Westnet - Poor Service, Whom to Complain to?

TL;DR: WestNet cancelled our account without our consent or knowledge, who can we complain to?

On Thursday 20th Jan, we awoke to no internet, my wife alerted me to this around 8am, I did some basic rebooting of the NBN box, which resulted in the same situation, and tried again about an hour later. I had some personal errands to run, so went out and did those, the internet was still not connected when I returned home, so sent off an email to support at around 2PM. Got the standard email back saying they would reply within 24 hours, and a job number.

On Friday we still had no internet, so called support, got a call back around 40 mins later, when the person told me to do the reboot of the router, etc again. We went through all that, and he mentioned there was an issue with my account and he would need to put me through to provisioning; as I was transferred, I was hung up on, after around 40 minutes of talking through this issue. The issue still wasn't resolved, so called back again around 10am, another hour later, got the return call and spoke to another support guy, whom I spoke to for another half an hour, who said it had been escalated to provisioning; I got an email and SMS at that time saying the account had been transferred, as well as an email requesting feedback, and an SMS saying they were investigating the issue. Around 3pm sent another email asking for an update. Also called support again, got a call back almost 2 hours later, which lasted just over 10 minutes where he said this had been escalated and he couldn't see any further details.

On Saturday the 22nd, we still had no internet, so called again about 9:20, got a call back at close to 11am, the guy sounded like he had picked up the wrong line and hung up on me; I called back support again, they called back over an hour after that, when I got a similar message that it had been escalated and there wasn't much they could do; I got a call from the support person I was talking to on Friday, who was following up, after he told me they had automatically deleted my account because someone had requested my service be transferred (something of which I didn't instigate, nor have any knowledge about, but the email at around 11am on Friday was sent minutes before the account was deleted). He transferred me to provisioning and they stated they could re-activate my account, but I would need a new modem, and asked for payment up front, however he said if we do this, the account would be active within 2 to 4 hours after payment. I paid this amount by CC, including fees for shipping the new modem (something I wasn't sure I needed, and certainly wasn't looking for) and waited, expecting my account to be reactivated. I received a couple of SMS's about the transaction being successful, but around 7PM my account still wasn't active, I tried to call support around this time, but was faced with a potential 1 hour wait time, and I could't leave a message, so gave up for the day.

Early Sunday morning, at 7:20, placed another call to support, who said the information about 2 to 4 hours was wrong, and it would be 24 hours.

Monday morning, still without internet, called again at around 8:40, and they called back around 1 hour later, I first spoke to support, then got transferred to provisioning, then escalated the call to his supervisor, who said they can do nothing until the new modem is delivered. He pushed the priority of that up, but said it will still be (another) 24 to 48 hours. After the modem was delivered it would be another 2 to 4 hours to have the account activated.

Here we are on Tuesday, I still have no internet, I don't have the modem, and I'm pretty cheesed off. We are starting our sixth day of no internet, and I'm finding that WestNet support is pretty poor; currently I am between contracts, and any correspondence sent to my email is bouncing (as of Friday evening). I cannot get to my email to respond to anyone asking for interviews, not can I get to any sites for research on companies, or apply for position. Any financial statements sent to my email (for example, a bill, or an invoice) will be rejected and I won't know if I have outstanding payments required - which could incur late fees and could also potentially have my email address removed from a business, since it was rejected. Whilst we have no internet we have been using our 4G account and will be looking at an excess bill soon.

Besides WestNet, whom should I complain to? Is it fair to ask for compensation, and what is reasonable to ask for?

EDIT1: added TL;DR

EDIT2: Tuesday 6PM, modem hasn't arrived. They guarantee it will arrive tomorrow morning, but this wouldn't be the first time they have broken their promise.

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Comments

  • +3

    jv alt account?

    compensation

    CoMpEnSaTiOn

    FTFY

    • I'm not JV, what is FTFY?

      • fixed that for you

      • +2

        Fake JV

    • Why do we need OPs life long story?

      Why can't posters just cut to the chase?

      I'm sorry but I stopped reading this after the 1st sentence
      Not interested in hearing what OP did all morning, hour by hour.
      Complete waste of time looking at this post

      Pls come back with a 2 line description and more people will reply

      PS If your NBN supplier cancelled your account I'm sure they had good reason to do so.
      Firstly call them to check why and if it can be reinstated.
      If not, just go sign up with someone else.

      Happy Australia Day everyone

      • Why can't posters just cut to the chase?

        You clearly missed the first line:

        TL;DR: WestNet cancelled our account without our consent or knowledge, who can we complain to?

  • It's fair to ask for compensation, however you will likely only get a pro-rata of the days down.

    What type of NBN do you have? Have you narrowed it down to the NBN and not your router?

    Honestly, vote with your feet. If there's an issue with your provider, change providers.

    • What type of NBN do you have? Have you narrowed it down to the NBN and not your router?

      I believe it's FTTP, router was rebooted in first instance, they had flagged the account for deletion and terminated the line, which is why we had no internet to start with, that was prior to deleting the account, which happened after I'd sent three emails and spoken to two support people …

      Honestly, vote with your feet. If there's an issue with your provider, change providers.

      The wheels are in motion with that, however my email is tied to my Westnet account and all correspondence goes there … (invoice, bills, friends, etc)

      • nbn FTTP can have four simultaneous connections running at the same time. Signup to these free trials.

        1 month free on unlimited 1000/50 @ Aussie BB and 1 week free on unlimited 100/40 @ Launtel.

        • The line was terminated - just for clarification I said "they terminated the line", that wasn't Westnet, but NBNCo (from what I understand) … on the support ticket they called it an "illegal churn" (but I'm not familiar with their terminology)

          • +1

            @neophytte: Aussie BB and Launtel are fast at doing new connections and you can be back online in under 1 hour on FTTP.

  • +1

    TL:DR.

    Is there an abridged version of this novel?

    • Added one, sorry for the ramble, trying to put 5 days, over 20 calls and several emails into a summary isn't easy …

  • -1

    I had some personal errands to run, so went out and did those, the internet was still not connected when I returned home, so sent off an email to support at around 2PM.

    I got an email and SMS at that time saying the account had been transferred, as well as an email requesting feedback, and an SMS saying they were investigating the issue. Around 3pm sent another email asking for an update.

    Damn that internet that doesn't work but still let's you send and receive emails.

    • +1

      Emails were sent via our 4G account on phone … not via the disconnected service.

  • +2

    You know whats worst then a rant?…. the great wall of text rant.

    • -1

      Thanks for your comment.

  • +2

    Just to confirm - someone who is not you somehow asked for your service to be transferred to another company, so to somehow resolve this (fairly serious) issue and reinstate your service, you agreed to purchase a new modem and expected it to turn up in 2-4 hours on a Saturday afternoon/evening??

    • Is that what happened? That changes things. Thanks for the TL;DR

      • Added a TL;DR section at the top …

    • and expected it to turn up in 2-4 hours on a Saturday afternoon/evening??

      no, they said they would re-instate the account within 2-4 hours and the modem would arrive later (not that the modem would arrive within 2-4 hours) …

  • -4

    because someone had requested my service be transferred (something of which I didn't instigate)

    I'm 100% certain this request was made by your phone.

    These days phones are so smart they are even capable of searching eBay for the most expensive item and making the purchase all this without any human intervention. So requesting an account transfer would have been child's play specially if it has a broken screen.

    • My phone isn't that smart, nor does it have a broken screen.

  • +1

    Lodge a complaint with the TIO if you aren't getting a suitable solution to your issue.

    https://www.tio.com.au/complaints

    • Thanks, I've lodged that, are there any other places I can draw attention to this?

      • The TIO will take over. Just sit back and let them do their thing.

        They will communicate directly with Westnet and take whatever action is necessary on your behalf.

        • Will they contact me prior to that? I haven't had any contact from them.

  • +2

    6 days with no internet… oh no!

    • Whilst we are using 4G for our internet, the main issue is they have deleted our account; think of how many invoices, bills, mailing lists, friends will send to your personal email. I'm also using this email address as my main contact as I apply for new jobs, and people now can't reach me on it to follow up, arrange interviews, or have discussions. Six days without the internet is fine, deleting our account will give me (potentially) months of mop-up work, or (potentially) lost job opportunities.

      • Thats why people switch to Gmail or similar.. doesnt matter shit what ISP your with.

        YMMV

        • Whilst highly unlikely there is no guarantee that Google will continue their free Gmail service, but I understand your point. My reasoning was that, whilst we pay for the service, we may as well use it to the fullest extent, perhaps I'm wrong to think that way?

          • @neophytte: I agree — google will do a photobucket on the world one day no doubt about it.

            and paying for something isnt always the best option.
            Ring Aussie Broadband, they had me up and running in <3 hours swapping from Optus

          • @neophytte: You're just tying yourself to the ISP.

            Gmail or Outlook.com {or similar} costs the same, but you can give your ISP the boot whenever you feel like it. {or in this case, when they feel like it}

  • If you can't figure out who to complain to by using google then I would expect your complaint to go no where due to the info supplied not begin in the format that the government department(s) requires.

  • +1

    why would you need a new modem for a re-activated connection? sounds weird (or support has no idea what they are doing)

    • I'm not clear on this; our modem was supplied by them when we connected 5 or 6 years ago; it's not the most modern, I would agree, but I'm unclear why it worked before it was disconnected, but won't work if we can get reconnected.

  • Just get NBN with a new provider and a new Gmail account.

    Seems like they don't want you as a customer anyway.

    • Thanks, but our current email address is linked to so many things, if it was as simple as that, I would have already walked away. My initial question is regarding whom I should complain to, as they have deleted our account without our request or knowledge, which I'm sure is outside the boundaries of the contract we have with them.

      • Are you sure you will get your old email account back? Sounds like they are signing you up as a new customer with the new modem charge and will assign a new email id to you.

  • +1

    Replied to you in PM.

    WN didn't disconnect you. Someone signed up and put in your address, and the other provider forced it without a proof of occupancy. To be alarmist about it, someone stole your line from you, and them.

    • Thanks for your PM, I appreciate the info you provided.

      The issue I have is that Westnet deleted the account, after speaking with them twice and emailing them at least three times prior to that event happening.

  • Is it fair to ask for compensation, and what is reasonable to ask for?

    You are entitled to have the full cost of the 'new' modem refunded along with any service charges associated with the days you had no service, play your cards right and you might get the whole month refunded but that'll be about the extent of it.

    • Hmmm, thanks for that.

  • Honestly, at that "sign up fresh and send a new modem we'll bill you for" point you should have told them to (profanity) off and check for deals on AussieBB, Superloop, et al - you know, non-shit ISP/RSPs

    TIO these Mofos, you've got emails trails and stuff, so at the least you should get the new service crap refunded and maybe a pro-rate on the down time, but yeah nothing more than that other than hoping Westnet cop a fine behind the scenes. iiBorg absorbing all the providers wasn't so bad, but it is all TPG now so run, run, then run some more!

    • Thanks, as I mention above, our email account is the main one we use for communication, and have our bills, etc going there.

      I've started a TIO, but it's still an ongoing issue.

      • +1

        I bought my own domain for email to prevent these dramas with ISPs holding you to ransom like this, and because back in those days the free mobs like hotmail et al pre gmail didn't allow imap clients. Not exactly the cheapest option but more flexibility when you have problems like this.

  • +1

    You complain to Ozbargain obviously.

    I'm sure Scotty is already on the blower

    • +1

      I find OzBargain is a great source of information regarding who to talk to in situations like this one from people who have been through similar scenarios. And thanks Scotty!

  • first mistake … using email to contact support.

    I've been with westnet for 17+ years, and email support has always been well known for being slow to action.
    It can be handy to provide additional info (eg. ping/traceroute data) - but certainly not primary contact point.

    2nd mistake … using your ISP provided email address for critical things (eg. work / bills) - once you get internet up and running, you should look at getting a domain name + hosting your email away from ISP.

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