One of the best 240MM AIOs paired with one of the best budget CPUs atm - considering this is how much I paid for my 5600x at launch I'd say it's a pretty good deal.
AMD Ryzen 5 5600X CPU & Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240mm AIO Bundle $499 + Shipping @ PC Case Gear
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Assuming $350 for the CPU that leaves you with $150 for the AIO. The LF2 has gone down below $150 before, and the CPU has definitely gone down below $150 too.
I think we hold on this fellas, there's no reason to spend $150 on liquid cooling for a 5600X.
No reason spend to spend $150 on cooling for a 5600X…..unless you like the sound of a vacuum cleaner for the years that you'll own the build.
Buy a good cooler, and keep it for multiple builds, I spent $120 on a NH-D15 and have used it in over 3 builds now over almost 6 years, has payed for itself 3 times over.
Not a bad suggestion but your main argument is totally incorrect, it is not loud at all. For example, it measured quieter than the NH-D15S both at idle and full load in this review: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/arctic-liquid-freezer-…
I'm not sure how useful these charts are. I've run the Assassin III at full fan speed and it's definitely louder than the NH-D15 at full fan speed. Unless they normalise for fan RPM, which I don't think is a fair evaluation. dB(A) also underweighs the lower and extreme higher frequencies, so I'm unsure how useful they are for fans which make a wider spectrum of noise.
Not a sound engineer though so YMMV, hopefully someone who's worked with different decibel scales can shed some more light.
I spent on the LFii 360 for the 5600X, pure silence and boosts to 4,650mhz all core at times. Depends what you want I guess.
I have a $110 Deepcool Assassin 3 and my 5600X is whisper quiet with the same boost clocks as you. Barring space restrictions there's no reason to get an AIO when an air cooler is cheaper, lasts longer, and is less prone to failure. My old NH-D14 is still being used in a build. The 240mm AIO my friend bought 6 years ago is in the trash.
Maybe some people just like the look of AIOs - I for sure do as I can't remember the last time I had a build without one, my current EKWB 240mm AIO has a 5 year warranty and I got it basically brand new for $70 meaning that in the very unlikely situation something did go wrong I can always just get a replacement lol, to each their own.
My all core boost is 4,650mhz, doubt yours is all core
@reactor-au: Yup, PBO + Undervolt. Worse case torture load the chip hits 83 degrees with a 22 degree ambient. This is well within its parameters. I also have applied a max boost overdrive of 200mhz so the chip regularly hits 4800 on one or two cores. Also important to note that "all core boost" really depends on the load type and instruction set you're using. Screenshot your all core boost on P95 Small FFTs with AVX2. I can almost guarantee you'll dip to around 4450-4525
EDIT, in case you were wondering:
- +200mhz Max Boost Override
- 222W PPT (doesn't really matter)
- 102A TDC
- 124A EDC
Curve Optimiser on Cores is:
0: -17
1: -5
2: -17
3: -5
4: -20
5: -14
AIO my friend bought 6 years ago is in the trash.
as are the majoritys other 6 year old components.
I agree reduce your waste and buy quality that lasts but that does not compute with computing.
@abuch47: A well chosen power supply, case and CPU cooler should transition through many builds. My friend's Fractal Define R4 that I set him up with 8+ years ago is still in use with his latest build, and I haven't seen a single Seasonic I've built with in the past 10 years die.
When an AIO dies, you throw all of it away. Unlike in a custom loop where I can replace parts (I've reused D5 pumps and radiators that have been well maintained for almost a decade), an AIO is a closed system. You can probably refill them and drain them with a bit of work, but that's beyond the scope of most consumers. Chunky air coolers can just be used forever.
Zen 2 and Zen 2 are much more limited by the density of the heat they output, so you could slap on a 1000000mm AIO and you wouldn't have appreciable performance benefits over a NH-D15. Unless overclocking is something you care about (and in this day and age it really shouldn't be for the avg. user considering the diminishing returns), there's really not many good reasons to have an AIO.
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average consumer buys n throws regularly, a single component that is the cheapest in the build means nothing.
new phone, tv, watch, whole PC, tablet, laptop, monitors, car, e-vehicle, audio equipment, personal care equipment, house, IOT device, smart home, lighting (wow look at the colours)
@notmaroun: outliers are not what we're talking about though. It doesn't make any sense for that to be the discerning factor for an air cooler when its not relevant for every other purchase on even the same consumer item.
@abuch47: This is OzBargain. I'm giving value oriented advice to people, for a part whose function it is to make your computer run cooler. I think looks and form plays second fiddle to function, longevity and value, and I'm expressing that in my comments.
I don't think its fair to say that technology is this magical bubble that you can't squeeze extra value out of. Buy a functional case over a good looking one with less function. Buy a good power supply with a 10 year warranty over the cheapest unit you can afford. Buy an air cooler with enough oomph from a company that's known to support their products for the long term.
You save money, your products last longer, and you get to feel satisfied that you're throwing away less stuff.
I think that's a pretty fair perspective to have, and the only reason why it isn't the norm is because marketing and RGB have convinced people that they need a 360mm RGB AIO with an OLED screen that they'll stop looking at in a couple of weeks.
Just because it's not something you consider doesn't mean that the consideration itself has no intrinsic value.
Oops I meant $350 for the CPU. My point still stands.
Looks like a good deal- but in my experience a 120mm AIO is definitely more than sufficient for cooling. This CPU doesn't draw enough power to require any more cooling than that from anything I've thrown at it but YMMV
Undervolt it too, runs even cooler and faster
As per most PCCG/Mwave deals etc, shipping kills it.
5600x can easily be found for $399 and even recently got one for $350 during eBay sales. Cooler goes on sale for $130.
With 5800x and you got a deal
sick deal. pccg has very fast delivery. im located in wa and i got a psu from them like in 2 days.
Amogus.
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This may be a random comment, but anyone looking to pair this cooler with an ssupd meshlicious itx case be warned: the way the tubes come out of the waterblock make it difficult to use with the side panel. Unfortunate as it is one of the best AIOs out there. For atx and matx builds you'll be fine.
Excellent info thanks! What cooler did you go with?
don't know about him but the EK aio seems to be one of the best AIOs for that case.
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I built a Meshilicious with a 240mm EK AIO and it fit perfectly. The tubes were up against the SFX-L PSU I used, but it wasn't that big of a concern. For 280mm and maintaining correct tube orientation, I'd definitely stick with an SFX PSU.
with gpu going crazy again
not interested anymore
Good CPU and great AIO