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[eBay Plus] Samsung 2.5" 870 QVO SATA 2TB SSD $194.65 Delivered @ Computer Alliance eBay
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Probably make a good Xbox One X storage drive too.
Does anyone know the TBW?
720
I haven't seen the inside of a PC for more than 6 years. Does this come with cloning software to easily upgrade my 256Gb SATA SSD? What is the easiest way to upgrade without having to re-install anything?
Samsung has a migration tool
However, the 860 QVO isn't the ideal SSD to use as the primary/OS drive. Better to get NVMe like the Samsung 970 Plus if you've got the slot,
otherwise a MX500 is probably the best option for a 2.5" SATA driveThank you! I have ordered the 1tb MX500 as I've only got a Gigabyte X58 mainboard - oldie but still does the job.
Wow. X58.
Why is it not ideal? OOTL
It uses lower quality QLC instead of the better quality TLC - basically slower and less durable.
Not the worst option, it has DRAM cache unlike cheaper options such as WD green or Crucial BX500
Probably because it is QLC NAND based, so sustained write is lower than TLC based SSDs (doesn't look impressive once the SLC cache is exhausted). Basically, if you copied 100GB+ worth files in one go, you are looking at more like traditional hard disk performance for writes (reads are still fine). Thing is, how often do you do a full system clone (and onto a 2TB SSD)?
Most people prefer to use a fast SSD (i.e. NVMe SSD) for system drive and use these large, more cost effective SSDs for data or gaming (since you would care about reads for those).
However, the reality is that if you are considering this, then it is generally fine to use it even of an OS drive. For those who really need better a better SSD, they would know what to get.
@Chandler: It's not that simple. This is SLC (cache) + QLC SSD. If your usage pattern constantly hits the SLC portion, do you consider it SLC or QLC?
Then, there is multi-channel / controller reads/writes (for sequential data). More importantly, there is random read/write (which is why you don't see top NVMe loading Windows 2-3x faster and most game loads don't drastically improved with NVMe). If I consistently apply a usage pattern which requires random read/write, do you really expect this QLC SSD to lose an ancient el cheapo MLC which inferior random read/write? Also, storage size also plays a role.
Are you able to tell me what usage patterns NVMe SSDs are best suited? How about why Richard at Digital Foundry tested a 8TB Samsung QLC SSD for gaming? These QLC SSDs do have their uses. The only problem is that makers are not willing to drop the price (perhaps due to the controller and DRAM cost - i.e. Samsung is not putting a crap controller on this).
It's about knowing these SSDs and how to best use them.
If your usage pattern constantly hits the SLC portion, do you consider it SLC or QLC?
If you're usage pattern on your Corolla constantly hits the same performance window as a Ferrari, do you consider it a Ferrari?
I get your point, but no.
My comment was a generalisation (and whilst a reply was not directed at you). Single level modules are "better" than 2/3/4 level. Whether you realise any performance benefit depends on your usage.
As for your remaining questions, don't know. I would not consider myself knowledgeable enough to make any of those calls.
@Chandler: No, you CANNOT class it based on NAND type alone.
For example, BX200 is a junk class TLC, its sustained write is inferior to this QLC SSD. The situation is more complicated once you consider NVMe. Due to controller improvement, there are cases where the QLC NVMe SSDs in some situations outperform TLC SATA SSDs by a wide margin. SLC cache in NVMe just gets heaps more bandwidth.
MLC vs TLC is a complicated matter. The benefit SLC + MLC isn't strong enough so that SLC + TLC is now the mainstream. We are NOT seeing SLC + MLC on PCIe gen 4 NVMe SSD offerings. Care to explain that? Shouldn't PCIe gen 4 allow MLC to shine?
In the old days, there were many different grades of MLC NANDs, I have cheap MLC SSDs which cannot beat any of my decent TLC SATA SSDs. If I simply use NAND technology type to grade the SSDs, that would be wrong.
Lastly, all these chasing sequential read/write figures… For general usage, random reads/writes matter a lot more.
@Chandler: It's about knowing your SSDs. There are ways to use SSDs with inferior sustained write performance. Just use them in situations where you generally mostly read on them (or don't go over the SLC cache sweet spot too often). Also, if you purchased a $9 USB 3 enclosure, it generally doesn't make sense to put a top notch SATA3 SSD in it.
If you can afford a Ferrari, then it is likely you have multiple cars. Clearly, you don't have to drive that Ferrari every single time.
Also worth considering the recent MX500 deal for slightly more
Farcry keys worth anything? if i buy this it will be my second copy which i dont need…
Should be able to sell it for $35-$40 in OZB
However can you do multiple claim?You can as long as it's not the same product
Individuals may make more than one Eligible Claim, provided that no more than one (1) claim is made per
Participating Product.
I just got a 970 evo plus 2tb from another deal, and tried to reclaim FC6. The samsung site keeps telling me the serial is invalid.
Googling shows this is a common problem going back a couple of years. Very annoying. Way to piss off your customers Samsung!
I'll update if support ever replies.tried getting the serial with the samsung software?
how did you do it to make it $206.10?
i can only get it for $219 as non-Plus member.
$229 - $10 (AFTERPAY10) = $219.Use code PLUSTCH
"To apply this code, you need to be an eBay Plus member."
i get this error when I use the PLUSTCH code
Sorry, I misread the original coupon deal.
Thought it was 10% off for non-Plus members and 15% off for Plus members.
Looks to be 10% off non-Plus items and 15% off Plus items. Both cases only for Plus members
I've removed the non-Plus price from the original post
If use case is just for a steam drive with games, MLC is fine right?
Nevermind looks reasonable for a game drive and good price worth giving it a go XD
It's actually a QLC drive* but yes it's fine as a Steam drive
*If were getting really technical it can also be called a 4-bit MLC drive since MLC means any multilayer cell SSD. MLC is generally used for 2-bit cell drives though they are pretty rare nowadays. Generally TLC (3-bit MLC) are used in the high quality drives while QLC for the more budget orientated drives
which one is better QVO 870 or EVO 870?
EVO is the better quality drive but is far more expensive.
If you're looking for a similar quality drive to the EVO, the Crucial MX500 is a good alternative and much more affordablethanks
Does this work good with PS5?
Can't be used as an internal drive, you need a PCIe 4.0 NVMe
Can be used as a external drive for PS4 games if you put in an enclosure
What is the recommendation on this one vs the Crucial MX500 2TB?
it's going to travel with me as an external drive for storing RAW photo and video, and doing culling/editing in Lightroom, maybe light video editing but mostly just video storage. I'm going to Africa for a few months early Jan and wanted something that'll give me plenty of headroom.
Read/Write and TBW (720 Sa v 700 Cr) all look pretty similar, but Crucial does a 5yr warranty v Samsung's 3 yr - likely long after I've lost the receipt or it's no longer worth a claim.
Am I overthinking it and should just get the cheaper drive, pocket the savings, splash out… or Play The Market and see what excitement comes in the sales?
For your use case, it sounds like the MX500 is the better option. The 870 QVO suffers slowdown after large file writes (I think around 80GB) so large video transfers might be a problem. MX500 is also TLC so more durable and a bit faster.
External, it gets tricky as it depends on the enclosure. Most SATA3 enclosures are USB 3.0/3.1 gen 1 based. You are not able to take advantage of MX500 fully. USB 3.1 gen 2 SATA3 enclosures are less common and more expensive. You also need to think about the chipset (there are generally 3 to choose from and for some of those 3, you don't want ones with dodgy firmware).
If you are getting USB 3.1 gen 2 "SATA3" enclosure, then MX500. Otherwise, if the price gap is big enough, then 870 QVO is worth considering if it is just USB 3.0. The only exception is if copying >100GB worth of files is something you will do a lot, then MX500. If each time, you copy ~50GB worth of files, then there isn't much difference.
Thing is, if it is USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosure, I'd rather get a NVMe SSD based, rather than a SATA3 based enclosure because with USB 3.1 gen 2, SATA3 is the bottleneck.
After thinking a bit, QLC drives may be less suitable for USB enclosures and large video transfer use case.
USB3.0 interface can easily saturate the QLC sustained write speed (around 150MB/sec). Unless you keep the enclosure connected to your laptop for a while, the drive may not move all the data from the cache in the background, like it happened when it's permanently installed/powered. So you would more likely be limited with the painfully slow sustained write speed of the QLC flash.
I covered that already. The cut off is ~50GB per transfer / write.
Also, if you really care about sustained write, I would simply go with a decent NVMe SSD + USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosure. Those simply blow MX500 out of the water. Basically, MX500 on USB 3.1 gen 1 enclosure seems under utilised, but for USB 3.1 gen 2 enclosures, only NVMe SSDs make sense. If we can get USB 3.1 gen 2 SATA3 enclosure at $10-$15 price point, then MX500 would be a much more compelling option.
If we are looking at the $9 or less USB 3.0/3.1 gen 1 enclosures, then there is lottery involved. A lot of them don't support TRIM over USB nor UASP.
Cheapest I've seen. Works well as Steam storage, I've got a gen 4 NVMe SSD for three more taxing stuff but for the average title this works really well.