topic would be removed, unless the OP was asking how to get past reporting laws for copper wire or catalytic converters…
I would like to see the question about alpine diesel as well. People should be reasonable and realize not everyone knows everything. If someone asks a question about precious metals, coins, banknotes, etc on there I'm happy to answer. Doesn't matter how basic it is.
Definitely think there is a lot more to it than OP is letting on.
No it happens a lot. There is a very narrow band of topic that is permitted. Other posts disappear so you won't always know how heavily (and arbitrarily and inconsistently) the forums are modded.
I suppose that is why so many threads just go on and on and round in circles. The referendum thread is a classic for that.
Internet sucks in modern times. Everything is super moderated, everything is incredibly serious. People are just too uptight.
Gotta move to private matrix servers.
I hear a rumour it is calling to be called whingepool.com.au
Yeah the moderators are horrific with personal agendas against anyone they don't like. But what can you do..
Just do exactly what everyone else did and quit showing up.
It always was a toxic echo chamber
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/ozbapi/node/799563/listcomments…
Normally I'd give the OP the benefit of the doubt, but their post history here has been so badly rated by us that I suspect the problem is not Whirlpool. I've not seen so much red!
Yeah thinking the same.
Whirlpool mods are the biggest POS out there. All have the mall cop syndrome.
Personally had no issues and been using it for 17 years. Each section has its own moderators so maybe the sections you frequent, and I dont, have overzealous staff or something.
You don’t have to be too religious about things… Just get to the point of why you’re there and get out 🤷♂️
I've had the opposite experience. I've had way more troubles posting on OzBargain forums and zero problems on Whirlpool.
In the past OzBargain moderators have contacted me regarding complaints against my posted comments. The OzBargain moderators always found in my favour, the complaint was unfounded and that I was probably trolled.
As others pointed out that Whirlpool members are less emotional but in my case thats fantastic. Its the OzBargain trolls that discourage more participation on OzBargain and make unnecessary work for the moderators.
cesspool Yep, so toxic. A long long time ago I would frequent there, it was bearable but just got worse and worse. It's been a couple of years and I'm not missing the place.
Whirlpool is a whingefest and the most over-moderated 'open' social media platform in Australia.
Some of the more senior mods are on a power trip and Simon just couldn't gaf anymore.
It's relevance for any critical thinker ended decades ago.
lol. i'm sure you'll be getting upvotes for this….
Unfortunately I find a lot of forums to be like that now - people don't read your post carefully but will find a way to attack you anyway. Then you spend another few minutes explaining that if they had just read your post properly, then their comment was uncalled for, and then they find another way to attack you.
The other one I like are the ones who go through your post history and attempt to mock your question or enquiry because of something you said x years ago.
I haven't been to WP since covid.
They were suspending anyone questioning lockdowns.
Can't say I miss it. The value it once had just isn't there.
Even worse about Reddit are the automated bot rules/bans