Model number PXSPSDMS-0182
Specifications:
Input: 2 x 4Ah 18V batteries
Cutting Diameter: 470mm
Cutting Heights: 30 - 65mm, 6 position
No Load Speed: 3,300/min
Grass Catcher: 75 litres
Noise Rating: 95dB
Weight (Tool Only): 31.3kg
Is there a universal power rating for lawn mowers? I own the 2 x 18v older plastic version (not brushless) and it often struggles when the grass gets a bit overgrown. Wondering if this has more power.
really good question. would appreciate some insight on this too, seeing as ozito doesn't specify any other power or performance metric
When I woke this morning, I didn't think I would be purchasing a lawn mower today, but here we are… driving to Bunnings..
This site costs me more money than it does saving me money.
FYI - PowerPass discount reduces this to $378 and change.
I prefer full warranty to power pass discount for these types of tools
does powerpass compromise on warranty?
Yes. Powerpass is a trade discount. If you buy something domestic with trade discount they assume you used it in a commerical setting which affects the level of warranty.
What is "change"?
It's a common English term.
E.g. $378 plus a few cents. I can't remember the exact figure so maybe $378.15 - the .15 is "change".
I'd tell you the exact price but the receipt is in the car and dinner beckons…
Do you mean if use powerpass will lose the warranty?
Not with mine.
Not from my experience no.
Powerpass is supposed to be for tradies (i.e. more premium brands than Ozito) but as long as you have a paper or digital recepit the front staff couldn't care less and will sort out any exchange you need.
You may be disappointed using power pass as I noticed none of my ozito purchases receive a discount.
Unless yours is different to mine 5% most of the time.
Edit not a tradie but run a business.
Not disappointed, Got $20 off.
Whilst I agree that Ozito is not normally a powerpass thing, their big boy stuff is. Need to check the powepass site first, to see if discounted.
I'm obviously not going to downvote it, but I have the normal version and I can't see how it can be self-propelled, it struggles with long or wet grass as it is, making it self-propelled would only compound this issue.
What is the model number of your normal version? Is it Brushless?
PXCSDMS-018
Yes, it's brushless.
hi all, I'm a novice. this one says its 95db and my 20yr old petrol mower says its 96db. i thought battery mowers were supposed to be 'much' quieter but that doesn't seem the case here. What am i failing to understand? any help greatly appreciated.
They are much quieter, I was surprised by the rating on this one as well. You can definitely carry on a conversation with this one.
Just like how electric cars are still noisy over 40km/h due to tyre noise, electric mowers are noisy as the blade itself spins fast which generates significant noise.
I purchased one of these today, and felt I would share my thoughts. I didn't really need a new mower, but wanted to get in to the battery space and out of the petrol space. Some thoughts/opinions of my own:
- the mulching capability is awesome. You cannot easily see the mulched remnants.
- it was also awesome charging the batteries for around an hour and it was then ready to go. No need to worry about taking the fuel can down to the servo. I have solar, and a lot of excess solar, so the charging power was pretty much free.
- it is in many ways a cleaner process. No need to deal with petrol spills and oil. No need to deal with bits of grass flying at you as you empty and re-mount the catcher (ie by using the mulcher there's no need for the catcher, but even if instead using the catcher the process of stopping and starting the mower is way easier/smoother than with a petrol mower).
- not once did the mower cut out, not even on more grueling bits
- the noise is less than a petrol mower, but not significantly less in my opinion. I was a bit surprised with how noisy it still was.
- the feel of mowing is certainly different compared to a petrol mower. Maybe it has to do with the weight of it. It is heavy to use if you aren't using the self-propelling function (which isn't ideal to use in all parts of the lawn). The mower does seem to get stuck on not so nice lawn areas (very bumpy-uneven) likely due to the weight and needs a bit of an extra push to move it along.
- I do not see the real necessity of the lever that must be held against the frame to keep the mower powered on. I realise it's a safety thing but I think it's a bit overkill. They should instead have made some other method where it required a bit of "effort" to start the mower (e.g. pressing a couple of buttons down for a certain amount of time or in a certain sequence), but then once you started it it stayed on until you turned it off. It isn't a huge deal though - the inconvenience is minimal.
- My lawn area is about 200m2 I think. I used the self propulson quite a lot. The two batteries still had 2/3rds remaining at the end.
Overall I quite like the mower. I think it would have been better if the self propulson was omitted and the weight was less. That may seem to suggest I'd favour the previous one that is much lighter and no self propelling function. I wouldn't actually, as that doesn't seem to have the mulching feature which I like too much..
Everything written above is just my own opinion, I'm sure the experience of others vary to mine.
Awesome feedback for anyone on the fence - many thanks for going to the effort.
Interesting that you note that it got stuck on some bumpy areas and speculate that it may be on account of the greater weight. In my experience with two different self-propelled mowers (and the forums full of opinions which support them) on occasions where certain models struggle with traction, it is almost always caused by a lack of weight (due to the predominantly carbon/polymer decks) and just as frequently remedied by adding more weight. Either by putting a spare battery in or on the deck, or mowing problematic unlevel sections with some grass in the catcher. Seems counter intuitive but the extra weight often greats greater traction. I'm not sure that it applies to this steel-deck model, but it's something to keep an eye on and could be easily remedied by putting a couple of batteries in the two spare holding slots.
Thanks again for the review - much appreciated…
You are welcome, and you are probably right about the weight. Note, with the getting stuck part I didn't mean necessarily when the propulsion was enabled, just pushing it forward manually. You'd need to then give it a firm push to get it past the problematic section. It was on crappy areas of the lawn where there was a bit of grass and a bit of dirt, and uneven. If I get the chance today I'll try moving the mower over that section again to try to suss out what the issue was, and compare it with my petrol mower moving over the same section.
Even if you didn't have solar it would be virtually free. A few cents or so at most to charge those batteries.
I thought I'd do some measurement and can confirm you are pretty much correct. The fast charger is pulling around 63W when charging the battery. So if we say for example's sake that the cost of power is 30c/kWh, and it takes 75 mins to charge a battery. Hence, cost for each charge per battery is about 2 cents. 2 batteries would then be 4 cents. Much cheaper than petrol :)
Thanks for your review and feedback on experience with this lawnmower. Helped me decide to purchase one today!
Any tips for turning the mower? Or do you have to release the 'drive' then restart the mower at each corner? Thanks guys
There are two levers. One for mower and one for self-propel. When you want to turn, release self-propel, turn and then engage self-propel. Mower can remain on.
If it's a hard 90 or 180 degree turn you'd disengage propulsion briefly and re-orient the mower.
For more gradual turns, you just leave propulsion on and guide it around a corner or bend like any other mower.
One of the biggest benefits of propulsion mowers relates to turning the mower. Rather than needing c. 2m to reorient the mower and get behind it to leverage the force required to push it forward, you can turn in much smaller areas since you only need to keep your hand on the propulsion so that the engine will propel it forward - you don't have to get enough space to get all the way behind it to manually push it. It's hard to describe in theory, but in practice makes a big difference to practicality and mowing times.
Thanks guys
Is it a big no no pulling it backwards? Obviously not when you have it in 'drive'
@tanzy: Backwards is fine and necessary if you mow up to something. My yard has lots of raised edging and some fence, so it would impossible to do completely without reversing.
Haven't had this one long, but I pulled my old mower over spongey sections to avoid digging in. De-thatched the cr*p out of that section before spring and it's now back to normal.
Woke up this morning, told the wife I was heading to Bunnings.
Didn't think I'd be coming home with a lawnmower
Any recommendation on a mower for a lawn around 80m². Battery is preferred but cord should be fine as well. This one will be too heavy to manoeuvre around.
Just get the cheapest battery Ozito. Will do the job done.
How to setup the mulch feature?
Thirty seconds to plug in the mulching plug in place of the catcher.
Anyone know where i can get the non propelled version in Sydney?
Your best bet is to phone a store and ask - special orders etc should be able to help and check stock across multiple stores as can the floor staff if you ask them nicely.
I believe the INS number for that machine was 0244221 - they can use that number to see if any store has stock and go from there.
From the Ozito website - https://ozito.com.au/products/pxc-2-x-18v-brushless-steel-de…
thank you will give them a call
So i managed to grab the last non propelled one from Villawood.
FYI The older non propelled one has a 50litre catch and propelled one is 75litre
Will post a review tonight after i mow my lawn
@essent1al: Called Bunnings Kirawee and gave them the Item number and they checked the system.
They said Villawood had 3 in stock so i called Villawood and they patched me to the gardening section and the guy confirmed it was on the floor.
He said there was 3 in the system but i only found 1 on the floor. Maybe it sold as i drove there
These mowers arent found in the aisles btw, they are with the bulky items along the entrance wall or on floor pallets
@essent1al: Oh haha i posted a review a few posts below.
I used it again yesterday, absolutely love it.
I went all-city to find the "regular" 2x 18v brushless steel deck version of this recently, and it's very good, powerful enough for thick grass, suits my 600sqm block perfectly.
What of blades on this mower?
Anyone in Brisbane wants the non propelled contact me, or I will return mine tomorrow. Used only for 10mins. Works well but wife is used to the self propelled feature.
My 2 Cents review
So for context, I already own the Ozito Telescopic lawnmower (PXLMTK-4182) which is the 2 x 18v version which I got for $299. I've had this for a while.
I have a 500sq block and probably around 200sq or so of grass. I will normally be able to do this on a full charge. I'm a relatively fit male 40 year old circa 70kg.
I was looking for another lawn mower for my dad who is around 70 (though health is declining) who has a similar size lawn.
So I bought this yesterday to work out if I give them my old one or give them this new one.
Just thought I would add to the conversation for people thinking about buying or upgrading between the two, as a lot of people poo poo the 'plastic' mowers (which is fair enough when they are underpowered)
Pros
- Wider cutting 460mm vs 370mm
- Self propelled vs not (however i don't think it really is a pro in comparison to the PXLMTK-4182 as that is is very light anyway)
- Noticeably more powerful (though I probably don't really need it as the PXLMTK-4182 is fine most of the time)
- Brushless motor so more efficient
- Ability to add 2 extra batteries (if you have them)
- Much larger catcher
Cons
- Much heavier 31kg vs 14.7kg.
- Harder to manoeuvre around tight spaces
- Need to operate on self propelled most of the time as it is heavy (especially if you are using the large catcher and it's full of grass)
- Does require more effort turning in tight spots
- Louder (if noise is an issue)
- Battery life not as long (due to using self propelled)
- They include 2 x Fast chargers rather than the fast twin charger.
Comments
- I think the steel deck is great value, however i don't love my purchase due to the weight and the tight spaces that I need to cut. For example, I can easily use my old mower to mow under a trampoline one handed, however this is near impossible with the steel deck due to the weight
- The self propelled function needs to be used most of the time as the machine is too heavy to push over a reasonable distance without it. It would be great for a lawn that doesn't require you to get around a lot of things. Therefore you won't get as long battery life compared to a plastic version or the original steel deck.
- The wide cutting width is great, but it doesn't compensate (for me) in regards to the maneuverability. e.g. I will mow 'backwards' every now and then and I can't do this with the steel deck.
- I will need to change my cutting style and do more trimming around tighter spaces with the whipper snipper.
So in a nutshell, I think it's great for what it is, however having a lightweight mower does have it's advantages.
I'd love to compare it to the original steel deck which weighs 20kg for 'my lawn' and my 'mowing style'.
But i'll just need to stick with my new mower instead.
The other family member will get my PXLMTK-4182 due to it being lighter and easier to move around.
The lesson I learned is that you really do need the right mower for the space you have and for your personal circumstances. The steel deck self propelled will be great for a lot of people, but not necessarily everyone.
How do you find the telescopic one? Does it cut low enough? The steel deck is pretty much useless for couch.
You make good points and I agree. The self-propelled steel deck mower is suitable for particular circumstances. e.g. it's better for bigger yards rather than smaller, in general.
Just picked one up and went for a spin around the backyard.
I can't believe I have never used a self-propelled lawn mower before. It was …. a joy (!!!) to mow the backyard.
I got one today as well. Put it together and tried it but my grass must be a bit too short. Also, im 159cm and it’s not super comfortable for me to push, even on the lowest handle setting.
Do you think it's an issue that it doesn't cut low enough or is it acceptable?
I think it’s acceptable. I’m going to try it my backyard today. I may have bought something a bit too powerful and over the top for my needs. I could have gone the model down one, but this one seemed the sturdiest.
Ok just cut the backyard and it was faster, however it didn’t cut low enough, and I have a lot of turns, and the weight of it made it a bit hard.
I think I will need a smaller one. I still have the box, anyone have any issues exchanging it for a different mower?
Thanks for the feedback, did you try using the self propelled feature? I might pick one up as my yard is quite large, if it doesn't cut low enough I think there are some mods to make it lower. Big draw point for me is not having to deal with petrol, start ups and servicing.
@Handymancan: Yes and that feature was great, but my lawn isn’t really big enough for me to use it. I would use it for a few seconds and have to turn. If you have a large rectangular yard, this is perfect. I didn’t like that it didn’t cut low enough and sometimes it would get “stuck” (wheels moving but not going forward) as my yard isn’t completely flat.
FYI I packed it up, took it back to Bunnings, told them I wasn’t happy with the fact that it didn’t cut low and they gave me back a full refund, no questions asked.
Used mine for the first time today on about 300sqm of kikuyu. Awesome..
I did note people commenting of adding more batteries for more power.
I read the manual to say it just uses the additional batteries if the other bank goes flat, so not additional power.
If you need a lower cut, this is available.
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/brisbane-city/garden-tools/o…
I never bought one as I found mulching made the grass thicker and and the mower sank in the grass a bit more.
I've always been told to not cut low to help prevent weeds from growing up, and had always been cutting around 50-60mm high (QLD blue couch, mowing twice per month). Really surprising to see mower with minimun cut of 30mm and people commenting "not low enough".
I haven't got time to go see it in flesh but I'll probably replace my 2018 Ryobi 36V Self-Propelled with this one, because my battery is no longer holding charge and new batteries are too tall and won't fit in my model's battery compartment, even if I decide to take the $299 damage for the 6Ah (originally came with 5Ah but looks like Bunnings are only selling 6Ah and 9Ah at the moment). Ozito batteries are much more affordable and readily available.
Thanks for the feedback on length and weeds, going to pick one up as it seems like a good promotion
I didn't even know couch could grow that high. My couch has always been kind of flat, lower than weeds.
I ended up hunting down the non propelled version due to lighter weight and longer runtime. KISS.
Key differences between the propelled vs non propelled:
(PXBSDMK-4182) - https://ozito.com.au/products/pxc-2-x-18v-brushless-steel-de…
(PXSPSDMK-4182) - https://ozito.com.au/products/pxc-2-x-18v-brushless-steel-de…
Propelled:
31kg weight
75L Grass catch
6 Cutting Positions (30-65mm)
Mulching plug
4x Battery slots (for longer run time, not more cutting power)
2x Single Battery charger
Non Propelled:
19kg weight
50L Grass catch
9 Cutting positions (25-80mm)
No mulch plug
2x Battery slots
Twin battery charger
Will post a review tonight, front yard has some tall buffalo that might be a challenge.
Really impressed with the non propelled version. First time buying/using an electric mower, I was worried i wasted $400 on something that wouldn't cut it.
But I managed to do the front yard and backyard (Buffalo 2-5" overgrown) on a single charge with some juice left. It would usually use up a full tank on my old Victa 4 stroke.
Pros:
- Steel deck looks solid, General build quality is not bad
- Light, easy to shift around
- Quiet. My partner and neighbor complimented on how quiet it was. I cant hear it with QC35 headphones on
- No exhaust smoke. None of that gross oily/sweat mix and can mow with the laundry hanging
- No fuel, oil servicing costs
- No charging cost for me (i charge via garage solar or car solar)
- can be stored upside-down or any orientation
Cons:
- The safety button to engage the lever is annoying if you need to do a lot of stop and starts (but you can use a clamp to keep it pressed down)
- Blade doesnt cut right up to the edges of the deck as id like it. Its probably a safety design to stop toes getting chopped off.
Consistency of the blade and longevity of batteries/motor is the only question now.
Must agree, the non self-propelled is the better more refined unit.
OK so I pull the plug and got one today since so many people gave positive reviews.
Here’s a comparison to my old Honda 4 stroke
mower
Overall I liked it
I too bit the bullet and purchased one as my Ferrex decided to have a failed pull start, leaking fuel line and hard to find replacement blade.
My lawn is Kikuyu in the front (82m² area Approx.) Buffalo out the back (65m² area Approx.). The front is on a slope and both the thatch and crown are pretty thick, while the back's is more blade but bumpy (I have a dog that likes to dig and rotates his excavation works around the yard).
I mowed both yards on Dec 27th have had about 40mm of rain in the period with sunny and humid days on the in-between).
Hopefully this has painted a picture of the yards and their growth.
I did two runs on each yard at max clearance then the second max clearance.
Now onto the important stuff:
Neutrals -
- Noise level - I am used to a noisy petrol mower and edge trimmer so while the noise level was lower then those tools, it wasn't by much.
- Battery chargers were individual - I can see pros and cons for a multi bay and single units respectively.
Pros -
- The mowers self propelled lever makes moving along the lawn easier on the front yard (especially when navigating the slope).
- Battery life was pretty good - I did the front and more then half of the charge was left, where as one bar was left on the back.
- Ease of assembly.
- The mulch plug inclusion is great (I've never had a mower with one and this was a nice to have).
- The ability to extend run time with two additional battery ports.
- The adjustable speed control helped lessen the frequency of spinning or bogging.
- Clipping catch - OMG! I never thought I'd be as pleased with a wire framed fabric catch (used to the hard full plastic catch).
Cons -
- The operation of starting the mower is a bit annoying, especially when trying to carry on from a stall. I know it's a safety measure, but to push a button, squeeze a lever and then squeeze another lever to find out you didn't push the button hard enough from the beginning is annoying. Not to mention you have the safety plug which should remove the need to button press.
- The start up shouldn't require the squeezing of the propulsion lever (this can lead to further stalls after stalling on a tough patch).
- The rear wheels don't feel like they had much grip to the ground and could slip out even on flat surfaces and it did tare up a small patch of the yard (not a biggy for me, but might peeve a few people).
Overall, I am pleased with the purchase and keep to use the mulcher and minimising the use of the catch + green bin on the front in the weeks to come.
The adjustable speed control helped lessen the frequency of spinning or bogging.
Please clarify this?
You can vary the speed of the self propulsion, I assume that's what he/she is referring to
This ^
The operation of starting the mower is a bit annoying, especially when trying to carry on from a stall. I know it's a safety measure, but to push a button, squeeze a lever and then squeeze another lever to find out you didn't push the button hard enough from the beginning is annoying
Just for others benefit who are considering purchasing this mower, only the hold button and first lever is required to turn on the mower. The second level lever is required for activating self propel (and doesn't require the button to be pushed, the mower just has to be on).
I agree though that they went a bit overkill. They could have still made it safe without needing an always-on trigger to keep the mower running.
The rear wheels don't feel like they had much grip to the ground and could slip out even on flat surfaces
I agree. it didn't happen often, but on crappier parts of the yard the rear wheel(s) seemed to not grip as wheel. I wonder if its a side effect of the back wheels being much larger than the front wheels, so the weight of the unit is pushed towards the front wheels? I am not an engineer or physicist, so I am purely speculating.
About the self propel feature, I reckon it would be better if it were some type of finger trigger (situated where the fingers naturally sit) as it would be nice having easier control to activate and deactivate as needed. It probably wouldn't be that hard to jerry rig a switch.
I reckon it would be better if it were some type of finger trigger.
I completely agree. Not keen on voiding warranty by jerry rigging something though xD
I bought one on the weekend, my first battery mower. Do you have to use the self propelled function or can you just push the mower? I have a flat block and mowed with a Honda 5hp 4 stroke mower which is a similar weight with no problems.
Do you have to use the self propelled function or can you just push the mower?
You need to squeeze the self-propelled lever to start the mower. Once you squeeze the lever to start the mower you can release it and push instead.
Incorrect.
Press and hold red button and pull 1st lever towards handle bar to start mower, then release red button and start mowing.
Pull 2nd lever to start self propulsion. Release lever to stop self propulsion.
If you don't plan to use self propelled function, don't attach the wire to the 2nd lever.
Incorrect.
I guess I better take mine in for warranty then?
Mine requires 3 actions:
* Press red button
* Squeeze front facing lever (Operating/Blade lever)
* Squeeze rear facing lever (Self-Propelled lever)
Once I have completed all 3 then I can release the rear facing lever.
I ended up purchasing one of these recently, although I haven't used it yet
What whipper snippers are all of you using? Assume most will be an Ozito as well?
If you can find it, and can do with the extras too, then this is a super deal..
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/659845
In my case, still using a 2-stroke petrol line trimmer .. have ran out of petrol too .. uggh!
Yeh that pack is a crazy good deal. Would have bought it if I didn't already have a 18V hedge trimmer and this 2x18V whipper snipper:
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-pxc-2-x-18v-cordless-line-…
thanks mate
This looks like a toy but works very well. My wife loves it so I don't have to do the trimming either.
https://www.bunnings.com.au/ozito-pxc-18v-grass-trimmer-kit_…
Also, bought one of these recently and loving it. Enough power and battery to do my 150m edging.
https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/675532
This is same as above if you prefer Kogan for some reason.
https://www.kogan.com/au/buy/certa-20v-powerplus-cordless-li…
My lawn is about 600-800 sq m and the block is hilly. How many charges to get through it? I'm thinking of getting this as an interim measure to getting the Worx robot mower when they are on sale.
I returned mine since I'm not really happy with the performance of the mower. Bunnings gave me a hard time on getting a full refund, Instead, after much heated discussions, Bunnings gave me a store credit of the same amount to spend in their stores.
Very angry and unsatisfied with Bunnings right now. :(
I returned mine since I'm not really happy with the performance of the mower.
From the Bunnings website:
We can provide a refund
All returned goods must be unused, in original packaging and in saleable condition
Receipts and tax invoices must be valid and intact
All refunds will be provided back in the original tender. Cheques will be refunded as cash (once bank processing of the cheque has occurred) and credit card refunds must be processed back onto a credit card.
I would be happy that they gave me a store credit in that case
From the Bunnings website Returns Policy:
Products will be accept for a repair, refund or replacement where:
The product is faulty or is not of acceptable quality; or
The product is not fit for its intended purpose; or
The product does not match its sample or description.
These are my reasons for wanting a refund.
Other branch of Bunnings used to accept returns whether used or not with no questions asked. I think only this particular store that I tried to return the mower is a bit more picky.
Two personnel I was talking to. The younger guy who is the returns manager said yes for a full refund but the older woman who is the assistant returns manager kept saying no.
In the end, the guy said report it as faulty and give a refund and left dragging the mower with him. The woman gave me a store credit instead. Oh well, better than nothing I suppose. I'm sure I'll find to use the voucher on something else in no time. :)
Tried this in store and it feels like heavier than a petrol mower !
Indeed.
If only there was some kind of propulsion system they could install (at extra weight?) which could push the mower for you…
Hi, I got one of these over the weekend and was wondering if anyone has had issues with the self propelling function not working?
The Bunnings I've gotten it from is out of stock so I can't go in for a swap. Thought I'd ask here if anyone has had the same issue.
Can't help with Ozito, but I know that both the Ryobi and Ego I have won't engage the propulsion unless the handle is fully extended and locked in.
Electric mowers typically also have an ignition key or fob which needs to be engaged to complete the circuit.
They're longshots, but make sure you've checked both before returning your unit.
Cheers for the reply. I do have the handle on the shortest setting at the moment. I'll extend it tomorrow and give it a go.
The motor itself is working. I did my whole block without the propulsion and enjoyed the workout. Just want it working for my wife.
Thanks again.
Have you attached the metal string to the 2nd lever that start/stop the self propelling?
Yup, slotted it through to match the starter lever
Then pulling the 2nd lever towards the handle bar should turn on the self propelling. Seems like it's faulty then. Have you tried to lift the handle bar to see if the rear wheels turn while off the ground? Increase the speed if you have it on the lowest setting. Also check all the cabling going into the mower are not disconnected. I remember one cable had a connector that is on the outside and visible. That might be loose.
@BellaWii: Nah, nothing is going when I pull the lever even with the back lifted. I'll check the cables.
Thanks for the help, appreciate it.
@BellaWii: I was game enough to dig my fingers around the connectors under the back wheels and actually found one was not connected! It seems like these two plastic wings had stopped it from completely connecting. Now it's all good.
Thank you so much.
@beozie: No worries, happy to help. Remember to keep the receipt in digital form, like scanning it and emailing yourself or take a photo. With the extra feature and cabling, it might be more prone to breakdown.
hmm… Pickup didn't seem to be an option available, anyone has the the same issue? thanks