Cheapest delivery option seems to be about $13, so just under $260 in all if you're outside Melbourne. Note that this is the heatsinkless version, so if this is for a PS5 you'll probably want to add a heatsink, but that should only be about $20 more, and would still come out cheaper than the best price I could find for the version that comes with one already implemented.
i got one of these and it runs at under 50C with general usage, its gone up to 85C with a file transfer
I've ordered a heatsink for it but I'm running it in a gen3 mobo
What are your max read/write speeds since running in a gen3 mobo?
@[Deactivated]: Just out of curiosity, and not directly aimed at you, but what use cases are there for 25 Gbps writes, apart from gaming or audio/video editing?
A drive half that speed should (presuming every other component is up to task) still be able to saturate a 10GbE connection
@Chandler: Decompressing large file's like databases and zip files you have transferred across or downloaded.
When we expecting ps5 update to allow this?
Within the next month
This is also $259 delivered in Amazon from the same company. If you prefer to go via Amazon.
Can you please share the link. Can’t seem to find it
Evatech website put me off. Had to use an account just to know the shipping cost. To metro sydney was 12.95 so the amazon option being only 1$ more and smooth checkout experience was the way I went.
Samsung 980 Pro still the best for PC?
The Western Digital WD Black SN850 has clearly established itself as a premium consumer SSD. It trades the lead with the Samsung 980 PRO on many tests but beats Samsung more often than not, making the WD Black SN850 the fastest PCIe 4.0 SSD we have tested so far.
https://www.anandtech.com/show/16505/the-western-digital-wd-…
Can someone please tell me if i will notice any difference upgrading from a 850 evo? Few people have said there is zero difference??
For what use?
gaming, OS, transferring files.
Does your motherboard have PCIE gen 3 or 4?
@nnolan: The WD Black 1TB SN850 is gen 4 with max read speed 7000mb/s and write speed 5,000mb/s. It is backwards compatible on gen 3 mobo but you will not get the maximum gen 4 speed. You will probably get closer to read 3,500 and 3,000 write such as what user ups posted earlier in the listing.
get a sn550 for extra storage unless you do high burst r/w, will have pretty much no difference.
It will be future proof, if you end up upgrading your motherboard sometime
Unless you do a lot of 4K+ video editing or have workflow requiring a lot of mixed reads and writes, you are not likely to find much difference.
If you have a need to work on large files, then NVMe SSDs could provide significant benefit. However, if you generally work with small files, it is unlikely you will gain much benefit from NVMe SSDs. Also, you need a way to pump in large data into the NVMe SSD and that could involve another storage device.
With PCIe gen 5 scheduled to arrive early next year, it's best you only get this if you have a legit use of it. Otherwise, best to wait for heavy discount. Right now, there are PS5 owners trying to get PCIe gen4 NVMe SSDs in preparation of Sony enabling it in the official firmware soon. Frankly, I don't understand why the firmware is still in beta.
FYI PS5 says to use heat sink. Makes sense as they are moving with designing games around constant asset streaming so load can be potentially full on over a gaming session.
I ordered a $6 one on ebay.
can you please share a link? I need one too! thanks mate :)
We’re not fancy, but we’re cheap. Should do the trick, multiplying surface area….
Logically, the more blades, (and height) = more surface area to dissipate heat and the cooler she’ll be.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/M-2-SSD-NVMe-Heat-Sink-heatsink-…
That heatsink is listed as 17.6mm high, the PS5 only allows for 11mm. Oops?
@muzzakus: Oh, really? My understanding was that leaving the cover off would negatively impact cooling. But doing some digging now, it seems that people are agreeing that it's fine. Well, that does make life easier. Thanks for pointing that out!
@elshandra: Probably better to leave cover off and have a slightly taller cooler as seemingly there is no airflow in the compartment. Yeah it’s weird, but I guess they know what they are doing being in the biz long enough…
@muzzakus: I would put the cover back on.
I thought the same thing as you, until I saw this video. Glasscock claims to have gotten confirmation from Sony themselves you need to put the cover back on.
https://youtu.be/eUXsesZe7LA
@elshandra: This one seems to be quite popular for PS5 amongst users https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07MVZ6VXW/ref=ox_sc_sa…
@User50301: Bought basically the same one from AliExpress on 5/8/2021, just arrived today. Came in a box and is sealed. Bought the heatsink before the SSD as I know the heatsink will take longer to arrive. However, firmware not available in Aus yet.
@netsurfer: Its also very similar to the images used in PlayStation's own instructions https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps5-insta…
What heatsink you ps5 owners looking at getting?
Went with the MC1 personally because I trust be quiet!; it's a pre-order but I'll be waiting for the update anyway (the Pro runs even cooler for only $4 more but is unfortunately too big for the PS5). PCCG and Mwave also have a bunch of other selections, including EKWB's options in a range of colours and should also fit the console.
imagine people using this on their ps5: https://www.pccasegear.com/products/53442/corsair-hydrox-m-2…
The MC1 mentioned above is pretty good.
https://www.amazon.com.au/gp/product/B07MVZ6VXW
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001505613495.html
There are cheaper ones, but do you really need to save that extra $5 for inferior one (not that the one mentioned above is that good)?
Its not the item cost of the MC1 from PCCG that is the issue for some, its more the inflated shipping that is added.
Yeah, the postage cost is too high for such a small item. PCCG is pushing people to choose the StarTrack Express option for some reason. I think it has something to do with Covid lockdown.
How does the WD Black 1TB SN750 M.2 NvMe SSD compare to this one?
Found one for $199 @ Umart
https://www.umart.com.au/WD-Black-1TB-SN750-M-2-NvMe-SSD_503…
Umart is half the speed, not suitable for e.g PS5
gen 3 won't work at all, need minimum a gen 4 drive
With a minimum read speed of 5,500mb/s for PS5.
ok thanks guys
I'd go with sabrent rocket for ps5 price is good.
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-Internal-Extreme-Performance-…
can you install it on PS5 with the heatsink?
Apparently yes reading reviews
Heatsink too big and ssd too slow. This one is only 5,000mb/s read. PS5 needs minimum 5,500mb/s.
https://www.engadget.com/best-ps5-ssd-expansion-upgrade-1500…
For speed, Sony says drives should be able to handle sequential reads at 5,500MB/s. Early testing has shown that drives as slow as 4,800MB/s are accepted by the PS5, and using them to play a game that taps into the SSD regularly — such as Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart — causes no issues. Pretty much the only thing the PS5 will outright reject is one that doesn't match the Gen4 x4 spec.
In our opinion, though, using a drive slower than the specification is a risk that, if you don’t already have that drive lying around, is not worth taking. Just because we haven’t found issues now, that doesn’t mean there won’t be games that will be problematic down the line. The price difference between these marginally slower Gen4 drives and the ones that meet Sony’s spec is not huge, and you may as well cover all your bases.
Don't forget the PS5 firmware is still in beta. Things may also change once out of beta. For details concerning what's right for PS5 https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/hardware/ps5-insta…
@User50301: Yes, was just putting some reference up that you should buy sequential speed of 5,500MB/s, so the sabrent rocket one linked is not worth taking the risk.
@User50301: Sequential read speed: 5,500MB/s or faster is recommended
It's recommended, not mandatory. I don't think Sony will be very strict on the NVMe SSD (other than checking it is PCIe gen 4). If a game really takes full advantage of 6 priority channels later on and some SSDs struggle, put the game on internal SSD.
PCIe gen 5 coming in 2022. Furthermore, if all Sony does is checking maximum sequential read, there could be some cheating from SSD makers later on.
That said, once you included the shipping and convert it to AUD (+GST), It's not worthwhile getting the Sabrent SSD. Amazon is showing ~$244 AUD all up. Why bother… for $1 and you need to wait till September and an inferior drive…
That's USD I think, not AUD. ~$244 AUD after shipping, converted to AUD + GST added.
Correct
Seeming Sony says it needs a heat sink I wonder if they will only enable compatibility for models that include a heat sink. Otherwise they will have people installing models without a heat sink and try to blame Sony when it stops working.
hmmm unlikely that they will block installing models without a heatsink.
They will likely just do what most motherboard manufacturers do, post a list of SSD's and their model numbers which they confirmed working and support. And if you don't use any in that list, then YMMV.
SSD's typically don't really have anything embedded into the chip or firmware which says it is using a heatsink or not. And I would say programming in a whitelist would probably get more people pissed off than not having a whitelist.
It won't stop working. NVMe SSDs have thermal protection built in. It just means the SSD could slow down so the temperature would drop. For now, the reason for a heatsink is that initially, you could be moving quite a lot games from the PS5 internal SSD to m.2 NVMe SSD. Sustained write would cause the temperature to rise.
SN850 with heatsink is available so Sony cannot tell whether the SSD has a heatsink or not (because no SSD maker is willing to release 2 different firmware versions, one for without heatsink, one for with heatsink).
It is unlikely Sony will blacklist PCIe gen 4 SSDs (at least not yet). Whitelisting approach is not sensible, given how long Sony took just to enable this firmware (in beta still). People will be angry if NVMe PCIe gen 5 SSDs require whitelisting later on.
100% compatible with PS5?
Yes it is. One of the lead PS5 architects Mark Cerny tweeted that he was going to use this drive himself.
You need to buy a heatsink for it though and it needs to be lower than 11mm in height to fit the slot.
Is this true? Multiple articles on Google published about WD quietly swapping NAND chips between review and final release:
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/326200-western-digital…
Price has dropped to $239.
Anyone purchased one of these drives and can vouch for it/EVATECH?
Since the Chiacoin price crash I have heard stories of ssd's used for Chia mining (which can trash the drive in very short time) being re-sold as new.
https://www.pcgamer.com/au/beware-miners-selling-thrashed-se…
As Evatech seem to have a lot of these drives, selling them direct on their own store via Amazon and eBay, and cheaper than anyone else currently has them, I wonder if they got a "good deal" on some cheap drives coming out of China, and may be selling (perhaps unwittingly) used ssd's repackaged as new.
We're well aware of these reports and to the best of knowledge (and we have carefully looked in to it) they do not effect any of the inventory we sell.
Each come with their full 5 year manufacturer warranty so if you do have any issues you're totally covered.
While I can't divulge specifics, the pricing is to clear excess inventory that results from the unwanted bundling of items from different supply channels when we source more supply constrained products (I'll leave you to guess what they might be)
We sold quiet a lot of these as you can imagine, many from this post alone, and had zero reported issues from customers. We've also conducted in-house tests on several units that go in to PC builds for customers and they all appear to be nothing but brand new genuine products.
If I'm chucking this into a PC build, would I need a heatsink?