Ecofire 4W downlight lamps reduced by 50%.
Pay $12.25 each + delivery.
Ecofire 4W MR16 Downlight Lamps Reduced by 50% --- $12.25 + Delivery
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Hi stix, there are products that are 50w halogen equivalent but are highly priced. Look at the brightgreen or Philips products. Id recommend using 240v downlights instead of 12v as you eliminate the use of transformers.
hi rep, so would these 240v downlights one day replace all the low-voltage ones (12v)? our new home is currently under construction and we need at least 20 of those 50W halogen lights..preferably to be dimmable but i guess you'll then again need transformers to do the job?
The GU10 downlights are the ones you want sol3x. No transformer required.
@gces - would the Philips 7W GU10 you have in stock suit our brightness requirements? If so, do you give a discount for bulk orders?
The philips 7w is approx equivalent to a 35 watt halogen. We can offer you a 10% discount on the philips products for orders over 10 pieces.
50W halogens produce around 900 lumens (give or take, according to Osram/GE specs). It has been some months since I upgraded my MR16 lights to LEDs, but I couldnt find any decent quality LED replacements which put out anywhere near that (on paper at least). However, I went with the Philips Master 10W LEDs, and have found them a more than suitable replacement, notwithstanding the claims of only 540 lumen output. I note the Brightgreen branded lights on this website claim 720 lumens, but I wouldnt rely on claims alone. The best thing to do is try before you buy.
hi branko,
do you still need transformers for your new upgrade?And how do you find the beam angles?
The suppliers will usually give you a choice of beam angle - I think with the Philips it was 60 degrees or 36 degrees (there is a drop down menu on this site).
As for transformers, my old transformers that I used for halogen MR16s took my LEDs nicely, and these Philips LEDs even played nice with my dimmers. Even cheapo LEDs I got of Alibaba worked with my transformers, but not all worked well with my dimmers. I know LEDs work better with some dimmers and transformers and not others, but am not electrically minded so I dont remember the specifics. My best advice would be to try in your setup before you buy (well, before you buy lots).
Alternatively, you could check out whether this transformer is any good http://www.energysaver.net.au/transformer-c-11_14.html. it is cheap and at least claims to do the job. The $14 7W LEDs from that site are also not bad, but not quite as good as the philips.
Thanks - looks like there's only 40 degree Philips on the Ecofire site. Where did you get your Philips from?
Are you sure? This website has a dropdown box on the page for the Philips lights with options for 36 and 60: http://greenconcepteco.com.au/mr16-12v-downlight-lamps/phili…
I got mine off ebay though - worked out well at the time with the exchange rate, no idea whether this is the best place to get them now.
EDIT: heres a link for 10 warm white 60 degree Philips ones http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/10-pack-x-PHILIPS-10W-Master-LED-…
Ah…I was looking at the GU10 ones.
Ecofire? You mean they start an environmentally friendly fire…
Not the first company to use "fire" in their brand name.
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-protected-18650-lithi…
TrustFire lithium batteries. I trust they don't catch alight…
what's the heat output like on LEDs? I have 4 halogens in my kitchen, and quite frankly it makes it uncomfortably warm standing under them.
The heat is minimal. I can keep my hand on the actual heat sink of a 9W LED downlight.
Few cm from the light there is no heat whatsoever.
FYI everyone, a 4W LED is (roughly) equivalent to a 20W halogen.
I'm currently investigating the change from halogen to LED downlights.
I'm looking at Osram 10W 240V LEDs. About $31 each, which takes < 2 years to pay itself off.
The Osram's have a 5 year warranty so it's a guaranteed win. LEDs all claim huge lifetimes of 30,000 hours but very few have a warranty to back it up.The only issue I'm facing at the moment is that most LEDs are around 36 degree, and I currently have 60 degree, so for large rooms there may be issues.
Thanks mate. Facing the same issue…we're building a house and to use LEDs, I'm guessing you have to space the downlights closer together, costing more as the sparky will charge extra for installing more lights. I'm wondering if we should just use CFL downlights (which I don't like).
I wouldn't worry about that extra cost - it wouldn't be much. Oh… Unless of course you're building, then the builder will likely slug you with a big bill because that's what they do. Can only ask. Negotiate.
There are LED MR16s available with 60 degree angles, and even 120 degree angles. The philips ones linked to on this website have an option for 60 degrees. Many cheaper ones also have options, such as these http://www.energysaver.net.au/supreme-mr16-downlight-warm-wh… (of which i own a few and can vouch for, but are not as good as the much more expensive philips ones) as well as countless others on Ebay and Alibaba which do the job.
Ta…but hoping to go GU10 to avoid transformers.
Me too.
Good price
Hey rep, we're building a house and would like to know what lights to go for. We'd like bright warm white downlights (with dimmers in lounge/media) but are there any LEDs on the market that can do 50W halogen brightness with wide beam angle?